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2008-05-30 Britain
Top police chief: 'We must start negotiating with Al Qaeda'
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Posted by anonymous5089 2008-05-30 09:10|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 Seems this guy doesn't know that Jerry Adams had no desire on making English convert to catholicism, speak gaelic, eat irish stew and drink guiness.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2008-05-30 10:19||   2008-05-30 10:19|| Front Page Top

#2 With whom did Kitchener negotiate at Khartoum?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-05-30 10:29||   2008-05-30 10:29|| Front Page Top

#3 I think he tried negotiating with the Madhi, but he didnt want to talk for some reason...
Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2008-05-30 11:20||   2008-05-30 11:20|| Front Page Top

#4 "Sir Hugh" doesn't even know his own British history, or he'd know that the British counter-terrorism effort in Malaya resulted in the destruction of two muzzie terror groups and free and fair elections in that country.

The man just breathed new life into a dying carcass, the jacka$$.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2008-05-30 11:42|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2008-05-30 11:42|| Front Page Top

#5 If the negotiation starts with the choice of (a) Al Queda unconditional surrender (b) Al Queda leave or die than I can accept negotiations. Otherwise, I don't think so.
Posted by rjschwarz 2008-05-30 11:46||   2008-05-30 11:46|| Front Page Top

#6 Negotiating sounds great. First, AQ must denounce violence against non-Muslims, acknowledge the historic and legal rights of Israel, denounce the religious apartheid of the Saudi government and all other Arab governments, affirm the equality of women, and accept freedom of expression and of religious belief including the right of Muslims to convert to other faiths, to practice a broad variety of Islamic traditions or to have no particular faith.

Also, no more f*cking goats.

Once we have this bare minimum agreed, negotiations on other issues may be considered. Until then: Kill as many of them as we can.

It would also be a reasonable expectation for senior British police officers to agree the same points. If they can't they should be fired.
Posted by Excalibur 2008-05-30 11:56||   2008-05-30 11:56|| Front Page Top

#7 I really hate the equivocation of the terms "talking to" and "negotiating".

We should always "talk to" terrorists, so that they are under no illusions why we are killing them. So that they are unable to delude themselves, or others viz the morality of their acts.

In theory, even negotiation is fine, although the term without qualifiers implies too wide a range of possibilities. We have always had and always will have the possibility on the table whereby if they stop attacking/killing us, we will stop attacking/killing them. By definition, this is the line at which negotiation stops and appeasement begins.

Sir Hugh Orde ought to know better than to even suggest negotiation when the enemy is nowhere near implicit acceptance of these terms. He mentions the neccessity of "Judging conditions". Present conditions do not even warrant talking about negotiating.
Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2008-05-30 12:03||   2008-05-30 12:03|| Front Page Top

#8 "Anybody else wanna negotiate?..."
-- The 5th Element
Posted by mojo">mojo  2008-05-30 12:22||   2008-05-30 12:22|| Front Page Top

#9 WE MUST NEVER TAKE SIR HUGH ORDE'S ADVICE.
Posted by RD">RD  2008-05-30 12:38||   2008-05-30 12:38|| Front Page Top

#10 WE MUST NEVER TAKE COUNSEL WITH SIR HUGH ORDE.

/my first choice
Posted by RD">RD  2008-05-30 12:41||   2008-05-30 12:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Our nation building follies encourage this kind of talk. In 1945, we outlawed Nazism as a form of association and expression, etc; in 2003 we outlawed Baathism in Iraq (Coalition Provisional Authority Order #1). We need to outlaw Islamofascism now and forever. Indulging political islam has been tried: and failed. Let's do something else, like ordering shoot on sight orders against Islamofascists.
Posted by Clereck Grundy4016 2008-05-30 15:07||   2008-05-30 15:07|| Front Page Top

#12 Excallibur, perhaps we should start with the goat thing as our initial demand and then trust but verify. The humiliation and humor would be awesome.
Posted by rjschwarz 2008-05-30 15:26||   2008-05-30 15:26|| Front Page Top

#13 I think at this point profiling would be more effective than negotiating. But, of course, that's so politically incorrect of me.
Posted by Grusoling Panda8701 2008-05-30 16:02||   2008-05-30 16:02|| Front Page Top

#14 Also, no more f*cking goats.
There's your show-stopper.
Posted by George Smiley 2008-05-30 17:53||   2008-05-30 17:53|| Front Page Top

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