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2018-03-15 Home Front: Culture Wars
Federal Judge Blocks Ohio Ban on Down Syndrome Abortions
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Posted by Besoeker 2018-03-15 08:05|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 Black is a Harvard Law School grad and Democrat appointed by Soetoro. The slaying of the Down Syndrome inconvenient citizens can now continue.

If it could be determined that some Down Syndrome infants may also be gay or lesbian Islamic Dreamers, perhaps Judge Black's decision could be overturned.



Posted by Besoeker 2018-03-15 08:10||   2018-03-15 08:10|| Front Page Top

#2 prenatal screening can provide a risk factor in the first trimester

because the 1992 Supreme Court decision (Planned P vs Casey) since during the first trimester no undue burden may be placed on a pregnant woman (somehow this was because of the 14th amendment).
Posted by lord garth 2018-03-15 08:52||   2018-03-15 08:52|| Front Page Top

#3 somehow this was because of the 14th amendment

Among the many annals of judicial fiction - 1) to get around Article 5 process and 2) to build the power of the judicial aristocracy, one unaccountable to the people.
Posted by Procopius2k 2018-03-15 09:00||   2018-03-15 09:00|| Front Page Top

#4 Eugenics is here. Margaret Sanger must be right by Satan's side, rejoicing.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2018-03-15 11:21||   2018-03-15 11:21|| Front Page Top

#5 If it could be determined that some Down Syndrome infants...

I'm certain a DNA testing program of the parents could provide some insight. Some folks might object to being in a national database though.
Posted by Skidmark 2018-03-15 13:05||   2018-03-15 13:05|| Front Page Top

#6 Look, IMO, if somebody chooses not to raise a Dawn Syndrome child - you gonna force them?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2018-03-15 13:32||   2018-03-15 13:32|| Front Page Top

#7 How do they know how serveire the Downe's syndrome is?
Posted by Deacon Blues 2018-03-15 15:00||   2018-03-15 15:00|| Front Page Top

#8 I have a child with Down Syndrome, and there seem to be some misconceptions here. Let me clear them up:

1) Something like 95% of DS births have nothing, genetically speaking, to do with either the mother or father. It's just something that happens to roughly one out of 900 pregnancies.

2) DS is never "severe" nor "mild." There is a list of serious to trivial physical and cognitive impairments which any given person with DS may - or may not - get. Most individuals fall within the middle: moderate cognitive impairment, some modest medical problems.

3) My own daughter is eight, very healthy (if a bit plump), and has an estimated IQ of 42. She loves princesses, YouTube Kids, dolls, and the color yellow. She can read about 80 words and grasps the basics of math. The other children in her school generally like her, and include her in play. Her life isn't - and probably won't be - unhealthy or unproductive. Under current statistics, her life expectancy is about 55 - longer than Alexander the Great lived.

4) Many questions about "mild" or "sever" DS miss the ethical point: namely, that these are human beings with souls. They have inherent rights. They are, on the whole, highly valued by their families and communities. If you don't believe me, go try to adopt an American baby with Down Syndrome of any race. You will find there is a waiting list.

5) I'm not a highly lovable man. I'm opinionated, pushy, and prone to anger. I don't have a vast number of close friends. My marriage isn't exactly a Hallmark Channel love story. But I know -know- my daughter with Down syndrome loves me. And that gives me a reason for getting up each morning, getting behind the mule, and plowing.

What more do you want in life?
Posted by Secret Master 2018-03-15 15:43||   2018-03-15 15:43|| Front Page Top

#9  I'm not a highly lovable man. I'm opinionated, pushy, and prone to anger. I don't have a vast number of close friends. My marriage isn't exactly a Hallmark Channel love story. But I know -know- my daughter with Down syndrome loves me. And that gives me a reason for getting up each morning, getting behind the mule, and plowing.

This old bastard would be mighty proud to know you Secret Master. Mighty proud. Thanks for sharing your insights. Something going on with my eyes......
Posted by Besoeker 2018-03-15 17:05||   2018-03-15 17:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Well said, Secret Master!
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2018-03-15 18:28||   2018-03-15 18:28|| Front Page Top

#11 re #8 I was leaving a hardware store in my town and saw a man and his daughter across the street. She appeared to have downs and I thought 'poor man'. He waited for her and bent down when she approached him. She reached up and gave him a kiss. I thought 'lucky man'.
Posted by irishrageboy 2018-03-15 19:03||   2018-03-15 19:03|| Front Page Top

#12 
Look, IMO, if somebody chooses not to raise a Dawn Syndrome child - you gonna force them?


Huh. Almost as if there were no other option...
Posted by Rob Crawford 2018-03-15 21:49||   2018-03-15 21:49|| Front Page Top

#13 Look, IMO, if somebody chooses not to raise a Dawn Syndrome child - you gonna force them?

Huh. Almost as if there were no other option...

Indeed. As I mentioned before: a lot of people want these children. Americans are going abroad as far as China and the Ukraine to adopt DS children. And thank you Besoeker. You are too kind.
Posted by Secret Master 2018-03-15 23:06||   2018-03-15 23:06|| Front Page Top

#14 Thanks for sharing your insights. Something going on with my eyes.....

Seems a bit dusty in the room. Fred prolly needs to change the furnace filter or something.
Posted by SteveS 2018-03-15 23:12||   2018-03-15 23:12|| Front Page Top

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