Hi there, !
Today Wed 08/27/2014 Tue 08/26/2014 Mon 08/25/2014 Sun 08/24/2014 Sat 08/23/2014 Fri 08/22/2014 Thu 08/21/2014 Archives
Rantburg
533573 articles and 1861532 comments are archived on Rantburg.

Today: 74 articles and 139 comments as of 4:15.
Post a news link    Post your own article   
Area: WoT Operations    WoT Background    Non-WoT           
Boko Haram Executes Two People For Smoking Cigarettes
Today's Headlines
Headline Comments [Views]
Page 4: Opinion
5 22:42 borgboy [1] 
1 17:57 Shipman [] 
2 12:15 charger [1] 
7 16:01 Besoeker [1] 
0 [] 
0 [9] 
0 [11] 
0 [8] 
20 22:22 Frank G [5] 
Page 1: WoT Operations
10 19:09 SteveS [3]
0 []
0 []
6 14:28 Mike Kozlowski [3]
0 [1]
0 []
0 [2]
2 21:57 BigEdLB [3]
1 21:58 BigEdLB [5]
0 [5]
0 [5]
0 [1]
0 [2]
0 [1]
0 [2]
1 09:36 Frank G [3]
6 20:52 Pappy [2]
1 06:49 lord garth [4]
0 [1]
8 17:49 Deacon Blues []
0 []
0 [6]
1 01:29 imoyaro [7]
0 [10]
0 [6]
0 [1]
7 13:11 49 Pan [5]
Page 2: WoT Background
4 23:46 genbara11 [9]
0 [6]
2 20:06 Procopius2k [7]
0 [2]
3 08:53 JohnQC [1]
0 [1]
0 []
0 [4]
0 [3]
0 [3]
0 [1]
0 [1]
0 [5]
2 19:15 AlanC [5]
0 [7]
0 [3]
0 [10]
0 [6]
0 []
3 11:09 g(r)omgoru [1]
0 [2]
0 [2]
1 15:29 JohnQC [4]
2 14:41 Pappy []
6 22:53 JosephMendiola [3]
1 05:56 trailing wife []
4 11:00 Pappy []
Page 3: Non-WoT
7 20:58 Pappy [4]
6 20:50 Bright Pebbles [4]
0 [1]
3 08:53 ed in texas [3]
4 09:05 JohnQC [2]
2 04:31 g(r)omgoru [1]
1 01:04 Whavitle Gurly-Brown3188 [6]
5 23:21 gorb [2]
2 10:41 Ho Chi Pheart7925 [2]
2 10:28 Frank G []
1 00:45 Whavitle Gurly-Brown3188 []
Europe
The Failure of the E.U.
The European Union has long excited American progressives, who want the United States to model itself after the European body. As each year passes, it has become difficult to understand this admiration. These days the E.U. acts more and more like a bloated bureaucracy staffed with elites armed with intrusive regulatory power and insulated from citizen accountability.
IMO, that's why American progressives admire it and want to emulate it.
...The problem with the E.U. is that it was, at its founding, grounded in false assumptions about human nature and the role of the nation in creating a people's identity. These assumptions have for 200 years been accepted as facts, when actually they are questionable ideas challenged by history.

The E.U. is just the latest example of the powerful Enlightenment idea that human nature and civilization, through the expansion of scientific knowledge, are progressing away from the cruelty, oppression, and collective violence created by irrational superstition, religion, and ethnic or nationalist loyalties. Once liberated from this destructive ignorance, people can create political and social orders that will promote peace, social justice, political freedom, and prosperity.

...The unprecedented carnage of World War I, in which the peoples of highly civilized Europe killed each other with nationalist and ethnic fervor, did not lessen enthusiasm for such idealistic internationalism.

...Nor did the even greater horrors of World War II disabuse the West of its idealism, most obviously manifested in the creation of the United Nations, which has done little to save the some 41 million victims of invasion, genocide, civil war, political murder, and ethnic cleansing since World War II.

