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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Unwinnable War in Afghanistan - Funny
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/18/2009 12:50 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Drat... video pulled :(
Posted by: abu do you love || 09/18/2009 22:29 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Cold War roots of Yemen conflict
Posted by: tipper || 09/18/2009 10:48 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Arabs been killing each other thousands of years before Marx was born.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/18/2009 11:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Yemen might be another Somalia in the making.
Posted by: phil_b || 09/18/2009 20:59 Comments || Top||

#3  HMMMMM, HMMMMM, wehellnow lessirree

* BLACK SEA/CASPIAN
* ARABIAN PENINSULA
* CHINA-INDIA

Now comes PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > GURKHAS TO DEMAND INDEPENDENCE [from INDJUH = INDIA].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/18/2009 23:28 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Kill Grandma or Terrorists Win
Posted by: tipper || 09/18/2009 10:01 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Does He Lie? - Ooh, he likes to dance a little "Sidestep"
WASHINGTON -- You lie? No. Barack Obama doesn't lie. He's too subtle for that. He ... well, you judge.

Herewith three examples within a single speech -- the now-famous Obama-Wilson "you lie" address to Congress on health care -- of Obama's relationship with truth.

(1) "I will not sign (a plan)," he solemnly pledged, "if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future. Period."

Wonderful. The president seems serious, veto-ready, determined to hold the line. Until, notes Harvard economist Greg Mankiw, you get to Obama's very next sentence: "And to prove that I'm serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don't materialize."

This apparent strengthening of the pledge brilliantly and deceptively undermines it. What Obama suggests is that his plan will require mandatory spending cuts if the current rosy projections prove false. But there's absolutely nothing automatic about such cuts. Every Congress is sovereign. Nothing enacted today will force a future Congress or a future president to make any cuts in any spending, mandatory or not.

Just look at the supposedly automatic Medicare cuts contained in the Sustainable Growth Rate formula enacted to constrain out-of-control Medicare spending. Every year since 2003, Congress has waived the cuts.

Mankiw puts the Obama bait-and-switch in plain language. "Translation: I promise to fix the problem. And if I do not fix the problem now, I will fix it later, or some future president will, after I am long gone. I promise he will. Absolutely, positively, I am committed to that future president fixing the problem. You can count on it. Would I lie to you?"

(2) And then there's the famous contretemps about health insurance for illegal immigrants. Obama said they would not be insured. Well, all four committee-passed bills in Congress allow illegal immigrants to take part in the proposed Health Insurance Exchange.

But more importantly, the problem is that laws are not self-enforcing. If they were, we'd have no illegal immigrants because, as I understand it, it's illegal to enter the United States illegally. We have laws against burglary, too. But we also provide for cops and jails on the assumption that most burglars don't voluntarily turn themselves in.

When Republicans proposed requiring proof of citizenship, the Democrats twice voted that down in committee. Indeed, after Rep. Joe Wilson's "You lie!" shout-out, the Senate Finance Committee revisited the language of its bill to prevent illegal immigrants from getting any federal benefits. Why would the Finance Committee fix a nonexistent problem?

(3) Obama said he would largely solve the insoluble cost problem of Obamacare by eliminating "hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud" from Medicare.

That's not a lie. That's not even deception. That's just an insult to our intelligence. Waste, fraud and abuse -- Meg Greenfield once called this phrase "the dread big three" -- as the all-purpose piggy bank for budget savings has been a joke since Jimmy Carter first used it in 1977.

Moreover, if half a trillion is waiting to be squeezed painlessly out of Medicare, why wait for health care reform? If, as Obama repeatedly insists, Medicare overspending is breaking the budget, why hasn't he gotten started on the painless billions in "waste and fraud" savings?

Obama doesn't lie. He merely elides, gliding from one dubious assertion to another. This has been the story throughout his whole health care crusade. Its original premise was that our current financial crisis was rooted in neglect of three things -- energy, education and health care. That transparent attempt to exploit Emanuel's Law -- a crisis is a terrible thing to waste -- failed for health care because no one is stupid enough to believe that the 2008 financial collapse was caused by a lack of universal health care.

So on to the next gambit: selling health care reform as a cure for the deficit. When that was exploded by the Congressional Budget Office's demonstration of staggering Obamacare deficits, Obama tried a new tack: selling his plan as revenue-neutral insurance reform -- until the revenue neutrality is exposed as phony future cuts and chimerical waste and fraud.

Obama doesn't lie. He implies, he misdirects, he misleads -- so fluidly and incessantly that he risks transmuting eloquence into mere slickness.

Slickness wasn't fatal to "Slick Willie" Clinton because he possessed a winning, near irresistible charm. Obama's persona is more cool, distant, imperial. The charming scoundrel can get away with endless deception; the righteous redeemer cannot.


Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/18/2009 03:53 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  POTUS never lies, but TOTUS sure does.
Posted by: DMFD || 09/18/2009 6:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Obama has lied from the day he was born
Posted by: Frank G || 09/18/2009 7:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Obama does worse than lies. He buries people with bullshit.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/18/2009 7:55 Comments || Top||

#4  I guess it depends on what your definition of "is" "liar" is.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/18/2009 8:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Like I've said before.

