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2021-08-26 Afghanistan
Military expert says General Scott Miller gets the lion's share of blame for Afghanistan debacle
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Posted by Skidmark 2021-08-26 00:00|| || Front Page|| [12 views ]  Top

#1 Success has a thousand fathers, Failure is an orphan

Roggio said generals have the duty to stand up to potentially flawed ideas but claimed some are 'climbers' and have 'largely become political'


Some?
Posted by Procopius2k 2021-08-26 07:18||   2021-08-26 07:18|| Front Page Top

#2 Roggio said generals have the duty to stand up to potentially flawed ideas but claimed some are 'climbers' and have 'largely become political'

Given that the military leadership challenged Trump at every turn - but rolled over and played dead for Biden* - this is kind of a 'No shiat, Sherlock' moment.

Mike

*I don't give a rat's behind what leaks are coming out that the military 'pushed back' and warned Biden that this would happen - if they'd have treated his plan the same way they treated Trump's, we wouldn't be in this up to our necks.
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2021-08-26 07:30||   2021-08-26 07:30|| Front Page Top

#3 Blaming General Miller is short-sighted. He could only have done what he was told to do.

More from the FDD: 'Sarah Carlson - The Evacuation of Libya.'

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Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-26 07:31||   2021-08-26 07:31|| Front Page Top

#4 /\ Talks about Open Source Center.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-26 07:55||   2021-08-26 07:55|| Front Page Top

#5 The Daily Mail has fairly good coverage. Our MSM is worthless. Worse, they are aiding and abetting a criminal organization.
Posted by JohnQC 2021-08-26 09:23||   2021-08-26 09:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Miller was the USFOR-A Commander...without planners and tasked to close the bases...more or less a tactical guy with a withering staff being told to do more with less. Not defending him but good grief.

The SECDEF and CENTCOM Commander have the planners and political weight and are responsible for the strategic duties...where the catastrophe happened. This is on Austin and Biden.
Posted by Tennessee 2021-08-26 09:57||   2021-08-26 09:57|| Front Page Top

#7 Possible suicide bombing at the Kabul airport.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-26 10:03||   2021-08-26 10:03|| Front Page Top

#8 Ref #6: Spot on. CENTCOM has OGA reos on senior level staff. Nothing gets out of there without OGA check off.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-26 10:10||   2021-08-26 10:10|| Front Page Top

#9 This is a political fuckup and not military. The commanders do what they're told. Sure, some can be self-serving but ultimately they're soldiers, not independent campaigners like the tribals there.

Any blame rests on the entire process... the Doha talks, that Khalilzad fellow, Biden, his Secretary Llyod Token and the CIA buffoons trusting in ANSDF intel and ISI goodwill.

If the military was really let loose on Afghanistan, sans 'hearts and minds' bullshit and ROEs dictated out of some EU thinktanks, American forces could cull every militant minded sasquatch and put an end to any Pakistani ambitions for AFG.
Posted by Dron66046 2021-08-26 10:18||   2021-08-26 10:18|| Front Page Top

#10 #7 Possible suicide bombing at the Kabul airport.
Posted by Besoeker

Looks like we lost the race against time...it was, unfortunately, inevitable. The initiative has shifted to ISIS in that AO...cementing the fact that this is a major symbolic disaster as well on the eve of the 20th anniversary of 9/11.

And in those 20 years we haven't even mustered the political will to try and convict the 9/11 masterminds (KSM et al) in in the military commissions in GTMO.
Posted by Tennessee 2021-08-26 10:51||   2021-08-26 10:51|| Front Page Top

#11 If Miller suggested closing the airbase he should be placed alongside Custer.

If Miller was ordered to do so he should have resigned his commission to make a point of how stupid the move was. The fact that Mackenzie went along with it shows we have a problem in our high ranks.
Posted by ruprecht 2021-08-26 11:34||   2021-08-26 11:34|| Front Page Top

#12 "If Trump had only ordered mandatory Drag Queen Shows 3 years ago, we'd be 3 years ahead of our current decision making!"
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-08-26 12:22||   2021-08-26 12:22|| Front Page Top

#13 At this point it is important to prevent documentation from being lost.

Plenty of time to investigate this. Beginning in a few weeks.
Posted by Lord Garth 2021-08-26 14:06||   2021-08-26 14:06|| Front Page Top

#14 Now, let's see...where is the buck supposed to stop?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2021-08-26 14:11||   2021-08-26 14:11|| Front Page Top

#15 This debacle goes right to the top. So far it has been blamed on everyone else.
Posted by JohnQC 2021-08-26 14:46||   2021-08-26 14:46|| Front Page Top

#16 /\ ...leaders of the Democratic Party like Nancy Pelosi.
Posted by magpie 2021-08-26 17:43||   2021-08-26 17:43|| Front Page Top

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