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2010-01-11 Science
Experts: Cold snap doesn't disprove global warming
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Posted by Bobby 2010-01-11 06:53|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ]  Top

#1 Notice that cold sanps don't disprove but hot ones do prove?
Posted by JFM  2010-01-11 07:09||   2010-01-11 07:09|| Front Page Top

#2 While I happen to agree, it sure sounds lame. For me, it's the ice cores that disprove man-made global warming. And the scams, of course.

Interesting, though, the claim "that 2009 will rank among the 10 warmest years for Earth since 1880." So says Deke Arndt of the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. That's really the 'news' in the article.
Posted by Bobby 2010-01-11 07:10||   2010-01-11 07:10|| Front Page Top

#3 The experts are lame, not our French friend!
Posted by Bobby 2010-01-11 07:11||   2010-01-11 07:11|| Front Page Top

#4 Can't have their gravy train of grants taken away now, can we?
Posted by DarthVader 2010-01-11 07:29||   2010-01-11 07:29|| Front Page Top

#5 Darth they will ride that gravy train over the cliff before they admit that MMGW is a steamy pile of Algore..
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2010-01-11 08:55||   2010-01-11 08:55|| Front Page Top

#6 The streets of Peoria will see Polar Bears before this scam dies.
Posted by Besoeker 2010-01-11 09:13||   2010-01-11 09:13|| Front Page Top

#7 newstips@wtop.com

Send this source "feedback", troops. Don't just comment here.
Posted by Boss Snomotle8280 2010-01-11 10:04||   2010-01-11 10:04|| Front Page Top

#8 I like to point out the blindingly obvious science. When you have *both* extra cold winters and extra hot summers, it is evidence of the *absence* of a greenhouse effect.

In a real greenhouse, temperature and humidity have a narrow range of variation, to protect plants. It creates an artificial greenhouse effect to do this.

But on the surface of the Moon, with no atmosphere, if things are illuminated by the Sun, they are very hot, and if in the shade, they are very cold. No greenhouse effect at all.

So ignoring everything else, having greater variation in seasons does not justify that we have a greenhouse effect, in fact it asserts that we have less greenhouse effect than normal.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2010-01-11 10:11||   2010-01-11 10:11|| Front Page Top

#9 The longer a cold "snap" lasts the more it falsifies the theory of exponential warming as it becomes vanishing unlikely to be true, and the cold snap to be an random artefact.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2010-01-11 10:43||   2010-01-11 10:43|| Front Page Top

#10 We have been freezing our arses off in East Tennessee this year. Last year was similar. The newspaper said this is the most extensive and deep cold spell since 1895. I hope the Global Warmers have trouble swallowing the crow feathers as they go down.

I don't usually pay much attention to conspiracy theories such as on Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura. However, yesterday there was a section on truTV outlining how the GW swindle began at the UN with Maurice Strong; a shadowy billionaire who has made a lot of money off this scam.
Posted by JohnQC 2010-01-11 11:26||   2010-01-11 11:26|| Front Page Top

#11 Agreed--cold snap doesn't disprove global warming. Manipulated data, twisted algorithms and lying "scientists" do, but cold snap? No.
Posted by Dar 2010-01-11 13:40||   2010-01-11 13:40|| Front Page Top

#12 I smell cluebat comming.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-01-11 14:58||   2010-01-11 14:58|| Front Page Top

#13 Are they backing off a little? It used to be that cold snaps were more proof of global warming. In fact, no matter what happened, it was more proof.
Posted by Iblis 2010-01-11 15:04||   2010-01-11 15:04|| Front Page Top

#14 And in today's news: Britain on gas alert as extreme cold freezes Norway’s undersea pipelines
 National Grid issued a gas balancing alert, its fourth warning in a week, when pressure dropped over the weekend in the Langeled pipeline that delivers gas from Norway to a terminal in eastern England.
Ohio had a similar situation in the winter of 1976-77 when severe cold interfered with gas pipeline operations.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-01-11 15:40||   2010-01-11 15:40|| Front Page Top

#15 It does prove the rigged models, which failed to predict this, used to justify the alarm were nothing but garbage. It therefore casts the entire enterprise as nothing more than a new age religion based upon 'belief' rather than predictable facts.
Posted by Procopius2k 2010-01-11 15:50||   2010-01-11 15:50|| Front Page Top

#16 It's not so easy to measure or estimate Earth's temperatures. Establishing cause and effect to explain variability is even more difficult. It is even more difficult when the process has a political overlay and so-called scientists fudge the data.
Posted by JohnQC 2010-01-11 16:58||   2010-01-11 16:58|| Front Page Top

#17 Ahhhhh, AH, the memories of '76-'77.....

I was on Cape Cod at the time, Nantucket Island was iced in in Dec. and couldn't get supplies, an oil tanker went down off the Cape (Argo Merchant?) a foot of snow on the lower cape and us with 10 horses to take care of.....the joy......

Of course it hit 70 or higher on Valentines day and was warm for the rest of the winter / spring. That was a doozy of a year.
Posted by AlanC  2010-01-11 17:00||   2010-01-11 17:00|| Front Page Top

#18 Yokay-y-y, I'll bite, not to bust anyone's bubble but these Perts want MADONNA FANS such as Moi, whom has physically seen both the original SIRIUS EVENT + as well as VARIOUS EARTH/GUAM-VISIBLE SOLAR FLARE EMANATIONS, ETC. SINCE SIRIUS to believe that MANKIND + ONLY ONLY O-N-L-Y OOOOOONNNNNNNNLLLLLLLYYYYYYY, D *** YOU, MANKIND IS THE SOLE AND ONLY CAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING [now also GLOBAL COOLING].

Once again, as someone whom is NOT a professional Space Astronomer, Astro-Solar Physicist, Solar Scientist, etc. I ASK THE SAME QUESTION AS TIMES PRIOR > IS THERE A [serious? cataclysmic?]PROBLEM WITH THE SUN, e.g. SO-CALLED "MISSING SUNSPOTS"???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-01-11 19:28||   2010-01-11 19:28|| Front Page Top

#19 TOPIX > IPCC SCIENTIST: GLOBAL COOLING TO AFFECT US OVER THIRTY YEARS [+ North Pole may be shifting].

* SAME > EXPERTS: CLIMATE CONDITIONS IN YEAR 2050 IMPORTANT FOR YEAR 2100 [World needs GW Agreement NOW].
Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-01-11 21:45||   2010-01-11 21:45|| Front Page Top

#20 "Experts: Cold snap doesn't disprove global warming"

They misspelled "idiots."
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2010-01-11 22:23||   2010-01-11 22:23|| Front Page Top

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