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DNC: Credentials for Obama's Acceptance Speech Shows Upside Down American Flag?.....

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Posted by Beavis 2008-08-19 10:43|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 My bad mods I hit enter to quick this is Non WOT.

Mea culpa

Posted by Beavis 2008-08-19 10:55|| 2008-08-19 10:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Appalling juvenile behavior? Yes. Surprising? No.

Posted by Scott R 2008-08-19 10:57|| 2008-08-19 10:57|| Front Page Top

#3 I get it. It only *looks* like an actual American flag. And it is not upside down, you are just looking at it wrong. It's *stylized*, dude!

Assuming for the sake of argument that this is accidental, one has to ask:
a) are they really this tone deaf about symbolism?
b) are there any adults in charge to point out bloopers like this? (Obama's pre-Presidential Seal comes to mind here)

Posted by SteveS 2008-08-19 11:07|| 2008-08-19 11:07|| Front Page Top

#4 An upside down flag represents an international symbol of extreme distress.

That explains it.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-08-19 11:32|| 2008-08-19 11:32|| Front Page Top

#5 Oh, for goodness sake. Just because the designer made a very stupid mistake -- either because he didn't realize or because she did -- doesn't mean we should worry more or less about Candidate Obama. He has enough real problems with his candidacy: an inexperienced candidate who truly dislikes, despises, and does not understand most of those who cast votes in the election, asystem that has already been gamed to the maximum, and some appallingly stupid ideas about how to deal with domestic and foreign issues.

This kind of thing is like agonizing over whether a gown should have lace on the bodice or embroidery.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-08-19 11:36|| 2008-08-19 11:36|| Front Page Top

#6 Obama's people had probably never seen one before. That is, the American flag not lying on the ground and set on fire.

Posted by ed 2008-08-19 11:46|| 2008-08-19 11:46|| Front Page Top

In a related matter, Captain BS' fate is sealed.

Posted by Woozle Unusosing8053 2008-08-19 11:47|| 2008-08-19 11:47|| Front Page Top

#8 Fact is something like this is shown to multiple people so blaming the designer is silly. Those people looked it over and approved, or at least so no issue. Obama might be innocent but he has pretty well documented failings when it comes to picking decent people.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-08-19 11:49|| 2008-08-19 11:49|| Front Page Top

#9 TW, it still tells either about Obama or about his skill in selecting and managing assessors: wasn't the upside down flag used by Jane Fonda and similar traitors?

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-08-19 11:51|| 2008-08-19 11:51|| Front Page Top

#10 Picking incapable people is indeed something weighing against the man's ability to be president.

But looking at the thing Woozle Unusosing8053 posted, it demonstrates that Candidate Obama is fundamentally unserious. A real candidate for election to any political office wears a sober suit, white dress shirt, and classic tie to show outwardly that he is ready for the job to which he aspires... although I suppose a tie with a hint of a flag motif would be ok to illustrate trendiness. After all, he wants to stand out from the background, not blend -- camouflage-like -- into it. He will, after all, appear a man on a podium in front of a gigantic television screen showing just his head and shoulders. Surely he would not want to appear as if he'd sliced a hole in a flag and stuck his head through.

Jane Fonda chose her symbols with knowledge and malice aforethought. This is simply ignorance and inability on the part of the team Candidate Obama chose to separate what's in front of them from the plan in their heads. I've no doubt an aide actually spent ages shopping for just the right starred blue shirt, ignoring the fact that the colour looks absolutely dreadful on the candidate.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-08-19 12:23|| 2008-08-19 12:23|| Front Page Top

#11 You think with these people (at least in their minds) being the smartest people in the world would catch something like that.

Dumbasses... all of them, and Obama is their king.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-08-19 13:18|| 2008-08-19 13:18|| Front Page Top

#12 This is simply ignorance and inability on the part of the team Candidate Obama

This is simply the naivete and generosity of spirit we have come to expect of TW.

