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Set Your BS Meter on High: Tea Party Caused Tucson Massacre

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2011-01-11 10:32|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Had a fun time yesterday on FB "debating" the loony lefties in the family on this. All the typical talking points were covered and immediatel abandoned upon refutation, hilarious.

You can't reason people out of a position that they were never reasoned into.

Posted by Alan Cramer 2011-01-11 10:53|| 2011-01-11 10:53|| Front Page Top

#2 As the saying goes.
Dont tell me the facts, my mind is made up

Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-01-11 10:56|| 2011-01-11 10:56|| Front Page Top

#3 The Left is working itself up to do something really, really stupid. Its lower primate behavior when 'territory' is at stake between two clans. Lots of screaming and posturing. Meanwhile the vitriolic Palin hate just keeps rolling out of their own pie holes with amazing ease. Unfortunately, it may be Archduke Ferdinand-Sarajevo moment when one of 'theirs' does that something stupid.

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-01-11 11:15|| 2011-01-11 11:15|| Front Page Top

#4 My BS meter went off-scale & then exploded early Saturday afternoon when Paul Krugman started pontificating in the NYT and Sheriff Numnutz began his emissions. We have hit a new low, and no, I am not referring to mass shootings in Tucson or anywhere else.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-01-11 11:40|| 2011-01-11 11:40|| Front Page Top

#5 An interesting, absolutely fascinating discussion of The Archduke Ferdinand-Sarajevo moment is here. My takeaway was that AF-S moments happen all the time, and systems normally cope with them. But occasionally the systems become so ossified and overwhelmed by the increased change and complexity progress creates that they fail to cope with one particular momentary challenge and that failure has catastrophic consequences. They are social "O" rings.

I believe that is where we are as a country. The old New Deal social contract is less and less capable of coping with the changed world in which we live. Everyone knows this. But the "liberals" who created it have so much invested in it and fear the unknown alternative so much that they will distort reality as much as is necessary to retain it. The "conservatives" who see its weaknesses grow more numerous every year. We are approaching a tipping point where some AF-S event will reveal how little support is left for the old model and its disintegration will force us to create a new one. That will not be a painless effort, either. But it's coming.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-01-11 12:02|| 2011-01-11 12:02|| Front Page Top

#6 The progressives spew hate and bile. They always have. It is just now more and more people have caught onto their game so they get even more hateful and spew more.

I feel P2K may be right. How long until this explodes into even more violence?

Posted by DarthVader 2011-01-11 12:03|| 2011-01-11 12:03|| Front Page Top

#7 Forgot to embed the link to the talk which is here: Outbreak of War in 1914: A New Look at an Old Problem

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-01-11 12:04|| 2011-01-11 12:04|| Front Page Top

#8 What kills me is that the lefties are blaming conservative news sources.

For some reason, I doubt that the killer paid enough attention to conservative news sources to ever see anything like a bullseye on Giffords' district.

More likely, he saw a bullseye on Giffords' face from a way-liberal "news" source.

I'm tired of this crap. If there was any time it would be appropriate and indicated to attack the left for being stupid, this is it. Fox, Limbaugh, and all the rest ought to be hammering these idiots.

Posted by gorb 2011-01-11 12:32|| 2011-01-11 12:32|| Front Page Top

#9 Same here, Alan Cramer. Somehow it just HAS to be the Conservatives/ Sarah Palin/ Tea Party's fault.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2011-01-11 12:56|| 2011-01-11 12:56|| Front Page Top

#10 I just love the way Sarah Palin makes all these loonies get their panties in a bunch. C'mon now, she's gotta be doing something right if they are so afraid of her.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-01-11 13:53|| 2011-01-11 13:53|| Front Page Top

#11 Could it it be that all the hooting, screaming, and chest thumping is not aimed at conservatives at all, but rather intended to fire up their lefty robots and start something else?

Posted by SR-71 2011-01-11 14:01|| 2011-01-11 14:01|| Front Page Top

#12 Actually, the "cross-hairs" on Sarah Palin's campaign map are not cross-hairs but markers commonly seen on maps. The Daily Kos had a bull's eye on Giffords' picture.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2011-01-11 14:22|| 2011-01-11 14:22|| Front Page Top

#13 I'm wondering if Giffords will recover and be so put off with the lefttards that she'll switch back to the Pubs. A woman can change her mind you know.