This record of failure would not have surprised political theorists from Thucydides to the American framers. In that tradition, human nature is permanently flawed by what James Madison called "passions and interests" that necessarily conflict with those of other people or nations, and often lead to violence between them.

...Nor did these realists believe that better education or prosperity could permanently rein in these flaws of human nature, for dangerous world of "imperious necessities," as Thucydides called the tragic contingencies of human existence, would always create stresses that prove "a rough master that brings most men's characters to a level with their fortunes." The gruesome carnage Europeans inflicted on each other in the twentieth century proved Thucydides correct.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/24/2014 07:21 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Apparatchik as the ruling caste.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/24/2014 9:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Part 12,364 in an ongoing series.
Posted by: charger || 08/24/2014 12:15 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Dilemma of Barelvi politics
[DAWN] Irrespective of what Allama Tahirul Qadri
...Pak politician, and would-be dictator, founder and head of Tehreek-e-Minhajul Quran and Pakistain Awami Tehrik. He usually resides in Canada, but returns to Pakistain periodically to foam at the mouth and lead demonstrations. Depending on which way the wind's blowing, Qadri claims to be the author of Pak's blasphemy law. Other times he says it wasn't him...
is destined to achieve through his politics of agitation, he is injecting a sort of activism among disillusioned Barelvi religious organizations with a political orientation.

Most religio-political organizations subscribing to the Barelvi school of thought do not have organised structures and networks. Pirs, or custodians of shrines, and influential religious scholars constitute the local power centres and seek strength from the followers of their respective shrines.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 08/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Three, two, one
[DAWN] If they can, they will. If there's an incentive — power — and there's opportunity — a rickety system — someone will attack.

Defence — plugging the holes — is usually ex-post, after the event, because ex-ante, before the event, it's the attacker who has the greater incentive to find the vulnerabilities.

Simply, democracy will be attacked as long as democracy is weak, and the weaknesses will be found by the attackers more often than they will be by the defenders.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 08/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Light at the end of the tunnel?
[DAWN] It veers from high politics to low farce seemingly from hour to hour. Depending on the time of the day or the latest micro-move by either side, the impasse between the federal government and the Pakistain Tehrik-e-Insaf
...a political party in Pakistan. PTI was founded by former Pakistani cricket captain and philanthropist Imran Khan. The party's slogan is Justice, Humanity and Self Esteem, each of which is open to widely divergent interpretations....
seems to deepen, move towards resolution or maintaining status quo.

While simultaneously signalling that it could in fact still go the settlement route, the PTI formally initiated the process of its MNAs quitting parliament. Meanwhile,
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 08/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Iraq
Champ Drafted to Fight Bush's War
[Daily Beast] Let's remember who got us into this mess in Iraq, despite plenty of warnings--from Republicans, even--that this is where it would all lead us. Blame Bush? In this case, absolutely.
The Bush default always overrides Champ's failures.
A picture is coming into focus now, is it not? As I write the United States has launched more than 80 air strikes against the Islamic State. As the strikes have already expanded--and in my view properly so--beyond the original goals of saving the Yazidis and protecting American people and property in Erbil, there's no clear telling of where and when they will end.
Regime message: 'Focus' on Bush, not the Champ.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/24/2014 00:58 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
VDH: Sherman in Gaza
excellent as usual.
Posted by: Frank G || 08/24/2014 12:17 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  Civil War historian the late Shelby Foote wrote that the South was destined to lose the war from the beginning, "they never had a snowball's chance in hell." There was no lack of elan, capable leadership, dedication, or bravery in the South. Nor was there a lack of knowledgeable woodsmen or men trained in fieldcraft, or an excess of haute, mounted aristocrats.

As in most wars and conflicts, victory eludes the poorly armed and supplied force. Supply and logistics are everything.



Posted by: Besoeker || 08/24/2014 13:45 Comments || Top||

#2  love the graphic
Posted by: 3dc || 08/24/2014 13:50 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm not quite so sure, Besoeker. I'm hardly a Civil War expert, but it seemed as though it was fairly close--not so much that the South close to winning but that the North was close to giving up. As VDH noted, if Lincoln had lost the election the result might have been a de-facto separation: an effective victory for the South.

