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Rafsanjani to al-Sadr: Fight America, the "Wounded Monster"
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-Short Attention Span Theater-
L.A. Airport Outage Snarls Air Traffic
A brief failure of a power line shut down electrical service to the Los Angeles International Airport tower and disrupted air traffic Monday morning, authorities said. About 100 flights were affected, either having to hold in the air, circle or stay on the ground at their departure points for a time, Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Donn Walker said. A 34.5 kilovolt supply line went out for 10 seconds at 9:38 a.m., city Department of Water and Power spokeswoman Carol Tucker said. "The cause is blamed on equipment failure," she said. Despite the immediate restoration of the power supply, the effect on the tower lasted longer. All radar, radios and telephones — essentially everything that controllers use to communicate with aircraft and other control facilities — was hit by the outage, Walker said. Shortly after 11 a.m., Walker reported that most power was back on but enough equipment remained out that instrument approaches would not be possible. Good weather made instrument approaches unnecessary, he said.
Are power failures at airport control towers an unusual occurrance? Shouldn’t they have some sort of UPS system? Particularly in LAX ???
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/12/2004 4:07:58 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If power is restored in a timely fashion, will Richard Clarke credit the Clinton administration's laser-like focus on back-up power generation at LAX?
Posted by: Tibor || 04/12/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||

#2  For a facility as large as a control tower, you would really want a standby diesel generator of the correct size that would automatically switch on when there was no power available at the bus. Note the bus has to be automatically isolated from the normal power system as the diesel will not be aligned with respect to phases.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/12/2004 16:57 Comments || Top||

#3  My guess is that the control tower would have both battery and generator (natural gas or diesel) back-ups. I will also bet that some maintenance supervisor is getting his ass kicked as we write. In a two words: "absolutely inexcusible."
Posted by: GK || 04/12/2004 18:14 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm sure LAX has back-up generators, but the power wasn't out long enough for them to kick in. I've worked in enough Air Force units that had their own back-up generators to know that 10 seconds is too short to initiate the start-up sequence. Power would have had to have been out for a minimum of 30 seconds for the generators to start. Once they do trip, it takes another 20-50 seconds for the systems to come online, for them to "settle in" and become stable, and for all the other tweaks and twangs to happen before the power from the generators reaches the "customer". During that time, there are supposed to be backup systems (usually battery packs) that supply temporary power to the most critical components. Those should have kicked in immediately. The big questions that really need to be answered are did the emergency systems kick in as they should, were the right systems identified as critical, and have the bosses been diligent enough in the past about keeping too much garbage from being tacked on to drain the power too quickly. We'll probably never know the answers to those questions, but I HOPE the Airport Administrator gets an ear-full!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/12/2004 19:00 Comments || Top||

#5  I cannot believe that the tower with its comm links does not have a standby generator and inverter system that floats on a battery bank, like almost every telco switch in the country. I am sure that enroute traffic control centers have that. Loss of comm means everyone enroute goes on backup procedures for maintaining flight level and when to shoot the approach. In the LA TRACON this would be an ABSOLUTE nightmare with many planes enroute and being sequenced for approach. This also could be a terrorist weapon, but so can anything else.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/12/2004 19:15 Comments || Top||

#6  I was resident engineer in the construction of San Diego's 911 center - as you all have pointed out, these backup systems are standard and kick in automatically til the diesel generator can power up and stabilize. Someone screwed the pooch big time on this
Posted by: Frank G || 04/12/2004 20:09 Comments || Top||


Man Bets Life Savings on Roulette - And Wins
A man who put his life savings on the line Sunday took home $270,600 in a double-or-nothing roulette wheel gamble at the Plaza Hotel and Casino (search).
Wow, the power of faith. I remember hearing about this guy last week and thought about what a fool to risk it all!
Ashley Revell, 32, a London man who said he liquidated all his possessions to fund his leap of faith, put $135,300 on red at the roulette table as a film crew videotaped his wager. Wearing a rented tuxedo, he brought cash to the casino, said Rich Rose, the Plaza’s president of sports and special events. After trading the cash for chips and engaging in some low stakes gambling as a warm-up, Revell placed it all on red. A crowd, including his mother and father, watched as the roulette wheel was spun. The ball bobbled into various slots before landing on Red 7. His winnings were paid at the table, Rose said. The cash is now nestled in a safety deposit box at the hotel. Messages left for Revell by The Associated Press were not immediately returned. Rose said Revell claimed he came to the hotel "with nothing but the clothes on his back."

The idea for the bet was hatched earlier this year during a casual conversation between Revell and a friend, Rose said. The two explored their options and enlisted a film crew to record the event for possible future release. Revell received a bottle of champagne and a suite from the hotel. The hotel had him sign the roulette felt and will put it on display in the lobby, Rose said.
Posted by: CobraCommander || 04/12/2004 4:15:48 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He's on a hot streak! I advise him to do it again!!
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/12/2004 16:56 Comments || Top||

#2  The man is a fugitive from the laws of probability: roulette is the worst bet in Vegas.
Posted by: Mike || 04/12/2004 17:05 Comments || Top||

#3  If I bet Red it would land on Black.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 04/12/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#4  From a maths point of view, this is the best way to play roulette - all your money on one bet.
You get roughly 50-50 odds of winning (slightly less because of the '0').

Takes guts to do it with 80 grand though.
Posted by: Lux || 04/12/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Shhhhhsssssh.
CarryBack 9th Race at Aqueduck.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/12/2004 17:22 Comments || Top||

#6  When you got lottsa money you got lottsa freinds
When the money run out,
funny how the freindships end
Posted by: Mikkee Roonee || 04/12/2004 18:00 Comments || Top||

#7  A camera was watching? Scoff...an obvious PR scam. $270,000 for nationwide advertising? Good deal for the casino - but bad deal for all of the familes that just moved into the backseat of their cars.
Posted by: B || 04/12/2004 18:14 Comments || Top||

#8  Literary aside: this calls to mind a great short story by Dostoevsky called "The Gambler." It's a fun read and available online at School Library: The Gambler. Worth a browse and read during off-hours.

-Marko
Posted by: Mark O || 04/12/2004 18:55 Comments || Top||

#9  Revell is one of the only people on earth who is fully entitled to say:

"Better red than dead."
Posted by: Zenster || 04/12/2004 20:01 Comments || Top||

#10  Do not do this stunt by yourself, you have been warned. Only trained professionals should be doing this.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/12/2004 21:49 Comments || Top||


BBC to screen first TV sperm race
Must-See TV!
Digital TV channel BBC Three is to broadcast what it says is the first televised sperm race later this month. The race, to be shown as part of the educational Lab Rats series, will pit the sperm of presenters Dr Mike Leahy and Zeron Gibson against each other. It will be filmed inside two tiny glass tubes by a microscope and relayed to a crowd watching a pub’s big screen. BBC Three controller Stuart Murphy said it was being done for an audience that usually "balks at educational shows". It was a "creative risk" but Lab Rats tackled "difficult but important subjects", he added. Dr Leahy, a scientist, and Gibson, a comedian, say they will adopt different "training routines" to find out how different lifestyle choices affect reproductive abilities. They will then have their sperm measured and tested by fertility expert Allan Pacey from the University of Sheffield, who will predict which man is likely to win.
Posted by: Frank G || 04/12/2004 12:20:13 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  oops - should've tipped the hat to Drudge on this
Posted by: Frank G || 04/12/2004 12:20 Comments || Top||

#2  More of that high-class, high-quality programming that the BBC is famous for. We must make contributions to PBS so they can bring this quality program to the U.S. (where it will run between "Teletubbies" and "Are You Being Served?").
Posted by: Mike || 04/12/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#3  There's a Ron Jeremy joke here, isn't there?
Posted by: Raj || 04/12/2004 13:11 Comments || Top||

#4  Think of the kittens!
Posted by: Steve from Relto || 04/12/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Does the apprentice zgot get a better handicap?
Posted by: Shipman || 04/12/2004 16:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Why do I get the feeling Clintons sperm will end up in the test results somehow?
Posted by: Charles || 04/12/2004 18:37 Comments || Top||

#7  FOX should do a version of this pitting American seamen against the semen of the Guantanamo detainees. They can call it "The Ultimate Race: The US Navy vs. the Terrorists." We're going to find out once and for all who is the strong horse.
Posted by: Tibor || 04/12/2004 18:51 Comments || Top||


21 killed in free-sari stampede
LUCKNOW: Thousands of people, mostly women, had gathered under a huge white canopy to celebrate the birthday of Lalji Tandon, the state’s opposition leader and to receive saris being given to the poor. The stampede began when rumors spread through the crowd that there were no more saris to give away.

Twenty-eight people were injured, doctors said. The dead included eight women aged 45 to 60 years, and seven young girls who had lined up to receive saris as gifts, said Dr. Lalit Saxena, one of the doctors who took the bodies to three city hospitals. By noon, the death toll had reached 21, said Rajiv Ranjan Verma, senior superintendent of police for Lucknow. "We came with the hope that we would hear his speech. He celebrated his birthday and gave us death," Ketaki Devi, who ran out of the park to save herself, told reporters. "I saw several women fall down. They didn’t get up."

Hundreds of sandals were strewn across the park and chairs were overturned. Thousands of saris yet to be given away lay near the stage in bundles. "There were mostly old ladies from poor families who had come to get saris ," said Renuka Sharma, who was in a bookstore across the road when the stampede began. "We tried to stop the distribution but before we could do anything, everything went haywire and old women were trampled to death," said Brijendra Yadav, one of the organizers. So sari! Renaming the town Nolucknow.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 04/12/2004 9:58:53 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sorry, no sari.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/12/2004 16:04 Comments || Top||


Opera Dedicated to Rachel Corrie
Opera for dead terror abettor, Rachel Corrie, opening in Alaska (yup, you read that right)

Rachel Corrie(Soprano solo):

Feel sick to my stomach a lot
from being doted on all the time,
very sweetly,
by people who are facing doom.
They would be facing peace, if they weren’t strapping suicide-belts onto children, and working for the destruction of Israel.

You can always hear the tanks and bulldozers passing by.
I have bad nightmares about tanks and bulldozers outside our house,
and you and me inside.
Well, yeah, the IDF hunts down the killers that you defended in life..

Tanks and bulldozers destroyed 25 greenhouses
the livelihoods for 300 people.
Then the bulldozers come and take out
people’s vegetable farms and gardens.
Well, some of those 80 Gaza tunnels that Israeli bulldozer operators filled up, were funneling terrorists to Israel.
Posted by: Man Bites Dog || 04/12/2004 3:25:55 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This will give rise to a new saying: "It ain't over til the flat lady sings."
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/12/2004 9:40 Comments || Top||

#2  The set is fantastic, and the cast is quite talented, but I thought the girl in the lead role was a little flat.
Posted by: Dar || 04/12/2004 9:40 Comments || Top||

#3  " Gaza Flapjacks: The story of Saint Pancake. "
Posted by: Charles || 04/12/2004 9:49 Comments || Top||

#4  dar....;-]
Posted by: B || 04/12/2004 9:52 Comments || Top||

#5  Dave D hilarious!!!!!
Posted by: Phil B || 04/12/2004 10:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Brought to you by.... Caterpiller!
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/12/2004 10:04 Comments || Top||

#7  Is it really a good idea to have everything in the key of B-flat?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/12/2004 10:05 Comments || Top||

#8  Featuring songs by Mandy Moore (Ooh,I got a crush on you/I hope you feel the way that I do/I get a rush when I'm with you/Ooh,I got a crush on you. A crush on you.) and Badly Drawn Boy (the instrumental "Rachel's Flat").
Posted by: Mike || 04/12/2004 10:20 Comments || Top||

#9  . . . and "Bulldozer" by Machine Head.
Posted by: Mike || 04/12/2004 10:25 Comments || Top||

#10  I tried to pitch my own Opera version of the conflict in Israel,
but I found noone seemingly interested in my lyrics:

"I survived the horrors of Aushwitz,
and moved to a land where I was supposed
to live out my years in peace.

I was blessed with a family,
a new life there,
Children and grandchildren
whom I tearfully named after
my own parents and siblings,
murdered for no other reason
than being Jewish.

Some of them joined me
at the hotel that evening to celebrate Passover
with others like me,
Grandfathers,
Grandmothers,
little grandchildren
who also carried the names, and
in some part, the lives of those
lost to senseless evil.
Young, innocent
smiles, old grateful smiles.

We were blown to pieces.
The old smiles, reborn on new faces - erased again.
The old prayers for renewal and freedom, reborn from new mouths - erased again.
murdered for no other reason
than being Jewish.

Sorry, gang. I didn't mean to get heavy, especially after Dave, Dar and Charles' hysterical comments. This just kind of came out.
Rantburg and LGF are my favorite 'blogs, and I
have no problem with the myriad thousands of "Saint Corrie" jokes. But, when I have a second to think of her, I lose my smile as the images that LGF makes sure we never forget remind me of what she really was about, who she really aligned herself with.
Every day she outlived the people at that hotel, or the teenagers at the Sbarro's pizzeria was a sad day for the world.
Posted by: Ken B. || 04/12/2004 10:36 Comments || Top||

#11  just curious... does the role start out as a soprano, or does it start as an alto and ascend the scales as the steamroller moves up her body, a la Judge Doom near the end of "Roger Rabbit?"
Posted by: Dripping sarcasm || 04/12/2004 10:41 Comments || Top||

#12  No matter how much they try to portray the incident as a tragedy, it still comes across as a farce. There is nothing in the world so pitiful as a flat farce.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/12/2004 10:56 Comments || Top||

#13  Is it really a good idea to have everything in the key of B-flat?

