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2022-03-19 -Great Cultural Revolution
NYT, 2015: Azov Battalion is ‘openly neo-Nazi’ NYT, 2022: Azov Battalion is ‘far-right’. Want to shed ‘Nazi’ status? Join US side
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Posted by Jomotch Ulotle6167 2022-03-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [12 views ]  Top

#1 What the...???

I thought the Ukrainian Nazis were Putin's disinformation? And that anyone who tried to publicize the concept was a Putinbot and a troll. What changed?
Posted by Omomolet Phutch9064 2022-03-19 02:42||   2022-03-19 02:42|| Front Page Top

#2 So sez the "far left" NY Times.
Posted by badanov 2022-03-19 06:58||   2022-03-19 06:58|| Front Page Top

#3 No no no no. There are no more Nazis don't you see? Only the Germans under Hitler could have been evil enough to be Nazis. They stopped existing as soon as the Jews were salvaged out of their predicament. In fact, the ones who went to work for American and European armament firms and banks too were just 'misguided people'. And Jews which got richer and became world citizens invested in the same imperialist mores of the Nazi. A paradox, but history is full of them. Jews selling out Jews to Nazis was not unheard of then, so why not today? A 'jewish' president, supported by another 'jew' philanthropist, commanding battallions of self professed Nazis sporting swastikas. All fighting to expand the control of the same german bankers further and further. How can it be true?!

So close your eyes, forget it all. Adopt the belief that these Ukranian paramilitary outfits are just using the militaria of a bye gone era to play 'dress up'. And go to sleep. Tell this to the orphaned children in the Donbass and they might throw a rock at you though.
Posted by Cthulhu of Ryleh 2022-03-19 07:01||   2022-03-19 07:01|| Front Page Top

#4 Get a grip. In its best times the Azov Batallion had about 2500 members. Today, probably much less.

Neo-Nazis garnered about 2% of the votes in the last Ukrainian elections. Russia has a much bigger Nazi problem. Plus nukes.
Posted by European Conservative 2022-03-19 08:28||   2022-03-19 08:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Get a grip.

Pretty much the exact opposite of what's happening to many people over the Ukraine thing.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-19 08:39||   2022-03-19 08:39|| Front Page Top

#6  This doesn't fit the GOP strategy of siding with Russia because a democrat President opposes Russian attacks on her weaker neighbors.

In US zeitgeist, a liberal US citizen is more evil than anything any outsider does.
Posted by Omaing Stalag1261 2022-03-19 09:47||   2022-03-19 09:47|| Front Page Top

#7 The NYT is so full of hype. No truth, just emotional hype. The times is the most dangerous group in the room, stirring emotion, half truths, and all agenda all the time.
Posted by 49 Pan 2022-03-19 11:10||   2022-03-19 11:10|| Front Page Top

#8 Nazis in the Donbas have killed thousands of people in the last 8 years. People in the West haven't been paying attention but the real war started in 2014 after the coup. Azov and others are the shock troops in that war
Posted by Elmoluck Whater3839 2022-03-19 11:32||   2022-03-19 11:32|| Front Page Top

#9 "Nazis!" cried the Russian trolls!
Posted by Frank G 2022-03-19 11:39||   2022-03-19 11:39|| Front Page Top

#10 The New York Times are Russian trolls?
Posted by Fat Bob Splat5597 2022-03-19 11:43||   2022-03-19 11:43|| Front Page Top

#11 
Posted by Frank G 2022-03-19 12:05||   2022-03-19 12:05|| Front Page Top

#12 /\ Frank....dimmit! You OWE me a keyboard. My wife is not going to like the koffee stains on the carpet either.