Posted by Besoeker 2011-01-11 14:32|| 2011-01-11 14:32|| Front Page Top

#14 Besoeker have you dug out yet? Cumming is still buried

Posted by Beavis 2011-01-11 14:50|| 2011-01-11 14:50|| Front Page Top

#15

Could it it be that all the hooting, screaming, and chest thumping is not aimed at conservatives at all, but rather intended to fire up their lefty robots and start something else?

That is not a pleasant thought.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2011-01-11 16:16|| 2011-01-11 16:16|| Front Page Top

#16 That would explain a lot.

Posted by swksvolFF 2011-01-11 18:00|| 2011-01-11 18:00|| Front Page Top

#17 Nimble Spemble #5:

"The old New Deal social contract is less and less capable of coping with the changed world in which we live. Everyone knows this. But the "liberals" who created it have so much invested in it and fear the unknown alternative so much that they will distort reality as much as is necessary to retain it."

Mister, you said a mouthful.

The New Deal heresy on the American concept didn't ever deal with the problems that it claimed it was designed to fix in the early 1930's. It did do two things:

a)kick the can down the road on a lot of economic issues relating to central banking, interest rates, and investment instead of repealing a lot of Wilsons "reforms", and

b)created a massive number of public sector sinecures and widespread addiction to government funding when the charity industry was nationalized.

As such, there are millions of people living here whose income stream security is so tied to the system that any change, even necessary and good changes for the nation as a whole, will be highly disruptive. To a huge sector of the populace whose only true religion is worship of perfect income stream security provided by the government, this is something they've told themselves they cannot face. Therefore, ossification. The best example is the mindless reaction against even the most sensible and mild social security reforms.

And as you correctly point out, this situation leads to eruptions.

Posted by no mo uro 2011-01-11 18:24|| 2011-01-11 18:24|| Front Page Top

#18 I was waiting for one of these "the devil made him do it" articles. Typical nonsense from pseudo-intelectual libtards.

Posted by Broadhead6 2011-01-11 18:41|| 2011-01-11 18:41|| Front Page Top

#19 The murderer was a primed killer, looking for targets. But he was primed by his own maladjustment.

Posted by Dino Creck3701 2011-01-11 19:24|| 2011-01-11 19:24|| Front Page Top

#20 dear no mo uro,

While I agree with your statement the problem is all the people who have been welded to the "perfect income stream" through no fault of their own.

At my 60+ age I cannot do without all the money that was taken from me for Medicare and SS. While I worked hard for 40 years I could only save so much over and above the taxes. Take away the ~$200k I've given the feds for retirement expenses and things look real tight despite having managed to save almost twice that on my own.

Posted by Alan Cramer 2011-01-11 20:06|| 2011-01-11 20:06|| Front Page Top

#21 Alan,

At my 60+ age, I recognize that the rest of my life will be nothing like what I imagined. We can and will do without the social security funds we were promised or the health care we were promised, our savings will be eroded by Bernanke's inflation and the boomer generation will pass on in poverty unknown since the 50's, to the great pleasure of those who hate us for the wrong reasons. There's really little that can be done about it at this point. I just hope you reared your children well.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-01-11 20:59|| 2011-01-11 20:59|| Front Page Top

#22 Nimble, an erie excerpt from the late Dr. W. A. Criswell in 1974.

If I could pick out Satan, as he really is, I would picture him as a great, popular leader of government. And he comes forth as the champion of the people and rather than face the harsh realities and stubborn facts of economic life, he soothes the people into the persuasion that he is their great benefactor and patron, and he looks at the printing press making money ; thousands of dollars, millions of dollars. And he gives order through the instruments of government for deficit financing, and the pressesit is that simpleand they print money, and print money, and the government goes in debt and what finally happens is: it's a painless way to rob the poor, and to destroy the pensioner, and finally to bring the country into economic collapse and chaos. That is Satan! Smart, shrewd, deceptive, but beyond his soft and mellifluous t voice there is destruction and ruin: that is Satan. 02-24-1974

Posted by Flamp Ebbinert7279 2011-01-11 23:11|| 2011-01-11 23:11|| Front Page Top

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