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2018-12-21 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

How to Make Sense of the U.S. Withdrawal From Syria

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Posted by Besoeker 2018-12-21 08:03|| || Front Page|| [11 views ] Top

#1 Translation: keep the troops there so we can play empire and spend money! Don't take away our toys!

Make America safer...sheesh. Has nothing to do with the safety of the US homeland. I mean reread question 2. Has nothing whatsoever to do with America at all.

Not mentioned anywhere for obvious reasons: the American people and what we need. Globalists never think of us because to them we don't exist.

Posted by Herb McCoy 2018-12-21 08:46|| 2018-12-21 08:46|| Front Page Top

#2 If America doesnt stay there getting troops killed for zero American benefit America's enemies will fight each other and weaken themselves.

This is bad because SHUT UP!

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2018-12-21 08:51|| 2018-12-21 08:51|| Front Page Top

#3 I say out. Out. Out.

Posted by M. Murcek 2018-12-21 08:54|| 2018-12-21 08:54|| Front Page Top

#4 Mattis resigning as Pentagon chief after clashes with Trump

Posted by Waldemar Clilet3472 2018-12-21 08:56|| 2018-12-21 08:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Lost of alliances, strategics leverage, and loss of honor. LOSING

Posted by Flusogum Slemble9878 2018-12-21 10:08|| 2018-12-21 10:08|| Front Page Top

#6 The NYTs almost acting as a newspaper: NYTs on Syria draw down. Note Pompeo's remarks.

Posted by JohnQC 2018-12-21 10:27|| 2018-12-21 10:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Trump is abandoning the region. Sorry isolationists, that does not work. It will only embolden Iran and Turkey and the Saudis. Didnt you learn anything when Obama did the same thing in Iraq?

America First? Yes - and that means fighting the wolf BEFORE he comes to your door. Isolationists are fools when it comes to looking long term. You're only delaying intervention, at which time our sons and daughters will pay even more in AMERICAN blood, instead of letting the locals bleed now under our direction.

And just like Obama and Bush, Trump is screwing the Kurds, who have been loyal allies. And this is how we reward them. They could be a stabilizing force in the region but not if you listen to the Klngons and the ivy leaguers in Foggy Bottom.

Not getting the wall built. Running off General Mattis. Letting the Saudis get away with murder. Mueller and the DoJ, Rosenstein and the FBI still unaccountable. Now throwing the region away to the Iranians, just like the State Dept swampies want?

Has Trump lost his way? Is he getting bad advice from the Swamp?

Posted by Glolush Whusotch4899 2018-12-21 11:05|| 2018-12-21 11:05|| Front Page Top

#8 Let's just see how well the Kurds are armed when the Americans leave. And how well they are supplied from the new air base in Iraq.
Way too little info to make judgement. Most of Isis were being killed from air strikes, not special forces.

Posted by jvalentour 2018-12-21 11:48|| 2018-12-21 11:48|| Front Page Top

#9 Ebbavirt Clunk4147 - I have done that. Now, how about a nice cup of apology and STFU from your loud mouth. Got a problem with my point? Address the point. Dont attack my person, take on the ideas - or are you so lacking in reason you cannot do that?

Try taking the positions on, as stated by Gen MAttis because I agree with him, not with keyboard kommandos who preach mindless isolationism but cannot back it up without resorting to personal attacks. Attack Gen Mattis if you dare. Here are his words.

Our troops continue to provide the capabilities needed to prevail in conflict and sustain strong U.S. global influence. One core belief I have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliance and partnerships. While the US remains the indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies. Like you, I have said from the beginning that the armed forces of the United States should not be the policeman of the world. Instead, we must use all tools of American power to provide for the common defense, including providing effective leadership to our alliances.

We must do everything possible to advance an international order that is most conducive to our security, prosperity, and values, and we are strengthened in this effort by the solidarity of our alliances.

