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2017-04-06 Government
New immigration guidelines crack down on computer programmer jobs
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Posted by Skidmark 2017-04-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ]  Top

#1 20 years + late. Better late than never.
Posted by Procopius2k 2017-04-06 07:49||   2017-04-06 07:49|| Front Page Top

#2 Ditto #1. This was a factor in my early retirement. The situation at some of the clients at which I worked was pretty gruesome with the H1-Bs getting trained in the new stuff when the regular employees weren't.
Posted by AlanC 2017-04-06 08:05||   2017-04-06 08:05|| Front Page Top

#3 The key here is quietly ushering the old AlanC's out the door and ensuring new AlanC's are not hired.

*Checking the race and gender box on your employment application is entirely voluntary.
Posted by Besoeker 2017-04-06 08:12||   2017-04-06 08:12|| Front Page Top

#4 
"The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services agency issued a memorandum that makes it harder for companies to bring foreign technology workers to the U.S. using the H-1B visa process."

Once "harder" is changed to "almost impossible," I'll call it progress. Baby steps first, though, I suppose...
Posted by Dave D. 2017-04-06 08:55||   2017-04-06 08:55|| Front Page Top

#5 in theory programming jobs should be easy to export/outsource.

In practise...
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-04-06 09:14||   2017-04-06 09:14|| Front Page Top

#6 BP I watched part of the early outsourcing efforts in the early '80s when DEC set up an Indian subsidiary and tried to use them for programming over the new network. It failed for many reasons but the technology has improved a bit in the last 35 years. /sarc

Anyone else ever carry a TI Silent 700 with the acoustic coupler and therm printer?
Posted by AlanC 2017-04-06 11:22||   2017-04-06 11:22|| Front Page Top

#7 ^^^^ therm = thermo like in thermo-fax

Posted by AlanC 2017-04-06 11:23||   2017-04-06 11:23|| Front Page Top

#8 Thermal printers attached to keyboards served as consoles where I worked. Computers with 32K memory and 16 bit chips...Hell, I remember card punchers. Good times.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2017-04-06 12:56||   2017-04-06 12:56|| Front Page Top

#9 I studied FORTRAN on punched cards.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-04-06 13:02||   2017-04-06 13:02|| Front Page Top

#10 I studied FORTRAN on punched cards. and Cobol and BAL and RPG (80 and 96).

Got my first taste of computers when I wired plug boards for a card sorter.


Gosh I'm old.
Posted by AlanC 2017-04-06 13:31||   2017-04-06 13:31|| Front Page Top

#11 Me, too, Alan C. Me, Too. I vividly recall when hand-held calculators came out.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2017-04-06 15:57||   2017-04-06 15:57|| Front Page Top

#12 If all you have is a hammer, every white guy looks like a nail
Posted by Frank G 2017-04-06 16:34||   2017-04-06 16:34|| Front Page Top

#13 #12 - wrong thread, my bad
Posted by Frank G 2017-04-06 16:37||   2017-04-06 16:37|| Front Page Top

#14 Deacon, ain't that the truth. My, then girlfriend now wife, got a TI something split with her roommate for about $120 for their statistics course, I'd already graduated and my first "calculator" was aluminum and had a leather case that hung on my belt.....the center section slid back and forth.
Posted by AlanC 2017-04-06 17:46||   2017-04-06 17:46|| Front Page Top

#15 high school writing out BASIC, Fortran, and PL/C programs (derivitive of PL/1) on coding forms for someone to punch into cards and send to the University to run on their 360/40 Later using a tty hardcopy terminal where when carrage returned it would SLAM into the side of the printer. Also used those sorters.
Now its all IDE's,and GUIs, and debuggers (what's wrong with 1000 page core-dumps for a SOC7 abend code?)
Posted by CrazyFool 2017-04-06 17:51||   2017-04-06 17:51|| Front Page Top

#16 And don't forget to put a line on your box of cards so you can sort of get them back in order when the cart gets tipped over. Only happened to me once.....that was enough.


Oh, don't forget the burster and decollator they were fun too.
Posted by AlanC 2017-04-06 19:13||   2017-04-06 19:13|| Front Page Top

#17 i worked on dumb terminals in the 70s. mini computer room, DEC Eclipse and Nova. two part wide in the printers, taking the batch tapes to the mainframe. just don't hit cntrl b!
Posted by Menhadden Johnson6615 2017-04-06 19:21||   2017-04-06 19:21|| Front Page Top

#18 Thanks everyone for making me feel young.
Posted by rjschwarz 2017-04-06 20:52||   2017-04-06 20:52|| Front Page Top

#19 I did Fortran punchcards. Ugh
Posted by Frank G 2017-04-06 21:43||   2017-04-06 21:43|| Front Page Top

#20 Y'all are giving me flashbacks. Acoustic couplers, card decks with a stripe, Oh the humanity!
Posted by SteveS 2017-04-06 22:26||   2017-04-06 22:26|| Front Page Top

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