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2008-07-17 Home Front: Politix
Evil Deeds and Dark Doings As Hillary Plots Behind the Scenes
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Posted by Anonymoose 2008-07-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 all conjecture but it all sounds plausible Mooses but so does just about everything political.

more conjecture
Another slant is that all along McCain's election staff hasn't feared Obama because they know the majority of Americans have figured it out, that Obama is nothing but an angry empty suit.

Because McCain believes he can whip Obama easily in the General his StraTeeGery now is to keep major tabs on Hitlery.
Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg  2008-07-17 06:57||   2008-07-17 06:57|| Front Page Top

#2 Difficult to predict. I laughed at Slick and said he'd never be elected. I was wrong not once, but TWICE!
Posted by Besoeker 2008-07-17 08:14||   2008-07-17 08:14|| Front Page Top

#3 Besoeker, Bill Clinton would have gotten no closer to the White House than a guided tour either election were it not for Ross Perot.
Posted by RWV 2008-07-17 08:56||   2008-07-17 08:56|| Front Page Top

#4 If Hillary makes a serious grab at the convention, Redford may be right. This could be the end of the Democratic party as we know it. The Whigs could not resolve their north-south divison and split never to regroup. Out of the ashes came the Republican party. We got damn lucky with that mess. Lincoln's name would never have made it out of Illionis without a political crises of huge proportions. BO is from Illionis but he aint no Lincoln.
Posted by Richard of Oregon 2008-07-17 09:28||   2008-07-17 09:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Don't take any gift apples.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2008-07-17 10:06||   2008-07-17 10:06|| Front Page Top

#6  work under cover to help defeat His Messiahship so she can take a run at the Oval Office in 2012

This is her best course to the whitehouse.

Running as the "victim" of Obama, and against a much older McCain, she will be a lot more effective than after a floor fight this year.

Think of the hard decisions and hard work McCain faces in the next 4 years - he is going to have to make some unpopular decisions. And the economy is likely going to bump along and get at least one solid recession under the watch of whomever is in office. And with McCain's temper he will probably piss off the DC press worse than anyone since Nixon. THen throw 4 years of stress on him and his age of 77-78 becomes a serious issue.

And on top of that conservatives will not be as driven to work for his reelection after he does the right thing in replacing stevens and Ginsburg with young originalist justices, cementing the court for the next 10-15 years. Much of the GOP will oppose him if he caves in on amnesty for illegals, like it appears he will, and follows through with his idiotic "global warming" regulatory policies.

Another major issue goes away that woudl hurt hillary as well - the terror war will be sinding down, Iraq will be stable and most US troops will be home from there, and Afghanistan should be "becoming stable". And whatever crisis we have with Iran will have already happened.

So 2012, after a McCain presidency, the GOP is weaker, and Hillary holds all the cards.

If she is smart, she will continue to smile while she lets her operatives put the shiv in Obama's back, reveal secrets, and sabotage his campaign, while boosting McCain's (tacitly).

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-17 10:47||   2008-07-17 10:47|| Front Page Top

#7 OS, you are harshing my mellow, dude.

Seriously, I can see all of that prediction coming true if McCain wins.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2008-07-17 11:29||   2008-07-17 11:29|| Front Page Top

#8 DV & OS,

Maybe. But maybe a less harsh Mellow; a mellow Orange would be that McC picks a GOOD VP and then say in March of 2012 announces that he's retiring in favor of said GOOD VP.

Don't ask me who this VP is, maybe Romney but someone good.

(Romney ain't my first choice but I don't see anyone else even close)
Posted by AlanC 2008-07-17 13:21||   2008-07-17 13:21|| Front Page Top

#9 that she will either stage a comeback at Convention time

He's dreaming.

or work under cover to help defeat His Messiahship so she can take a run at the Oval Office in 2012.

He's right on the money.
Posted by tu3031 2008-07-17 13:26||   2008-07-17 13:26|| Front Page Top

#10 There has been a lot of speculation that McCain will only serve one term. With that in mind, try this for a counter-scenario:
McCain-Palin '08
Palin-Jindal '12
Posted by Mike 2008-07-17 13:54||   2008-07-17 13:54|| Front Page Top

#11 Mike,

From what I've heard of Palin & Jindal they sound quite good but I don't know enough about either and I'm a little concerned about the lack of experience.

Of course compared to the Obamanation my Dog has more executive experience.
Posted by AlanC 2008-07-17 14:37||   2008-07-17 14:37|| Front Page Top

#12 Besoeker:

Big difference between Clinton in 92 and 96 - (shhhh) he was white. This is the 800 pound Gorilla in the voting booth. Note how well Obama did in caucuses where you had to raise your hand in public versus ballot voting compared to pre-vote and exit polls. The Bradley effect is more applicable to Obama, of course, than Clinton. His star will be brightest when he goes to Europe but by November I believe he is very wrinkled, tattered empty suit.
Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back!  2008-07-17 17:15||   2008-07-17 17:15|| Front Page Top

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