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2015-03-31 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran Is Shaking Down Desperate-Seeming United States
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Posted by Besoeker 2015-03-31 01:19|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top

#1 On the Net or ala Guam locals, I keep telling 'em to pray hard + keep your fingers that the OWG Globalists including POTUS Obama don't miscalculate.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2015-03-31 02:45||   2015-03-31 02:45|| Front Page Top

#2 Only disagreement is that it is the US that is desperate.

It is Obama that is desperate.

He is looking for that big legacy making event and having f***ed up everything he's touched he's running out of time.

OR; he really is deliberately trying to start a world war and bring down the US and the west in general.

I'm cynical enough to consider the latter but optimistic enough to hope for the former. Stupid incompetence can usually be fixed.
Posted by AlanC 2015-03-31 07:43||   2015-03-31 07:43|| Front Page Top

#3 Obean = battered wife.
Posted by gorb 2015-03-31 10:38||   2015-03-31 10:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Here is the way I look at it:

O desperately wants a piece of paper, any "official" paper, consisting of a signed agreement with Iran that signifies that Iran will put some limits of some sort on its nuclear weapons program.

He is negotiating an agreement with a country that makes a model of a US aircraft carrier and films it being blown up, calls the US "the great Satan," repeatedly calling for the total destruction of Israel, and has no intention of honoring any agreement it signs.

O, along with his little dog Kerry will make any concessions and take any humiliation dished out from Iran to obtain this worthless piece of paper.

This negotiation on Iran's part is just front of a many front effort at hegemony and influence in the ME.

Iran is making inroads into Iraq by working with the Iraqi govt to fight ISIS.

Iran has been giving support and aid to the Assad regime in Syria, including air resupply. They also have IRGC ground forces in Syria.

Iran also supports Hezb'Allah in their fight with Israel.

Iran also has a major part in the war in Yemen, using proxies to go after the Bab el Mandeb, a major choke point to the south approach to the Suez Canal.

Iran also looks to the Straits of Hormuz, another choke point for world oil transport, like the Bab el Mandeb.

Iran has been busy.

The Saudis have been very concerned about Iranian moves against them. So for years Saudi has helped to bankroll Pakistani nuclear weapons programs, and they will or are being equipped with nuclear weapons and delivery systems.

So with this face-off between Saudi and its allies, and Iran on the other, with Putin and China on the side with their own agendas for mischief, O's desperate paper could become a death warrant for thousands or millions of people in the ME that could die in a nuclear exchange.

Just like Neville Chamberlain's Peace in Our Time scrap of worthless paper signed by Hitler, O's legacy in his desperate agreement with Iran could become one of death and destruction.

Appeasement never works.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2015-03-31 11:43||   2015-03-31 11:43|| Front Page Top

#5 But, AP, as I asked is O's desperate paper could become a death warrant for thousands or millions of people in the ME that could die in a nuclear exchange.

the truly desired goal? While I can't imagine a mind that would desire that; I also can't imagine a mind so truly inept and lacking of vision that would NOT see what's going on.
Posted by AlanC 2015-03-31 11:52||   2015-03-31 11:52|| Front Page Top

#6 The dynamic isn't so linear. Champ sees a mythic foreign policy triumph that fits his simplistic world view of the US as a "smart" power ( mostly meaning take no risks and wait), and the wicked Iranian ValJar drips ego-honey into his ear about his brilliance, and the drones on the NSC led by the cretin Rice act as the true power tells them. Champ is incapable of reflection about the consequences of all this beyond the limits of his sophomoric antiAmerican world view and racist hatred of his own country (assuming it isn't Kenya).
Posted by NoMoreBS 2015-03-31 13:20||   2015-03-31 13:20|| Front Page Top

#7 Sunshine Policy Redux
Posted by mossomo 2015-03-31 13:22||   2015-03-31 13:22|| Front Page Top

#8 It's hard to imagine someone even as stupid as Obama doesn't understand that the Iranians are playing him like a fiddle. The conclusion I have to draw is that Obama sees himself more as an African than an American and, in fact, hates America and hates Israel so badly that he wants them to be humiliated and defeated.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2015-03-31 13:23||   2015-03-31 13:23|| Front Page Top

#9 I might actually agree with O's policies if it weren't for the nuclear weapons in the mix. I like the idea of Saudi's getting their hands dirty to defend their precious little country.

