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2011-03-03 Economy

Ohio Senate Passes Bill Limiting Collective Bargaining

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-03-03 03:01|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 So is the big show in Madison now going to drive over to Columbus? On the SEIU bus, of course.

Posted by Bobby 2011-03-03 05:59|| 2011-03-03 05:59|| Front Page Top

#2 The big show was already here, Bobby. Here are links to articles on the subject in the Cincinnati Enquirer:

Senate Bill 5 Approved By One Vote
In the three weeks since Jones released details of Senate Bill 5, the Statehouse was filled to capacity with pro- and anti-union protesters, locked down to control opponents and ultimately surrounded by a record crowd of 10,000 Tuesday shouting, "kill the bill, kill the bill.

The Statehouse was jammed again Wednesday. After three hours of Senate debate, the bill passed by a vote of 17 to 16. Six Republicans including Seitz joined all 10 Democratic senators in opposition.

Thousands of union members booed from outside the Senate while a handful of supporters applauded within the crowded chambers.

Breaking Down Senate Bill 5

Posted by trailing wife 2011-03-03 08:28|| 2011-03-03 08:28|| Front Page Top

#3 $1.57 billion in wages and 689 million in fringe benefits covering 360,000 public union employees.

A significant chunk of change. The rust belt is trying to dig itself out from under years of Democratic and union rule. Maybe these states (New Jersey, Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio, New York) will have a hope of becoming economically viable and attracting industry back. The high taxes required to support public unions are a disincentive for industry to locate in these states.

A couple of observations:

One difference between unions in private industry and public unions is that state and local governments cannot be privatized or move to another location as can industry. The taxpayers are held captive. All the taxpayers can do is move somewhere else if taxes become onerous and they can afford to move. Many don't have this option.

There is a city in Georgia (mentioned on John Stoessel) that has privatized many city functions. There is no union involved. Trash collection, bus driving, maintenance of streets, etc. are all done more efficiently and effectively. Workers seem work with more incentive too.

I've never seen such squealing, whining, thuggery, bad behavior and intimidation from the unions as I have seen in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Indiana. If the Tea Party engaged in any of this behavior, we would not hear the end of it from the MSM.

Posted by JohnQC 2011-03-03 09:07|| 2011-03-03 09:07|| Front Page Top

#4 state and local governments [often] cannot be privatized

Posted by JohnQC 2011-03-03 09:09|| 2011-03-03 09:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Rural/Metro Corporation is a leading provider of emergency and non-emergency medical transportation services, fire protection and other safety-related services to municipal, residential, commercial and industrial customers in approximately 400 communities throughout the United States.

Here is a picture of one of their distinctive, greenish-yellow fire trucks.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-03-03 09:15|| 2011-03-03 09:15|| Front Page Top

#6 Both are in FEMA Region V. I am sure there must be some Federal subsidy or compensation plan for the People's Patriotic Union members.

Posted by Besoeker 2011-03-03 09:34|| 2011-03-03 09:34|| Front Page Top

#7 The Georgia city proves something I've been saying for a while: public services don't necessarily require public employees to perform them.

Electricity is a public service, yet most electric utilities are private. My own village contracts out sanitation services -- seems to work. One could go on and on.

Public employees should understand that in the end, darned few of them are absolutely necessary.

Posted by Steve White 2011-03-03 10:56|| 2011-03-03 10:56|| Front Page Top

#8 The taxpayers are held captive.

That is a fundamental. The taxpayer can not refuse to pay his taxes without facing cohesion and the loss of liberty and property. A public employee can quit at any time. That is why this is so Orwellian. It is Slave State that believes the people/taxpayer exists to serve the interests of the state. It is a Free State that believes that the state exists to serve the interests of the people. This is not just about taxes. It is really no longer about a Tea Party. This is evolving into an Abolitionists Movement to end the philosophy of slavery, aka the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-03-03 11:22|| 2011-03-03 11:22|| Front Page Top

#9 No where near the opposition found in Wisconsin. Why? I've seen nothing that indicates Ohio will stop automatically collecting dues for the union. That's what's really driving them bonkers in Madison.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-03-03 16:08|| 2011-03-03 16:08|| Front Page Top

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