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2014-04-28 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Ukraine disbands army unit after fiasco push into east

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Posted by OldSpook 2014-04-28 01:21|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 Pejorative language, and overt bias? No additional incentive required. Thanks OS.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-04-28 08:10|| 2014-04-28 08:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Its pretty obvious the article's author had an axe to grind, so I just grabbed what I thought was the wheat from the chaff, and left you the original in case you wanted to see what my biases are (like the mainstream press I realize that I am human and therefore have inherent biases, unlike them, I'm open about mine).

Posted by OldSpook 2014-04-28 08:14|| 2014-04-28 08:14|| Front Page Top

#3 Well actually, I'm a sucker for stories about ~~gladiators~~ paratroopers.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-04-28 08:17|| 2014-04-28 08:17|| Front Page Top

#4 They went into a situation where they had to choose between shooting civilians and not doing their mission, because that's the way Vlad has been setting things up.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2014-04-28 08:40|| 2014-04-28 08:40|| Front Page Top

#5 Well If the civilians don't want to be Ukrainian, then you're not helping them.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2014-04-28 09:06|| 2014-04-28 09:06|| Front Page Top

#6 At this point, the eastern provinces going to Russia are pretty much a fait accompli. Putin completely out maneuvered Obama and the Clinton/Kerry state department. And yes, this was probably planned and laid in a while back as a contingency operation, Putin just needed the right opportunity. He has been messing with the Ukraine ever since the Orange revolution.

The only thing to be retained is a partial Ukraine republic that's west of a N-S line along the central segment of the Dnepr river. And that will have to be as a NATO affiliated country, with a lot of help from the Poles and Germans.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-04-28 09:50|| 2014-04-28 09:50|| Front Page Top

#7 And yes, this was probably planned and laid in a while back as a contingency operation, Putin just needed the right opportunity.

Yes, complete with feigned outrage from the Champ.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-04-28 09:56|| 2014-04-28 09:56|| Front Page Top

#8 Bright Pebbles: Can I find civilians in your country who don't want to be British-British?

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2014-04-28 10:48|| 2014-04-28 10:48|| Front Page Top

#9 Besoeker, I think those kind of folks in the UK are called "Scots". Or Welsh.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-04-28 17:50|| 2014-04-28 17:50|| Front Page Top

#10 Thing's post and question, but yes. Nearly anyone north of the Midlands falls into that category. Churchill was said to have drank heavily to escape those he was forced to work with in parliament, and stave off the inevitable self-loathing.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-04-28 18:04|| 2014-04-28 18:04|| Front Page Top

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