And, of course, if the South hadn't actually started shooting, it isn't obvious that the North would have started, and once again the result might have been a de-facto separation.
Posted by: James || 08/24/2014 15:15 Comments || Top||

#4  The North giving up is very accurate James. Many in the North were sure it would all be over in a matter of a few months. Ever the adept politician and statesman, Lincoln pulled a rabbit out of his hat with the Emancipation Proclamation of 1863. Davis was no match for Lincoln, either in political acumen or leadership. Had the husband of Mary Anna Custis been fully in charge, outcomes might have gone differently.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/24/2014 15:53 Comments || Top||

#5  No one could write a compelling historical narrative as Shelby Foote could. As an almost retired professional Historian I should dismiss him for his lack of citations/bibliography. I can't. This writer spent decades writing his 3 vol. opus. And each word rings true...
Posted by: borgboy || 08/24/2014 22:42 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Dershowitz: ISIS is to America as Hamas is to Israel
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 || 08/24/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Dershowitz is to America as OJ is to America.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/24/2014 1:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Two observations:

1.)Accusing critics of Israel of specifically of hypocrisy makes for a poor argument. The US and NATO have indeed been very soft on islamofascism since 2001, even on those islamofascists who had conducted massive attacks on the West.

No one, not even Israel is morally obliged to emulate irrational, amoral and self-destructive behavior. This should be a sufficient defense of Israel's reaction to Hamas' aggression.

2.) Why this sudden near hysterical outrage specifically over ISIS?

Atrocities similar to ISIS' crimes and atrocities much worse have transpired in broad daylight in Western cities.
In each instance any expression of disapproval beyond grief (sometimes verging on maudlin sentimentality) over the victims of these respective 'tragic events' was frowned upon if not explicitly verboten.

What is the difference here? What is the essential difference between ISIS and Hezbollah, Hamas, IRG, Taliban, Boko Haram, MB etc ?
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 || 08/24/2014 4:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Atrocities similar to ISIS' crimes and atrocities much worse have transpired in broad daylight in Western cities.
Examples, please. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/24/2014 6:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Examples, please.

Theo van Gogh, Lee Rigby?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/24/2014 6:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Sick bastids, all of them.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/24/2014 7:30 Comments || Top||

#6  The problem isn't Hamas or ISIS, it's the stupidity of allowing others to put chains and ropes around your ability to resolve such overt threats with a finality that is well within either country's capacity (see - Sri Lanka)
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/24/2014 9:06 Comments || Top||

#7  What is the difference here? What is the essential difference between ISIS and Hezbollah, Hamas, IRG, Taliban, Boko Haram, MB etc?

When judged by their actions; not much. Maybe goat or camel buggering preferences.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/24/2014 9:10 Comments || Top||

#8  it's the stupidity of allowing others to put chains and ropes around your ability to resolve such overt threats with a finality that is well within either country's capacity

Amen to that. We have not released the "dogs of war" in a long time.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/24/2014 9:15 Comments || Top||

#9  "dogs of war'?

What, purple hair and an earring? The American youth ? The American Public?

MOST Americans are godless whining wusses who sweat too
much and and want more Gatorade.

They can't get their peckers up for training let alone a firefight and they are too stupid to walk home even if it is only one block from the bar.

Good luck with getting Americans to fight unless they have a seat under them and lots of gas to get there. They won't hike in and when they get there they will complain about what they had to carry.
Posted by: Big Thromoth3646 || 08/24/2014 9:49 Comments || Top||

#10  MOST Americans are godless whining wusses who sweat too much and and want more Gatorade.

Gee, I'm so glad you clarified that, Hemingway. And in capital letters, no less.

I'll bet the 7-11 customers you're screaming at as they enter and exit the store don't appreciate the distinction, though.
Posted by: Pappy || 08/24/2014 11:08 Comments || Top||

#11  I like Gatorade.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/24/2014 11:11 Comments || Top||

#12  MOST Americans are godless whining wusses who sweat too much and want more Gatorade.

