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2021-11-16 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Your daily modified-limited-hangout... vaccines don't block transmission?

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Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-11-16 13:44|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top
File under: Tin Hat Dictators, Presidents for Life, & Kleptocrats

#1 It doesn't seem to be working the way I'd hoped. Click through to see the video from Bill Grates.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-11-16 13:47|| 2021-11-16 13:47|| Front Page Top

#2 I keep reading that the majority of the hospitalized COVID cases were vaccinated. So it doesn't "decrease the severity" of infections either.

Essentially all the claims for the vaccines are bushwa.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-11-16 14:00|| 2021-11-16 14:00|| Front Page Top

#3 New code for billing unvaccinated. Why not a billing code for male, female, transgender or gender fluid.

Posted by Dale 2021-11-16 14:19|| 2021-11-16 14:19|| Front Page Top

#4 It doesn't seem to be working the way I'd hoped.

It wasn’t you, Snowy Thing. It was another version of a moderator needing to open the thing in Edit, then close without making any changes.

Now fixed.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-11-16 14:42|| 2021-11-16 14:42|| Front Page Top

#5 I keep reading that the majority of the hospitalized COVID cases were vaccinated.

Before the vaccine most of the hospitalizations were among the elderly and co-morbid. But somewhere around 80% of the elderly have now been vaccinated, and most of the hospitalizations are not among that cohort, suggesting that most of the time the vaccine works well enough to achieve the primary purpose of ending the massacre of our old and sick.

It would be interesting to know what common factors hold among those for whom the vaccine is not working well enough: certain co-morbidities, low vitamin D or other nutrients, excess or lack of certain intestinal flora, something genetic? It doesn’t appear to be race, or we’d be hearing screaming about it. Because the majority of the population has now been vaccinated and/or infected, and most of them have not thereafter needed to be hospitalized. Nor needed hospitalization before, for that matter.

At the moment one of my foster daughters is sick with the thing, following her baby’s infection, and also a 65 year old friend who was sick enough to go to the emergency room, but not sick enough to need a long hospitalization.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-11-16 15:00|| 2021-11-16 15:00|| Front Page Top

a 65 year old friend

Was this friend eligible for monoclonal antibody treatment? Timing on this is always of the essence.

Posted by Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 2021-11-16 15:10|| 2021-11-16 15:10|| Front Page Top

#7 I keep reading that the majority of hospitalized COVID-19 patients are not vaccinated.

Posted by Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 2021-11-16 15:11|| 2021-11-16 15:11|| Front Page Top

#8 Also, we don't have accurate numbers for how many died with as opposed to of COVID.

It's isn't the cough that carries you off.
It's the coffin they carry you off in.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-11-16 15:11|| 2021-11-16 15:11|| Front Page Top

most of the hospitalizations are not among that cohort

I'm on the mailing list for an assisted living/memory care/skilled nursing facility with a lot of residents. They are nearly 100% vaccinated and have been that way since approximately March 2021. Almost no COVID-19 hospitalizations in that cohort since then. They send out email notices of their Covid status weekly. Their staff are not nearly as well vaccinated, and some of the staff flips positive every couple weeks, which means some kind of limitation to outside visitors for some of the units for a while. Even that is much rarer than it was before March 2020. Residents are mostly all getting boosters now.

Posted by Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 2021-11-16 15:15|| 2021-11-16 15:15|| Front Page Top

#10 powerlingblog had some numbers on this the other day

Vaccines do work. They don't work perfectly or even as well as we thought they would work.

Nonetheless, as bubba implies, everyone who is above, say 30 should get them unless they have already contracted the disease or for some other special reason. Above 50 and you should also get the booster.

Below 30 is where the CDC says yes and other people say 'maybe'.

Posted by lord garth 2021-11-16 15:24|| 2021-11-16 15:24|| Front Page Top

#11 Was this friend eligible for monoclonal antibody treatment? Timing on this is always of the essence.

I don’t know, Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 — she finally texted Sunday to say she won’t be going back to work just yet, but is decidedly miserable, which suggests she didn’t get it. She tested positive ten days ago, went to the ER on the 11th.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-11-16 15:28|| 2021-11-16 15:28|| Front Page Top

#12 ...The CDC is a Lysenko science compromised bureaucracy. The only cure is to gut it.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-11-16 15:29|| 2021-11-16 15:29|| Front Page Top

#13 Pfizer pill, already approved in parts of Europe, is being evaluated by the FDA.

If approved and it works, it will be cheaper than the monoclonal treatment and be just as effective.

In fact for very bad cases, the pill plus the monoclonal treatment could work.

Posted by lord garth 2021-11-16 16:08|| 2021-11-16 16:08|| Front Page Top

#14 Just a quick postscript: I don't think this is newsworthy in and of itself, but in who's saying it this time.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-11-16 18:30|| 2021-11-16 18:30|| Front Page Top

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