That is the reason to not precipitously withdraw from Syria. Gradual phased and building strength for our allies. Not dumping and running as Obama did. Or do you want Trump to mimic Obama in this?

Posted by Glolush Whusotch4899 2018-12-21 13:19|| 2018-12-21 13:19|| Front Page Top

#10 Whichever mod decided this thread was developing a holiday spirit problem, God bless you and Merry Christmas!

Posted by M. Murcek 2018-12-21 15:46|| 2018-12-21 15:46|| Front Page Top

#11 Abandoning the region works just fine. What is the critical interest in Syria? Why is it so important to go to the extreme measure of war? Nobody has ever been able to tell me.

What's the victory condition? What's the prize we get when we win? How do we know we've won?

It's The Swamp that wants us there. Endless war.

"We must do everything possible to advance an international order that is most conducive to our security, prosperity, and values"

This is pure globalism. It is a lie. Our security and prosperity are just fine here in America. Meddling in places that don't concern us just generate more terrorist attacks. Osama Bin Laden got angry and took action because we occupied Saudi Arabia. Let's let these camel and goat fuckers fight it out and sit on the sidelines with popcorn as they waste the blood of their people and their wealth on a pointless war with no prize.

The whole Middle East is not worth a single American's life. Fight me.

Posted by Herb McCoy 2018-12-21 16:54|| 2018-12-21 16:54|| Front Page Top

#12 "that means fighting the wolf BEFORE he comes to your door."

So the Saudis and the Turks and the Syrians are coming to our door? They're going to invade America if we don't stop them now? Do people really think that? That's just a flat out lie.

Posted by Jeresh Slolutch2044 2018-12-21 17:01|| 2018-12-21 17:01|| Front Page Top

#13 The middle east will stop being a killing field when the participants either kill each other in significant numbers, or they get tired of killing each other, or they and their clans suffer enough losses.

A strong and independent energy policy will save this country a lot of grief, as it finally started doing now. You do not want to buy your civilization's life blood from psychopaths.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2018-12-21 17:01|| 2018-12-21 17:01|| Front Page Top

#14 "prevail in conflict and sustain strong U.S. global influence"

He says it right there. "prevail in conflict" is endless war. Strong US global influence is pure globalism. Globalists are evil fuckers who hate us and who freely spend our lives and wealth on war.

Just imagine the nice things we could have in America with the money that's been spent on war since 9/11.

Bring the troops home. The time for war is over.

Posted by Phaigum Elmavimble9218 2018-12-21 17:06|| 2018-12-21 17:06|| Front Page Top

#15 Let's be clear, the idea of nation building in Syria was never the end goal. Something you couldn't anyways in an Islamic country. Without destroying every mosque.

Primary point, 2,000 (?) troops. Not a major footprint. And their killing shit jihadists.

Not forgetting, how did bin Obama's troop withdrawal workout?

So surrender Syria to Russia and Iran. Great idea. Fucking great idea.

Posted by Woodrow 2018-12-21 18:10|| 2018-12-21 18:10|| Front Page Top

#16 We have allies and equipment in Israel and Saudi Arabia, and bases in Iraq and Turkey.

How is withdrawing 2,000 troops from the Syrian shitshow "abandoning the region"?

Posted by Rob Crawford 2018-12-21 20:58|| 2018-12-21 20:58|| Front Page Top

#17

So surrender Syria to Russia and Iran. Great idea. Fucking great idea.

It was already theirs. The Assads have been Russian clients since they were called "Soviets", and the Iranians have been funding every Muslim militia in Lebanon since the '70s.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2018-12-21 21:00|| 2018-12-21 21:00|| Front Page Top

#18 2K is a rounding error. I assume we had more than that in the Syrian theater(s) before we "entered" and will continue to have that after we "withdraw".

The hyperventilating reminds me of the Khashoggi killing. Apparently, I'm meant to be really worked up about this but am having trouble following the approved narrative on why.

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2018-12-21 23:27|| 2018-12-21 23:27|| Front Page Top

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