C-flat.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/12/2004 11:03 Comments || Top||

#14  Ken B - I bet your opera, even if I sang the lead (well...ok, maybe not) would be better, pull larger crowds and find a better place in history. But alas, it and nothing ever like it, will receive the massive publicity needed to make it a success...like St. Rachel's will get.

I look at the bright side. The more young people who learn about Rachel, the more they will discover what she was really about and the more they will think their boom'n grandparents are a bunch of senile dopes.
Posted by: B || 04/12/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#15  Ken B--Don't apologize. That was a poignant reminder just why I'm so disgusted with Corrie and her support of such murderous filth. One can get so depressed thinking about the victims of this senseless violence that it is more tempting to mock her idiotic suicidal act than to dwell on just what she supported and represented. We shouldn't lose sight of that.

That being said, I think the key is actually D(-9) flat.
Posted by: Dar || 04/12/2004 11:24 Comments || Top||

#16  I thought that our own UAA (University of Alaska Anchorage) was infected by the LLL, but not this bad. Boy, what tommyrot. And ripping off the "Rivers of Babalyon" too. I came back from a memorial get together for a good friend that passed away too young in Fairbanks. There were 450 people there sharing their experiences with her. She had such love for everyone and did so much for others, even despite her debilitating disease in the end.

Unfortunately, Rachael Corrie, in her misguided and twisted way, enabled hate and terrorists. I will never forget her hateful look in the picture of her burning the American and Israeli flags in front of young kids. Take a good look at at the faces of those young children in the picture. Little kids do not hate. They learn it from older people. People like Rachael Corrie and others who teach it to others. So this hateful person is the one that Phillip Munger celebrates. This little dittie will wind up on the dustbin of history.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/12/2004 11:25 Comments || Top||

#17  AP - well said - but I don't think she will wind up in the dustbin of history. I think she'll be around for a long, long time. And sadly, for Rachel, she won't be a saint. She will be remembered for that picture and the dramatic contrast of her visible hated v/s her own misguided belief in the purity of her deeds. Of course, sealing her place among the library shelves...will be her tragic end set in the rubble of the thousand year old Israel/Arab conflict.

I really think it is a story of such dramatic proportions along that Shakespeare would have been hard pressed to out do it. I don't think she will soon be forgotten.
Posted by: B || 04/12/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#18  oh wait..it was the dittie you were referring to....
Posted by: B || 04/12/2004 11:47 Comments || Top||

#19  Alaska Paul,

I agree with what you say about the faces of those kids in the picture, but - and maybe I'm just projecting here - I can almost swear some of them look as as if they might be saying,

" Check out the American-bitch Poser! She's trying way too hard to say, Hey, look you poor oppressed people, I'm totally just like you! Love me!"

"I know, right? Hell, my brother is in Hamas and he doesn't make faces like that! And if my sister made a public spectacle of herself like that, I think my father would have pull an honor killing on her ass! What a loser!"
Posted by: Dripping sarcasm || 04/12/2004 11:52 Comments || Top||

#20  This story so depressed me that I knew I had to do something, so I started writing a cantata about the Saudi in the white robe that showed up in Ain al-hellhole. See that posting. Now I feel better. *sigh*
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/12/2004 11:52 Comments || Top||

#21  This is just flattening! Into the Classics it goes!
Posted by: Steve from Relto || 04/12/2004 11:53 Comments || Top||

#22  I think, in a way, Rachel will come to represent the entire generation of Anti-American, Vietnam, Boomer confused kids who believed in their purity as they spread the hate and shilled for tyrants who left piles of skulls stacked in shallow graves.... A generation whose "purity" was laid bare on September 11, 2001...when the WTC was flattened.

That is the opera I'd write.
Posted by: B || 04/12/2004 11:56 Comments || Top||

#23  "It ain't over til the flat lady sings."

ROFLMAO
Posted by: mojo || 04/12/2004 12:18 Comments || Top||

#24  Agree with the comments about the lead singer's voice. It sounded like the high notes were squeezed out of her.
Posted by: Infidel Bob || 04/12/2004 12:28 Comments || Top||

#25  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL || 04/12/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#26  OK, that last one makes it clear that Antiwar is a sock-puppet. Who's the joker?

C'mon! 'Fess up!
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/12/2004 13:58 Comments || Top||

#27  You are obviously all Zionnazis.
Antiwar, you are such a dumbshit...
You and St.Pancake, walking hand in hand into the future - swathed in burkhas head to toe, three feet behind your man, where you belong. That is, when you're let out of the house at all.

What you're too puny to understand, you fear, so you have to label it something vile, so YOU feel better. How very defining of you. Every time you post, you define yourself a bit more. The overall picture is definitely very unflattering. Thankfully, it's not like the ones of you at three months that your mother will show of you to your future fiance that will embarass you, or that someone will pull out for your children when they're in their formative years, showing your missing front teeth. Still, the impression you give others is extremely unflattering. Are you sure you want to project this ugly, bitter image for the entire world to see?
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/12/2004 14:00 Comments || Top||

#28  The goofy bitch deserved to be squashed like a ripe pimple. Anyone who doesn't have sense enough to get out of the way of a bulldozer, is a goddamn idiot and should be flattened....smashed into the dirt. Smushed like the cockroach she is/was.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 04/12/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#29  OK, folks. I am over my depression and I am back. The story of Rachel Corry is so tragic and stupid that I find it hard to get a handle on it. Then I got inspired and realized that her memory should be preserved in a ballad. I have written the chorus below. More time will be needed to get all the verses composed. Mike Morley, I can sure use your help! So here it is, a work in progress, to the tune of the Ballad of Jesse James:

Ballad of Rachel Corrie

[Chorus]

Rachel took a stand
In Gaza's troubled land
The Israeli Army she did face
But an IDF catskineer
Made Rachel much more thinner
And left his D-9 tracks upon her face
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/12/2004 14:10 Comments || Top||

#30  Oh no! It's the Zionists!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!

Stick a fork in "Antiwar", it's done.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/12/2004 14:13 Comments || Top||

#31 
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 04/12/2004 14:28 Comments || Top||

#32  Don't be so unhappy antiwuz, 2 space isn't bad altho you gotta know yer moibius strip ramps to get anywhere in our transportation system.
Posted by: Flat Lander || 04/12/2004 16:07 Comments || Top||

#33  What? Moibius strip? Is that near Gaza? I can't seem to change directions.
Posted by: St Rachel De Jemimuh || 04/12/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||

#34  St. Pancake was mortally wounded by falling debris and died in an Israeli hospital.
Posted by: Korora || 04/12/2004 17:18 Comments || Top||

#35  oh please...all zionists...now that is funny.....bottom line this chick put herself in the middle of a warzone..and not a very smart place to pluck yourself either..who the hell would want to die for a paleo!

if anything there should be a play written about that chinese dude who stood in front a tank in '89. now that dude had balls!

more intelligent ranting from our little aussie!
Posted by: Dan || 04/12/2004 18:27 Comments || Top||

#36  Anal-War: "Zionnazis" - can't seem to find it on a map. Is that anywhere near "Zion Crossroads"? Which state (or country)?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Davd D.: ROFLMAO! You da' man!
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/12/2004 23:05 Comments || Top||

#37  Hey Barbara Hole-Out--my country right or wrong applies to America--not Israel--why don't you move there if you want to continue your Amen Chorus?
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 04/13/2004 0:45 Comments || Top||

#38  Ok--it's OK for Israelis to kill Americans--just not Arabs?
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 04/13/2004 0:46 Comments || Top||

#39  Last minute Mike is on message!
Posted by: Shipman || 04/13/2004 6:57 Comments || Top||

#40  You are obviously all Zionnazis.
Posted by: Antiwar || 04/12/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||


Dumb Robber Wants Smart Threads
A Brooklyn bank robber let his fashion sense get in the way of his common sense, reports the New York Daily News. The man walked into the HSBC branch on the Fulton Mall in downtown Brooklyn at lunchtime Wednesday, handed a teller a note demanding an unspecified amount of money, and promptly got the cash. He then walked out the door — and right into the Porta Bella men's clothing shop next door. "I want to buy a suit," the sartorially-inspired thief told the store's employees. To prove he could pay for the fancy duds, he whipped the cash he'd just stolen out of his pocket — just in time for the dye packet hidden among the bills to go off. "As he pulled money out of his jacket," store manager Ehab Seif told the newspaper, "it started to explode." A huge cloud of thick red smoke began billowing through the shop. The robber took that as his cue to leave. "Later!" he shouted as he ran out the door, peeling off his red-stained clothing. Once-green, now-red bills were scattered across the store, matching the suddenly-red carpet. The robber's knit hat, down jacket and leather gloves were just inside the door. Police were searching for a short, heavy-set, slightly red-tinged man without any sharp clothing.
Newspaper ad for the store, following week: "Inventory reduction! New suits, $299 and up, navy, charcoal, tan; $19.95 red, mottled red, red and other colors!"
Posted by: Steve White || 04/12/2004 1:37:18 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Robs a bank, loses his pants. I feel sorry for the passing Girl Scouts.
Posted by: Charles || 04/12/2004 2:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Foo. This is what happens when you buy ready to red clothes.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/12/2004 18:12 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Oman Appoints Women Public Prosecutors
Five women were among some 30 newly appointed public prosecutors in Oman to help accelerate judicial matters, the official ONA news agency reported yesterday quoting a senior security official. The prosecutors were sworn in yesterday in a move aimed to “speed up cases still pending with the police,” said Lt. Gen. Malik ibn Suleiman Al-Maamari.
"I'm gonna put you away for a good, long time, boy!"
"Awwww, Mom!"
The Oman Daily Observer for its part reported yesterday that Oman Air has recruited the Gulf region’s first female avionics engineer. Alia Abdel Haffedh Al-Qalam is now a member of Oman Air’s complement of 36 Omani engineers and technicians. “As the first woman to do such a job in the country, and perhaps in the region, I believe I had to work harder to prove my worth in a male-dominated field,” she was quoted as saying the by the state-run daily. Starting with F27 approval, Alia attended local training on the fully electronic ATR aircraft before going to the United States for further training. “I would like to encourage Omani women to shed any hesitation that may keep them away from achieving their goals,” she said. Radhia Al-Hinai, a 32-year-old mother of five, made headlines last week when she became the first female Omani heavy vehicle driving instructor here. Oman got its first woman minister in early March when Sultan Qaboos named Rawaya bint Saud Al-Siyyabi to the higher education portfolio.
Posted by: Fred || 04/12/2004 11:19 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
Muslims Soon to Outnumber Jamaicans as Prisoners in the UK
Concluding paragraphs of interesting article from London’s City Journal
One sign of the increasing weakness of Islam’s hold over its nominal adherents in Britain — of which militancy is itself but another sign - is the throng of young Muslim men in prison. They will soon overtake the young men of Jamaican origin in their numbers and in the extent of their criminality. By contrast, young Sikhs and Hindus are almost completely absent from prison, so racism is not the explanation for such Muslim overrepresentation.
Except that Sikhs and Hindus aren't Muslims, as the Muslims themselves will point out. There goes that theory all blown to hell and back.
It would appear to be religion and culture, not race, wouldn't it?
Confounding expectations, these prisoners display no interest in Islam whatsoever; they are entirely secularized. True, they still adhere to Muslim marriage customs, but only for the obvious personal advantage of having a domestic slave at home. Many of them also dot the city with their concubines—sluttish white working-class girls or exploitable young Muslims who have fled forced marriages and do not know that their young men are married. This is not religion, but having one’s cake and eating it.
Or the worst of the culture without the religion...
The young Muslim men in prison do not pray; they do not demand halal meat. They do not read the Qu’ran. They do not ask to see the visiting imam. They wear no visible signs of piety: their main badge of allegiance is a gold front tooth, which proclaims them members of the city’s criminal subculture—a badge (of honor, they think) that they share with young Jamaicans, though their relations with the Jamaicans are otherwise fraught with hostility. The young Muslim men want wives at home to cook and clean for them, concubines elsewhere, and drugs and rock ‘n’ roll. As for Muslim proselytism in the prison—and Muslim literature has been insinuated into nooks and crannies there far more thoroughly than any Christian literature—it is directed mainly at the Jamaican prisoners. It answers their need for an excuse to go straight, while not at the same time surrendering to the morality of a society they believe has wronged them deeply. Indeed, conversion to Islam is their revenge upon that society, for they sense that their newfound religion is fundamentally opposed to it. By conversion, therefore, they kill two birds with one stone. But Islam has no improving or inhibiting effect upon the behavior of my city’s young Muslim men, who, in astonishing numbers, have taken to heroin, a habit almost unknown among their Sikh and Hindu contemporaries. The young Muslims not only take heroin but deal in it, and have adopted all the criminality attendant on the trade.
Sikh and Hindu youths also aren't in jail. Coincidence?
What I think these young Muslim prisoners demonstrate is that the rigidity of the traditional code by which their parents live, with its universalist pretensions and emphasis on outward conformity to them, is all or nothing; when it dissolves, it dissolves completely and leaves nothing in its place. The young Muslims then have little defense against the egotistical licentiousness they see about them and that they all too understandably take to be the summum bonum of Western life.
Of course the alternative of engaging in Western life, making something of themselves, self-sacrifice, delayed gratification, education and hard work, passed right by them.
Observing this, of course, there are among Muslim youth a tiny minority who reject this absorption into the white lumpenproletariat and turn militant or fundamentalist. It is their perhaps natural, or at least understandable, reaction to the failure of our society, kowtowing to absurd and dishonest multiculturalist pieties, to induct them into the best of Western culture: into that spirit of free inquiry and personal freedom that has so transformed the life chances of every person in the world, whether he knows it or not.
Perhaps a little less multi-culti kowtowing by our LLL friends would help people see the better aspects of Western life.
Islam in the modern world is weak and brittle, not strong: that accounts for its so frequent shrillness. The Shah will, sooner or later, triumph over the Ayatollah in Iran, because human nature decrees it, though meanwhile millions of lives will have been ruined and impoverished. The Iranian refugees who have flooded into the West are fleeing Islam, not seeking to extend its dominion, as I know from speaking to many in my city. To be sure, fundamentalist Islam will be very dangerous for some time to come, and all of us, after all, live only in the short term; but ultimately the fate of the Church of England awaits it.
Yassss, purty soon they'll have an Arch-Druid.
Its melancholy, withdrawing roar may well (unlike that of the Church of England) be not just long but bloody, but withdraw it will. The fanatics and the bombers do not represent a resurgence of unreformed, fundamentalist Islam, but its death rattle.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/12/2004 1:27:59 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mike--

City Journal is from NYC. Dalrymple is their London guy.
Posted by: BMN || 04/12/2004 13:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Didn't realize that Jamaicians were a big problem. Frankly.. never met a Jamacian I didn't like.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/12/2004 17:42 Comments || Top||

#3  How many of these guys are converting so they might be considered for special treatement, or so they can claim discrimination, I wonder? And does anybody think that Osama would hire these losers in a heartbeat, just because they claim to be Muslim and don't much like the society that imprisoned them?
Posted by: The Doctor || 04/12/2004 17:42 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm thinking they like the multiple wives thing . . .
Posted by: The Doctor || 04/12/2004 17:43 Comments || Top||

#5  I would like to see an sustained effort to jail more fundi-kooks. This would provide a healthy balance in the Moslem prison population.

