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Guantanamo detainee not entitled to due process claims, appeals court rules

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Posted by trailing wife 2020-09-02 00:13|| || Front Page|| [11 views ] Top
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#1 Have his Pro-bono lawyers caged with him

Posted by Frank G 2020-09-02 04:24|| 2020-09-02 04:24|| Front Page Top

#2 They're POWs not civilians.

The Red Guard doesn't understand the if and when Insurrection is declared, they become POWs as well. Aiding and abetting comes into play for other members of the 'Resistance' to include judges who try to claim purview.

Posted by Procopius2k 2020-09-02 05:02|| 2020-09-02 05:02|| Front Page Top

#3 ^Unlawful combatants surely?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-09-02 06:16|| 2020-09-02 06:16|| Front Page Top

#4 #2 No, they are not POW's and neither would BLM/Antifa be POW's. They are not members of a uniformed military acting on behalf of any established government, ANYWHERE.

They are a crowd, there being no recognizable units, of renegades and are 'due' at best minimal treatment. At the end of WWII there was a modest but pointed issue with non-uniformed men under arms trying to do mean things to Allied occupying forces.

The solution was along the lines of '1st Sgt, get a detail of the sick lame and lazy and make sure their weapons are loaded. Get that new Lt into town to round up 5 respectable citizens and some kind of holy man, then get these jokers some shovels and get them to digging. Oh, and find a stout wall.'

Posted by Cesare 2020-09-02 07:18|| 2020-09-02 07:18|| Front Page Top

#5 The soldiers of the South were treated as POWs in the insurrection. Uniforms were anything but at times. By your first sentence, the Crown could have considered all those 'rebels' the same. Numerous 'exchanges' were made by both parties in both confrontations and treated the others as POWs in both cases.

Posted by Procopius2k 2020-09-02 09:08|| 2020-09-02 09:08|| Front Page Top

#6 IIRC, under the Geneva Convention, the prisoners at Gitmo are illegal combatants. They can be given a courtmartial, and, if found guilty, can be executed.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2020-09-02 09:50|| 2020-09-02 09:50|| Front Page Top

#7 Bingo. However, our lords and masters in our ~~judiciary~~ aristocracy will not allow it.

Posted by Procopius2k 2020-09-02 10:17|| 2020-09-02 10:17|| Front Page Top

#8 Confederate soldiers were treated as POW's, mostly...see Custer in Northern Virginia vs Col Mosby whom he briefly considered a renegade. Also you might consider the guerilla actions in MO/KS, whose ugly legacy reverberates to this day.

That said, Confederate soldiers were highly participatory members of organized units with distinct chains of command. So participatory that some units voted on every issue, rank down to corporal and even at times which orders would be obeyed.

They acted under the direction of officers appointed by an elected government, even if that government's objective was secession and insurrection.

The communist vermin doing the burning and looting are less than none of those things. They would not secede or set up any alternative to anything whatsoever. They want to outrage, provoke, and destroy, mainly at the behest of their check writing masters. When their utility wears off and the money dries up they will go back to being disaffected revolutionary dishwashers.

The Crown DID treat many, many as purely rebels although in a time which pre-dated any international agreements about the treatment of prisoners. The Crown also had learned their lesson from le Francais in the 7 Years' War and maintained their Indian allies to do what might be difficult to reconcile later back in England. Also see Banastre Tarleton and the separate experience of young Andrew Jackson.

Posted by Cesare 2020-09-02 11:46|| 2020-09-02 11:46|| Front Page Top

#9 Re: Illegal Combatants

Note to self: Court-martial THEN execution. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Our bad!

Posted by SteveS 2020-09-02 15:18|| 2020-09-02 15:18|| Front Page Top

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