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2011-03-12 Africa North
Pressure mounts on Obama to enforce no-fly zone over Libya
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Posted by Fred 2011-03-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ]  Top

#1 Never thought I'll find myself approving of Obama.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-03-12 03:24||   2011-03-12 03:24|| Front Page Top

#2 gr(o)m:

As always, he says one thing, but actually intends to do quite another. His stated intentions belay a convenient cover for action. In the end he must be seen as a reluctant participant, forced to defend humanity at any cost. Unless I miss my guess, the US will be deeply involved in this matter very soon.
Posted by Besoeker 2011-03-12 04:34||   2011-03-12 04:34|| Front Page Top

#3 I hope you're wrong.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-03-12 04:46||   2011-03-12 04:46|| Front Page Top

#4 We no longer manufacture or produce anything g(r)om. Sadly, conflict has become our focus, our raison d'être.
Posted by Besoeker 2011-03-12 04:55||   2011-03-12 04:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Besoeker, I guess you're feeling down. Look at the good news. Wisconsin. Increasing civic disorder throughout Dar. EUers snarling at each other.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-03-12 06:58||   2011-03-12 06:58|| Front Page Top

#6 Wisconsin brought us G. Mabovitch g(r)om. She did a pretty good job as a stateman. I wish we had her here today.
Posted by Besoeker 2011-03-12 08:37||   2011-03-12 08:37|| Front Page Top

#7 Where are the usual suspects marching with their chant of "No Blood for Oil"*?

* could it be they weren't against the war as much as for the other side? Come on, same maniacal leader without concern of butchering his own people, what's different? Oh, yeah, their man is in power. It was all just about power wasn't it?
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-03-12 09:56||   2011-03-12 09:56|| Front Page Top

#8 P2k:

For some reason they began to taper off at the $4.50 per gallon mark.
Posted by Besoeker 2011-03-12 10:01||   2011-03-12 10:01|| Front Page Top

#9 Have things changed that much from the days of Lawrence of Arabia and before so far as the warring of various tribes in the mideast? Seems like there is always some internecine fight going on.
Posted by JohnQC 2011-03-12 10:20||   2011-03-12 10:20|| Front Page Top

#10 Its too damned late. A No-fly last week, along with arming the rebels and recognizing them as the legit government would have had a huge impact about 10 days ago. But that would require decisive leadership, something missing by that idiot Obama. Now we are stuck with the consequences of inaction: events have likely bypassed our ability to have an effect short of full intervention.
Posted by OldSpook 2011-03-12 10:39||   2011-03-12 10:39|| Front Page Top

#11 At this point a better option is a no Gadaffy zone. We know where his hq is in Tripoli. Just bomb it to pieces. All his money would become unaccessable to him. Let him live among his people for a while as a pauper. Problem solved.
Posted by rammer 2011-03-12 10:44||   2011-03-12 10:44|| Front Page Top

#12 Wisconsin brought us G. Mabovitch. ... I wish we had her here today.

Neh---she screwed on Yom Kippur. Anyways, for you (USA) Dr Grom prescribes Old Hickory.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-03-12 13:07||   2011-03-12 13:07|| Front Page Top

#13 Whahahahaha
Posted by Besoeker 2011-03-12 13:09||   2011-03-12 13:09|| Front Page Top

#14 --No-Fly Zone
Posted by Tom--Pa 2011-03-12 13:30||   2011-03-12 13:30|| Front Page Top

#15 Before we risk our blood and treasure wandering into the middle of yet another domestic brawl in some third world shit hole, what's in it for us?

Call me when we get a drop of Iraqi oil or Balkans gratitude
Posted by regular joe 2011-03-12 13:34||   2011-03-12 13:34|| Front Page Top

#16 Call me when we get a drop of Iraqi oil or Balkans gratitude

"Iraq" happened because it was a valid target and is next door to Iran.

"Balkans" happened because the Clinton administration and the Left said "because we can".

OS is right: the window of opportunity was a week ago. Anything that happens now is merely emotional onanism.
Posted by Pappy 2011-03-12 14:05||   2011-03-12 14:05|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm with Pappy and OS. About 10 days late. The rebels have lost the momentum.
Look for Qadaffi to really put the pedal to the metal now. It'll probably be over before this thing even gets cranked up.
Posted by tu3031 2011-03-12 15:29||   2011-03-12 15:29|| Front Page Top

#18 On March 4, a few hundred protesters came out of the Murad Agha mosque in Tajura, on the outskirts of Tripoli, after Friday prayers chanting anti-regime slogans, only to be dispersed by security forces with rubber bullets and tear gas.

Notice how these rebels get a bug up their butts right after getting a sermon from the local mullah. The idea that these Islamists would be preferable to Gaddafi is a pipe dream, nothing more.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2011-03-12 15:52||   2011-03-12 15:52|| Front Page Top

#19 emotional onanism LOL

that's why you switch hands - to keep it "fresh" :-)
Posted by Frank G 2011-03-12 15:53||   2011-03-12 15:53|| Front Page Top

#20 With the tragedy in Japan I suspect the media focus will forget LIbya giving Obama a pass to continue foot-dragging. Probably a good thing that. Even if we helped, and it saved lives and overturned Khaddafy I suspect his replacement is gonna be unpleasant and ungrateful.

It's a French colony, in the European backyard, that sells oil to Europe. If they won't handle it nobody else should feel any moral urgency.
Posted by rjschwarz 2011-03-12 15:54||   2011-03-12 15:54|| Front Page Top

#21 ...well...technically, it was an Italian colony till the Brits finally swept them and the Afrika Korps out with the Yanks press from the back door of the French colonies from the West [which were attacked and occupied without provocation or real warning by FDR/US to gain that specific strategic positioning]. As the pie chart [scroll down] shows, Italy still get the biggest share of Libyan oil.
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-03-12 16:17||   2011-03-12 16:17|| Front Page Top

#22 With the tragedy in Japan I suspect the media focus will forget LIbya giving Obama a pass to continue foot-dragging.

I don't think the Arabs will, tho. He's on 'strike two'.
Posted by Pappy 2011-03-12 18:07||   2011-03-12 18:07|| Front Page Top

#23 Und tight.
Posted by Herman Phusons1336 2011-03-12 22:49||   2011-03-12 22:49|| Front Page Top

#24 Oy! A small amount of seed on the desert floor.
Posted by Herman Phusons1336 2011-03-12 22:56||   2011-03-12 22:56|| Front Page Top

#25 Whuuuuutt?
Posted by Fi 2011-03-12 23:01||   2011-03-12 23:01|| Front Page Top

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