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2011-06-29 Afghanistan

General: Obama Ignored Military's Advice on Afghanistan

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Posted by Steve White 2011-06-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 Allen soon to be known for the handling of this made his reccomendation and Petraeus also backed it.
Politics won.

Objective was having won the southern districts, they wouls sweep by the east to eventually clean out the north.

Allen will draw down unless he sees he is losing grip.

It's a meat grinder.

Posted by newc 2011-06-29 00:26|| 2011-06-29 00:26|| Front Page Top

#2 NO One has ever "won" in Afganistan

Posted by 746 2011-06-29 00:52|| 2011-06-29 00:52|| Front Page Top

#3 Alexander, Saffarids, Arabs, Ghaznids (sp?), Genghis, Timur. That's just from memory.

Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-06-29 01:56|| 2011-06-29 01:56|| Front Page Top

#4 I believe their RoE's were a little different.

Posted by Skidmark 2011-06-29 03:00|| 2011-06-29 03:00|| Front Page Top

#5 My vote for snark of the day to #4.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-06-29 03:41|| 2011-06-29 03:41|| Front Page Top

#6 President Bush (W.) ignored advice of almost all on Iraq...
In that case, with victory as the objective, Bush would 'own' a defeat. In this case, victory is NOT the objective, so Zero won't really own a defeat; he'll own the 'victory' of having withdrawn.

Posted by Glenmore 2011-06-29 07:42|| 2011-06-29 07:42|| Front Page Top

#7 victory is NOT the objective People advocating victory in Afghanistan are obliged to define it first. Since the US never had a clear idea of what victory in Afghanistan might actually consist of (no matter what the US did, Afghanistan would never resemble Kansas), victory could not be, never could have been, the objective.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-06-29 13:10|| 2011-06-29 13:10|| Front Page Top

#8 @#6 Glenmore ... BULLPUCKY
Bush not only listened to his military advisors, he engaged in thoughtful deliberation with many of them before making military and strategic decisions regarding Iraq.

Posted by Mikey Hunt 2011-06-29 13:15|| 2011-06-29 13:15|| Front Page Top

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