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Liberalism is What is Killing California

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2010-01-11 11:04|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 Ooops! Missed the link.

Liberalism is What is Killing California

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2010-01-11 11:16|| 2010-01-11 11:16|| Front Page Top

#2 Please let me see if I understand all this...

If you cross the North Korean border illegally you get 12 years hard labor.
If you cross the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely.
If you cross the Afghan border illegally, you get shot.
If you cross the Turkish border illegally, you spend the rest of your life
in prison!
But, if you cross the U.S. border illegally and enter California you get:

A driver's license
A social security card
Welfare
Food stamps
Voting rights, no ID required
and, free health care?

Is that correct? Please advise.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-01-11 11:32|| 2010-01-11 11:32|| Front Page Top

#3 That's exactly right, Besoeker.

Always remember, folks, it isn't just home-grown liberalism that is killing California. This state is a victim of your federal government which has been derelict in its duty to protect us from being overrun by illegal aliens. I've said it before and I will take this opportunity to say it again: this is the state that gave you Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Could we do it again? With all the demographic changes and all the other socialist bullshit that has been forced upon us by Washington, DC? When you take than holier-than-thou position that I've noticed more and more lately on Rantburg, remember you are all just as much to blame for what has happened to California as I am. We are a part of your country, the United States, so what is happening here should alarm you just as much as it does me. And remember this too, if they can do it to California they can do it to you just as easily.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-01-11 12:05|| 2010-01-11 12:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Open borders are an issue, but not the biggest part of the California disaster.
The biggest political party/persuasion in the USA is the "Free Lunch" Party, whose members want to spend, spend, spend on programs they favor and never ever pay the price, at least not in their lifetimes. The Free Lunch Party has both liberals & conservatives in it.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-01-11 15:20|| 2010-01-11 15:20|| Front Page Top

#5 ..remember you are all just as much to blame for what has happened to California as I am.

Except the same Washington attitude applied to Texas just as California. Texas made decisions that California did not.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-01-11 15:52|| 2010-01-11 15:52|| Front Page Top

#6 Lucky Texas. But somehow I don't think Texas has as many jobs for them as we do. Look at it this way, we used to be a red state and now we're blue. How do you think an Orange County congressional district that once elected B1 Bob Dornan turned around and elected Loretta Sanchez? OK, maybe Dornan was a kook but you'd think if you were a member of the Republican party you'd have been screaming about the transformation of all those electoral college votes from Republican to Democrat. But there was never a peep. Why not?

I don't deny that California politicians are irresponsible. They are the worst. But they've been operating hand-in-hand with the federal government in both Republican and Democrat administrations. The federal government has to take its fair share of the blame for California.

What's gonna happen when we stop paying for all the goodies those illegal aliens get? Will AG Holder take us to court for disobeying federal mandates?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-01-11 16:30|| 2010-01-11 16:30|| Front Page Top

#7 When you make cognizant decision, luck in not involved. Texas and Florida did not develop a state welfare and program system like California even though they too have migrant labor businesses. That is choice.

When a federal judge mandates equal access to programs for citizens and illegals alike, it is relative to within that state for state programs. They do not decree that people in one state are entitled to program standards of another state. If one state's government chooses to engage in programs which are generous compared to others, the other states are not obligated to provide similar levels of remuneration to those within their borders. That is a local choice that results in either attracting or deflecting migration and its consequences.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-01-11 17:47|| 2010-01-11 17:47|| Front Page Top

#8 OK. You got welfare covered. What about schools, hospitals and prisons?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-01-11 19:20|| 2010-01-11 19:20|| Front Page Top

#9 It would be interesting if illegal aliens were shoved across the border at San Ysidro with only the clothes on their backs with everything else confiscated by the state as partial compensation for the cost of providing for them. If the state can confiscate property used in the commission of a crime, there seems to be precedent. Also, shut down electronic remittances.

Posted by rwv 2010-01-11 19:42|| 2010-01-11 19:42|| Front Page Top

#10 Lets not fergit DETROIT'S FIFTY PERCENT
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-01-11 20:33|| 2010-01-11 20:33|| Front Page Top

#11 What about schools, hospitals and prisons?

How's the state employee union influence in Texas? Texas is a right to work state. That too is a political judgment call by the state.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-01-11 21:08|| 2010-01-11 21:08|| Front Page Top

#12 Schools, hospitals and prisons were also affected by the Golden State's wonderful judicial system. Few, if any other states, mandate things like aromatherapy and alternative treatments for inmates. That crap can't be cut....it's been mandated by the courts in your state.

So now, when California's schools are a national joke, your hospitals are going broke, and your prison system is failing, you try to turn all of that on the rest of us, saying the rest of us are all to blame, too? You have got to be freakin' kidding me.

The rest of us were never consulted on whether or not your state's dumb policies should have been enacted. Nope, never, not once. We certainly never got to vote on any of it. California voters made all those idiot decisions by themselves, thanks. Your state plowed ahead, did boneheaded things, and if your post shows the typical attitude (hope not) you still don't want to own up to it.

Texas, New Mexico and Arizona have been dealing with the same kind of stress on their school, health care and prison systems from illegal immigration and in-migration from other states. Their budgets got hammered. Arizona's got a huge deficit, and New Mexico could use some help, too. None of those three states are expecting, or worse yet, demanding a bailout. Take a hint.

Posted by Cornsilk Blondie 2010-01-11 21:27|| 2010-01-11 21:27|| Front Page Top

#13 The bottom line is that politicians of both parties are hooked on unrestrained illegal immigration as an ecomomic stimulus. Americans have not reproduced in big numbers since the advent of the birth control pill. Even if illegals are a strain on welfare systems they do produce demand for housing, give employers cheap and disposible workers etc. Until we either have more kids or change the population growth driven ecomomic model that our system demands, we are stuck.

Face it, if large numbers of illegals move into your neighborhood, what do you do? You buy a new house in a newer area.. This mechanism has driven california's economy for 50 years.

Posted by Don Vito Spoluns7748 2010-01-11 23:39|| 2010-01-11 23:39|| Front Page Top

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