I will not suffer alone! Wider dissemination was immediately initiated.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-19 12:24||   2022-03-19 12:24|| Front Page Top

#13 

#11 😀
Posted by Dron66046 2022-03-19 13:05||   2022-03-19 13:05|| Front Page Top

#14 More "Russian trolls", at the Telegraph of London
Inside Azov, the neo-Nazi brigade killing Russian generals and playing a PR game in the Ukraine war
Posted by Jeremble Fillmore4221 2022-03-19 14:23||   2022-03-19 14:23|| Front Page Top

#15 Azov battalion is just like QAnon. The mere mention of it causes some people to utterly lose their minds.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-19 14:25||   2022-03-19 14:25|| Front Page Top

#16 #14 No they aren't. Azov has many friends across Western media. That Telegraph article in #13 describes Azov's "Its well-oiled publicity machine." Definitely working in high gear at this website
Posted by Angererong Omeath5766 2022-03-19 14:34||   2022-03-19 14:34|| Front Page Top

#17 
Posted by Frank G 2022-03-19 14:57||   2022-03-19 14:57|| Front Page Top

#18 This site is crawling with Azov trolls. The amount of denial is comical
Posted by Gravising Cleaper3098 2022-03-19 15:41||   2022-03-19 15:41|| Front Page Top

#19 ^ a veritable Hive of villainy and scum because I don't buy your trolling?
*snort*

Azov Battalion: it's a Nazi army, a Dessert Topping, annnd a Floor Wax!
Posted by Frank G 2022-03-19 15:45||   2022-03-19 15:45|| Front Page Top

#20 You start to wonder how the real nazis ever managed to lose the war.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-19 16:01||   2022-03-19 16:01|| Front Page Top

#21 Azov was founded by Andriy Biletsky, an ultra-nationalist political figure who had had run-ins with the law and had been involved in various groups that toyed with Nazi symbols.

A native Russian speaker born in the predominantly Russian-speaking city of Kharkiv, Mr Biletsky refused to identify himself as a neo-Nazi instead preferring to call himself a Ukrainian nationalist - but some of his public statements speak for themselves.

In his arguably most quoted interview Biletsky spoke about Ukraine’s “historic mission in this century to lead white peoples of the world on their last Crusade against Jew-led Untermensch”.

In recent years Azov has produced perfect content for Russian state television, putting a face to the Kremlin’s claims about the rise of the far-right in Ukraine, where recent presidents and prime ministers have all been regular centrist politicians.

Azov fighters in the east happily rolled back their sleeves to show Nazi tattoos to foreign correspondents while Mr Biletsky’s team were announcing the creation of local militia forces to deal with issues in big cities.
Posted by Shamp Bonaparte2207 2022-03-19 17:32||   2022-03-19 17:32|| Front Page Top

#22 Hallelujah! I've seen the light, comrades, and I for one am now profoundly shocked (x2) that among a people you brutalised and starved and brutalised some more and left prostrate for your Nazi allies to brutalise before you brutalised the survivors yet again... and now again... that among such a people might lurk a few ungrateful monsters who harbor an unhealthy grudge against you... well, shit, it just don't get much more shocking than that! It's a veritable donkeyful of electric eels! Snore.
Posted by Snakes Dribble1728 2022-03-19 21:10||   2022-03-19 21:10|| Front Page Top

#23 What Snakes Dribble1728 said so picturesquely.

Also this from the Daily Beast earlier in the month:

On [state TV show The Evening With Vladimir Soloviev] Soloviev’s show, political scientist and professor of history Elena Ponomareva asserted: “We’re fighting not only against NATO, but also against the Nazi European Union.”

Two days earlier, on a state TV show 60 Minutes, journalist Andrei Sidorchik rode the concept all the way down the hill when he exclaimed: “Joe Biden is a Nazi. The U.S. congressmen⁠—Democrat and Republican⁠—are Nazis... German chancellor is a Nazi... EU leaders are Nazis... because their sanctions are attempting to preserve neo-Nazism in Ukraine.”

Posted by trailing wife 2022-03-19 21:36||   2022-03-19 21:36|| Front Page Top

#24 Sidorchik sounds like Antifa.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-03-19 23:52||   2022-03-19 23:52|| Front Page Top

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