Side note - It sounds to me as if the majority of the prisoners are of Pakistani decent. Heroin dealers are no great benefit to society but if I wanted to jail a probable terrorist, I would stakeout Captain Hook's mosque and investigate every visitor.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/12/2004 17:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Christianity, the white man's religion.

Blacks are seen as slaves in parts of Islam, aren't they?

Didn't Binny once use/write a derogatory term for them?
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 04/12/2004 22:05 Comments || Top||

#7  'Frankly.. never met a Jamacian I didn't like.' I have found a similar thing with moslems. Individually they are often very nice people, but a significant minority are violent psychopathic thugs, and the same person could be both in different situations. I think it is related to societies where personal relationships are more important than institutions and respect for institutions. People from these societies try and develop a personal relationship with whoever they meet.


Posted by: Phil B || 04/12/2004 22:27 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Wall Construction Controversy moves to Rio
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/12/2004 20:26 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Kill this. I've been beat like a rug.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/12/2004 21:19 Comments || Top||


Campaigners decry Rio slum wall
Plans to ring two slums in Rio de Janeiro with a 3-metre (10-foot) wall have been condemned by human rights groups and the city’s own mayor. Officials in Brazil’s main city are pushing the idea after a drug-related turf war at the weekend left two policemen and six others dead.
Umm ... no. This isn’t Berlin and neither is it the West Bank. If your country’s government is involved in shooting street children for sport, you don’t get to cage them like animals.

Let’s see Brazil make a bit of social progress before trying such an exclusionary tactic. The gap separating wealthy people from the underclass is far too wide to justify such obvious isolationism. Any unwillingness to adjust such a blatant discrepency should be met with routine breaches of this proposed wall. They’re not terrorist Arabs seeking to demolish civilization as we know it.

These happen to be actual human beings seeking some sort of stable life.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/12/2004 8:20:06 PM || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wassa matter Zipster? Tired with pretending to be a conservative? Or is it us conservatives are annoyingly well informed and have no difficulty debunking your leftist tripe?

People have been building walls and fences for a very long time and for very good reasons. But then those nasty Joooos build one to keep out those nice palestinians, and suddenly walls and fences are baaad!
Posted by: Phil B || 04/12/2004 20:33 Comments || Top||

#2  "Or is it us conservatives are annoyingly well informed and have no difficulty debunking your leftist tripe?"

[KMart Voiceover] Grammar clean up on aisle five.

Get a clue, Phil B. I advocate the most severe measures against terrorist actions. Do you honestly encourage major efforts directed in opposition to those who fight unfair isolationism?

The Brazilian protesters deserve to be heard when it comes to their arguments against elitism.

PS: Distorting someone's screen name is a grade school tactic. Continue to do so if you see fit.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/12/2004 21:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Isn't Brazil going nuclear?

If they have enough money for the bomb, they have enough money to help their people.

Saddam-lite in some respects.
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 04/12/2004 22:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Phil B is right, Zipster.
You can tell you're a Liberal--Only Leftie Libs like you and Clintoon would want to run down to Rio and "intervene" on the behalf of the USA(with peacekeeping troops perhaps?) while we're fully engaged in the WOT.
And we've cleaned up messes of late in Liberia and Haiti in
addition to the war, while we continue to have troops stationed in Kosovo.
This wall and the problems of Rio's poor aren't really our problem and Lula hasn't exactly asked for our help in his own backyard.
The world is full of problems, if you go looking, which you obviously did.
The United States, as rich, prosperous and benevolent as it is, isn't God and cannot clean up every mess on the globe just because someone decries the abuse of "human rights."
America was attacked on 9/11 and in an abandonment of our traditionally isolationist policy we went to war against those who attacked us, i.e. Islamist terrorists and their rogue state sponsors.
Now, get your sh*t together and decide who and what you believe in and support and precisely why and then decide after long meditation if you still want to continue being RB's most avid, yet vapid poster.
Posted by: Jen || 04/12/2004 22:20 Comments || Top||

#5  Zipster, I think you need to find a new grammar checker, cos there was nothing wrong with my grammar.
Posted by: Phil B || 04/12/2004 22:33 Comments || Top||

#6  "... cos there was nothing wrong with my grammar."

I rest my case.

Jen, when you finally realize that the misogynistic Loya Jirga has a lot in common with a gang-rape-ordering Pakistani jirga, your head won't be anywhere near as close to exploding.

Until then, walling off the impoverished portion of a city's population still reeks. As our anonymous contributor pointed out, if Brazil is rich enough to go nuclear, they have the money to spend on bettering their nation's poor.

I've yet to see any reports about poverty stricken Brazilian slum dwellers strapping on bomb vests.







Posted by: Zenster || 04/13/2004 3:23 Comments || Top||

#7  Zipster, go buy a dictionary. It would help you make sense.
Posted by: Phil B || 04/13/2004 4:36 Comments || Top||

#8  Phil B, I'm obliged to interpret your support for the Rio wall as a similar approval for American cities to section off their own slums.

So, when are you going to openly advocate walling off Compton from greater Los Angeles? How about Bedford-Sty or Harlem from New York? Your thinking is about as American as Mao Tse Dung.

PS: Name calling is not only a grade school occupation, it usually relects an inability to adequately prove one's point without resorting to personalities.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/13/2004 10:40 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Cheney Meets With Japanese Prime Minister
Vice President Dick Cheney conferred Monday with Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi in a session overshadowed by new violence and the holding of foreign hostages in Iraq, including three Japanese civilians. Cheney was expected to urge Koizumi to stand firm in pressing ahead with plans to double Japan's noncombat forces despite the furor over the abductions. The captors had threatened to kill the Japanese hostages by Sunday if Japan did not pull its forces out by Sunday. The deadline came and went. The kidnappers had indicated they had decided to release their captives, but early Monday in Tokyo Japanese officials said there was still no word on them. Japan has refused to pull out its troops, but the nation is deeply divided on their presence in Iraq. Cheney was "keeping in close touch with the White House and Bush administration officials, monitoring the developments in Iraq and elsewhere," spokesman Kevin Kellems said. The vice president is asking Japan and South Korea, which both have troops in Iraq, to stay the course.

Meanwhile, a report by the Arab TV station Al-Arabiya that insurgents kidnapped seven Chinese north of Fallujah on Sunday evening, citing Chinese diplomatic sources, could further complicate Cheney's trip. Cheney was to be in Beijing on Tuesday. U.S. officials said they had no information on the report, and that Iraq already was expected to be high on Cheney's agenda in China.
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#1  chainey probly going there for spare batery pack.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/12/2004 13:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Mark I
Posted by: Shamu || 04/12/2004 16:18 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Canuckistan Offensive Launched against Pinniped Menace
Yes, it’s a Death Match pitting Canada against the baby seals. Contact your local bookie for the betting line.
Sealers have been making their way out to ice floes off the coast of Newfoundland and Labrador for the annual hunt. Under new guidelines, most seals are meant to be shot and not clubbed to death in a bid to make the killing more humane. Around 140,000 seals are expected to be slaughtered by the end of Tuesday.
Ever since the Cauckians bowed out of the WoT, their aggressiveness has found new outlets: first the testiness with the Danes over puffin-infested rocks, now this campaign against the baby seal menace.
Canadian Natural Resources Minister John Efford...argued that the seal population was exploding - an estimated 5.2 million harp seals in the North Atlantic at present
Who will take over Canada first, the jihadis or the seals ?
Posted by: Carl in N.H || 04/12/2004 6:23:00 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Years ago I saw a 2nd City sketch where John Candy threw himself onto a baby harp seal to protect it from a hunter with obvious results. I loved that show.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/12/2004 19:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Q: What's a baby harp seal's favorite drink?

A: Canadian Club on the rocks!
Posted by: Zenster || 04/12/2004 19:51 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
John Kerry Compiling ’Misery Index’
John Kerry is broadening his economic assault on President Bush with a "misery index" that suggests a combination of soaring college and health care costs and stagnant incomes have battered working families during Bush’s term, campaign documents obtained Sunday showed.
Read the rest at the link.
Shades of Jimmah Cahtah! The Dem-o-Rats just have to make sure everybody’s miserable; otherwise, they would be. Give it a rest, willya?
Fred, change the "file under" topic if you want. I was torn between this one and "Fifth Column."
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut bskolaut@hotmail.com || 04/12/2004 12:05:00 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What a great idea! National Maliase the Sequel.
The original worked so well for the peanut farmer, I hope it works as well for Monsuer Kerry.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 04/12/2004 8:30 Comments || Top||

#2  WHen it comes to the "traditional" misery index, Dubya's doing fine. Thus, they have to concoct a tailor-made index that will make Dubya look bad, while sparing carter and clinton.
Posted by: Ptah || 04/12/2004 10:32 Comments || Top||

#3  I just got my monthly Veterans rag and they were asking (last month) for any positive inputs from veterans on JF Kerry. Guess what? None were sent to the editor! Come to think of it, has he actually talk to any Veterans group or active duty personnel? Aside from the rent-a-mob and DNC koolaid drinkers is there any groundswell with any veterans group to support Kerry? Sorry to be off topic but so is the ‘Misery Index.’ If you go to college and get a ‘real’ degree you should have no trouble finding gainful employment after graduation. You might have to move out of your parents house but there are jobs out there. If you spent four years getting a degree in Spanish, Women’s Studies, Art history, or Psychology you might the job market a bit ‘soft’ at this time. In that case you may want to stay in college a couple extra semesters and get a double major in Science, Engineering, Computer Science, or Teaching. All of these are high job growth sectors in the next TEN years.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 04/12/2004 13:55 Comments || Top||

#4  If you spent four years getting a degree in Spanish, Women’s Studies, Art history, or Psychology
im supposed to feel sorrow? us english magers doing hard time under the heal of bushitler,
Posted by: HalfEmpty || 04/12/2004 16:26 Comments || Top||

#5  Not sure what you mean by that halfempty. But I wanted to say that if you don't look at the end worth of your studies then your are a fool. Being a Art Major might be fun. Being able to discuss (and dicern) paintings might win you some chick points but there are damn few jobs in that sector. Same thing with a Degree in Women's Studies. Great if you are joining NOW, but it won't buy you that new house or pay off your college loans.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 04/12/2004 17:03 Comments || Top||

#6  I ran across an article on the Internet a couple of years ago that matched degrees awarded with the number of jobs available specifically mentioning a requirement for that degree. Unfortunately, I can't find it at the moment. I'll try to do a search over the next couple of days to see if I can relocate it. One of the surprises was the number of degrees being issued for which there was not a SINGLE JOB matching the degree requirements - several thousand annually. There were dozens of listings showing hundreds of graduates annually, while the number of available jobs were less than a dozen. Those are pretty poor odds. The thing is, most college counsellors know this, and can steer a student in the right direction - IF THE STUDENT IS SMART ENOUGH TO ASK. Unforunately, with our dumbed-down "education" establishment...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/12/2004 22:00 Comments || Top||


Oopsies! Someone left the front door open at John Kerry official site...

Hat Tip, LGF
This is a partial result.
Posted by: badanov || 04/12/2004 12:05:00 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fix the URL ... I'm the most recent of them ^_~
Posted by: Edward Yee || 04/12/2004 1:23 Comments || Top||

#2  If anybody out there remembers Brother Dave Gardner, well, you're older than dirt (lol!) and you'll perhaps recall this warning from Baby - and, thus, understand that the following is a message to the Kerry Campaign regards using Internet technology.

"Charles, get away from that wheelbarrow! You knows you don't know nuthin' about machinery!"