Gatorade triggers my gout. If you've got a bit of gout, you've got something to bitc* about I assure you.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/24/2014 11:13 Comments || Top||

#13  What is the difference here? What is the essential difference between ISIS and Hezbollah, Hamas, IRG, Taliban, Boko Haram, MB etc ?

The other have pretty clear goal, to destroy Israel and remove the West from Arab countries. Boko Haram is nothing more that a waring tribe that lays claim to Islam.

ISIS is defining themselves differently. Their stated goal is to build the Caliphate. Their intent is to attack and destroy the West. Their plans are to bring the fight to the US and Europe. They are well funded and have the potential of developing their plans into action. They have recruited from all over Europe, Australia, Canada, and the US. They have developed relationships with with Drug cartels in South America and globally. So YES! They are different. They have a plan, they have money, they learn every day and get stronger every day. They are a very real threat to the Western way of life.
Your comments remind me of the, Its that pesky Nazi party. They are silly and will amount to nothing mentality.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 08/24/2014 12:02 Comments || Top||

#14  All islamofascistic outfits I mentioned want to rebuild the Caliphate. ISIS claims to BE the Caliphate which is why any Muslim political entity that recognizes ISIS must automatically also submit to ISIS which most of them don't want to do.

But is that really stuff that matters to Western targets of islamofascistic aggression?
Is the Iranian bomb really less dangerous than ISIS because Iran does not claim to be the new Caliphate?
Iran does not recognize Western sovereignty either and claims a divine right to rule globally.

Examples of attacks:
9-11 targeted 10000s, 'only' close to 3000 dead
7-7, Atocha, Lee Rigby, Van Gogh, Glasgow attacks, Bali and Ghriba Synagogue bombings (Westerner tourists were targeted)
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 || 08/24/2014 16:55 Comments || Top||

#15  Obama is to America as Chamberlain was to England.
Posted by: Airandee || 08/24/2014 19:25 Comments || Top||

#16  Obama is to America as Chamberlain was to England.

I disagree - Chamberlain, and those with him were fools. Obama, and ValJar and those with them knows exactly what they are doing and are doing it deliberately and with malice.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/24/2014 20:33 Comments || Top||

#17  You not so crazy fool!
Posted by: 49 Pan || 08/24/2014 20:42 Comments || Top||

#18  If ISIS gets inside the US borders and causes sufficient damage, President Barack Hussein gets his wish. A country under Military occupation and Marshal Law.
Posted by: Ebbomosh Hupemp2664 || 08/24/2014 21:01 Comments || Top||

#19  Isn't that how Marcos became Dictator in the Philippines. Declare a state of emergency which never quite ended.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/24/2014 21:27 Comments || Top||

#20  it still hasn't
Posted by: Frank G || 08/24/2014 22:22 Comments || Top||


Government
NYT: The Golf Address
Maureen Dowd bites, with venom aforethought.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/24/2014 11:54 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My gawd, they've lost MoDo and the 48'752 almost rich, snappish, man-poor women she represents.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/24/2014 17:57 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
There Are No Self-Hating Jews
[SultanKnish] Let's say that Chester A. Maxwell decides that he hates America. He takes a flight from Massachusetts to Paris, renounces his citizenship and spends the rest of his life stomping up and down the beaches of France and screaming imprecations at Americans.

Our friend Chester is not a self-hating American because he is no longer an American. He may have an American accent, like the same foods, books and movies that give him a common reference point with many of his old countymen and otherwise be mistaken for one of the gang. But he isn't.

Even if he chooses to continue describing himself as an American, it's a meaningless self-description. 'American' is a group identity. Not an individual identity. You cannot be an American who does not want to be part of America or to associate with other Americans.

Nor is Chester self-hating. Just because he hates America and Americans doesn't mean that he hates himself. He probably likes himself a good deal. People with poor self-images rarely reject group identities. Those who reject a group identity this vehemently tend to be extremely egotistical.

