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2022-07-30 Economy
The Flaw In Biden's Electric Vehicle Charger Plan
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Posted by Besoeker 2022-07-30 03:29|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 See also: Connecticut grounding its entire fleet of electric buses after one of them catches fire (and apparently lithium fires are just about impossible to put out.)

https://www.nhregister.com/metro/article/Battery-causes-CT-electric-bus-to-burst-into-17324601.php
Posted by Tom 2022-07-30 07:13||   2022-07-30 07:13|| Front Page Top

#2 Lithium-ion batteries burning are considered a 'Class B' fire (as the batteries contain liquid electrolytes that provide a conductive pathway), so a standard 'ABC' fire extinguisher should be used.

Since lithium-ion batteries aren’t made with metallic lithium, a Class D dry powder extinguisher would not be effective.

Even so, with the larger batteries, it takes a LOT of extinguishing chemicals to put them out. Your tiny kitchen extinguisher wouldn't do it.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2022-07-30 08:31||   2022-07-30 08:31|| Front Page Top

#3 

Son is a Metro-Atlanta area firefighter.
He has handled a dozen or so EV fires.

If I understood him correctly. The general process is to Surround, Contain, protect the surround area and watch it burn itself into a Hazmat Environment Mess.

YAA December 19, 2021 - Justin Fischer = "EV battery fires require A LOT more water to extinguish. ... Some fires have needed 30,000 gallons of water to extinguish. ... Once the fire appears fully extinguished, there’s a chance it could still flare up, even days later. Towing services and junkyards are advised to park damaged electric vehicles at least 50 feet from other vehicles in the yard. "

An EV with a typical 60 kWh battery pack, will take 60 hours 2.5 DAYS to fully recharge and still only have a 200 to 320 miles driving range.

The amount of energy used to produce, power and recharge an EV, is something like 3.5 times more than needed to make and use a gallon gas. Which refills in under 10 mins and drives 300+ miles per tank fill.

Plus, we have not discussed Environment issues of mining Rare Earths and production for the EV battery and disposal at end of the currently seen 5-6 year lifecycle.
Posted by NN2N1 2022-07-30 09:02||   2022-07-30 09:02|| Front Page Top

#4 TANSTAAFL
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-07-30 09:10||   2022-07-30 09:10|| Front Page Top

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