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2022-10-18 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Normal person: I think it would be good if everyone didn't die in a nuclear holocaust. Crazy person: That means you love Putin. NP: No I just think it's a good idea to try to prevent mass horrific death. CP: How much is Putin paying you to say that?

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Normal person: I think it would be good if everyone didn’t die in a nuclear holocaust.

Crazy person: That means you love Vladimir Putin.

Normal person: No I just think it would be a good idea to try to prevent the horrific death of literally everyone.

Crazy person: How much is the Kremlin paying you to say that?

Fucking lunatics.

Resisting nuclear armageddon is the least partisan position that anyone could possibly have. The least one-sided. The least “campist”. It’s just being a normal human organism with the most normal human impulse you could possibly come up with. It’s absolutely insane that anyone tries to spin it otherwise.

A society where opposing nuclear armageddon is treated as freakish and evil is the most backwards and insane society imaginable. Seriously, try to imagine anything crazier and more backwards than that. A society where everyone walks and drives backwards? That’s less crazy and backwards. A society where the dogs own the people? That’s less crazy and backwards.

This is it. This is peak crazy. A thinking species which regards as outrageous heresy any opposition to brinkmanship that can cause its extinction cannot get any more crazy. It’s turned as far away from sanity as any thinking creature could possibly be.

The only way you can believe Russia is threatening with nuclear weapons in a way the US is not would be to think the US has a No First Use nuclear policy. Which would of course be false and silly.

When one side of the new cold war wants multipolarity where world power is much less centralized and the other side wants unipolar planetary domination where the entire world obeys Washington DC and its puppet masters, it’s not hard to figure out which side is the aggressor.

Be completely dismissive of those who object to your criticisms of western imperial aggression. The one and only reason they expect their dopey opinions to be taken seriously is because their position has been artificially normalized by copious amounts of propaganda. That’s it.

The one and only thing making your worldview look strange and suspicious and the worldview of empire apologists look normal is the fact that we’ve all been swimming in empire propaganda our entire lives. It’s got nothing to do with the factuality or validity of anyone’s position. In reality, focusing one’s criticisms on the most dangerous impulses of the most powerful and destructive power structure on earth is the normal thing to do. It’s not strange and suspicious when you do it, it’s strange and suspicious that everyone else does not.

Posted by Spike the Hairy6811 2022-10-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [14 views ] Top

#1 Good grief.

Posted by European Conservative 2022-10-18 06:00|| 2022-10-18 06:00|| Front Page Top

#2 I suspect her meds are playing a role here.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-18 06:06|| 2022-10-18 06:06|| Front Page Top

#3 Of course she’s right.

We’ve reached the surreal point where merely pointing out the lunacy of dragging us to the edge of nuclear war — over territories where the US has no vital interest whatsoever — triggers a barrage of inane insults. It happens constantly, at this site and across Twitter and the rest of the garbage media.

All of which are stoked by the most ridiculous bullshit. As one of the CIA’s own Cold War-era propaganda experts recently observed about the bullshit spewed by the US and UK establishments, “it is titanic and it is out of control.”

CAN THE FLOOD OF LIES ABOUT UKRAINE AND RUSSIA BE STAUNCHED?
12 October 2022 by Larry Johnson

“As someone who worked first hand on the CIA’s Afghanistan propaganda campaign in 1985-86, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on the scale and scope of the current propaganda campaign intended to whip up support in the West for Ukraine and galvanize international outrage against Russia–it is titanic and it is out of control.”

Posted by Chaim 2022-10-18 06:34|| 2022-10-18 06:34|| Front Page Top

#4 The new Karens. Growing up in the 50s and 60s. Open air nuke testing. ICBM that were liquid fueled meaning you can't get caught fueling when you have incoming. Cuban Missile Crisis. The entire Cold War.

Keep pushing Fear, Uncertainty and Dread. We have lived with it for over half our lives. The sky is falling!! Ho hum.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-10-18 06:47|| 2022-10-18 06:47|| Front Page Top

#5 What's crazy?
1. Germany/Europe would sacrifice it's economy for Ukraine.
2. Some one would blow up Nord Stream 2.
3. Europe would let their people freeze this winter at the behest of the CIA.

No, that's not crazy.

Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2022-10-18 06:53|| 2022-10-18 06:53|| Front Page Top

#6 The Germans sacrificed their economy and warmth on the alter of Green.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-10-18 07:09|| 2022-10-18 07:09|| Front Page Top

#7 The Germans sacrificed their economy and warmth on the alter of Green.

With shady statistics, they could claim they were near zero C02 emissions as energy sourced from foreign sources didn't count in their official statistics. It was a Ponzi scheme all the way down, and now they are paying for it.

Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-18 07:13|| 2022-10-18 07:13|| Front Page Top

#8 Cuban Missile Crisis.

Funny you should bring that up. What’s happening now is almost the mirror image of October 1962, with the roles reversed.

We have the Monroe Doctrine, and told the Russians to GTFO of our backyard. The Russians have the exact same principle: GTFO and away from Crimea. What we’re doing is no different from the a hostile foreign power installing a puppet regime in Mexico or Canada and waging war on our citizens for 8 years. Of course we wouldn’t tolerate that for a second.

Kennedy wisely de-escalated and reached a fair and durable settlement.

Biden and his Freakshow are escalating, and Oahu g us to the brink. #Unfuckingbelievable

Posted by Chaim 2022-10-18 07:19|| 2022-10-18 07:19|| Front Page Top

#9 * Biden and his Freakshow are pushing us to the brink

Posted by Chaim 2022-10-18 07:21|| 2022-10-18 07:21|| Front Page Top

#10 Like I said none of these people has a clue what a nuclear weapon will do

I guess the new world order crowd thinks that a good nuclear war will thin the herd down enough to make it easy to subjugate

We need to tap the brakes on this nuclear war stuff

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2022-10-18 07:46|| 2022-10-18 07:46|| Front Page Top

#11 Amen SPOD. Amen.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-18 09:34|| 2022-10-18 09:34|| Front Page Top

#12 Nothing to see here. Move along now. Ukraine’s victory is assured. Russians are retreating.

Oh wait… What’s this: Italy has suddenly ordered all their citizens OUT of Ukraine as soon as possible and cancel any plans of returning to Ukraine.

Not just Italy.

Oct 16: “CHINA urges its citizens to LEAVE UKRAINE and surrounding areas immediately”

Oct 17: “ISRAELI EMBASSY IN KYIV URGES ITS CITIZENS TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY”

Newsmax (13 hours ago): “A growing number of countries are urging their citizens to leave Ukraine. China, Serbia, Iran, Belarus, Egypt, India, Kazakhstan and the other ‘stans have all suddenly ordered all their citizens out of Ukraine.”

What do these nations know that our shitty propaganda garbage media isn’t telling Americans and Brits?

Ya think maybe, just possibly, the Russians are finally getting serious and that we’ve been fed a mountain of lies and BS about the course of the war?

Posted by Chaim 2022-10-18 09:38|| 2022-10-18 09:38|| Front Page Top

#13 Amen SPOD. Amen.

Ditto Besoeker.

The cabal responsible for the coup is trying to recreate the 60's when their ilk were on top.

I'm praying nightly again. I lived through all that shit once and that was enough. That given the rest of the world can help put the brakes on by reining in Vlad and Xi and anyone else that thinks they have a right to just lay claim to any neighboring territory.

Posted by AlanC 2022-10-18 10:01|| 2022-10-18 10:01|| Front Page Top

#14 The weapons technology for nuclear weapons is light years beyond anything we had in the 60s

The warheads are more compact
Guidance systems are much better
A nuclear war is an extinction level event
These idiots will have our beautiful planet look like Mars or Venus

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2022-10-18 16:30|| 2022-10-18 16:30|| Front Page Top

#15 a hostile foreign power installing a puppet regime in Mexico or Canada

Cartels and Trudeau don't count?

Posted by Skidmark 2022-10-18 16:38|| 2022-10-18 16:38|| Front Page Top

#16 ^ those were installed by the hostile domestic power here at home

Posted by Billy B 2022-10-18 16:45|| 2022-10-18 16:45|| Front Page Top

#17 I remember how shook up I was at four years of age when I was able to understand that fallout from an atomic explosion would poison the air that I had to breath and cause hideous diseases like cancer. Yes, I was traumatized. I thought I could relax when Ronald Reagan won the Cold War for us. I voted for him. It was scary but I believed in his strategy of standing up to the Soviets. I trusted him.

I don't trust Joe Biden. I'm quite certain that he needs to be impeached. Clearly, he is not the least bit interested in a peaceful negotiated settlement to this war. He still thinks he can win, whatever that means. I remember how Reagan would meet with Gorbachev and try to reason with him. I don't see Biden trying to reason with anything except an ice cream cone.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-10-18 18:04|| 2022-10-18 18:04|| Front Page Top

#18 Joe Biden is not in charge.

The scary thing is that we no longer have the horizontal contacts that would eliminate misunderstandings before they escalate to nuclear war.

Focus on the comments (halfway through this video) of nuclear expert Ted Postol, MIT Professor of Technology and International Security

Not encouraging

Posted by Hey Joe 2022-10-18 19:07|| 2022-10-18 19:07|| Front Page Top