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2022-02-13 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Russia says US submarine violated its waters in far east

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Posted by Frank G 2022-02-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top
File under: Commies

#1 Sam Faddis on this yesterday:

For weeks now the Biden administration, hopelessly compromised and looking at political annihilation in the coming midterm elections, has flirted with disaster. Desperate to regain credibility and to counter the obvious impotence of the man in the White House, Joe’s mandarins have made all sorts of vaguely threatening pronouncements regarding Ukraine and shoved forward a wide range of U.S. military assets into Eastern Europe.

The obvious danger of stumbling into war has been disregarded. Men who have never heard a shot fired in anger, never put their lives on the line, and have no earthly idea what strategy they are pursuing have put the whole world in danger. We may be about to pay the price for that incompetence.

...This is the way wars start. All it will take will be one exchange of fire. An aircraft will go down. A ship will be torpedoed. Lives will be lost. The clamor to hit back will begin. The men who run the world’s biggest defense contractors will join the push. The prospect of endless profits from another conflict will be too great to resist.

War is an ugly, brutal thing. It ought not to be entered into lightly or without sober reflection. The price for imprudence and incompetence will not be paid by the men and women behind desks in DC. It will be paid, as always, by the young men and women of our small towns, farms and blue-collar neighborhoods.

We are adrift in perilous waters with a senile empty suit of a President who sold his soul to Communist China long ago at the helm. He is surrounded by spineless incompetents who now seek to pose as men of strength and project power. There could hardly be a more dangerous combination.

We will do well to come through this without catastrophe. We stand on the precipice of war.

Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-02-13 04:38|| 2022-02-13 04:38|| Front Page Top

#2 The clamor to hit back will begin.

And clamor it will likely remain.

Posted by Skidmark 2022-02-13 10:44|| 2022-02-13 10:44|| Front Page Top

#3 unspecified "corresponding means" to make the vessel leave.

Like dropping a hand grenade over the side to announce they found you?

Posted by SteveS 2022-02-13 11:39|| 2022-02-13 11:39|| Front Page Top

#4 Russia says US submarine violated its waters in far east

We put seamen in the Russian waters?

OK, I'll go to the corner now.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-02-13 11:53|| 2022-02-13 11:53|| Front Page Top

#5 Scenes from the Hunt FOr Red October and the famous lines "These things will get out of control...and Russians don't take a dump without a plan son" come to mind. If it was the USS Dallas that would be too much...

Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-02-13 12:30|| 2022-02-13 12:30|| Front Page Top

#6 I know a little about a number of topics, but absolutely nothing about naval tactics, techniques, and procedures.

Question:

What are the chances a Russian ship could detect a US submarine ?

What are the chances this alleged incident is a Russian fabrication ?

Posted by Besoeker 2022-02-13 12:45|| 2022-02-13 12:45|| Front Page Top

#7 So what.

Posted by Woodrow 2022-02-13 16:40|| 2022-02-13 16:40|| Front Page Top

#8 Seems that a US Virginia-class sub (a fast attack boat) was shadowing a Russian naval exercise when it was detected by Marshal Shaposhnikov, an Udaloy-class anti-submarine frigate. When the Russians encouraged the sub to surface, it deployed a decoy and left the area.

What are the chances a Russian ship could detect a US submarine ?
The Virginia class should be pretty quiet as long as sneakiness is the order of the day and no one is distracted running Pronoun Drills.
We shouldn't be too surprised a sub-hunter found a sub. It would certainly show up if you drove over it with active sonar.

Lately, the USN has been experiencing ship-handling issues. My theory of the crime, based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever, is the sub had issues maintaining periscope depth and breached the surface which reduced its stealthiness.

We put seamen in the Russian waters?
The Ghost of Pappy smiles.

Posted by SteveS 2022-02-13 23:19|| 2022-02-13 23:19|| Front Page Top

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