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2020-12-02 -Land of the Free

Barr: No evidence of fraud that'd change election outcome

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Posted by 746 2020-12-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ] Top

#1 "There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all, and people don’t like something they want the Department of Justice to come in and ’investigate,’" Barr said.

No, I don't particularly "like" potential criminal activity at the voting booth. Please investigate.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-12-02 03:27|| 2020-12-02 03:27|| Front Page Top

#2 First problem is:
Investigations only uncovered the tip of the iceberg
SEcond problem is: Change or not change the outcome election fraid is still a crime and his duty is to put fraudsters in jail and that includes Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Nacy Pelosi iff needed

Posted by JFM 2020-12-02 03:34|| 2020-12-02 03:34|| Front Page Top

#3 Do you think maybe BARR's Judgement is a little tainted?

Quoting Forbes Mag.
"The year after he left Verizon, he joined the boards of two publicly traded companies, Dominion Resources and Time Warner. From 2009 to 2018, Dominion paid Barr $1.2 million in cash and granted him another $1.1 million in stock awards, according to SEC filings. "

FORBES

Posted by NN2N1 2020-12-02 05:51|| 2020-12-02 05:51|| Front Page Top

#4 There is no voter fraud.
There is no widespread voter fraud.
There is no proof that fraud altered the outcome of the election.

Keep moving the goal posts.
BTW, the entire legitimacy of the government is at stake, that certainly altered the outcome of the election.

Posted by Procopius2k 2020-12-02 06:15|| 2020-12-02 06:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Alternatively: there is no _actionable_ voter fraud--nothing we can prove. The stuff that did the damage was deniable--wouldn't stand up in court.

Think mail-in ballot systems without adequate safeguards--designed that way so that "no vote be uncounted".

Posted by James 2020-12-02 06:55|| https://idontknowbut.blogspot.com 2020-12-02 06:55|| Front Page Top

#6 WTF? Is Barr serious or is this a head fake?

Posted by JohnQC 2020-12-02 10:01|| 2020-12-02 10:01|| Front Page Top

#7 Helen Keller Award 2020

Posted by Mercutio 2020-12-02 10:08|| 2020-12-02 10:08|| Front Page Top

#8 "...people don’t like something..."

So, you are saying people need to like this fraudulent sh!tshow, Punk.

Barr's Professional Bio (A wall streeter.)
William Pelham Barr is an American attorney serving as the 85th United States Attorney General since 2019, previously holding the office from 1991 to 1993. From 1973 to 1977, Barr was employed by the Central Intelligence Agency during his schooling years. He then served as a law clerk to judge Malcolm Richard Wilkey. In the 1980s, Barr worked for the law firm Shaw, Pittman, Potts & Trowbridge, sandwiching a year's work in the White House of the Ronald Reagan administration dealing with legal policies. Before becoming Attorney General in 1991, Barr held numerous other posts within the Department of Justice, including leading the Office of Legal Counsel and serving as Deputy Attorney General. From 1994 to 2008, Barr did corporate legal work for GTE and its successor company Verizon Communications, which made him a multimillionaire. From 2009 to 2018, Barr served on the board of directors for Time Warner.

Roger Stone Accuses Bill Barr of 'Deep State' Connection Following Voter Fraud Dismissal(Link)
[Newsweak] Donald Trump's longtime ally Roger Stone has accused Bill Barr of being a "block for the deep state," after the attorney general shot down claims Trump lost the election due to widespread voter fraud.

In a video posted to right-wing social media site Parler, Stone accused Barr of being implicated in a conspiracy theory that there is a secret layer of government featuring unofficial individuals and advisers that influence key decisions and policies.

Trump has frequently suggested the existence of a "deep state" working against him...

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2020-12-02 10:20|| 2020-12-02 10:20|| Front Page Top

#9 Rudy Giuliani and his associate attorneys refutes Barr saying none of the many election fraud witnesses have NOT been contacted by the FBI about what they witnessed.

Posted by Glerese Elmavise9607 2020-12-02 10:30|| 2020-12-02 10:30|| Front Page Top

#10 ^*correction* Rudy Giuliani and his associate attorneys refutes Barr saying the many election fraud witnesses have NOT been contacted by the FBI about what they witnessed.

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2020-12-02 10:38|| 2020-12-02 10:38|| Front Page Top

#11 R.I.P., Republic. 230 years was a good run.

Now cheating in elections will be the norm.

Anyone wishing to influence public policy or law will be forced to join the Uniparty, kowtow to China, self-flagellate before the Wakandan idiots and make nice to the tech overlords.

Posted by Pholuth Cravirong3905 2020-12-02 11:16|| 2020-12-02 11:16|| Front Page Top

#12 The Justice Department is only one avenue to get this thing fixed, and the slowest. The private lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign and associated teams led by Lin Wood and Sydney Powell, among many others, are perfectly capable of taking their evidence-supported arguments to state and federal supreme courts — and will do so in a timely manner, unlike AG Barr’s people.