Now suppose Chester Maxwell's real name is Howard F. Goldstein and he spends all his time screaming about Israel from Ann Arbor. When he speaks, his accent has more than a little Brooklyn in it, his bookshelves are lined with books by Jewish authors and he has a fondness for knishes.

Accuse him of anti-Semitism and he exclaims that he's a Jew. But Howard is as Jewish as Chester is American.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/24/2014 04:38 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For me, as a non-Jew, this piece really explains a great deal of behavior and words that have mystified me all of my life.

Thanks for posting this gromgoru.
Posted by: no mo uro || 08/24/2014 5:55 Comments || Top||

#2  De nada
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/24/2014 6:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Nor is Chester self-hating. Just because he hates America and Americans doesn't mean that he hates himself. He probably likes himself a good deal. People with poor self-images rarely reject group identities. Those who reject a group identity this vehemently tend to be extremely egotistical.

Now suppose Chester Maxwell's real name is Howard F. Goldstein...
Or Barack Hussein Obama?
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/24/2014 9:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Don't you mean Barry Dunham, JQC?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/24/2014 9:29 Comments || Top||

#5  Barry Sotero.
Posted by: Pappy || 08/24/2014 14:44 Comments || Top||

#6  Barry Marshall Davis
Posted by: Frank G || 08/24/2014 14:56 Comments || Top||

#7  If I had a son, he'd look just like........
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/24/2014 16:01 Comments || Top||



Who's in the News
28[untagged]
9Govt of Pakistan
8Islamic State
6Hamas
4Taliban
4Boko Haram
3Arab Spring
3Ansar al-Sharia
1al-Nusra
1Houthis
1Islamic Jihad
1Jamaat-e-Islami
1Lashkar-e-Islam
1Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan
1Commies
1al-Qaeda in Arabia
1Govt of Iran

Bookmark
E-Mail Me

The Classics
The O Club
Rantburg Store
The Bloids
The Never-ending Story
Thugburg
Gulf War I
The Way We Were
Bio

Merry-Go-Blog











On Sale now!


A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.

Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.

Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has dominated Mexico for six years.
Click here for more information

Meet the Mods
In no particular order...
Steve White
Seafarious
tu3031
badanov
sherry
ryuge
GolfBravoUSMC
Bright Pebbles
trailing wife
Gloria
Fred
Besoeker
Glenmore
Frank G
3dc
Skidmark

Two weeks of WOT
Sun 2014-08-24
  Boko Haram Executes Two People For Smoking Cigarettes
Sat 2014-08-23
  Syrian army ambushes 140 IS fighters in al-Raqqa
Fri 2014-08-22
  Boko Haram Takfiris seize town in NE Nigeria
Thu 2014-08-21
  Israeli Fire Kills 31 in Gaza as Hamas Warns Foreign Airlines, Declares Truce Talks Over
Wed 2014-08-20
  Geelani, Yasin Malik meet Pak envoy after India calls off talks
Tue 2014-08-19
  Kurdish PKK trains Yazidis to fight back against Islamic State.
Mon 2014-08-18
  Apple employee took assassin's bullets for British colonel
Sun 2014-08-17
  Jihadists kill dozens in north Iraq 'massacre': officials
Sat 2014-08-16
  Iraq Sunni Tribes Take Up Arms against Jihadists
Fri 2014-08-15
  ISIS jihadist poses with severed head as Caliphate seize more key towns
Thu 2014-08-14
  Boko Haram Appoints New Emir for Gwoza
Wed 2014-08-13
  Prince Saud: Israel has no right to self-defense
Tue 2014-08-12
  "Convert by noon today or we will kill all of you"
Mon 2014-08-11
  Iraq PM to sue president, security forces deploy across Baghdad
Sun 2014-08-10
  Al-Qaida Militants Kill 15 Yemeni Soldiers


Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
3.128.79.88
Help keep the Burg running! Paypal:
WoT Operations (27)    WoT Background (27)    Non-WoT (11)    (0)    (0)