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2009-01-31 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Besoeker 2009-01-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Bullshit.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2009-01-31 00:31|| 2009-01-31 00:31|| Front Page Top

#2 Blackfive has already called bullshit on this, based on some of his (as of now) off the record contacts. So as far as I'm concerned, that means it's well and truly bullshit.

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2009-01-31 03:19|| 2009-01-31 03:19|| Front Page Top

#3 If that is true, notivce the if I don't like that at all. First thing Hitler did when Hindeburg died was to make the military pledge an oath of loyalty to him. To him and nothing else.
This was important because in Germany an oath was something that you carried to the last consequences (a trait of character Nietzche had mentionned several decades before).

Posted by JFM">JFM 2009-01-31 03:49|| 2009-01-31 03:49|| Front Page Top

#4 Mods, this is indeed a hoax. Please pull the thread.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-01-31 07:16|| 2009-01-31 07:16|| Front Page Top

#5 I modified the title to alert people, since this is flying around the blogosphere.

The hoax is credible to many based on a deep distrust of Obama's commitment to our way of life and Constitution. But remember the story about the boy who cried 'Wolf!!'. Too many of these hoaxes and people will ignore any real attacks on our basic liberties and legal mechanisms.

We need to be vigilant but also to check out claims carefully.

Posted by lotp 2009-01-31 08:33|| 2009-01-31 08:33|| Front Page Top

Posted by Midoman 2009-01-31 08:41|| 2009-01-31 08:41|| Front Page Top

#7 Soldiers acting like in Abu ghraib are animals!

News Alert Dude, their fellow soldiers thought the very same thing as they court martialed their asses and sent them to confinement for a very long time. It wasn't the UN or any international court, or a special prosecutor who rendered justice, it was their peers. Unlike 95% of these of this planets human institutions, the American military has very good record in cleaning its own house. It's one of the reason that unlike nearly any other army in history, the little children, regardless of color, race, or creed do not run away from them, but seek them out as protectors.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-01-31 09:24|| 2009-01-31 09:24|| Front Page Top

#8 The irony of this being a hoax will probably be utterly missed by many in the administration and media, who will be utterly puzzled, and ask themselves:

"So what is wrong with making the military swear a loyalty oath to Obama? 'They're *ours* now.'(*)"

(*) This was the infamous statement heard at the Bill Clinton inauguration, when there was an overflight of USAF fighter aircraft. One prominent leftist sneered, expressing his long held hatred of the US military, for which he was chided by another prominent leftist, who said, "No, no. They're *ours* now!"

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-01-31 09:36|| 2009-01-31 09:36|| Front Page Top

#9 :) How are you going to clean the mess you generated in Irak?

Some mess, real free elections [not found in the vast majority of muslim countries] and economy that is growing along with business and industry. How many people in this world want that kind of mess! As for the death rates due to violence, it far less than Chicago.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-01-31 09:51|| 2009-01-31 09:51|| Front Page Top

#10 We already cleaned house in Iraq - Saddam is gone. Iraqi's don't have to worry about his death squads, torture chambers, rape squads, industrial shredders, or rape rooms again.

To prosecute someone they must have done something wrong or illegal - and despite what the MSM and you on the moonbat left say what Bush did wasn't _wrong_ either legally or morally. Nor did he lie. Why do you think Queen Nancy didn't impeach? Because she knew that an impeachment would reveal their lies.

Now if we were to prosecute your U.N. officals (starting with Koffi Annan) that would be a start. We can start with Oil for Palaces (Iraq) and then move on to Nookie for Food (Congo)

Posted by CrazyFool 2009-01-31 09:59|| 2009-01-31 09:59|| Front Page Top

#11
"Some mess, real free elections [not found in the vast majority of muslim countries] and economy that is growing along with business and industry"

What free elections?
Muslims have their own rules and way of life based on tribes and religion. Is it normal that USA impose its way of life to bedouins by invading and killing people? I don't understand you people from behind Atlantic ocean!

Posted by Midoman 2009-01-31 10:02|| 2009-01-31 10:02|| Front Page Top

#12 Is it normal that USA impose its way of life to bedouins by invading and killing people?

No different than the Arabs streaming out of their part of the world conquering the remnants of the Roman and Sassanid Empire and imposing their way of life on people from the Ebro to the Indus. It all depends upon who's ox is getting gored, isn't it.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-01-31 10:14|| 2009-01-31 10:14|| Front Page Top

#13 Muslims have their own rules and way of life based on tribes and religion.

Ah, so they're incapable of democracy, eh?

