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2014-10-13 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

CDC head criticized for blaming 'protocol breach' as nurse gets Ebola

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Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2014-10-13 00:46|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

Posted by Whulet Shavins7256 2014-10-13 07:18|| 2014-10-13 07:18|| Front Page Top

#2 "Towards of end of the illness, the virus is trying to live and thrive. It's trying to get out of the person's body. It's producing massive amounts of fluid," he said.

At that point, caregivers need to add more layers of protective gear, such as double gloves and a respirator or a full bodysuit. Those kinds of decisions need to be made by managers who are constantly assessing the risk to healthcare workers, Kaufman said.

Fascinating. Does the virus produce the fluids so it can move onto the next host, or is fluid production a consequence of the virus thriving, which coincidentally facilitates transmission? Does the fluid production make the infected person more likely to cough or sneeze?

Posted by Bobby 2014-10-13 07:39|| 2014-10-13 07:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Wait. If she floats, she's a witch, right?

Posted by ed in texas 2014-10-13 08:55|| 2014-10-13 08:55|| Front Page Top

#4 A guy on local talk radio said the other day: I don't know why everyone is excited about this virus from Africa. He will only be in office for another 2 years.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-10-13 10:00|| 2014-10-13 10:00|| Front Page Top

#5 What ethnic race is the nurse... Jesse Jackson gots to know.

Posted by Airandee 2014-10-13 10:01|| 2014-10-13 10:01|| Front Page Top

#6 What this shows is just how easy it is to spread the virus and how training isn't up to speed.

Blaming the victim as the standard dhimocrat response is not helpful. In fact it makes me want to send the stupid department heads to infected isolation wards without protective gear.

Posted by DarthVader 2014-10-13 12:18|| 2014-10-13 12:18|| Front Page Top

#7 Good discussion on Dallas Morning News about Ebola transmission by droplet &/or aerosol, how epidemiologists draw conclusions, and the mysterious / unknown ways Ebola is sometimes transmitted.
Still looking for a discussion / explanation on why PPE for the top-rated CDC Ebola virus labs is so much more protective than the PPE recommended by the CDC for lowly medical care-givers of Ebola patients.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2014-10-13 12:55|| 2014-10-13 12:55|| Front Page Top

#8 the doctor running the CDC is the 1 dentist in 5 that does not recommend fluoride toothpaste.

Posted by Airandee 2014-10-13 13:33|| 2014-10-13 13:33|| Front Page Top

#9 Yesterday MRs. Ret. described the perfect solution to the Ebola situation;

any confirmed cases in the US get flown immediately to Iran, Iraq, Syria, or allowed to enter ISIS-held areas.

Removed the stateside threat and helps the allen lovers find their virgins quicker......

Posted by USN, Ret. 2014-10-13 14:47|| 2014-10-13 14:47|| Front Page Top

#10 Of bigger concern (here) is the mention that this poor lady also has a dog. Spain was pretty abrupt with theirs, that I assume was tested positive.
If swine flu can cross species does this manifest as 'dogbola'? Or is the CDC/MSM sufficiently ignorant of transmission mechanisms that the article is worthy of a dog mention?

Posted by Skidmark 2014-10-13 15:15|| 2014-10-13 15:15|| Front Page Top

#11 That's what is so bad about this CDC statement, they said it without bothering to find out, including if protocol was followed or not.

Just up there delivering one-lines like a stuck up, unfunny Pauly Shore.

Posted by swksvolFF 2014-10-13 15:28|| 2014-10-13 15:28|| Front Page Top

#12 #9 Yesterday MRs. Ret. described the perfect solution to the Ebola situation; any confirmed cases in the US get flown immediately to Iran, Iraq, Syria, or allowed to enter ISIS-held areas.

I also find genius and good counsel in the distaff side.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-10-13 17:31|| 2014-10-13 17:31|| Front Page Top

#13 'Protocol' at Texas Health Presbyterian is being changed in light of nurse contracting Ebola:

1) The buddy system. Ebola caregivers will spot each other as they dress and undress in protective gear to be sure they are following safety protocols. The change suggest the workers had been coming and going from Duncan’s ICU room without such supervision.

2) The type of gear being used to protect workers also is being reviewed and changed with an eye toward finding protective equipment that is easier to use, reducing the risk of infecting the worker as the clothing is removed. Suggests this was not a consideration when the equipment was selected in the first place.

3) Spray workers with bleach or its equivalent to kill the virus on their protective clothing after they leave the patient’s room. Such decontamination is being done in West Africa and has been found to be effective in killing the virus and in protecting the worker. Suggests the spray was not being used at Presbyterian during Duncan’s stay.

4) Reduce the number of hospital workers treating an Ebola patient, which reduces the risk that more people would be infected. Suggests there was no limitation on the number of caregivers treating Duncan.

5) Reduce the number of procedures an Ebola patient receives thus reducing the risk of staff exposure during those procedures. Suggests too many repetitive procedures were done on Duncan, which might have unduly increased staff exposure to the disease.

6) Staff will use respiratory protection inside the Ebola patient’s room when treatments are being used that could increase the risk of viral exposure. Would relate to use of medical procedures, such as intubation and dialysis, which increase staff exposure to the patient’s bodily fluids. Suggests respiratory protection was not used when Duncan was given those life-saving procedures before he died.

7) Assure that staff members are not wearing too much equipment, such as three pairs of protective gloves instead of two. Extra layers can be harder to remove, possibly exposing the employee to the virus. Suggests the staff was not following the protocols for protective gear.

8) Retrain Presbyterian’s staff in infection control to assure rules are being followed carefully. New training standards also will apply to other hospitals so that the U.S. health care system is better prepared for Ebola patients in the future.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2014-10-13 17:35|| 2014-10-13 17:35|| Front Page Top

#14 Louisiana court order rejects ashes of burned belongings of deceased Ebola patient.
If it's so safe, why can't it be disposed of at a Dallas area landfill?
Better yet, ship it to Washington DC & bury it there.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2014-10-13 18:36|| 2014-10-13 18:36|| Front Page Top

#15 Bury, hell, AH.

Deliver half to the front door of the White House (when Bambi is there), half to the CDC head's front door. Tasteful urns optional.

Hilarity ensues.

Posted by Barbara 2014-10-13 18:42|| 2014-10-13 18:42|| Front Page Top

#16 I also find genius and good counsel in the distaff side.
Yep John QC. Not only smart but easy on the eyes. May not know a crescent hammer from a metric ball sleeve, but her other talents more than compensate. (her at work name is Martha Stewart)

Posted by USN, Ret. 2014-10-13 20:32|| 2014-10-13 20:32|| Front Page Top

#17 Metric Crescent Wrenches are very similar to US bolt size ones.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2014-10-13 20:48|| 2014-10-13 20:48|| Front Page Top

#18 Late this afternoon the affected nurse received a plasma transfusion from Dr. Keith Brantley.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2014-10-13 22:43|| 2014-10-13 22:43|| Front Page Top

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