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2014-10-09 Home Front: WoT

Navy to Commission Amphib Designed for Aviation with No Well Deck

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Posted by tu3031 2014-10-09 14:34|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 Basically a light aircraft carrier.

Posted by Pappy 2014-10-09 14:50|| 2014-10-09 14:50|| Front Page Top

#2 Dumb, just plain dumb. Sorta like a fighter with no guns.....

Posted by USN, Ret. 2014-10-09 15:11|| 2014-10-09 15:11|| Front Page Top

#3 I agree, the plan to have Marines assault a beach using airpower, air drops, or whatever seems somewhat stupid to me. Better to improve those amphibious vehicles to take them up the beach. Less can go wrong at least.

Posted by rjschwarz 2014-10-09 15:20|| 2014-10-09 15:20|| Front Page Top

#4 I dunno RJ, the Marines who landed at Tarawa might argue with you...

Posted by Steve White 2014-10-09 16:18|| 2014-10-09 16:18|| Front Page Top

#5 The landing craft were/are supposed to be on another type of ship. I think America came out of the SeaBase doings. Someone who knows inform me.

Posted by Shipman 2014-10-09 16:25|| 2014-10-09 16:25|| Front Page Top

#6 This raises the question:

Why do that off a ship - and why have Marines at all if you're abandoning the waterfront and the heavy punch Marine Amphib Assault brings?

Fact is: despite the Marines pioneering this in the mid-late 1950's, ever since Operation Pegasus and Khe Sahn, the Army is the master of large scale airborne insertion doctrine (82nd Abn Div, 173rd Sky Soldiers Regt), and is the same for large scale Air Assault (101st Airmobile Div) and numerous company or battalion sized Air Cav or Air Assault elements. There's already prescednet: The 10th Mtn had a BCT (Bde sized element) air assault in off the Eisenhower back in Op Uphold Democracy. And the Army has the Rangers for kicking the door for follow-on forces in via insetion by airborne, air assault/fast-rope and even riverine and small boats.

Someone in the Navy doesnt like the Marines at all, and trying to strange the gator navy? Sounds like Fighter Mafia to me.

For the Marines to have their value, they have to have the heavy forces and be able to bring them in over the water without relying exclusively on wing/rotor assets. This is something the Army cannot do in decent numbers, even though it does have some assault boats mainly in the Guard and Reserve, but nothing that's even remotely scalable to what the Marines can do with an MAU or MAB. We need the Marines, and we need them Amphib/Heavy capable. This is damned foolish.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-10-09 17:29|| 2014-10-09 17:29|| Front Page Top

#7 Someone in the White House really hates the Marines.

Posted by Sgt. D.T. 2014-10-09 19:25|| 2014-10-09 19:25|| Front Page Top

#8 I think America came out of the SeaBase doings.

Pretty much. Though this one doesn't support surface craft.

On seconder thoughts, Ima thinkern light aircraft carrier (drone) and (primarily) JSOC platform.

Posted by Pappy 2014-10-09 20:46|| 2014-10-09 20:46|| Front Page Top

#9 A boatload or two of Marines with AAV 7's and air support will be on the beach faster than even a large fleet of helos or Sea Ospreys could deliver them.

Having watched an exercise at Pendleton/Oceanside a few years ago, I can say that from what I saw (although a training exercise), they can deliver large numbers in a very short order.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2014-10-09 21:22|| 2014-10-09 21:22|| Front Page Top

#10 They forgot the Dirigibles - in the 21st century = age of OWG + SpaceStrike, SpaceDefense, where the Marines + Army RDF/RRFS go ANTI-ICBM, IRBM, MDM + SRBM MISSLE DEFENSE, ETC. MUST GO WID THEM.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2014-10-09 23:43|| 2014-10-09 23:43|| Front Page Top

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