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2023-06-30 Science & Technology
Steve Kirsch During PA State Senate Hearing : "We Can't Find an Autistic Kid Who Was Unvaccinated" Within Amish Community (VIDEO)
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Posted by Besoeker 2023-06-30 02:45|| || Front Page|| [14 views ]  Top

#1 Kirsch suggested that vaccinated children were more likely to contract diseases like measles and mumps compared to those unvaccinated.

Those of us who are old enough to remember measles outbreaks running through the school population and now see such events not occurring may have a different opinion.
Posted by Procopius2k 2023-06-30 07:37||   2023-06-30 07:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Like dams and bridges, vaccines are something this country used to do well but now not so much.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-06-30 07:54||   2023-06-30 07:54|| Front Page Top

#3 I'll assume the measles risk over the side effects (e.g., autism) of any of the multiple sludge vaccines rammed into children. Hepatitis B vaccines two days after birth...really? WTF?

How many vaccines did we get as kids compared to today? /rhet
Posted by DooDahMan 2023-06-30 08:34||   2023-06-30 08:34|| Front Page Top

#4 I remember polio, smallpox, TB, etc.
Delivered by the school nurse in elementary school.

How did they do it where you're from?
Posted by Skidmark 2023-06-30 08:46||   2023-06-30 08:46|| Front Page Top

#5 Polio, a cube of sugar at elementary school.
Posted by bman 2023-06-30 11:08||   2023-06-30 11:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Let’s cite researchers funded by Big Pharma to debunk this again. Have Jake Tapper do it condescendingly. That’s what I like best.
Posted by Super Hose 2023-06-30 11:32||   2023-06-30 11:32|| Front Page Top

#7 Those of us who are old enough to remember measles outbreaks running through the school population and now see such events not occurring may have a different opinion.

The 1962 Agatha Christie mystery The Mirror Crack'd from Side to Side tells of an actress driven to murder because a fan unintentionally infected her with German measles (rubella) when she was pregnant with her only child, causing the child be born severely disabled.

The purpose of the rubella vaccine is not to protect the patient from a mild childhood disease, but to reduce the chance of infecting a nearby pregnant woman, destroying the possibility that her child will be born normal and able. Most childhood vaccines prevent diseases that cause deafness, blindness, mental retardation, sterility, nerve and muscle damage (polio), and so forth in a visible number of those who fall ill, while the vaccines themselves are a health risk for a much smaller number.

If there were a vaccine that prevented autism from developing in the womb I’d have taken it in a flash if it would have prevented autism from denying trailing daughter #1 the ability to live independently, let alone have the life and career her intelligence, work ethic, talents, and loving heart led us all to predict before her condition became apparent at seventeen. It turns out being high functioning is no guarantee of being able to function as an adult, when unexpected co-morbidities begin manifesting.

Separately, back in the early ‘90s a friend suddenly lost her child to meningitis. The kid caught a small cold somewhere, not even bad enough to stay home from school, and three days later was dead. So when the trailing daughters’ university demanded they be vaccinated against meningitis before moving into the dorm, I was pleased to comply — sudden death (or merely epilepsy, deafness, and/or permanent brain damage) sweeping through the students without warning is not my idea of a good time.

Even the Covid vaccines, poorly executed though they were, in some population subgroups are as much a health benefit as for other population subgroups they are a serious health risk.
Posted by trailing wife 2023-06-30 12:37||   2023-06-30 12:37|| Front Page Top

#8 ^This. My mother contracted rubella when she was pregnant with my brother, causing him to be born deaf and moderately autistic. Nice guy; I love him a lot. But he still lives with Mom and, when she passes, he will live with me.

My sympathies TW. As you know I have a daughter with Down syndrome, and taking care of her has completely reshaped my life. But as they say: God doesn't call the equiped. He equips the called.
Posted by Secret Master  2023-06-30 13:24||   2023-06-30 13:24|| Front Page Top

#9 I suspect we'll get to go through it all over again. You don't allow 8 million plus people into the country without screening (that is what Ellis Island was for) and not expect 'old' diseases to suddenly make a reappearance.
Posted by Procopius2k 2023-06-30 16:43||   2023-06-30 16:43|| Front Page Top

#10 expect 'old' diseases to suddenly make a reappearance.

With the anti-vaxxers and illegals, California had and is having a hell of a time with a measles outbreak in schools. And it is drug resistant now.

Yay
Posted by DarthVader 2023-06-30 16:59||   2023-06-30 16:59|| Front Page Top

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