And after his announcement, no court will be able to argue that they should wait for DoJ’s actions on the subject.

Posted by trailing wife 2020-12-02 11:52|| 2020-12-02 11:52|| Front Page Top

#13 If Biden beat Obama's 2008 by 11 million votes, then there is at a minimum 11 million fraudulent votes.

Posted by flash91 2020-12-02 12:27|| 2020-12-02 12:27|| Front Page Top

#14 There is only one path to the Supreme Court. With the fraud, which was well done, separating ballots and envelopes, etc., there is no way to identify which votes are fraud and which ones are real. So they have to attack the totals by county.

They have to show that there are more votes than registered voters, more votes that qualified voters, the number of dead voters, the number of 100% votes for one person. For example 135% of the Maricopa county voters voted for Biden, impossible. They have to show the number of votes compared the total population over 18, etc… They will not be able to prove that the bias was for biden, they will be able to prove that fraud existed. They will then have to look at the state and see if removing the total county vote will change the outcome for the state. For example: if the determine that removing Maricopa county would flip the state of AZ then the AZ vote total is unacceptable. They will not be able to flip the state and give it to trump, they have not solid vote to count. Same would play for Nevada, Penn and the rest. The Supreme Court would then be forced to say there is no honest way to determine a winner. They would then be forced to hand it to the Congress for a vote and Trump would win.

Posted by 49 Pan 2020-12-02 12:28|| 2020-12-02 12:28|| Front Page Top

#15

falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-12-02 12:39|| 2020-12-02 12:39|| Front Page Top

#16 ^ I learned that by reading Rantburg.

The application of this principle here is that if fraud can be proven in an election, even if what was proven was not sufficient to affect the outcome, it must be assumed that the entire election was fraudulent and so it cannot be certified.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-12-02 12:42|| 2020-12-02 12:42|| Front Page Top

#17 Barr Comments 'Twisted' By AP, DoJ Says Not Done Probing Election Fraud
The Department of Justice (DOJ) issued a statement on Tuesday in response to the backlash from an article by The Associated Press which quoted Attorney General William Barr saying that “to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”

“Some media outlets have incorrectly reported that the DOJ has concluded its investigation of election fraud and announced an affirmative finding of no fraud in the election. That is not what the Associated Press reported nor what the Attorney General stated,” a DOJ spokesperson said, according to CBS News reporter Catherine Herridge.

“The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations of fraud as expeditiously as possible.”

The Epoch Times reached out to the DOJ to confirm the statement but did not immediately receive a response.

In its headline, The Associated Press twisted Barr’s comment to suggest that the attorney general has passed final judgment on whether fraud occurred in the 2020 election. “Disputing [President Donald] Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud,” the wire service reported.

Posted by Ulavirong Omeager2818 2020-12-02 13:30|| 2020-12-02 13:30|| Front Page Top

#18 ^Spoilsport.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-12-02 13:36|| 2020-12-02 13:36|| Front Page Top

#19 Deep Stater Barr is the twisted one. At least with Eric Holder you knew what you were getting or what to expect.

Posted by Clem 2020-12-02 14:01|| 2020-12-02 14:01|| Front Page Top

#20 See also: DOJ issues clarification—investigation into voter fraud is NOT over

A far cry from what I heard CBS reporting last night about how Barr had debunked Trump's "wild claims" of fraud. That's right. They said "wild claims". I thought that was rather unprofessional of them to use words like "wild" which makes the report more like an opinion piece than straight news reporting, especially since CBS claims to be a reputable news organization.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-12-02 14:04|| 2020-12-02 14:04|| Front Page Top

#21 Good finds, Ulavirong Omeager2818 and Abu Uluque.

Posted by trailing wife 2020-12-02 14:57|| 2020-12-02 14:57|| Front Page Top

#22 Typical mainstream leftist progressive media, DISTORTING the news into disinformation. "TO DATE" is a pretty strong qualifier, since most of the investigations have yet to report findings.

Posted by Theager Borgia1057 2020-12-02 15:11|| 2020-12-02 15:11|| Front Page Top

#23 Theager, they did not just distort the news, they flat out lied. From the link I posted above:

A DOJ spokesperson had said that “Some media outlets have incorrectly reported that the Department has concluded its investigation of election fraud and announced an affirmative finding of no fraud in the election. That is not what the Associated Press reported nor what the Attorney General stated. The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations of fraud as expeditiously as possible."

The DOJ spokesperson uses the term "incorrectly reported". That too, is being more than generous.

I heard them say last night on the CBS Evening News that Barr, one of Trumps' most loyal cabinet members, had debunked Trump's "wild claims" of fraud.

That's a lie. So, the question becomes, why do they feel the need to lie?

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-12-02 15:59|| 2020-12-02 15:59|| Front Page Top

#24 I guess the Russiagate investigation is "not over", either, eh, Billy Boy [Barr]?

Posted by Clem 2020-12-02 16:35|| 2020-12-02 16:35|| Front Page Top

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