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2008-07-17 Home Front: Culture Wars

California gay marriage ban vote to proceed

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Posted by Fred 2008-07-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 They say
Teh Gay
Puts California in play
In 2008

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Posted by badanov 2008-07-17 00:36|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2008-07-17 00:36|| Front Page Top

#2 Gays had the support of most with the just Civil Unions. Pushing marriage down the public's throat via judicial fiat was too much. This will pass, and some of the black-robed f*ckers will not get re-elected. Watch the wailing and gnashing of teeth in November.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-07-17 08:03|| 2008-07-17 08:03|| Front Page Top

#3 The problem is that the judges previously usurped the power of the people and thier legislators by arrogating to themselves the making of a law, essentially fabricating one that suited their liberal politics, not the constitution and laws of the state.

So the people are exerting their rights by makign a definite statement to the courts to stay the hell out of the way on this, by going over their heads in the only way possible: amending their constitution.

Had the judge left things alone, the civil unions would have been in place and this constitutional issue would not have had the success it appears to be having.

The funny thing is, in terms of legalities contract law, no laws are needed to achive the effects of "marraige" for any couple that wish to do so - excpeting possibly on taxes. Simply draw up the contract language in the civil law and both sign it.

The issue is that marriage has special connotations, and the homosexual activists wanted to force others to accept them on that basis as well, which is NOT possible, and is arguably an abuse of the law.

The ultimate solution will be to remove marriage from the laws completely, and make it a simple legal tax status issue (i.e. you get a tax break if your relationship is beneficial to society), with the rest covered by civil laws (health care eligibility, etc).

That leaves marriage to the Churches, which is where it belongs as an institution and moral issue. Seperation of Church and State should run both ways if people want to get picky about it.

But the homosexual activists and tier political cronies tried to bypas the lawmakers and the people they represent, and have created this backlash by their bypassing democracy. And thus they stand to lose everything they were trying for because they were anti-demoicratic and pro-judicial activist, thumbing their nose at representative government and constitutional law, to force their viewpoint on the majority, willing or unwilling. People have had enough of that crap.

Vox populi...

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-17 09:09|| 2008-07-17 09:09|| Front Page Top

#4 No problem, OS. The judges will just declare the constitutional amendment unconstitutional, under some legal principle they will pull out of their ass.

Posted by Rambler in California">Rambler in California 2008-07-17 11:02|| 2008-07-17 11:02|| Front Page Top

#5 The ultimate solution will be to remove marriage from the laws completely, and make it a simple legal tax status issue (i.e. you get a tax break if your relationship is beneficial to society), with the rest covered by civil laws (health care eligibility, etc).

Yeah. Focus the tax breaks on children [future tax revenue investments].

The radical gays really passed up a big opportunity. If you follow the InstaProf's wife's blog, you'd know how much 'traditional' marriage is in trouble because of legal inequities. She's been covering the evolution of the marriage boycott development for a while. The missed opportunity is that the gay community could have developed a model civil contract that met their need for ratification but was good enough for straight community to adopt as an alternative to the existing institution as well.

As I've posted, in the end, it wasn't about fair, or equal, or justice, it was about POWER.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-07-17 11:11|| 2008-07-17 11:11|| Front Page Top

#6 At least even the CA Supreme Court seems to realize that they cannot remove the initiative from the ballot.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-07-17 15:01|| 2008-07-17 15:01|| Front Page Top

#7 The gay activists demanded that society not only accept their behavior but condone it and society said, "F*U! Don't tell us what to think."

Posted by Percy Spumble4268 2008-07-17 16:24|| 2008-07-17 16:24|| Front Page Top

#8 You're right, now they've even started demanding that we re-write the bible to suit their deviant lifestyles.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-07-17 17:19|| 2008-07-17 17:19|| Front Page Top

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