Posted by Steve White 2009-01-31 10:21|| 2009-01-31 10:21|| Front Page Top

#14

Posted by Midoman 2009-01-31 10:22|| 2009-01-31 10:22|| Front Page Top

#15

Posted by Midoman 2009-01-31 10:31|| 2009-01-31 10:31|| Front Page Top

#16 ..but to impose your way of life with your burgers and naked women! arrrrgh man!

You going to run for mayor of New York?

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-01-31 10:38|| 2009-01-31 10:38|| Front Page Top

#17

Posted by Midoman 2009-01-31 10:45|| 2009-01-31 10:45|| Front Page Top

#18 LOL - I perceive something right now

Posted by Frank G 2009-01-31 11:01|| 2009-01-31 11:01|| Front Page Top

#19 "I just want to understand how you guys from USA ... think"

That's pretty hard for most people who don't live here, and grew up believing that their government/religion knows best and should be in charge of everything.

Most of us don't think like that at all. Although the PC Lefties are trying their best, most of us still think free speech means free speech, not "free unless it hurts somebody's feelings." We also believe everybody in the world should have as much freedom and liberty as we do, because we believe that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are natural - not government-given - rights.

But a lot of us are beginning to not be concerned so much about the rest of the world being free, since so much of the rest of the world doesn't seem to care if they're free. We've already got too many people in this country who think the government is supposed to take care of their every need, instead of working to take care of themselves.

When you surrender the care of yourself and your family to the government, you sell yourself into slavery to the government. Most of us aren't interested in being slaves - but it appears to us most of the rest of the world doesn't care if they are.

Does that help any?

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-01-31 11:13|| 2009-01-31 11:13|| Front Page Top

#20 troll alert - don't bother throwing pearls before swine.

We live in a federalist republic, not a democracy. At least read our constitution prior to spouting off stupidities. Idiot troll.

By the way, this is total b.s. All our top brass would resign and there would be a revolt if this crap were true.

Posted by Herman Flineck aka Broadhead6 2009-01-31 12:03|| 2009-01-31 12:03|| Front Page Top

#21 maybe you should learn too spell iraq before running off at the mouth

Posted by rabid whitetail 2009-01-31 12:37|| 2009-01-31 12:37|| Front Page Top

#22 As Mr. Lotp notes, the oath to defend the Constitution is literally written in stone, at West Point and elsewhere.

Posted by lotp 2009-01-31 12:38|| 2009-01-31 12:38|| Front Page Top

#23 maybe you should learn too spell iraq before running off at the mouth

I believe that's the French spelling of Iraq. One of our French posters can correct me if I'm wrong.

And your comment is funny, considering how you habitually spell 'to' as 'too'.

Posted by Pappy 2009-01-31 13:27|| 2009-01-31 13:27|| Front Page Top

#24 I to am want naked burgers. Pls forward soon.

Also: lol.

Also: HalfEmpty is make suspend your exchange account for 48 hours for forwarding this messery.

Posted by .5MT 2009-01-31 13:51|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2009-01-31 13:51|| Front Page Top

#25 your way of life with your burgers and naked women!

I'm a little late to the game here and missed all the trollish goodness, but if it involves burgers and naked women, I'm in. Democracy! Whiskey! Sexy!

Posted by SteveS 2009-01-31 14:02|| 2009-01-31 14:02|| Front Page Top

#26 and football! and more whiskey! and some tequila too! After that, everyone looks sexy(!)

Posted by Frank G 2009-01-31 14:31|| 2009-01-31 14:31|| Front Page Top

#27 See the shallowness and superficiality of Mr. Midoman's thoughts, though he boasted last night of speaking the three languages of his native Barbary Coast (Arabic, Berber, and French) plus English. He thinks that what we ultimately offer to him are the twin evils of women who dress as they choose, and food different than that his mother makes... and that he is superior because he has learnt to access the internet that we invented and that is available to him because some of us wish to use it while in his part of the world. But he need not, does he not wish it, yet believes that because we make it available to all, therefore he must and will conquer us.

The silly man ignores all evidence of the last two centiries that his Allah favours our cause, not his.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2009-01-31 14:36|| 2009-01-31 14:36|| Front Page Top

#28 "The silly man ignores all evidence of the last two centuries that his Allah favours our cause, not his."

Yee-ouch, tw.

That's gonna leave a mark ~~on the troll's ass~~.

When I grow up, I wanna be just like you. :-D

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-01-31 14:43|| 2009-01-31 14:43|| Front Page Top

#29 Darling Barbara, always so sweet. :-) Except when she's not, when I try to be well behind instead of in front of her.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2009-01-31 20:28|| 2009-01-31 20:28|| Front Page Top

#30 And smart, too!

TW, you've got it all. ;-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-01-31 21:18|| 2009-01-31 21:18|| Front Page Top

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