Flip Wilson, go fuck thyownself. Lol!
Posted by: .com || 04/12/2004 1:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Is there an archive of these . . . for those of us who came late to the party?
Posted by: Mike || 04/12/2004 8:27 Comments || Top||

#4  I do remember Brother Dave Gardner but I'm not older than dirt. I did, however, help invent mud.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/12/2004 9:05 Comments || Top||

#5  As Sgt. Schultz useta say: "I know nothink!"

HeHeHe
Posted by: mojo || 04/12/2004 10:35 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Clarke book has errors about arrest of Ahmed Ressam
EFL:
As former White House counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke tells it in his book "Against All Enemies," an international alert to be on the lookout for terrorists played a role in Ressam's capture at a Port Angeles ferry terminal in December 1999, his car loaded with bomb-making material. But national-security adviser Condoleezza Rice, in her testimony before the Sept. 11 commission last week, discounted Clarke's version and credited a savvy U.S. customs agent, Diana Dean. Dean stopped Ressam because "she sniffed something about Ressam. They saw that something was wrong" — not because of some security alert, Rice testified.

The debate over Ressam's capture encapsulates the controversy between Clarke and the Bush administration over which president — Clinton or Bush — took the threat of al-Qaida more seriously, and whether either administration did enough before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Disputing Clarke's claim, Rice testified customs agents "weren't actually on alert." At least one of the agents who helped apprehend Ressam sides with Rice's version of events. Moreover, others involved in the Ressam case say Clarke's book contains factual errors and wrongly implies national-security officials knew of Ressam's plan to set a bomb at Los Angeles International Airport long before they actually did. Ressam's arrest came on President Clinton's watch. Early that month, Clarke wrote in his book, the United States had learned terrorists linked to Osama bin Laden were planning as many as 15 attacks on Americans worldwide as the millennium approached.

Clarke, who worked for both Clinton and Bush, said he convened the Counter-terrorism Security Group, which he chaired, and sent out warnings both overseas and to local, state and federal law-enforcement agencies around the country to be on heightened alert for suspicious activity. "And then we waited," he wrote. "The break came in an unlikely location," Clarke wrote, describing Ressam's arrest by customs agents during a "routine screening." According to a former customs agent who was involved, Clarke's version, laid out in one chapter of his book, wrongly implies they were on "heightened alert" and somehow looking for terrorists. "No," was the terse reply of Michael Chapman, one of the customs agents who arrested Ressam, when asked if he was aware of a security alert. "We were on no more alert than we're always on. That is a matter of public record," said Chapman, now a Clallam County commissioner.

A review of the trial testimony of Chapman, Dean and two other U.S. customs agents involved in the arrest turned up no reference to a security alert. Rather, it supports Chapman's assessment that agents thought Ressam was smuggling drugs when they opened the trunk of his rental car and found bags of white powder buried in the spare-tire well. Only after finding several plastic black boxes, containing watches wired to circuit boards, did anyone suspect a bomb. Dean has said repeatedly she singled Ressam out for a closer look because he was nervous, fumbling and sweating. Ressam has since told agents he was sick, and federal sources have confirmed Ressam had apparently gotten malaria while at terrorist-training camps in Afghanistan.

Clarke's version of that night contains other errors. Some of them are minor. But one implies national-security officials knew more about Ressam's plans than they could have at the time:
• Clarke wrote that Ressam bolted and left his car on the ferry. In fact, Ressam drove off the ferry and ran when he was stopped for inspection.

• Clarke reported Dean ran after Ressam. Actually, two other agents gave chase.

• More significantly, Clarke wrote that agents had found "explosives and a map of the Los Angeles International Airport" in the car, implying the threat to the airport was known almost immediately. There was no map in the car. A map of Greater Los Angeles was found days later in Ressam's apartment in Montreal. Nobody had a clue for nearly 11 months that Los Angeles was a target. Circles scrawled on the map around three L.A.-area airports weren't found until October 2000, after the document had been turned over to the FBI. It wasn't until Ressam began cooperating in May 2001 that his actual target was known for sure. In fact, in the weeks after Ressam's capture, officials in Seattle were so unsure about his actual target that then-Mayor Paul Schell canceled the city's popular New Year's Eve celebration at Seattle Center, thinking the Space Needle could be a target.

• Clarke reported Canadians had somehow "missed" the existence of Ressam's cell of radical Algerian Muslims in Montreal and that, after Ressam's arrest, the Canadian government cooperated. According to testimony at Ressam's trial and interviews with Canadian intelligence officials, Ressam and the cell in Montreal had been under surveillance for at least two years before Ressam's arrest. But the Canadian Security Intelligence Service never told anyone.
Cuz, everyone knows, there ain't no terrorists in Canada.
U.S. prosecutors have complained bitterly about Canada's foot-dragging as the Ressam case proceeded. Canadian prosecutors blocked U.S. access to at least one crucial witness — an Algerian who gave Ressam a gun and talked about blowing up Jews in Montreal. Indeed, the U.S. came within hours of dropping charges against Ressam on the eve of his March 2001 trial because the Canadian government attempted to withdraw the witnesses. King County Superior Court Judge Steven Gonzalez, who, in 2001, was one of three federal prosecutors who tried Ressam in Los Angeles, agreed some of Clarke's assertions "are not consistent with the evidence at trial."
There's a word for that, let me think...
Another Brookings scholar, Stephen Hess, a senior fellow on governmental studies and an authority on Washington and the media, said errors in memoirs are not unusual or particularly significant unless they affect the broader point or conclusion the author is drawing. "So it's hard to say what the significance of these errors are," Hess added. "Whether you agree with him or not, I don't think anybody has accused Dick Clarke of being sloppy."
Oh, yeah, I remembered the word I was looking for. Liar.
Posted by: Steve || 04/12/2004 2:45:49 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Clarke is begining (I Hope) to feel the heat from his lies. This coupled with oh so significant (NOT) October 6 PDB Memo makes Clarkes book look more like fiction than reality. How come I hear zilch, nada, nothing from CNN/MSNBC/ABC/NBC/CBS? Even the border patrol agents discredit his version of events. Tough when the people who were actually there tell a different story. I think someone was shaking a tree one day and Dick Clarke fell onto his head!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 04/12/2004 15:41 Comments || Top||

#2  From the first time I heard this yarn about the customs guard arresting Ressa, I never believed a word of it. It's a typical story to serve as a cover for intelligence collected by NSA. The US Government was very probably tracking Ressa during his entire drive across Canada.

This is similar to that yarn the Philippine police tell about that fire breaking out in Ramzi Yousef's apartment in Manila. Likewise in that case, some super-alert cop acted on a premonition and thus prevented a horrendous bomb attack.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/12/2004 16:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Clarkes a joke, trust me on this one, I know one when I see one. I'd stay but I've an appointment with Stanley. (Who is actually CID) but't don't say anything, I wasn't here. Mum's the word.
Posted by: Col Flagg || 04/12/2004 16:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Instapundit notes that Clarke's been hired by ABC as an analyst. Jennings gave him a few softballs to swing at in his "news" interview, but ABC also denied access to him to the other nets and media, effectively preventing him from being questioned on his errors and accusations.
Posted by: Frank G || 04/12/2004 16:57 Comments || Top||

#5  Frank. I don't think ABC can protect him from a subpoena.......

What this tells me is that ABC is providing Clarke cover for his bullshit.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/12/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#6  Good point Frank! While under contract with ABC Mr Clarke can't answer questions of other media outlets. Reporters can't 'shake the idiot tree' and see if Clarke falls out. Good political move on LLL controlled media too. Any bets that Mr. Clarke will be asked any important questions before November 2? And how long will he be on the payroll after that?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 04/12/2004 17:25 Comments || Top||

#7  Before the Patriot Act was implemented or some other initiative, I don't believe that alerts would ever make it down to a customs agent at all and certainly not in a timely manner. It would be interesting to ask this customs agent whether she was a aware of an alert during this time. If she says she remembers one, I would still like to see it traced back through the bureaucratic maze to Clarke.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/12/2004 17:39 Comments || Top||

#8  "Indeed,the U.S. came within hours of dropping charges..."
Again demonstrating the utter futility of treating Islamic terrorists as criminals.Treat captured terrorists as prisoners of war and keep imprisoned until OBL,Al Qaida and the rest are destroyed or surrender.They declared war,treat 'em accordingly.
Posted by: Stephen || 04/12/2004 18:21 Comments || Top||

#9  People are paying good money to buy Clarke's stoopid book. Why?
Posted by: GK || 04/12/2004 18:28 Comments || Top||

#10 
Clarke book has errors
And lies, and falsehoods, and untruths....

Just like Clarke himself.

As I wrote to Glenn Reynolds, ABC has already hit rock bottom (along with the rest of the leftist "mainstream" media). Maybe they hired Clarke to help them start digging.

And I wonder who's really paying his salary? Soros, perhaps?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/12/2004 18:28 Comments || Top||

#11  From everything I've read about this book, it has more holes than a Swiss golf course.
Posted by: Tibor || 04/12/2004 18:46 Comments || Top||

#12  All we have to do is review the news stories from that time.

I remember that the agent thought he was suspicious.

Yet, now we read that Bubba's admin sent out a warning.

All those stories and no one ever thought to ask?
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 04/12/2004 22:28 Comments || Top||


Plea for Slain Soldier's Two Surviving Sisters
...From www.foxnews.com .
'With three daughters serving in Iraq, John and Lori Witmer's family Web site collected photos from Baghdad, notes to home and messages of encouragement. "Keep praying! They're almost home!" a recent entry says. But the top notice, dated Sunday, carried grim news: "We regret to inform you that Michelle Witmer (search) was killed in action April 9th ...."

The 20-year-old private died when her Humvee was ambushed in Baghdad, making her the first woman in the Wisconsin National Guard to die in combat. Her family is asking the military to stop her sisters from being sent back to Iraq after this week's funeral. "I can't live another year like I've lived this one," John Witmer told The Associated Press. "The sacrifice that this family's made can never be understood by someone who hasn't gone through it... It's a burden I can't bear. My family can't bear it."

Michelle's 24-year-old sister, Rachel, served in the same unit, the 32nd Military Police Company, which was expected to leave Iraq shortly but just had its duty extended 120 days. Charity Witmer, Michelle's twin, was sent to Iraq late last year as a medic with Company B of the Wisconsin Guard's 118th Medical Battalion. The surviving sisters were expected home Monday, two days before Michelle's funeral. The Witmers also have two sons. The family said state National Guard leaders agreed to take their appeal to the Pentagon on Monday. Relatives also were seeking help from Sen. Russ Feingold, and Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. John Witmer acknowledged the final decision of whether to return will be up to his daughters. But he said they would have to understand "how terribly we need to know they're not going back."

Witmer said he worried about his daughters joining the military but felt at the time that duty with the National Guard would be relatively safe, especially with a military police unit. "My daughters wanted the freedom of being able to call their shots with their education," he said. "They were using that to go to school." Jan Pretzel, the sisters' grandmother, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that by February, Michelle had an inkling her unit might soon ship out of Iraq because members were told to tell their families to stop shipping packages. "This is a REALLY GOOD SIGN!!" she wrote in an e-mail. "The redeployment process (though it may be long) is finally beginning! There is finally a light at the end of the tunnel!"
...First of all, my thoughts and prayers are with the Witmer family. This must be a nightmare of truly unimaginable proportions for them. The other thing to keep in mind is that if the other sisters are sent home, watch for the dam to break on this subject. There are a surprisingly large number of siblings serving together in Iraq, and there is at least one father/son team I'm aware of.

This is going to bring up discussion of 'the Sullivan Law' - a VERY badly misunderstood piece of military rulemaking. The Sullivan POLICY - for tis' its true name - was promulgated after the loss of the five Sullivan brothers on a single USN cruiser early in WWII. After that, POLICY - not law, not regulation - stated that the forces would no longer assign siblings or other closely related family members to the same combat theatre or ship. This action inspired the movie 'Saving Private Ryan' - but it is a policy only - the DOD still reserves the right to say 'No', and with the tight personnel levels out there, I think you're going to see some strong resistance from DOD and the services to sending anybody home except at the end of their scheduled tours.
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 04/12/2004 11:23:58 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  this article leave more question than answer.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/12/2004 13:20 Comments || Top||

#2  "My daughters wanted the freedom of being able to call their shots with their education," he said. "They were using that to go to school."
My condilences to the family, but lets understand tha the Military is not some scholarship program. The education is a benny for having served with honor. Unless the women themselves request the transfer they Pentagon should deny the parents request. (IMHO)
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 04/12/2004 14:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Links to more historical background:
The Sullivan brothers
USS The Sullivans DD-537
USS The Sullivans DDG-68
Posted by: Mike || 04/12/2004 14:36 Comments || Top||

#4  What a surprise, wailing mothers on the media, hello you're daughters and sons are at war, what does it take to get through to these people that this is war??? Welcome to the world, sorry it takes a death in the family to raise you're head out of the sand, realise what is going on and maybe vote differently?
Posted by: Anonymous4123 || 04/12/2004 17:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Hey Anon,

The Wittmers are ALREADY Democrats, both parents and daughters.

I feel very bad for them all and I appreciate their service and sacrifice. Personally, if it were my sister killed, I'd stay to ensure the Jihadis got what was coming to them. But people grieve in different ways.

The Sullivan Policy was already in effect when the Sullivan brothers appealed through channels to be together. Their wish was granted but, ironically, the boys elected to split up prior to the mission they would die on as they themselves realized how truly at risk they were...they just didn't get the chance.