These people knew very well what they were doing and chuckled about it.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-08-19 13:47|| 2008-08-19 13:47|| Front Page Top

#13 Artfully nuanced. His head is there, cloaked amidst a field of .... 57 stars as he gazes to the entire world, the universe, and time.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-08-19 14:29|| 2008-08-19 14:29|| Front Page Top

#14 I think the idea was to convince people that Obama is "All American--through and through--why he's so American that he's part of the flag itself! "

Whatever--you can dress him up, but I can dress up my dog too. Don't mean nuthin'.

Posted by ex-lib 2008-08-19 14:35|| 2008-08-19 14:35|| Front Page Top

#15 You're a dear, Nimble Spemble. If they did it on purpose they are even more stupid than I supposed. Candidate Obama doesn't even have the majority in the polls that Candidate Kerry did in 2004 at this point. If his staff are deliberately doing things that will turn away undecided voters, the international distress symbol is appropriate, indeed.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-08-19 14:35|| 2008-08-19 14:35|| Front Page Top

#16 Also--you can bet Obama saw and okayed the thing--he probably thought it was cool--a pleaser and a needer of affection and approval--not presidential material in any way.

Posted by ex-lib 2008-08-19 14:36|| 2008-08-19 14:36|| Front Page Top

#17 Matt Chandler with the Obama campaign says the flag is not upside down. He says it is a stylized flag designed to blend the stars on Senator Obama's shirt with the flag blowing in the wind.

That might be plausible if it weren't for the fact that on the flip side there is a picture of an American flag upside down, without Obama. See pic at link.

Posted by Omatle Mussolini9582 2008-08-19 14:48|| 2008-08-19 14:48|| Front Page Top

#18 So I decided to take a looksy at what all the fuss is about. Thinking it would be no big deal, I clicked the link and looked at the picture. That's a flag, folks and it's upside down. No doubt about it. Or maybe I'm wrong and it's just stylized to look like an upside down flag, which might be worse.

The campaign would be wise to subtle their nuances.

Posted by Mike N. 2008-08-19 15:09|| 2008-08-19 15:09|| Front Page Top

#19 If bo sticks his head out of the heavens and hE can no see longer the commandment tablet of hopenchange, then there are still 10 weeks of campaigning season.

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-08-19 15:15|| 2008-08-19 15:15|| Front Page Top

#20 Cut him some slack, guys.

It is a distress symbol, after all, and he's in trouble lately with that book by Corsi, his lame performance even with the help of the "cone of silence", disappointing performance in the polls that can't be blamed yet again on racism and a bunch of other missteps.

(And should he turn this mess around, he can always flip it so that The One can gaze down on the rest of us peons....sort of, with some help from Photoshop.)

Posted by Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-08-19 17:17|| 2008-08-19 17:17|| Front Page Top

#21 troll droppings disinfectedL

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-08-19 18:44|| 2008-08-19 18:44|| Front Page Top

#22 OK, did someone just spoof NS, or did he just lose his mind?

Posted by Gabby Cussworth 2008-08-19 18:58|| 2008-08-19 18:58|| Front Page Top

#23 Just another troll. TW cutz 'em deep. Makes 'em scream.

Posted by .5MT 2008-08-19 19:30|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-08-19 19:30|| Front Page Top

#24 troll on #21 ....spoofing

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-08-19 19:48|| 2008-08-19 19:48|| Front Page Top

#25 moron loose @ #21.

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2008-08-19 19:50|| 2008-08-19 19:50|| Front Page Top

#26 Pretty subtle spoof, yes? RB Dept. of Streets and Sanitation is on it. Carry on.

Posted by Seafarious 2008-08-19 19:55|| 2008-08-19 19:55|| Front Page Top

#27 thx Emily

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-08-19 20:56|| 2008-08-19 20:56|| Front Page Top

#28 Spoof. I was on the way to Boy Scouts at that time.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-08-19 20:58|| 2008-08-19 20:58|| Front Page Top

#29 ;-) NS

Posted by lotp 2008-08-19 21:12|| 2008-08-19 21:12|| Front Page Top

#30 NS - I disagree with you at times, but you're honorable in your arguments. Trolls are so over-the-top that it was obvious...

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