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2010-10-05 Home Front: WoT

"Able Danger" - Report Suggest Cover-Up of 9/11 Findings

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2010-10-05 00:50|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Oh, gawd, not more troofer therories!

If true though:

This game has been played before, reference "FRUPAC, JN-25, pearl harbor" and has the same outcome--

Intel is worthless without leadership that is able and willing to act on it. See clinton, william jefferson, 42nd president, and gorelic, jamie for why this info was not acted upon.

Posted by nGuard 2010-10-05 01:22|| 2010-10-05 01:22|| Front Page Top

#2 The DOD just purchased the entire first printing of the book which detailed this data mining program... and destroyed it. And now comes a Fox News report that the IG investigation was perverted. Alarm bells are ringing.

The non-military nature of the 9-11 attack makes Pearl Harbor analogies problematic, IMO. The argument could cut both ways -- it's both more and less understandable that a disciplined military organization could send a task force across half an ocean to successfully launch an aerial assault. The Japanese gave unmistakable signs of activity in the days leading up to Pearl Harbor. But these were misinterpreted. Many Naval Intelligence officers were of the opinion that the Japanese were about to attack British and Dutch possessions in the Far East -- which they did. Only Nippon's target set included US territories as well.

What unmistakable signs of activity did Atta and his bunch produce? It seems that there were some. But it is not for us to know. Perhaps if our government invents a high enough security clearance the minds of the citizenry will compartment. The very memory of that day will be unavailable to those without the code word.

Posted by Pstanley 2010-10-05 03:21|| 2010-10-05 03:21|| Front Page Top

#3 It's not the deed or misdeed. It's the cover-up.

Posted by Spatch Speaking for Boskone8774 2010-10-05 07:04|| 2010-10-05 07:04|| Front Page Top

#4 Conspiracy theory or not, at a time when our industry has been destroyed and the US treasury is totally broke, why does our government and INS continue to provide sancturary, meal tickets, education, and medical care (anchor birthing) to hundreds of thousands of muslims and others arriving at our shores or crossing our borders each year? Why is Judeo-Christian culture be abandoned?

Posted by Besoeker 2010-10-05 08:11|| 2010-10-05 08:11|| Front Page Top

#5 Why is Judeo-Christian culture being abandoned?

Posted by Besoeker 2010-10-05 08:15|| 2010-10-05 08:15|| Front Page Top

#6 Oh, gawd, not more troofer therories!

No. The question surrounding Able Danger is not an inside job theory its a personal incompetence theory. (Though some have tried to say its proof of the former.) Remember the old Failure of imagination and Smokestack conclusions? And remember how far Sandy Berger was willing to go in order to perpetuate the systemic failure narrative. With that example alone, it shouldn't be all that surprising how aggressivly the investigation into AD was shut down.

Posted by DepotGuy 2010-10-05 10:10|| 2010-10-05 10:10|| Front Page Top

#7 Given the wall built by President Clinton between the FBI and the CIA -- and who knows who else -- the surprise is that they were permitted to recognize that 9/11 happened at all. Thank God George W. Bush was in the White House, to not only recognize the need to tear down that wall, but the gumption to do so.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-10-05 10:19|| 2010-10-05 10:19|| Front Page Top

#8 Clinton certainly added spot tuckpointing and a few new bricks to the wall. These law enforcement and intelligence agencies have enjoyed intercene rivalries and backbiting from near inception. It continues today inspite of the creation of a Director of National Intelligence. Knowing well where it's bread is buttered, the bureau clings to Sir Eric Holder, and it's DoJ legal masters for survival. Both the Central Intelligence Agency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation need to be cast into the nearest rubbish bin. A British intelligence, LE construct and partnership is very sadly needed here.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-10-05 10:31|| 2010-10-05 10:31|| Front Page Top

#9 When you go back through the reams of information gathered every day it is not hard to find the "who done it" of an attack after the fact. So to say we knew about Atta, is probably factual. A testament to our gathering abilities. Deciding which slice of intel is real before an attack is much more complicated, hard to push up, and even harder to act on. Say they did know about Atta. The way he had it set up the attack could have still gone off, minus one aircraft. I'm not trying to say we get a pass on this one, or that our agencies are not filled with politicians, but I still hold that this attack in one form or another would have still gotten through. It was planned and executed very well.

While most of America still points fingers at who failed here, we still need to move forward as to how to organize our community as to better prevent this type of attack and still defend against our other threats, China, Iran, etc...

As far as Able Danger goes. There seems to be a level of hypocrisy going on. First our congress-critters went mad in the press when Able Danger was outed, now they are wanting that info and screaming as to why it was not acted on. Just hen-house crap and we are stuck in the internal squabble and rendered incapable of properly defending ourselves as a nation.

Last thought on this, and thanks for the bandwidth to get this out. I am still of the belief that OBL and his few men could not have planned and executed this on their own. I believe it was too complicated, too many ways to draw attention, and too hard to execute on the timeline like it did for a bunch of ragheads to perform. As time passed we will discover that either a major nation, a large corporation or both played a role in this. I still hold that the Bin Laden company in association with the soddies performed all the logistics, detailed planning, and CI to make this attack come off.

Posted by 49 Pan 2010-10-05 11:33|| 2010-10-05 11:33|| Front Page Top

#10 Most, if not all terrorism is indeed "state funded." Excellent analysis Pan.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-10-05 11:52|| 2010-10-05 11:52|| Front Page Top

#11 The DOD just purchased the entire first printing of the book which detailed this data mining program... and destroyed it.
Not true. The DOD did not get the entire first printing, since some copies were given or sold to private parties. I don't know what they hoped to accomplish by that. As long as a single copy exists somewhere, the information can be discovered.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-10-05 15:18|| 2010-10-05 15:18|| Front Page Top

#12 If I was Shafer and his publishing company, I would continue to make copies but add a new blurb.

"See what the DOD doesn't want you to know!!!"

Posted by DK70 the Scantily Clad7177 2010-10-05 15:41|| 2010-10-05 15:41|| Front Page Top

#13 As long as a single copy exists somewhere, the information can be discovered.

As long as the author has his manuscript... or his notes... or his memory of the outline, the information can be discovered.

There. Fixed it for you, Anguper Hupomosing9418. ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2010-10-05 16:22|| 2010-10-05 16:22|| Front Page Top

#14 check out "Triple Cross"

Kind of a case study in federal intel incompetence.

Posted by Broadhead6 2010-10-05 17:40|| 2010-10-05 17:40|| Front Page Top

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