Poor Mrs. Sullivan looks like a ghost in those old newsreel films. She died soon after her boys. Makes you appreciate what we have. God bless our men and women in uniform.
Posted by: JDB || 04/12/2004 20:45 Comments || Top||

#6  From the Des Moines Register "Guard bars brothers from serving together"

http://desmoinesregister.com/news/stories/c2229999/23882429.html

Sounds like they understand the risks.
Posted by: sc88 || 04/12/2004 21:51 Comments || Top||


Bush failed to stop al-Qaeda during the Clinton years!!!1
ScrappleFace, natch.
(2004-04-11) -- A presidential briefing, dated August 6, 2001, and released by the White House yesterday, shows that in 1998 George W. Bush did nothing to respond to the threat of terror attacks from Usama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network.

In fact, when correlated with last week’s testimony before the 9/11 Commission by National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, it seems clear that the Bush administration had virtually no plan to act on top-secret intelligence gathered during the Clinton administration until after George W. Bush took office in 2001.

"The August 6 PDB (President’s Daily Brief) clearly shows that the White House knew of potential al Qaeda threats within the United States in 1998," said an unnamed source from an unnamed, non-partisan Washington think tank, "and yet Texas Governor George W. Bush didn’t do anything about these threats until after he became president."

A former senior official in the Clinton administration, who requested anonymity, said that former President Bill Clinton was "aghast at the lethargic response of Governor Bush to the clear and present danger al Qaeda posed to our homeland in the 1990s."
Posted by: Steve from Relto || 04/12/2004 11:11:08 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Islamic Mediation Techniques for Middle East Conflicts

Hat tip Juan Cole
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A perceptive observer of Arab society, Halim Barakat, writes that "the contemporary Arab economic order is a peculiar cluster of different modes of production, all operating at once, which renders it simultaneously semi-feudal, semi-socialist, and semi-capitalist."[25] This schizophrenic nature of Middle Eastern society is also illustrated by the coexistence of religious fundamentalists and secular intellectuals, agrarian forms of production and subsistance farming.


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Why we must never abandon this historic struggle in Iraq
Posted by: Mark || 04/12/2004 12:05:00 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Prime Minister Blair will go down in history as one of the greatest leaders, if there is a history to write.

He speaks the plain truth. We cannot lose in Iraq. Our own media is the terrorists greatest weapon, and they know it.

If we lose heart it won't be because we cannot win, it will be because we no longer believe in our own values.

We stand at a truth crossroads in human history. Will we have the fortitude to take the right path?
Posted by: RMcLeod || 04/12/2004 4:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Tremendous editorial. Blair is able to express the truth so powerfully and persuasively. Anyone who refuses to understand that truth is deluding themself. I wish Bush were making the same case as powerfully. I know he has the same sentiments, but he and his campaign can't seem to explain those ideas with anything approaching the clarity of Blair.
Posted by: sludj || 04/12/2004 13:33 Comments || Top||


Tony Blair so gets it! And..... he’s coming to keep Bush from "going wobbling"
Why we must never abandon this historic struggle in Iraq

Tony Blair
Sunday April 11, 2004
The Observer

We are locked in a historic struggle in Iraq. On its outcome hangs more than the fate of the Iraqi people. Were we to fail, which we will not, it is more than ’the power of America’ that would be defeated. The hope of freedom and religious tolerance in Iraq would be snuffed out. Dictators would rejoice; fanatics and terrorists would be triumphant. Every nascent strand of moderate Arab opinion, knowing full well that the future should not belong to fundamentalist religion, would be set back in bitter disappointment.
If we succeed - if Iraq becomes a sovereign state, governed democratically by the Iraqi people; the wealth of that potentially rich country, their wealth; the oil, their oil; the police state replaced by the rule of law and respect for human rights - imagine the blow dealt to the poisonous propaganda of the extremists. Imagine the propulsion toward change it would inaugurate all over the Middle East.

In every country, including our own, the fanatics are preaching their gospel of hate, basing their doctrine on a wilful perversion of the true religion of Islam. At their fringe are groups of young men prepared to conduct terrorist attacks however and whenever they can. Thousands of victims the world over have now died, but the impact is worse than the death of innocent people.

The terrorists prey on ethnic or religious discord. From Kashmir to Chechnya, to Palestine and Israel, they foment hatred, they deter reconciliation. In Europe, they conducted the massacre in Madrid. They threaten France. They forced the cancellation of the President of Germany’s visit to Djibouti. They have been foiled in Britain, but only for now.

Of course they use Iraq. It is vital to them. As each attack brings about American attempts to restore order, so they then characterise it as American brutality. As each piece of chaos menaces the very path toward peace and democracy along which most Iraqis want to travel, they use it to try to make the coalition lose heart, and bring about the retreat that is the fanatics’ victory.

They know it is a historic struggle. They know their victory would do far more than defeat America or Britain. It would defeat civilisation and democracy everywhere. They know it, but do we? The truth is, faced with this struggle, on which our own fate hangs, a significant part of Western opinion is sitting back, if not half-hoping we fail, certainly replete with schadenfreude at the difficulty we find.

So what exactly is the nature of the battle inside Iraq itself? This is not a ’civil war’, though the purpose of the terrorism is undoubtedly to try to provoke one. The current upsurge in violence has not spread throughout Iraq. Much of Iraq is unaffected and most Iraqis reject it. The insurgents are former Saddam sympathisers, angry that their status as ’boss’ has been removed, terrorist groups linked to al-Qaeda and, most recently, followers of the Shia cleric, Muqtada-al-Sadr.

The latter is not in any shape or form representative of majority Shia opinion. He is a fundamentalist, an extremist, an advocate of violence. He is wanted in connection with the murder of the moderate and much more senior cleric, Ayatollah al Khoei last year. The prosecutor, an Iraqi judge, who issued a warrant for his arrest, is the personification of how appallingly one-sided some of the Western reporting has become. Dismissed as an American stooge, he has braved assassination attempts and extraordinary intimidation in order to follow proper judicial process and has insisted on issuing the warrant despite direct threats to his life in doing so.

There you have it. On the one side, outside terrorists, an extremist who has created his own militia, and remnants of a brutal dictatorship which murdered hundreds of thousands of its own people and enslaved the rest. On the other side, people of immense courage and humanity who dare to believe that basic human rights and liberty are not alien to Arab and Middle Eastern culture, but are their salvation.

Over the past few weeks, I have met several people from the Iraqi government, the first genuine cross-community government Iraq had seen. People like Mrs Barwari, the Minister of Public Works, who has just survived a second assassination attempt that killed her bodyguard; people like Mr Zebari, the Foreign Minister. They are intelligent, forward-looking, tolerant, dedicated to their country. They know that ’the occupation’ can be used to stir up anti-coalition feeling; they, too, want their country governed by its people and no one else. But they also know that if we cut and run, their country would be at the mercy of warring groups which are united only in their distaste for democracy.

The tragedy is that outside of the violence which dominated the coverage of Iraq, there are incredible possibilities of progress. There is a huge amount of reconstruction going on; the legacy of decades of neglect is slowly being repaired.

By 1 June, electricity will be 6,000MW, 50 per cent more than prewar, but short of the 7,500MW they now need because of the massive opening up of the economy, set to grow by 60 per cent this year and 25 per cent the next.

The first private banks are being opened. A new currency is in circulation. Those in work have seen their salaries trebled or quadrupled and unemployment is falling. One million cars have been imported. Thirty per cent now have satellite TV, once banned, where they can watch al-Jazeera, the radical Arab TV station, telling them how awful the Americans are.

The internet is no longer forbidden. Shrines are no longer shut. Groups of women and lawyers meet to discuss how they can make sure the new constitution genuinely promotes equality. The universities eagerly visit Western counterparts to see how a modern, higher-education system, free to study as it pleases, would help the new Iraq.

People in the West ask: why don’t they speak up, these standard-bearers of the new Iraq? Why don’t the Shia clerics denounce al-Sadr more strongly? I understand why the question is asked. But the answer is simple: they are worried. They remember 1991, when the West left them to their fate. They know their own street, unused to democratic debate, rife with every rumour, and know its volatility. They read the Western papers and hear its media. And they ask, as the terrorists do: have we the stomach to see it through?

I believe we do. And the rest of the world must hope that we do. None of this is to say we do not have to learn and listen. There is an agenda that could unite the majority of the world. It would be about pursuing terrorism and rogue states on the one hand and actively remedying the causes around which they flourish on the other: the Palestinian issue; poverty and development; democracy in the Middle East; dialogue between main religions.

I have come firmly to believe the only ultimate security lies in our values. The more people are free, the more tolerant they are of others; the more prosperous, the less inclined they are to squander that prosperity on pointless feuding and war.

But our greatest threat, apart from the immediate one of terrorism, is our complacency. When some ascribe, as they do, the upsurge in Islamic extremism to Iraq, do they really forget who killed whom on 11 September 2001? When they call on us to bring the troops home, do they seriously think that this would slake the thirst of these extremists, to say nothing of what it would do to the Iraqis?

Or if we scorned our American allies and told them to go and fight on their own, that somehow we would be spared? If we withdraw from Iraq, they will tell us to withdraw from Afghanistan and, after that, to withdraw from the Middle East completely and, after that, who knows? But one thing is for sure: they have faith in our weakness just as they have faith in their own religious fanaticism. And the weaker we are, the more they will come after us.

It is not easy to persuade people of all this; to say that terrorism and unstable states with WMD are just two sides of the same coin; to tell people what they don’t want to hear; that, in a world in which we in the West enjoy all the pleasures, profound and trivial, of modern existence, we are in grave danger.

There is a battle we have to fight, a struggle we have to win and it is happening now in Iraq.
Posted by: Sherry || 04/12/2004 1:00:36 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good post, Sherry! Tony is a wordsmith (wordsmythe?) of the first rank, but this was probably very easy for him as it was obviously both heartfelt and true to its very root. Kudos!

Now what's this kerfuffle about a "wobbly" Bush? Lol! Whomever falls for the notion that Dubya is wobbly must be skeered of the dark or somethin'! Hey, The Bush Doctrine and the decisions to invade Afgofuckistan and Iwakirack didn't come out of a Cracker Jacks box! Lol! Yer jes' funnin' with us, huh? Tony speeks reelly purty!
Posted by: .com || 04/12/2004 1:27 Comments || Top||

#2  It would really help if Bush would pen an op-ed piece like this. I'm pretty sure WaPo would run it. Even better, it'd force Kerry to respond, and I'd love to get Kerry on paper as to what his plans would be.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/12/2004 1:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Hey com .. Bush go wobbly? No, I was just remembering Margaret Thatcher telling W's dad before GWI, "Now George, don't go wobbly on us."

And Steve, I, too wish Kerry would in someway respond other than "Bush is all wrong." Something, other than words that tells our guys and gals fighting this thing, "well you're CIC is all wrong."

Understand, that if Kerry gets elected, we may have to instate the draft, so many guys and gals will not reup!
Posted by: Sherry || 04/12/2004 1:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Funny. Blair did not have a pair of balls or a stiffened spine when billy bin clinton was President. What did they do in '98 when Saddam sorely offended -- lob cruise missiles into Iraq proper. Blair is a man today owing to the MANLINESS of President Bush.
Posted by: Anonymous || 04/12/2004 2:24 Comments || Top||

#5  Tony could back his flowery rhetoric with an additional 30 or 40 thousand troops. Assuming, of course, he believes the words he pens to be true.
Posted by: Anonymous || 04/12/2004 2:30 Comments || Top||

#6  Thank you, Sherry. This is something that all free people should read.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/12/2004 2:39 Comments || Top||

#7  Whoa there hoss, Prez Bush don't know wobbly so he don't do wobbly.Chine
Posted by: Chiner || 04/12/2004 4:36 Comments || Top||

#8  Blair isn't talking to Bush--that would be like preaching to the choir--but rather he is talking to his Leftist "peacenik" critics at home like Clare Short, Robin Cook and "Red Ken."
Blair indeed so gets the WOT, but he doesn't get the inanity of other things like having Britain sign the EU Constitution which would, inter alia, prevent the UK from sending troops "unilaterally" to a war like that in Iraq which EU kingpins France and Germany opposed.
Posted by: Jen || 04/12/2004 5:11 Comments || Top||

#9  LOL! Jen, you just can't leave Aris alone can't you.
Posted by: Rafael || 04/12/2004 5:33 Comments || Top||

#10  I don't see Blair as keeping Bush from going wobbly; not at all. "Wobbly" is not the problem with Bush: the problem is he's one of the worst public speakers I've seen in all my 55 years. Bush has a terrible time conveying a coherent thought in impromptu speech; what often comes out is a just a rush of jumbled thoughts that scarcely make sense.

This is a real weakness, and it's a particularly troublesome one right now when we are at war not just abroad, but at home as well. Bush needs to do a far better job explaining what we are up to in Iraq and why it's important that we succeed, and he needs to do it often so people won't forget or get distracted by the continual flow of bullshit from the Left.
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/12/2004 6:04 Comments || Top||

#11  To each his own, Dave.
I find President Bush a wonderful and, most of the time, inspiring speaker.
I like his conviction, his plain talk and his clear intent.
Tony Blair can say things with that English eloquence and almost poetry that that country is famous for.

Rafael, is Katsaris an admirer of "Red Ken" and Clare Short?
That figures.
Posted by: Jen || 04/12/2004 6:09 Comments || Top||

#12  Jen: the key word in what I wrote above is "impromptu."

When Bush has had time to prepare and organize what he wants to say, as in a major address to the nation, he is absolutely outstanding; he is, in my opinion, among the very best of the best.

But he shares one characteristic with a lot of other competent, intelligent executives whose primary need or function is to get to the essence of one problem after another in rapid succession and act on them quickly and effectively: having taken in a large amount of information about a problem, analyzing it, and then arriving at a plan of action, the "raw data" are put away in a mental filing cabinet.