They will need the experience if fracking continues and oil becomes mostly worthless.
Posted by rjschwarz 2015-03-31 14:15||   2015-03-31 14:15|| Front Page Top

#10 I might actually agree with O's policies

If I were Putin.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-03-31 14:44||   2015-03-31 14:44|| Front Page Top

#11 NoMoreBS at comment #6 has it. O will do anything for his mythical legacy. He is incapable of seeing following scenarios of his handiwork. Remember, his value system was formed by communists and Islamists. He is, what Stalin would call, a Useful Idiot. Look who he glommed onto: The Muslim Brotherhood and the Iranian Mullahs. He is greatly out of his league among ruthless, calculating, lying, Machivellian leaders that have no qualms about murdering their internal opposition or having their proxies do their dirty work.

Begging for something signed on a piece of paper that Iran has NO INTENT of honoring. This is pathological whimpery. The MMs of Iran respect power. They have nothing but contempt for groveling.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2015-03-31 15:11||   2015-03-31 15:11|| Front Page Top

#12 I think it's caused by his lack of a real education, shallow, very shallow.
Posted by Shipman 2015-03-31 16:16||   2015-03-31 16:16|| Front Page Top

#13 You mean Columbia? They didn't educate him? Just passed him on because of Affirmative Action?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2015-03-31 16:27||   2015-03-31 16:27|| Front Page Top

#14 Spicoli theory.
Posted by swksvolFF 2015-03-31 18:24||   2015-03-31 18:24|| Front Page Top

#15 More this AM ...

* FREEREPUBLIC > [Israel National News] ISRAEL, US ALLIES FEEL OBAMA IS ABANDONING THEM FOR IRAN.

* TOPIX > [Times of Israel] IRAN: SAUDI ATTACK ON YEMEN ENDANGERS ENTIRE REGION.

As illustrated by ...

* SAME > [Pro-AQ, Taliban] PAKISTAN MILITANTS PLEDGE SUPPORT TO SAUDI CAMPAIGN IN YEMEN.

* SAME > [Big News Network] EAST AFRICA BRACING FOR FALLOUT FROM YEMEN CONFLICT.

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [Dawn.com] YEMEN CONFLICT: NEUTRALITY NO LONGER AN OPTION FOR PAKISTAN.

Artic reminds me as per Guam Self-Determination - I'm still telling Guam Locals that the political options of status quo, free association, + commonwealth became obsolete on 9-11, + that Guam's only two real choices are Full US Statehood, versus Full Independence from the US MORESO WID ANTI-US US, WORLD OWG GLOBALISTS + ALIGNED UNILATERALLY FORCIBLY CHANGING THE STRATEGIC BALANCE OF POWER IN ASIA-PACIFIC I.E. AS CHINA ANDOR NUCLEAR ISLAM RISES, THE US-N-ONLY-THE-US MUST PULLBACK OR SELF-RETREAT BACK TOWARDS EASTPAC + CONUS.

AFAIC GUAM STATEHOOD/INDEPENDENCE = PAKISTAN TO BE A MUSLIM SUPERPOWER, OR NOT TO BE.

* CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > CONQUERING THE SOUTH CHINA SEA: US DAWDLES AS CHINA EXTENDS ITS MARITIME DOMINATION ["Sphere of Influence"].

* GROONG > US DOING EVERYTHING TO PREVENT [rise of] A NEW RUSSIAN SUPERPOWER - NEWSPAPER | US READY TO SURRENDER SWAY IN ASIA TO CHINA TO KEEP RUSSIA OUT OF THE BIG PICTURE.

[MWC'S SEXY SLINKY KELLY "THE HELL YOU SAY" BUNDY here].

* Also from GROONG > RUSSIA'S RETURN TO LATIN AMERICA TO ERODE US GLOBAL LEADERSHIP | NICARAGUA CANAL TO STRENGTHEN BRICS, UNDERMINE US POSITION IN LATIN AMERICA.

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > PAKISTAN: COUNTRY AWAITS CLEAR STANCE ON TROOPS [PAK Army deployment] TO SAUDI ARABIA.

versus

* DAILY TIMES.PK > ARAB JOINT FORCE TO END [US +] WESTERN MILITARY INTERVENTION IN MIDDLE EAST.

Again, can ME Sunnis accept a Shia Iran, + ONLY Shia Iran, being the OWG Globalist-desired Principal-Leader of any future ME + Persian Gulf "Union(s)", OR MUST BOTH THE GLOBALISTS + US-WEST ACCEPT BOTH SHIA + SUNNI NUKE POWERS???

And then theres NUCLEAR ISRAEL ...
Posted by JosephMendiola 2015-03-31 23:31||   2015-03-31 23:31|| Front Page Top

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