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2023-12-15 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Putin: 'Odessa is a Russian city.' What could be the future plan of the SVO
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Posted by badanov 2023-12-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [24 views ]  Top

#1 Odessa is a tad older than Russia. It was the Lithuania port town of Kotsiubijiv in the 1400's and then the Ottomans renamed it to 'Hacibey' (or 'Khadjibey') when they took over the area during the 1500's.

It has also been researched as a possible site of the ancient Greek settlement of Histria from the 6th century BC.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2023-12-15 08:43||   2023-12-15 08:43|| Front Page Top

#2 ^Odessa IS Jewish city!
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-12-15 08:46||   2023-12-15 08:46|| Front Page Top

#3 I've never classified someone's chosen religion as a race of people or as a governing body. The racial majority of folks within a group might adhere to one religion or another, but that doesn't necessarily determine that group's ethnicity.

For instance Mooselimbs might believe that they're a 'race', but there are SO many belief sub-sectors within it that you're almost looking at the human species as a whole when it comes to ethnicity.

Plus, they all hate each other.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2023-12-15 10:12||   2023-12-15 10:12|| Front Page Top

#4 You get to choose your religion - or lack thereof. You do not get to choose your race - except on US gummint questionnaires.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-12-15 10:15||   2023-12-15 10:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Seizing Odessa might be a totally genius plan, but the ginormous fly in the ointment is getting there. Looking at a map, your two choices are an opposed amphibious landing or going overland. An amphibious assault is both challenging and expensive. Likewise, fighting your way across Ukraine. We have seen the problems both sides have operating on the other side of the Dnieper. Getting from Kherson to Odessa would involve multiple river crossings.

Prediction: the final border when the fighting stops will be along the Dniepro - essentially the south-eastern part of Ukraine. In the north, the border may be along one of major tributaries, but it will be something defensible.
Posted by SteveS 2023-12-15 10:29||   2023-12-15 10:29|| Front Page Top

#6 As I recall the Russians attacked the Germans WW11 successfully crossing the Dnieper.
Posted by Dale 2023-12-15 16:41||   2023-12-15 16:41|| Front Page Top

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