People whose responsibility is to act develop this mental habit out of necessity. People whose job is to think, or dream great dreams, or argue and debate, do not. Bill Clinton was a thinker and a debater. It has been said of him that he could argue a two-sided issue from all five sides, and do it all day long. But he could not act.

But the problem with that mental "filing cabinet" executives create is that it takes a bit of work to retrieve its contents, something that is very difficult to do in the heat of a debate or in an impromptu speech with dozens of microphones shoved in one's face.

Bush is a doer, not a debater, and at times like these our nations's very survival may hinge on whether or not he can get his ideas across eloquently. And that ain't easy for him.
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/12/2004 7:38 Comments || Top||

#13  I agree with Jen. That Bush is a "terrible speaker" is just over-hyped. While he may not be a Ronald Reagan, and he may not pump up the crowds - the context of his words, IMHO makes up for the sometimes lackluster delivery.
Posted by: B || 04/12/2004 7:44 Comments || Top||

#14  Seafarious here incognito...I am very concerned that AQ will attempt an attack in UK while Tony is visiting Bush. Every time Sharon visits the US, a bus in Jerusalem is boomed.
Posted by: Anonymous4118 || 04/12/2004 8:57 Comments || Top||

#15  I really do not care that GW is not rhetorical wizard! He is a President who believes in using the office of the Presidency to change things. His respect for the office directly contradicts the "boomers" in Europe and in the US. Blair is very articulate and for those who can't get out the bone in their throat concerning GW and get "it"...these "boomers" will lead this nation to the pits in no time. Blair is an honest broker from the opposite political party in great Britain...HELLO! This should cut through all the foolishness in the debate with the wild eyed leftist and Pat Buchanon's of the world.

Brien
Posted by: Brien || 04/12/2004 9:14 Comments || Top||

#16  Jen> "Rafael, is Katsaris an admirer of "Red Ken" and Clare Short?"

I don't even know who "Red Ken" and "Clare Short" are.

"would, inter alia, prevent the UK from sending troops "unilaterally" "

No, it wouldn't. You either lie or have simply fallen prey to the usual false anti-EU propaganda. Cheers.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 04/12/2004 9:33 Comments || Top||

#17  I agree that President Bush's set-piece speeches are very good, especially when he's talking about America's place in the world and the importance of promoting freedom. I also agree that contemporaneous remarks are not usually his strong suit. (As an exception, I point to his 9/14/01 remarks to the rescue workers at the WTC site.) Along these lines, here is an e-mail I sent to the White House today that I titled "Unsolicited Communications Advice from a Supporter":

I fully support the U.S. efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan (and hopefully in Syria and Iran), and I think the President and the U.S. military are doing a great job. I also wish the media would report more honestly on what's going on over there and on what's at stake. However, comments such as this from the President will not help (from CNN.com):

""It was a tough week last week, and my prayers and thoughts are with those who pay the ultimate price for our security," the president said."
The sentiment is appropriate, but to say "pay the ultimate price" puts a negative spin on what the soldiers and Marines are doing over there. It suggests that the soldiers and Marines are "PAYING the ultimate price" rather than "MAKING the ultimate sacrifice" or "GIVING their lives in defense of America and freedom." I know it's somewhat Clintonian, but tone does matter sometimes.
Posted by: Tibor || 04/12/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||

#18  By the way, there is zero chance that Bush will go wobbly on Iraq, IMO.
Posted by: Tibor || 04/12/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||

#19  Steve, Kerry has already stated his position on Iraq:

"Right now, what I would do differently is, I mean, look, I'm not the president, and I didn't create this mess so I don't want to acknowledge a mistake that I haven't made."

What part of that don't you understand? (And talk about a bad public speaker...)
Posted by: Matt || 04/12/2004 11:32 Comments || Top||

#20  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL || 04/12/2004 11:35 Comments || Top||

#21  Tony Blair: a great educator!

War On Terror 101 / Iraq: (notes)

1.) Our greatest threat, apart from the immediate one of terrorism, is our complacency.

2.) When some ascribe, as they do, the upsurge in Islamic extremism to (the war in ) Iraq, do they really forget who killed whom on 11 September 2001?

3.) When they call on us to bring the troops home, do they seriously think that this would slake the thirst of these extremists, to say nothing of what it would do to the Iraqis? Or if we scorned our American allies and told them to go and fight on their own, that somehow we would be spared?

4.) One thing is for sure: they (our enemies) have faith in our weakness just as they have faith in their own religious fanaticism. And the weaker we are, the more they will come after us.

5.) It is not easy to persuade people of all this . . . to tell people what they don’t want to hear; that, in a world in which we in the West enjoy all the pleasures, profound and trivial, of modern existence, we are in grave danger.




In view of the excellent points elucidated above (which should be reprinted in their entirely on the front-page of every newspaper in the civilized world) and in view of the incredible danger posed by lack of public access to credible and accurate information precisely because of the political agendas of the owners of the media sources, and in view of the fact that time is running out to make the case against Islamofacism, if this thread turns into an Aris-led diatribe, I'm going to barf.
Posted by: ex-lib || 04/12/2004 12:58 Comments || Top||

#22  I find it amusing, antiwar, that someone such as yourself, who is not a good thinker, by any means, actually deems yourself fit to be a critic of rhetorical abilities of United States Presidents.

But we are not surprised that you don't find Bush to be a good speaker. Especially since you consider the ultimate rhetorical argument to consist of one word,

"whatever".

I know it's difficult for you to follow Mr. Bush when he gets to word #2. But that's ok, hon. You'll get to the bigger words soon.
Posted by: B || 04/12/2004 13:08 Comments || Top||

#23  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL || 04/12/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#24  It is really quite hard to figure who backs what dog in this fight. Ya'll need excuse me fa' two things, the first and I am certain most egregious, is I am one of those"fith column" (whatever the hell that means) "libruls"(spoken like a dirty word), and the second, I agree with Blair, but prob'ly not fo' the reasons, ya'll think. Alert to security: infiltration breach?
Blair's piece and prose becomes a rorsarch of expectation I suppose, as to how there might be a concurrence of views?
What I do know is Iraq can not be allowed to become a failed state, and I don't believe libs yearn that result. Kerry despite the damning speculative rhetoric has never endorsed pulling forces out unilaterally, he's recommended shared responsibilities, that it seems Blair, on pricipal, also agrees with.
I think I read more in the piece than some do, in the language of abandoning the rhetoric of hate, for the dialogue of moderation. Whereas you all reduce the debate into an either /or proposition, if I'm reading your polit-speak correctly.
There has to be an ample incentive and mechanisms in place, for moderate Arabs to weather the radicals and shun the humiliations of being seen as complicit with the occupation. Those mechanisms need to be shown as a moderates' victory over both the fanatics and the coalition's authority, for it to be viewed by the common Iraqis as a viable alternative to either wholesale capitulation or jihadist resistance.
This doesn't seem terribly complicated by even one un-versed in the mechanisms of intrigue, give Sistani a stunning victory over the Americans, one seen as embarrassing to Americans, however one might be engineered, and you leave the radical clerics recruitments to violence null and void, or at the very least defused . The shutdown of the paper was the catylist for this breach and whoever's brilliant idea that was, needs be sent to the back of the tactical bus.
Final note on Blair keeping Bush from going off "wobbly" , somone said it was Bush Manliness that bolters Blair. Bush Manliness?
What a joke!!
He doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to testify to the 9-11 commisioners without professional flak Cheney to "hod his po wido hand."
What, Jamie Gorelick (pun intended) might ask him a *hard* question?
One must imagine those gonads diminuitively. And this passes as Manliness?

Posted by: Anonymous4119 || 04/12/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#25  the issue is not about speaking abilities but about finishing a war started in 1979.

it is very easy figue out who backs what dog in this fight. iran is the mover and shacker here.

He doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to testify to the 9-11 commisioners
Annonymous4119 - who the hell are you? Tell me why a sitting pres should be forced to testify publically? Have you heard anything about seperation and executive privalege? Your an ingrate - your hatred of Bush clouds your reasoning. Tell why doesn't clinton testify publically (the main reason for 9-11)? Do you really understand about the 9-11 commision? The only time someone has to publically testify is when two witnesses contradicts each other in private. That dumbass clarke did not give a 100% accruate account which contradicted Rice's private testimony. Clarke has been shown as not giving a throughly accruate account and it seems to be financially motivate!

Just remember if the west is left to people like anitwar or this anonymous4119 idiot (very typical of a leftwinger with a narrow view) we are all doomed. This war is not about Bush or Clinton, we did not ask for this war and we should not change 50 years of policy because this war was brought upon us. We need to procecute this war all the way to tehran and reduce the terrorist threat to a bunch of ragheads with no head.
Posted by: Dan || 04/12/2004 13:49 Comments || Top||

#26  Anonymous4119:

1) The push for Bush to testify to the commission is a smokescreen, set up to create accusations that help the democratic party (i.e. Bush is "on trial" for 911! Oooh. Aaaah. Conspiracy!). It's an absolutely brilliant piece of "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" strategy, on their part. Since I used to be a lib Dem, I know from experience that that's all it is--and it's a classic. Unhappily, it's very much like what the terrorist extremists do now (or what Hitler--I'm serious--did in his day) -- keep telling the lie long enough, and people will believe it. Standard policy. The Dems should try to win based on arguments of merit.

2) The closing of the paper (because of constant incitements toward violence against coalition troops) wasn't a catalyst for the "breach" (violence) as you call it--they were headed that way anyway, and forcing their hand simply gave us the initiative. (Besides, the Iranians are getting their hands in the soup to protect their mullah-state--they don't want to be next, and the students in Iran are getting restless.)

3) The bad guys in Iraq won't stop if Sistani is victorious. Allowing an early "coup" is a very bad idea--the opposition will use it to deligitimize Sistani completely. The radical elements will not be "null," "void," or "defused." A legitmate election must occur, backed by world opinion, for there to be even the slightest chance of stabilty. I have found libs love the "quick fix," "try it and see" approach to complex problems.

4) There is no "rhetoric of hate" except on the side of terror. (Your descriptive that there is somehow a "rhetoric of hate" from the present adminstration demonstrates lib irrationality at it's best.)

5) There are ample incentives for Iraqi moderates to "weather the radicals" and shun the view of cooperating with "occupation" forces, but patience is needed to shore up what would be an untried, fledgling democracy. The terrorists and totalitarian interests are playing on the imperative of time, and are trying to incite "revolution" to stop democracy.

6) "What I do know is Iraq cannot be allowed to become a failed state." You are ahead of many of your "like-minded" liberal nay-sayers, on that, and I congratulate you. But I wonder if you realize that Iraq cannot afford to become a social "experiment"--it is an either/or situation, and stability through force must be achieved, or there will be no stability.

7) You are not informed if you seriously think Kerry offers a viable solution, or if you believe he can handle the WOT. I refer you to the Dem-run Vietnam War, and his personal failures in that war, for reference, if you cannot piece through his current double-speak. He also has NEVER supported a strong defense, and hasn't said he's changed his mind now, or given explantation as to why he didn't before. A strong defense is necessary to protect ourselves against Islamic extremism.

8) I have found it is the libs that generally don't have the "intestinal fortitude" for the truth, and that they invent an enemy, where none exists, in order to "feel" better in one way or another. (see above--answer)

Bottom line: if you agree with Tony, you agree with GWB, on the WOT.

Posted by: ex-lib || 04/12/2004 14:19 Comments || Top||

#27  I love the optimism of the "kerry hasn't said he would pull out the troops".

BTW, would you please give me your bank account and cc number? I've got a deal for you. Oh sure, you have ever reason to believe that I'll rip you off, but I've never said that I would do that, now have I???

So..please there is absolutely no reason that you should not send me your bank account number immediately.

Thanks.
Posted by: B || 04/12/2004 14:31 Comments || Top||

#28  im feeling your pane Antiwuz, nodoby hear like me either.
if i had my bong i'd give you a hit
Posted by: HalfEmpty || 04/12/2004 16:34 Comments || Top||

#29  To Anonymous4119: Prominent Democrats campaigning on behalf of Kerry are saying he'll "bring the boys home." (For example: Ted Kennedy). I have not heard any disavowals of Kennedy from the Kerry campaign. It sounds like "pulling out the troops" to me.
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 04/12/2004 19:00 Comments || Top||

#30  Katsaris, you're a liar and a dissembler.
I don't know whether you're Greek or where you're actually posting from, but too often you take the stance of being for the IslamoFacists and certainly you always come down against the United States.
I most certainly have not fallen for "anti-EU" propaganda.
The EU is a Socialist nightmare and will be the end of Western Europe.
Tony Blair will be voted out on the issue of the EU referendum.
The majority of the British people are against the UK signing the EU Constitution and against chucking the British pound for the EUro.
Should they sign the EU Constitution, Britain would be bound to honor Common EU foreign and defense policy, under the newly constituted EU Army that Chirac, Schroeder and Blair have discussed.
Chirac and De Vulpine know well that this would forbid our Coalition allies like Britain, Italy and Poland to deploy their own troops unilaterally and that is a large reason they are so keen on it.
In the eyes of the Franco-German Axis, the whole purpose of a French-German led EU is to thwart US power.
(Where a unified EU with an army will leave NATO is anyone's guess. Chirac and Schroeder say that nothing will change, but I know they're lying.)
As you, too, are pretty keen on thwarting US power yourself, I'd say that it's you, Katsaris, who have fallen for the pro-EU propaganda perhaps in the vain hope that full EU membership will revive the moribund Greek economy.
Full EU membership is wrong for Britain, however and Blair will go down to Howard and the Tories should he keep trying to ram it through Parliament.
Posted by: Jen || 04/12/2004 19:55 Comments || Top||

#31  "Katsaris, you're a liar and a dissembler."