Zero is a clone of Brown. Every single thing they say is a lie.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/18/2009 8:50 Comments || Top||

#6  If he can't dazzle us with brilliance he tries to baffle us with bullshit.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/18/2009 10:05 Comments || Top||

#7  And then there's the famous contretemps about health insurance for illegal immigrants.

He didn't lie. He's planning on legalizing them.
Posted by: gorb || 09/18/2009 10:22 Comments || Top||

#8  ACORN=SEIU
Sep 17, 2009

ACORN=SEIU
Same IP Adress 65.17.240.136
Same Physical Address 1024 Elysian Fields, New Orleans

Posted by: 3dc || 09/18/2009 10:54 Comments || Top||

#9  The democrats wanted their Vietnam, and they got My Lie.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/18/2009 11:02 Comments || Top||

#10  “Obama doesn't lie. He implies, he misdirects, he misleads -- so fluidly and incessantly that he risks transmuting eloquence into mere slickness.”

To witness any of President Obama’s recent Healthcare rallies one might get the impression that he is still campaigning for election. Many in the media are fond of saying that he is out “selling healthcare reform”. Let’s be clear…he is not selling anything. It’s not simply because he doesn’t yet have an actual product to sell. It’s because, as throughout his career, he is “marketing a message”. And yes people…the message is in fact…Barak Obama. Don’t be confused. This is not buying two soda pops for the price of one. This is “Coke is it”. This is why he puts so much effort into distancing himself from pesky details while simultaneously associating himself with the lofty ideals. This also explains why those that have bought into his message often assume those that criticize his policies must be motivated by personal animus. And this strategy clearly illustrates why Obama’s personal approval ratings coincide so closely with his policy approval. President Obama is the living embodiment of the phrase “the medium is the message”. He is not simply the illusionist, as some would have us believe. Obama, in fact, is the illusion.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 09/18/2009 12:10 Comments || Top||

#11  Does Bambi lie?

Only on days that end in "y."

And that includes his every use of the words "a," "and," and "the."
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/18/2009 13:48 Comments || Top||

#12  D *** NG IT, 'CUZ ALL HE WANTS TO DO IS DANCE, AND MAKE ROMANCE....FEEL THE BEAT...

Wehell, ever since MEL BROOKS' "YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN" was shown on late nite TV, I amma been a'hummin' "PUTTING ON THE RITZ" everywhere -ALL "RITZ", ALL THE TIME, "LIKE GARY COOPER"!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/18/2009 18:45 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
What Alters Our Genes
Posted by: tipper || 09/18/2009 19:29 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Kammerer's name became synonymous with science fraud. But in a fascinating new analysis, biologist Alexander Vargas of the University of Chile reaches a far different conclusion: that Kammerer was in fact the discover of a phenome-non called epigenetics, in which genes are silenced by—and here I'm simplifying, but only a little—experience. "Rather than being a fraud," says Vargas, "Kammerer could be the true discoverer of non-Mendelian, epigenetic inheritance.

An example of why scientists should never dismiss data because it is inconvenient to current theory. Something that is rife in climate science.
Posted by: phil_b || 09/18/2009 20:20 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Is Dan Rather At Helm Of Little Green Footballs?
Posted by: tipper || 09/18/2009 19:59 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More
Obergruppenkommander Charles Speaks: Hot Air Racist, Fascist; Must Be Purged
Posted by: tipper || 09/18/2009 20:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Coincidentally - I removed LGF from my bookmarks list after 7 years only the day before yesterday. I'm afraid Charles no longer has the spark.

The great are fallen.
Posted by: LeighG || 09/18/2009 23:28 Comments || Top||



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Fri 2009-09-18
  Colo. Man in Suspected NYC Subway Plot Admits Al Qaeda Ties
Thu 2009-09-17
  Noordin Mohammad Top: Dead Again!
Wed 2009-09-16
  IDF nabs Park Hotel attack terrorist
Tue 2009-09-15
  Baghdad Green Zone attacked during Biden visit
Mon 2009-09-14
  U.S. Special Forces Kill 2 Al Qaeda, Capture 2 in Somalia
Sun 2009-09-13
  Taliban in Swat Surrender?
Sat 2009-09-12
  Pakistan arrests Muslim Khan
Fri 2009-09-11
  Hariri quits
Thu 2009-09-10
  Drone attack leaves 12 dead in N. Waziristan
Wed 2009-09-09
  Supply for Nato stops again after row with Afghans
Tue 2009-09-08
  Two foreigners among seven dead in NWA drone strikes
Mon 2009-09-07
  33 militants killed in Khyber Agency
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  'Taliban' kidnap NYT reporter in Afghanistan
Sat 2009-09-05
  Yemen suspends offensive on northern rebels
Fri 2009-09-04
  Andhra Pradesh CM killed in chopper crash


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