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2010-10-24 --Tech & Moderator Notes
What Wilileaks Proves this Weekend
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Posted by Steve White 2010-10-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 Just wait until the regular readers of the NYT figure that out.

Don't hold your breath.
Posted by Pappy 2010-10-24 00:43||   2010-10-24 00:43|| Front Page Top

#2 NYT will bury this in a hurry. Why? Smoking gun on the Iranians.
Posted by OldSpook 2010-10-24 01:27||   2010-10-24 01:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Just wait until the regular readers of the NYT figure that out

logic, facts, consequences and responsibilities over "feelings". I concur with Pappy
Posted by Frank G 2010-10-24 01:28||   2010-10-24 01:28|| Front Page Top

#4 You could start with Danger Room Here...
Posted by newc 2010-10-24 06:16||   2010-10-24 06:16|| Front Page Top

#5 [Putting on a tin hat] Unless the NYT et al are laying the ground work to save FDR Part II with casus belli. However [the infamous However], it would be more like the Argentinian Junta trying to distract its population from the severe domestic problems with a foreign adventure [which would then cement another lefty Freudian projection which it traditionally accuses others of - though it would be entertaining to watch Code Pink spin on it].
Posted by Procopius2k 2010-10-24 08:37||   2010-10-24 08:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Iran have meddled in Iraq and Pakistan in Afghanistan from day one but we continue to let them off.Why?
Posted by Paul D 2010-10-24 09:44||   2010-10-24 09:44|| Front Page Top

#7 but we continue to let them off.Why?

Give us another quarter of a million equipped and trained troops, and a society willing to support another war front or two, and we'll do it, Paul.
Posted by trailing wife 2010-10-24 11:00||   2010-10-24 11:00|| Front Page Top

#8 It would take a lot more troops than that to "win" militarily. And that won't happen. Our victory will come as the culture of Islam is destroyed modernized. In addition to participating in the process of modernization, the military will keep the worst elements from our door. But they can never achieve victory in the sense of Potsdam or Appomattox. The next victory will be along the lines of the Indian Wars or the Cold War. Long, slow, and ultimately unidentifiable.

Regarding this issue Glenn Reynolds asks the question cui bono? Leaking is the District sport.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-10-24 11:26||   2010-10-24 11:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Just wait until the regular readers of the NYT figure that out.

Well, the Sunday NYT has an article up on what a weird little dude Assange is. As of right now, there are about 350 comments to the article, and a whole bunch of them accuse the NYT of running a "hit piece" on the heroic Assange (presumably in contrast to the public service articles the NYT runs on Palin.)

As for the papers: The purpose of their release is not to disclose Iran's role but to attack the conduct of the US and UK militaries. All I've done is to look at the summaries in the leftist media, but my reaction is: Is that all you got? Has any military in history looked so good after having its secure communications publicly dissected by the ideological enemy? The best the Guardian can come up with is that one Apache crew opened fire when the Guardian says they shouldn't have. Also, the army and Marines forgot to say "Mother May I?" before storming Fallujah. Bo-ring.
Posted by Matt 2010-10-24 11:51||   2010-10-24 11:51|| Front Page Top

#10 The purpose of their release is not to disclose Iran's role but to attack the conduct of the US and UK militaries. All I've done is to look at the summaries in the leftist media, but my reaction is: Is that all you got?

Exactly Reynolds' point.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-10-24 11:56||   2010-10-24 11:56|| Front Page Top

#11 Borrowing P2k's tin foil hat for a moment, let's overlay the leak chronology on the political chronology:

2003-2008 -- Evil Boosh launches war based on lies. Runs around Iraq stealing toys from Iraqi children and giving wedgies to old Iraqi men. Result: No Leaks. Robert Redford threatens to leave the country but forgets to do so.

2009- Evil Boosh is replaced as POTUS by The One. Seas stop rising.

Summer 2010- Unexpectedly, The One starts tanking and it becomes clear that the mid-terms will be tough. Result: Big Leak by a single dissident intelligence analyst, a/k/a The Lone Gunmen.

Fall 2010- Unexpectedly, The One keeps tanking and is taking Nancy/Harry/Bawney down with him. Result: Really Big Leak by the Lone Gunmen.

Add to this the fact that the folks being attacked by the Leaks-- the military -- aren't exactly part of The One's base and are possessed of the strange notion that the US is an honorable nation worthy of defending.

Posted by Matt 2010-10-24 12:24||   2010-10-24 12:24|| Front Page Top

#12 the folks being attacked by the Leaks-- the military

It is a really effective attack, too. I see the opinion of the American people in their military as a result of this leak...utterly unchanged. If you wanted to attack the military, this was a lousy way to do it. Almost no one's opinion will be changed as a result of this leak.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-10-24 12:42||   2010-10-24 12:42|| Front Page Top

#13 I fully agree. But the left doesn't seem to have grasped the fact that a very considerable majority of Americans see their sons and daughters in uniform as heroes. The One smiles big when he greets soldiers but the hostility and suspicion just oozes out.
Posted by Matt 2010-10-24 12:58||   2010-10-24 12:58|| Front Page Top

#14 It will be no surprise to know that America, never perfect, is far better than those who have ruled in that unhappy region.

I remember the Sunni insurgents themselves saying:
"compared to Al Qaeda, the Americans are just and kind".

Then they joined the Sons of Iraq. Now they want the Americans to stay.
Posted by Frozen Al 2010-10-24 13:32||   2010-10-24 13:32|| Front Page Top

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