Jen, are you sure you are not .com? You are as prone to paranoid delusions as he is. And like he did yesterday, when caught at an error, instead of accepting it when corrected you choose to refuse correction and thus turn your possibly genuine mistake into a LIE, and also accuse *me* of lying instead.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

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"under the newly constituted EU Army that Chirac, Schroeder and Blair have discussed"

You mean the newly constituted EU Army that isn't actually mentioned anywhere in the constitution?

"too often you take the stance of being for the IslamoFacist"

I dare you to name even one time I supported the Islamofascists. I double-dog-dare you.

You moronic liar and slanderous freak of nature. You dare accuse *me* of supporting the Islamofascists?

"certainly you *always* come down against the United States"

Oh, really? How is that? Because I don't accept that invading Iraq was a good idea? Oh, yeah I'm *always* coming down against the United States. I'm always coming down against Greece also. And against the UK. And against Russia. And against Iran and Syria.

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As for the rest of your babble it's quite irrelevant and repetitious. Yeah, yeah, the EU is the tool of the devil, etc, etc, Britain is better out than in, etc, etc.

How many times do I need to repeat that I would also be quite glad to see the UK leave the union? Yes, the majority of the British people are against this and that and the other. DID I EVER SAY I WANTED THE UK IN THE UNION?

Fuck you, Jen! You've slandered and you've slandered and you've kept on slandering. If you don't show me a single post where I defended the Islamofascists, accept your name "slanderer Jen" from now on.

You moron.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 04/12/2004 21:28 Comments || Top||

#32  Not a slanderer, just calling a spade a spade.
You attack each post here at Rantburg with so much wishy-washy quasi-Communist garbage that has obviously become a veritable tossed salad of crack-pot theories, ideas and ideology in your cranium that you must, indeed, be an actual EU Parliamentary representative!
God knows what you're "for," but we here at RB know you're against everything and you remind us of that on each and every post.
While discussion is encouraged here, what you consider "reasoned discourse" is bawling everyone out--just like you just did me--and reminding us how full of shit we are here in the United States (where I dare say you reside also).
Most of here are pro-Bush and pro-USA and everything that that stands for, including the rightness of Operation Iraqi Freedom.
The US took 18 months to "rush to war" in Iraq: it was called for by the President and voted on by the Congress long before a bullet was fired.
Why you insist on posting your ravings here, I have no idea, except to be an irritant or perhaps you're a paid seminar poster for the Marxists.
(Your raves and rants do have the inscrutability of Das Kapital or the confessions of Zanoviev and Kamenev before they were executed in the Lubiyanka.)
I dare say there are many more blogs on the Left where you would be among friends and they might be able to figure out what the hell you're ranting about--you're all over the place about the war, the EU, events in Europe, ad nauseum.
Meaningful "discussion" is meaninglesss with an insane troll like you who has just enough knowledge to be dangerous and too much of a "Greek" temper to engage in the exchange of real ideas and I, for one, am through with you.
Posted by: Jen || 04/12/2004 22:08 Comments || Top||

#33  When you are so delusional as to keep on thinking that for some reason I'm residing in the US, (didn't you once imply that I was residing in Russia btw?) all evidence that I'm residing in Greece to the contrary, then what exactly is the point of speaking further? My main email account is that of a greek mail provider. My Usenet posts show that my IP originates in Greece. I could give you my postgrad university account email (grad0473@di.uoa.gr), in the University of Athens. I could show you photos and even videoclips. If nothing else, doesn't it tell you anything that I know even minutia of Greek politics and pretty much nothing about American internal politics?

It probably wouldn't convince a fanatic like yourself. You are an expert in constructing your own fictions.

Most of you people, with few exceptions, use pseudonyms. I'm one of the very few people here who use his real name. Exactly because I don't like the idea of people pretending someone they aren't. No offense to the rest of you who use pseudonyms, since I also understand the desire for privacy, but the point remains that I'm Aris Katsaris, and Aris Katsaris I remain throughout.

I think that your real problem, Jen, is that you can't withstand that much honesty. You want to believe that every person that disagrees with you is a lying deceiver. You can't even *conceive* that someone may think that invading Iraq was a fool's game and nonetheless still hope that you be successful there, no matter how few chances for that exist.

"I dare say there are many more blogs on the Left where you would be among friends".

Perhaps I would be, though I'd probably find few people in leftist blogs supporting invasions of Syria. But more importantly, I don't visit Rantburg in order to find friends, nor in order to join some wank-circle where everyone pats everyone else on the back. I joined it because so far it's the most convenient collection of "War on Terror" newsitems I've found.

USA stands for the rightness of Operation Iraqi Freedom? I must have missed the reference to Operation Iraqi Freedom in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution, the two documents I thought defined what USA stood for.

And you've still not found a single post of mine where I defended Islamofascists, you bastard liar and slanderer.

Not sure what your reference to "rush to war" is about, but I very much doubt that I ever used that expression. My guess is that it's yet another of your delusions.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 04/13/2004 8:50 Comments || Top||

#34  Yeah, Aris doesn't back the Islamists. He backs the French Imperialists!
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/13/2004 9:47 Comments || Top||

#35  Jennifer GWB is not a good speaker by any means.
Posted by: Antiwar || 04/12/2004 11:35 Comments || Top||

#36  B I am by no means the only person who knows this. There is a website called Dubyaspeak.com you might want to look at it. What does B stand for? Bullshitter?
Posted by: Antiwar || 04/12/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Chinese hostages freed
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Home Front: Culture Wars
Andy Rooney denigrates troops as he attacks Bush
Heroes don't come wholesale
By Andy Rooney
Most of the reporting from Iraq is about death and destruction. We don't learn much about what our soldiers in Iraq are thinking or doing. There's no Ernie Pyle to tell us and, if there were, the military would make it difficult or impossible for him to let us know.
I'm not too sure about that, Andy. The idea of embedded reporters goes back to Ernie Pyle. But since the action's not been hot and heavy until lately, they're gone. Now we're stuck mostly with the same old hacks sitting around the bar in hotels and retyping press releases. I don't think the fault lies with the military...
It would be interesting to have a reporter ask a group of our soldiers in Iraq to answer five questions and see the results:
1. Do you think your country did the right thing sending you into Iraq?
Probably there's a range of opinion on this, but my guess is that the majority would say "yes."
2. Are you doing what America set out to do to make Iraq a democracy, or have we failed so badly that we should pack up and get out before more of you are killed?
We can't pack up and get out. If we do, Iraq becomes a stew, with corpse counts higher than anything we've seen to date, and eventually breaks down into at least three separate countries that don't like each other. There's no liberal democracy introduced into the Arab world, and there's no progress made in the war on terror. Further, we'll have demonstrated that we can be counted on to cut and run — like you want to do, Andy — and can therefore be dismissed as an influence in the international arena.
3. Do the orders you get handed down from one headquarters to another, all far removed from the fighting, seem sensible, or do you think our highest command is out of touch with the reality of your situation?
There's always a disconnect between orders "from on high" and orders as interpreted in the field. That's a problem that was a lot more pronounced back in your day, though, Andy. Even by my day, it had improved, and today's internet-ready forces make the front end-back end coordination much more coherent. So I think that horse is dead. Now, does the guy in the saddle in the turret see the strategic picture? Probably not. Does the military continue to hurry up and wait? Absolutely. The mechanics of moving large numbers of men and machines, keeping them supplied, and attending to their physical needs is all pretty complicated and it can't be accomplished gracefully. On the other hand, the military handles it a lot better than your friendly neighborhood local government in most cases. If you don't believe that, go get in line to get medical assistance for an aged parent... Oh. Sorry. I forgot. You are an aged parent.
4. If you could have a medal or a trip home, which would you take?
Probably the trip home. If I could have a medal or get laid, I'd rather get laid. If I could have a medal or a cup of coffee, I'd take the cup of coffee. But if I could have all three and a medal, too, I'd take the medal. How about you?
5. Are you encouraged by all the talk back home about how brave you are and how everyone supports you?
If I was still in the military, I'd probably be ignoring most of that and concentrating on what I was doing. I think that's what most people in uniform actually do.
Treating soldiers fighting their war as brave heroes is an old civilian trick designed to keep the soldiers at it. But you can be sure our soldiers in Iraq are not all brave heroes gladly risking their lives for us sitting comfortably back here at home.
Probably not, though most are on to the tricks of old civilians by now. Only dumbasses gladly risk their lives. Lives are precious to us non-turban wearers. In some instances it's a necessary thing, though. Without the guys potting turbans in Fallujah, we stand a chance of losing this war, which is as serious as any we've ever fought. Not being 185 years old, like you, Andy, I worry about my children's and grandchildren's future. I don't want them to have to bow down toward Mecca five times a day. I don't want mullahs telling them what position to pee in. I don't want them to adopt Arab culture and forget all the magnificent civilization we've inherited from Europe, who often act like they don't need it anymore. It's not a matter of "glad." It's a matter of "must." Is your memory starting to go, Andy? Have you forgotten that the guys 60 years ago weren't "glad" to be blown to shreds at Anzio or Tarawa? They "had" to do it, so, being men, they did it. Being men (and today, women) our troops in Iraq are doing it, continuing the tradition of the men of 60 years ago.
Our soldiers in Iraq are people, young men and women, and they behave like people — sometimes good and sometimes bad, sometimes brave, sometimes fearful. It's disingenuous of the rest of us to encourage them to fight this war by idolizing them. We pin medals on their chests to keep them going.
Medals are signs of recognition for achievement. What've you got against medals, Andy? It doesn't hurt you for a young man or woman to be recognized for bravery or accomplishment or, in the case of the Purple Heart, for wounds received.
We speak of them as if they volunteered to risk their lives to save ours but there isn't much voluntary about what most of them have done. A relatively small number are professional soldiers. During the last few years, when millions of jobs disappeared, many young people, desperate for some income, enlisted in the Army.
They enlisted to do a job. When I enlisted, 40 years ago, I enlisted to do a job. I went into the Army for two reasons: I couldn't afford to go to college, and I wanted to serve my country. Which was the greater driver? I still can't tell you. I suspect, though, that if I'd been able to afford to go to college, I'd have gone, then gone into the Army. You're assuming that the people who join up aren't doing it because they want to serve their country, and the Army (and other services, of course) is assuming they are.
About 40 percent of our soldiers in Iraq enlisted in the National Guard or the Army Reserve to pick up some extra money and never thought they'd be called on to fight. They want to come home.
When my Dad was at St. Lo, during the Battle of the Bulge, he wanted to come home, too. In my travels around Vietnam, there were lots of times when I wanted to come home. There were times when I wanted a cold beer, too. But adults wait until the things they want are available.
One indication that not all soldiers in Iraq are happy warriors is the report recently released by the Army showing that 23 of them committed suicide there last year. This is a dismaying figure.
It's also actually lower than the per capita national suicide rate...
If 22 young men and one woman killed themselves because they couldn't take it, think how many more are desperately unhappy but unwilling to die. We must support our soldiers in Iraq because it's our fault they're risking their lives there. However, we should not bestow the mantle of heroism on all of them for simply being where we sent them. Most are victims, not heroes.
I don't confuse the quiet heroism of men and women doing what must be done, whether they feel like doing it or not, with movie heroics, though I've seen actions by young men who were scared pissless that rival things I've seen in the movies. I bestow the mantle of heroism on anybody who goes into the military — as long as they adhere to the contract. Whether infantry or artillery, signals or rear-area pencil pushers, wearing the uniform makes you part of the Army, or the Marines, or the Air Force or the Navy. I have orders of magnitude more respect for the young men and women in uniform than I do for the tough guys strutting around the malls on Friday nights. Are there some deserving of more admiration than others? You betcha. The infantry, ready to go kick the snot out of the Bad Guys, up close and personal, is top of the list, followed closely by the guys in the tanks and the artillerymen — 105 shells are heavy. The sigs guys, up there laying line and setting up antennas in support of the combat arms, the combat engineers, the ordnance disposal guys, the truck drivers who bring the fuel and the ammo to the grunts up front, the rotorheads flying support — I really resent having you denigrate their efforts, Andy. What the hell right do you have to question their motives? Because they're human and they get scared? Because they overcome it and get on with what they signed up to do?
America's intentions are honorable. I believe that and we must find a way of making the rest of the world believe it. We want to do the right thing. We care about the rest of the world. President Bush's intentions were honorable when he took us into Iraq. They were not well thought out but honorable.
It's my opinion, which is just as valid as yours, that Mr. Bush's plans were well thought out before we went in. It's my opinion that much of the thinking and planning that's gone into the war on terror has been brilliant. It's also my opinion that we're at war with a vicious and tenacious enemy, that'll do everything it can to keep us from achieving our objectives, which include a better life for Arabs and Muslims as a side benefit of protecting and preserving our own civilization, culture, and heritage.
President Bush's determination to make the evidence fit the action he took, which it does not, has made things look worse. We pay lip service to the virtues of openness and honesty, but for some reason we too often act as though there was a better way of handling a bad situation than by being absolutely open and honest.
I've been pretty open and honest in interpreting the truth as I see it, Andy. Can you handle it?
Old civilian trick, eh? Yet one more reason not to watch 60 Minutes.
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#1  one word:
senile
Posted by: B || 04/12/2004 16:38 Comments || Top||

#2  6. Will Andy Rooney disregard the answers he doesn't like?
Posted by: Rafael || 04/12/2004 16:39 Comments || Top||

#3  A medal or a trip home? WTF? The military are there for their nation's security, not for medals.
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/12/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Is it wrong to kick an old fuckhead's ass?
Posted by: gawdamman || 04/12/2004 16:46 Comments || Top||

#5  #4 gawdamman: Not at all in this case, since he's pretty much begging for it. So, by all means, be my guest. Here's some brass knuckles. Give the bastard a shot in the kidneys for me will ya? What an asshat.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 04/12/2004 16:52 Comments || Top||

#6  That's just evil.
Posted by: ex-lib || 04/12/2004 16:52 Comments || Top||

#7  I mean what Andy Rooney's doing, of course. Pure-form liberal politics. Simply disgusting. Compare with Tony Blair's speech posted today.
Posted by: ex-lib || 04/12/2004 16:54 Comments || Top||

#8  What a fuckhead. These 5 questions have been answered again and again and again in blogs and emails everywhere. They just get ignored by this fuckhead because they dont happen to agree with the liberal's mindset.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/12/2004 16:57 Comments || Top||

#9  Andy Rooney was, what, 700 years old when he got his gig on "60 Senile Minutes"? Isn't it time for someone to put together a band of brave adventurers to finally kill that lich?

