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2014-03-27 Europe

Ukraine's Navy 'Decimated' by Russian Intervention

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Posted by trailing wife 2014-03-27 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 As per DEFEENCE.PK/FORUMS, the Ukraine has lost 54 of 57 naval vessels.

The good news is that these were Soviet-era vessels, whose RussNav successor's most valuable ships are its ocean-going tugs = salvage ships.

[INDIAN AIR FORCE, NAVY here].

This is a real opportunity for the US-West to seriously modernize the Ukrainian navy + armed forces to NATO standard.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2014-03-27 01:16|| 2014-03-27 01:16|| Front Page Top

#2 39 MIG fighters simply turned over to the Russians, indicates a high level of collaboration on the Ukrainian side, to assist in the Russian takeover. Surely the planes could have simply been flown farther west, had there been an intention of putting up some resistance to the takeover.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2014-03-27 07:09|| 2014-03-27 07:09|| Front Page Top

#3 And that is why the defense minister got sacked. It was a simple matter to order the ships to sea, to Odessa. And the aircraft in a short hop to a northern airfield.

Navy hardware was not exactly state of the art, but ships are awfully expensive to replace, and they take time.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-03-27 08:11|| 2014-03-27 08:11|| Front Page Top

#4 They didn't even have a Toulon Plan. It also would have fouled the docks and harbor for years. Scorched earth. Good reason to fire the lot of them.

Posted by Procopius2k 2014-03-27 08:53|| 2014-03-27 08:53|| Front Page Top

#5 P2K Toulon Plan, good history there.

Posted by Dale 2014-03-27 09:58|| 2014-03-27 09:58|| Front Page Top

#6 Ypu forget a little problem: 50% of Ukranins don't want to fight against Russia and they don't wan't to fight it because they are Ukranians only because Stalin decided the border between Soviet Republic of Russia and Soviet Republic of Ukraine would be where it is and independent Ukranian iinherited these borders.

Posted by JFM 2014-03-27 11:11|| 2014-03-27 11:11|| Front Page Top

#7 The good news is that these were Soviet-era vessels, whose RussNav successor's most valuable ships are its ocean-going tugs = salvage ships.

Exactly. It's not like these are truly Ukrainian ships and it's not like the Ukrainians have any idea what to do with them. All they had, including the Crimea, is what the Russians gave them in the first place and now they're crying because the Russians took it back. I'm sorry. I just don't see the problem here.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2014-03-27 11:36|| 2014-03-27 11:36|| Front Page Top

#8 Sound like a little more than "decimated". Sure wish headline writers would use the word correctly.

Posted by Canuckistan sniper 2014-03-27 14:17|| 2014-03-27 14:17|| Front Page Top

#9 It's those layers of editors and fact checkers of the professional journalists. Confusing 'one in every ten' for 'over half'.

Posted by Procopius2k 2014-03-27 18:23|| 2014-03-27 18:23|| Front Page Top

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