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2008-06-01 Iraq

No intention to establish permanent bases in Iraq- NATO deputy commander

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Posted by Fred 2008-06-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top
File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1 NATO has no such plans because basing of that nature is inconsistent with the group Charter. But Iraq Shiites have set up SOFA (Status of Forces Agreement) as a means to end the wall between them and the Sunnis. If US troops leave there will be a bloodbath; if US troops stay there will be an Iranian backed bloodbath (as early as August).

Secularism arose in context of the Catholic-Protestant wars. In context of the 1400 Sunni-Shiite conflict, we allowed a pseudo democracy to polarize Iraq on religious lines, while Secularism was all but abolished. Iraq warring parties are prisoners of a rhetoric of perma-war, concluding only at the end-of-days; we are prisoners of pseudo democratic rhetoric that somehow values political islam in its inherent perversity. Muslims can go to hell.

Posted by McZoid 2008-06-01 03:48|| 2008-06-01 03:48|| Front Page Top

#2 Who, exactly would want to be permanantly based in a latrine like Iraq?

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2008-06-01 04:05|| 2008-06-01 04:05|| Front Page Top

#3 The kind of people who established permanent bases in a latrine like Korea.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-06-01 07:54|| 2008-06-01 07:54|| Front Page Top

#4 Based on first hand reports. I would expect a rather strong showing of hands from our folks in uniform if asked to volunteer for futy there; unlike the State Department stiped pants crowd...
different mind set. Selflessness vs. selfishness.

Posted by USN,Ret. (from home) 2008-06-01 10:50|| 2008-06-01 10:50|| Front Page Top

#5 Tep Korea circa 1954 was like a damn cold Iraq with Kimchee bonus.

Posted by George Smiley 2008-06-01 12:01|| 2008-06-01 12:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Good catch, McZoid, on NATO vs. the U.S. I don't imagine NATO is capable of staffing bases long term, based on comments made here.

I like kimchee, too, George. :-)

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-06-01 13:15|| 2008-06-01 13:15|| Front Page Top

#7 The real "Reformation" in Christian Europe was secularization and freedom of religion, which ended religious warfare there & promoted the forms of government by consent of the governed. The Islamic countries have institutionalized dictatorship & religious warfare for centuries, their way out of their mess may be the same route as Europe took, although it will look different to the ignorant.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2008-06-01 13:21|| 2008-06-01 13:21|| Front Page Top

#8 AH: yah, Muslims can't secularize. Sunna - emulation of the self appointed "prophet" - is an inalterable foundation of Islam. Beards are worn to exact lengths, because that is what Muhammad did. Some slaves of allah even dye their beards with a red tinge, to look like the "prophet." Since the French intervention in Egypt, in 1798, there is a record of Muslims adopting Western ways only to return to strict sharia. Wherever Muslims have the numbers, they launch jihad terror. That is why we have to render them powerless, even if that means re-colonialization of their backward, mullah ridden cess pools.

Posted by McZoid 2008-06-01 20:12|| 2008-06-01 20:12|| Front Page Top

#9 Remember that religion always takes a back set to POLITICS. It is all political.

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