(Which is nastier -- the Hand of Vecna, or the Hand of Rooney?)
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/12/2004 17:00 Comments || Top||

#10  Rooney forgot to take his Paxil. Every one of the leftist toadys like him should be forced to watch their words as they are gleefully reported on Al-Jazeera, Iranian TV, and the other mouthpieces of the virgin-seeker squads. Then they should have to answer: How many of our soldiers have lost their lives because YOU are giving aid and comfort to our enemies by talking like you do?
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/12/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#11  6) Would you rather watch snow or 60 minutes?
I'll take the snow! I stopped watching that show about 5 years ago and haven't missed it!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 04/12/2004 17:09 Comments || Top||

#12  im thought he died. he was purdy funy in mad mad mad mad mad mad world.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/12/2004 17:15 Comments || Top||

#13  Here are my five questions for Andy Rooney:

1. Did you miss the embeds during the war?
2. Do you believe they were censored?
3. Does you think that the military shut down that program? Note - it is my understanding that there are still embeds but the networks have not been interested in participating with Kobe-gate, MJ's antics on the SUV's and the Peterson case. Somebody has been providing posts from a journalist that is still on-assignment as anbed.
4. Wasn't Ernie Pyle actually in the army when he did his best work?
5. Didn't 60 Minutes hire you for your expertise in amusing viewers with light-heartedly banter and journalistic navel-gazing?
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/12/2004 17:21 Comments || Top||

#14  Pyle was a civilian. He just identified with the grunts, rather than hanging around the bar at the closest hotel. Bill Mauldin was in the Army when he did his best work.
Posted by: Fred || 04/12/2004 17:28 Comments || Top||

#15  Senile minutes...heh, heh.

How about:

Can't Get Over the 60's Minutes

or...

For the over 60's Minutes


Posted by: B || 04/12/2004 17:44 Comments || Top||

#16  "Do the orders you get handed down from one headquarters to another, all far removed from the fighting, seem sensible..."

From everything I've read General Mattis of the Marines and the Marine regimental and battalion commanders are closer to the fighting than Andy's right eyebrow is to his left (and that's pretty close.)
Posted by: Matt || 04/12/2004 17:53 Comments || Top||

#17  A bitter, old man who is too stupid to see or care that he is a bitter, old man.
Posted by: anymouse || 04/12/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||

#18  Hey! Mr. Rooney! Over here!!!!
*waving frantic hands*
Two words, Mr. Rooney--- two little words!
VOLUNTEER FORCE!!! I'll say them slowly, so you can watch my lips--- VOL---UN---TEER FOO--RCE!
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 04/12/2004 17:58 Comments || Top||

#19  A medal or a trip home? WTF? The military are there for their nation's security, not for medals.

Unless your J Fking Kerry, then you would want to get out early to run for office so you can trash your fellow vets, dishonor your flag and country.
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 04/12/2004 18:07 Comments || Top||

#20  In Andy's book about his time in WWII as a war correspondent for Stars and Stripes, he talks about the medals he received.

Ask a guy in the 8th Air Force the question about medals, and I am sure they would have taken the trip home.

My question for him is how would he compare the air gunners he knew in that war with their grandsons now?

There are many questions that one could ask the old coot. That is what I would ask him.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1586481592/qid=1081809303/sr=8-3/ref=pd_ka_3/104-3514241-2720741?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Posted by: penguin || 04/12/2004 18:37 Comments || Top||

#21  Here's what I think about this bitter, twisted old fruit -- he knows he's ancient and will only have the opportunity to spout his gibberish for a few more years at most. As a result, he is going to spew as much lefty bile as possible in his remaining time on air. If CBS were to fire him (fat chance), someone would likely give him the opportunity to blast them. It's all about hanging on in (un)quiet desperation.
Posted by: Tibor || 04/12/2004 18:43 Comments || Top||

#22  If you could have a medal or a trip home, which would you take?

I wouldn't leave in the thick of battle, letting someone take my place. But...that's just me.
Posted by: Rafael || 04/12/2004 18:54 Comments || Top||

#23  Does anybody even watch that old fool any more? His schtick got old 20 years ago.

As for 60 Minutes, I haven't trusted (or watched) that POS since the Westmoreland incident. And that goes double after the Alar incident.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/12/2004 18:55 Comments || Top||

#24  #19 A medal or a trip home? WTF? The military are there for their nation's security, not for medals.

If given the medal or trip home offer, Kerry would answer, "yes."
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/12/2004 18:58 Comments || Top||

#25  "...America's intentions are honorable. I believe that and we must find a way of making the rest of the world believe it..."

A good start would be for vile anti-American Bush-haters to end the lies repeated and echoed in the media, and finally enough already with the gratuitous, "...of course I support our troops, but..."
Posted by: Hyper || 04/12/2004 20:08 Comments || Top||

#26  Bravo, Fred. File this one in the Classics just to keep your response to Andy around for the rest of us.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/12/2004 23:48 Comments || Top||

#27  Favorite Line:
"If I could have a medal or get laid, I'd rather get laid. If I could have a medal or a cup of coffee, I'd take the cup of coffee. But if I could have all three and a medal, too, I'd take the medal. How about you?"

Excellent rebuttal. Thanks for the laughs at Rooney's expense.
Posted by: Captain Wrath || 04/14/2004 7:00 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Muslims are Islamism’s first victims, says Dr Younus Sheikh
Dr Muhammad Younus Sheikh, who spent several years in the death cell in Rawalpindi on a trumped up blasphemy charge, has told the annual meeting of the UN Commission on Human Rights which is meeting in Geneva, that the first victims of Islamism are Muslims.
But the second victims are close behind...
Dr Sheikh, who was freed after intense international pressure and a growing lobby for his release at home, and who has since been given political refuge in Switzerland, said “in a novel and unethical way, Pakistani Mullahs have started abusing the dreadful Islamic blasphemy laws to terrorise liberal and moderate Muslims.” He said he was a Pakistani doctor, a physiologist, a patriotic and law-abiding citizen, and a Muslim by birth. He trained as a surgeon and worked for some years in the United Kingdom but gave up his job in the UK to return to Pakistan to serve the people of his country. He shared with the Commission his experience, providing a detailed account of how he was set up, and the manner in which after some summary court hearings he was sentenced to death. He said after his death sentence, for the next two years, he was held in solitary confinement in a very small death cell in the Central Jail, Rawalpindi, “a dark and dirty death cell with unbearable, stinking and distasteful food. There was no facility for walking or exercise, and I was without books, newspapers, medication or treatment for my worsening diabetes. I remained constantly under threat of murder by Islamic fundamentalist inmates in jail for murder and gang rape, and by some religiously-minded prison warders.”

DR Sheikh told the Commission, “I feel I have been a victim of Islamic Mullah terrorism through he abuse of the state apparatus and the civil law. My first trial was a show trial almost reminiscent of the trials and tortures of the infamous Spanish inquisition, and the trials and burning of European women as witches. After my acquittal and release, I wanted to stay in my country with my family and friends but instead I found myself under a fatwa by the same mullahs that I should be killed. I had to say goodbye to my loved ones and flee to Europe for my safety. “ He expressed his thanks to those international organisations and foreign legislators that had helped him obtain his release. Dr Sheikh pointed out that “unfortunately” the Pakistani Penal Code provides little guidance as to what constitutes blasphemy. The law is vague and the term is undefined. In view of the mandatory death penalty for the offence this would seem to be an important oversight. The law is a relic of 1860 British colonial criminal law, but was modified in 1926 again under the British, then in 1986 by General Zia-ul-Haq to bring it more strictly in line with the Sharia, and finally in 1992 when the death penalty was made mandatory “under the democratically-elected Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.” Whereas the original law had been even-handed and applied equally to all religions, under the revised law the death penalty applies only to blasphemy against Islam. More than 100 victims are currently in jail awaiting trial, 15 of whom face the death penalty.

Dr Sheikh told the Commission, “The blasphemy law has brought shame on Pakistan. The law itself is unjust and inequitable, the offence it treats is poorly defined and open to abuse, and its operation has been widely misused and abused. Since the introduction of Sharia law in Pakistan in 1986, the blasphemy law has been used on hundreds of occasions by fundamentalists to silence moderate opponents, to intimidate non-Muslims and to settle personal scores. While praising President General Pervez Musharraf for his liberal and secular steps, and for his courageous fight against Islamic jihadi terrorism, I appeal to him to curb this menace of Islamic Mullah terrorism and the abuse of Pakistani Islamic blasphemy laws.” He urged the Commission to press the Pakistan government to urgently review the cases of all those currently charged or convicted of blasphemy and awaiting execution, including an urgent judicial review of all cases currently sub-judice; immediately review the application of the blasphemy law and to introduce safeguards against its abuse; to replace the blasphemy law by laws which respect the human rights of individuals in conformity with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to which Pakistan is a signatory; and to compensate the victims of these unjust and iniquitous laws and to punish the false accusers and untruthful witnesses.
Nothing like this is going to happen when the Caliphate takes over, of course...
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#1  Dr Sheikh told the Commission, “The blasphemy law has brought shame on Pakistan. The law itself is unjust and inequitable, the offence it treats is poorly defined and open to abuse, and its operation has been widely misused and abused. Since the introduction of Sharia law in Pakistan in 1986, the blasphemy law has been used on hundreds of occasions by fundamentalists to silence moderate opponents, to intimidate non-Muslims and to settle personal scores."

Welcome to Sharia! This is what happens when a group of power-hungry nutters decide to use religion to advance their grab for power. Now they have to out-holy each other.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/12/2004 12:12 Comments || Top||

#2 
I remained constantly under threat of murder by Islamic fundamentalist inmates in jail for murder and gang rape,

Yeah, but at least they didn't blaspheme Alan.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/12/2004 12:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Muslims are Islamism's first victims . . . no wonder they have a victim complex! Now if they could only start blaming their holy men instead of us poor Americans . . .
Posted by: The Doctor || 04/12/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#4  Soon they will begin to see that it is not our intention to be their 2nd victims.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/12/2004 19:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Just wait till Ashcroft and co. tighten their theocratic hold on the DOJ "Christians are the first victims of Evangelicals" sez the "liberal" Episcopalian Bishop of NYC!
Posted by: Not Mike Moore || 04/13/2004 0:56 Comments || Top||

#6  LOL NMM! On Message!
Posted by: Shipman || 04/13/2004 6:58 Comments || Top||


Two injured in fight over religion
A woman and a man were injured in a dispute reportedly because of a religious issue in Pind Batth in Manga Mandi police precincts on Sunday. Muhammad Arif, the son of the injured woman, told Daily Times outside Mayo Hospital that his and his uncle’s families were Christians. He said they converted to Islam a few months ago, but his uncle Ahmad (earlier Ahmed Masih) and his family reconverted to Christianity two weeks ago. “They also started asking me and my family to convert but we refused,” said Mr Arif. “On this, my uncle and our Christian neighbours threatened us,” he added. He said Mr Ahmed and his accomplices came to their home on Sunday and again placed their demand. “On our refusal, they got furious and broke the legs and arms of my mother, Rashida, with batons. I opened fired at them with my gun and injured my uncle while his accomplices fled,” said Mr Arif.
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#1  im thinking it time for family counsling.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/12/2004 13:36 Comments || Top||

#2  This seems much more in line with Islamic tactics than Christian . . . maybe it's just my infidel bias that's keeping me from understanding that members of the Religion of Peace (TM) would never do this . . .
Posted by: The Doctor || 04/12/2004 14:06 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm starting to think it's something in the water...
Posted by: Fred || 04/12/2004 14:38 Comments || Top||

#4  My Hed hurts.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/12/2004 18:15 Comments || Top||


Dire Revenge™ claims eight in Ranipur
Gunmen seeking revenge for a murdered relative shot and killed seven rival tribesmen in the interior of Sindh on Sunday, police said. The attack came after men shot and killed Abdul Qadir Junejo, a tribal elder in Ranipur, a village about 450 kilometers east of Karachi, said Imdad Hussain Solangi, a local police official. Junejo’s relatives suspected seven Watani tribesmen of the killing and retaliated by shooting them dead as they worked their fields harvesting wheat, Solangi said. The suspected killers fled and no arrests were made, he said.
I suspect there won't be, either...
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