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2011-11-07 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad accuses Israel and US as tension over possible strike grows

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Posted by tipper 2011-11-07 11:14|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 I will refrain from commenting what part of the human anatomy the Mullah's Islamic revolution can be compared to.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-11-07 15:12|| 2011-11-07 15:12|| Front Page Top

#2 My comment today at Blackfive about this: there's several ways Israel could hit Iran, and none are mutually exclusive.

Airstrike. Israel has the F15s and F16s, wild-weasel type support, and tankers for at least several runs across the desert. It would be better if the Saudis and Iraqis granted permission for overflights, at least tacitly. However, Iraq has no air force or air defense network to stop the Israelis, or even warn Iran (if they even wanted to do that), and the Saudi AF/ADN may well be all show and no go. And that's before you trip over the power cord.

Further, in the past the rumor was that Israel could overfly Turkey, and perhaps even use Turkish air bases, for an Iran strike. I bet that's off the table now but you never know.

Missile strikes. The Jericho has the legs. They just need accurate targeting information.

Sub-based missile strikes. Those Dolphin class subs are in the Arabian Sea.

Special forces teams. The Israelis could do this. They've certainly had the incentive and time to put together the support and intel they'd need to insert teams into Iran. Israel has had a certain flair to this over the years (e.g., the hit in Dubai), and getting people into place just means being creative. It's a high-risk maneuver since such teams can be captured, paraded through downtown Tehran, etc., but to hit certain targets, and to illuminate targets for the airstrikes, special forces units might be required.

Native dissident teams. The weakest option but plausible if for no other reason than to make noise in certain ways and locations that become useful to the Israelis.

Making things other than nuclear sites go kaboom. As James notes above, take out a gas refinery or two and the Iranians are in trouble. This might not be wise; the average Iranian might not support the government's push for nuclear weapons but they darned sure want to drive their cars.

So the Israelis have several options, each mutually reinforcing, each giving the Iranian defense generals lots of problems.

Posted by Steve White 2011-11-07 15:29|| 2011-11-07 15:29|| Front Page Top

#3 Israel apparently has a drone fleet capable of reaching Iran that was reported in 2010. The Eitan can carry a ton of payload and can reach Iran's nuclear facilities

Read more: What Israel's Eitan UAV Unveil Means for Iran - Popular Mechanics

Posted by JohnQC 2011-11-07 15:52|| 2011-11-07 15:52|| Front Page Top

#4 Thanks John, had forgotten about the drones. Yet another way Israel could reach out and touch the Iranians.

Posted by Steve White 2011-11-07 17:39|| 2011-11-07 17:39|| Front Page Top

#5 This might not be wise; the average Iranian might not support the government's push for nuclear weapons

They do. (2007, pdf)
In the survey, 52 percent of Iranians said they favor their country developing nuclear
weapons, with the same percent saying their world would be safer if Tehran acquires
such arms.

also

The poll also showed that despite sentiment for re-establishing ties with the U.S., 58
percent said they support Iran helping finance Shiite militias in neighboring Iraq, some of
which have battled American forces. Two-thirds said they support providing funds to
Muslim groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, which the U.S. and Israel consider terrorist
organizations.

Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-11-07 19:09|| 2011-11-07 19:09|| Front Page Top

#6 Since Iran has times vowed to retaliate strongly agz the US + Israel for any milstrike from same, sole or in joint, + reloc vital NucProg assets deep underground, IMO Israel might as well mount a mass/large-scale Commando strike [wid suppor Airpower] + PDeniably label it a "LIMITED INVASION".

LR IDAF Airpower can destroy surface targets + near-surface underground levels - the Commandos per se will be the ones to have to physically defeat any Armed Security + then penetrate ASAP AMAP deep into the bottom reaches/spaces of the underground NucPlex, GATHERING INTEL + KILLING, CAPTURING ANY + ALL NUCLEAR TECHNICIANS + SCIENTISTS.

IOW, SUPER "ABBOTTABAD" FOR IRAN, SAVE FOR ALL OF THE US NAVY SEAL TEAMS, ARMY DELTAS, US SPECWAR + ONE OR BOTH AIRBORNE DIVISIONS [82nd, 101st]BEING INVOLVED IN DIRECT ACTION. Prolly also safe to say BRIT + ISRAELI SPECWAR UNITS, + US, ALLIED COVERT INTEL TEAMS.

OTHER > Cold-War era, SOVIET-SIZED DIVISION, ARMY, FRONT COMMANDO-SAPPER FORMATIONS.

A ME WAR, to include Iran-led terror campaigns agz the US + Israeli domestic, international targets, will be all but assured.

AGAIN, WORLD, MILITARY HISTORY > SAYS THE US = US-ALLIED WILL LIKELY HAVE TO FORMALLY INVADE + OCCUPY IRAN.

IRAN EITHER DE FACTO GETS ITS NUKES, OR ELSE IRAN GETS DE FACTO INVADED.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-11-07 19:35|| 2011-11-07 19:35|| Front Page Top

#7 MORE-THAN-A-MAXIMUM SPECFORS, INTEL EFFORT.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-11-07 19:37|| 2011-11-07 19:37|| Front Page Top

#8 E.g. DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > NOT EASY FOR US TO DO OSAMA-STYLE RAID ON PAKISTAN'S NUKE WEAPONS: MUSHARAFF.

BLOGGERS = argue that the US will need potentially 00's or 000's of SpecFors to effec conduct such an operation, be it at MEDIUM TO HIGH SUCCESS.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-11-07 20:47|| 2011-11-07 20:47|| Front Page Top

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