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2011-04-05 Europe

The west's inexorable and irresistable influence on islam

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Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-04-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Muslims living in Europe still breeding like crazy. I guess it's all a matter of who picks the tab.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-04-05 02:50|| 2011-04-05 02:50|| Front Page Top

#2 ...I believe that's filed under - the more you subsidize the more you get of something.

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-04-05 09:05|| 2011-04-05 09:05|| Front Page Top

#3 It is well established in demographics that when a nation reaches a particular economic plateau unique to that nation, that it suddenly undergoes a precipitous drop in its reproductive rate, usually from 6-8 children per family to about 2.1-2.3.

This happened most recently in Mexico, where they had a typical drop. But it was noted that Mexicans living in the US did not have an equivalent drop.

It was suggested that this was because, while Mexicans in Mexico had reached Mexico's economic plateau, those living in the US have not reached the US economic plateau.

This raises the theory that while Muslims in a host country might keep their own nations birthrates until they have reached their new nation's plateau; those in their home country might reach for virtual parity with their nations popular destination country.

That is, compare countries and their birthrates:

France's (1.96) Muslims are mostly of Algerian (1.75) (down from 7 in 1970) and Moroccan (2.21) (down from 6 in 1970) origin.

In Germany (1.41) most Muslims come from Turkey (2.15) (5.6 in 1970).

In the UK (1.91) from Pakistan (3.17) (down from 7 in 1970).

And in Spain (1.47) from Morocco (2.21) (down from 6 in 1970).

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-04-05 10:30|| 2011-04-05 10:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Much of the decline in the fertility rate in the mideast arab countries is due to the urban housing shortage. Young men can't afford to get an apartment so they don't get married.

Posted by Lord Garth 2011-04-05 10:48|| 2011-04-05 10:48|| Front Page Top

#5 I'll believe it when I see resort hotels and discotheques full of party people alongside empty mosques all along the southern Mediterranean coast from Gibralter to Tel Aviv

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-04-05 12:06|| 2011-04-05 12:06|| Front Page Top

#6 > .I believe that's filed under - the more you subsidize the more you get of something

You forgot the most important bit, subsidy always enhances production at the cost of quality.

Welfare state kids are low quality (from an employment point of view, perfect if you're a marxist looking for a client state)

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-04-05 12:08|| 2011-04-05 12:08|| Front Page Top

#7 This opinion piece is a bit to much, "Don't worry be happy" about the Islamic world. Did not the leaders of Germany and France(?) recently say that multiculturalism had failed? That their Islamic immigrants were not joining with the European culture in any meaningful way?
So what if their birthrates are declining? Mark Steyn argues that demographics is a game of last man standing. Anyway, what could happen is that all of Europe becomes like the Balkans with religious and nationality and ethnic enclaves striving for power and influence that occasionally breaks out in some type of violence up to actual war. See Israel and Gaza.
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Posted by rifle308 2011-04-05 13:22|| 2011-04-05 13:22|| Front Page Top

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