From Debka: United Arab Emirates ruler Sheikh Zayed al-Nahyan rumored dead or on life support until succession settled.
Then the plug gets pulled.
His son Khalifa bin Zayed al-Nahyan may be challenged by two half-brothers.
The race for the throne begins, loosers get a free desert car crash.
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There's only one civilized way to settle this: Pick you're best Haremee and have them mud-wrestle. Owner of winning haremee takes throne and losing haremee's.
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well who ever becomes the president but one thing is sure they have lost a great leader.
P.K. Abdul Ghafour, Arab News Al-Islam Group, a charitable organization, plans to launch tomorrow a new website named quranforall.org and two CDs containing several books in multiple languages to celebrate Ramadan. "This is our third Islamic website," said Muhammad Abdul Mateen Osmani, director of the group. The websites were set up to disseminate the message of Islam all over the world, he added. The first website, launched in November 2002 received 2.3 million hits from people in 80 countries, Osmani pointed out. The second site named prophetmuhammadforall.org received 200,000 hits within six months of its launching in April 2004. "We developed the new site called quranforall.org as well as the two CDs named Explore Qur'an in Ramadan to celebrate the holy month in a unique and useful manner," Osmani said. "Many people think that the Qur'an is only for Muslims. Actually, it is a divine book of guidance for the whole humanity. In our new website and CDs you will find a lot of information about the Qur'an in English, Urdu and Telugu languages," he said.
Spelling out the special features of the new site, Osmani said it includes the Qur'an recitation by Sheikh Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais, one of the imams of the Grand Mosque in Makkah, and translation of the Qur'an in English, Urdu and Telugu. "It's the only website where you can read the full Qur'an translation of the late Islamic scholar Maulana Abul Aala Moudoodi in both English and Urdu," he pointed out.
Gee. Golly. Shucks. Oh, Mom! Lemme surf there!
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And if you're one the the first five hundred people to subscribe, you'll receive a complimentary DVD of "The Greatest Denunciations of Israel"!
The Naif Arab University for Security Sciences has signed a memorandum of understanding with Geneva-based United Nations Office for Combating Drugs and Crime which will enable the university to learn more from the experience of the UN agencies within an international framework. "The memorandum aims at enhancing scientific cooperation between the two parties to fight these social evils," said Dr. Abdul Aziz Al-Ghamdi, the university president, here yesterday. "This agreement will facilitate training of human resources to fight crime and drug trafficking on the local and regional level," he said.
Only in Soddy Arabia: the president of the Prince Nayef University of Higher Security is an al-Ghamdi...
The move to endorse the new agreement is significant in view of the growing incidence of drug trafficking and crime in the region. The Naif Arab University for Security Sciences seeks to fulfill the needs expressed by the Arab and Saudi law enforcement agencies for an academic institution that promotes research on security issues, drug-related subjects and conduct training courses that can contribute to the prevention and control of crime in the Arab countries. Moreover, Saudi Arabia, among other Arab countries, has been doing well in terms of foiling drug smuggling attempts, treating drug addicts and also in reducing local consumption of drugs and intoxicants. Not only this, Riyadh has also been rated as the third most important country by the UN in terms of the strength of its network of law enforcement agencies, which apply Shariah to curb drug trafficking.
Yeah, if you cut their tiny little beturbanned heads off, I guess that does cut the recidivism rate, doesn't it?
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Russian President Vladimir Putin said Monday that terrorists are aiming to derail U.S. President George W. Bush's chances at re-election through their attacks in Iraq. "I consider the activities of terrorists in Iraq are not as much aimed at coalition forces but more personally against President Bush," Putin said at a news conference after a regional summit in the Tajik capital, Dushanbe. "International terrorism has as its goal to prevent the election of President Bush to a second term," he said. "If they achieve that goal, then that will give international terrorism a new impulse and extra power."
Still, Putin didn't say which candidate he favored in the Nov. 2 U.S. presidential election. "We unconditionally respect any choice of the American people," he said. "I don't want to spoil relations with either candidate." Putin also noted his continuing disagreement with Bush on Washington's invasion of Iraq, which Russia strongly opposed as a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council. "Russia was always against the military operations in Iraq," he said.
Despite their differences, Bush and Putin have cooperated closely in the international war on terror, with Russia assenting to the deployment of U.S. forces in former Soviet Central Asia for operations in neighboring Afghanistan. In exchange, Washington has mostly looked the other way on Moscow's continuing war in breakaway Chechnya, which Russia alleges is being fueled by international terror groups. On his last visit to Central Asia in June, Putin appeared to be backing Bush's assertion that Iraq was a threat, saying at a summit in Kazakhstan that Russia had notified Washington about intelligence that Saddam Hussein's regime was preparing attacks in the United States and its interests abroad.
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Putin needs to concentrate on the matters at hand! Had that been one of his kids or children at that school, I suspect Chechnya would be in smoldering ruins by now!
Say what you will about Vladimir but I think Bush was dead-on when he said that this was a guy he could work with.
Russian President Vladimir Putin, siding with President Bush two weeks before the U.S. election, said Monday that armed attacks in Iraq were staged by "international terrorism" out to block his re-election. "The attacks of international terrorism in Iraq are directed not only at international coalition forces but at President Bush personally," said Putin, speaking in the Tajik capital. "International terrorism has given itself the goal of causing maximum damage to Bush in the election battle, the goal of blocking the re-election of Bush for a second presidential term," he told a news conference.
Putin's comments, ahead of the Nov. 2 election in which Democratic challenger John Kerry and Bush are fighting a close race, seemed a reward to the U.S. President for his personal friendship and valuable support. The strong support he enjoys from Bush since quickly backing the U.S. war on terrorism following the Sept. 11 hijacked plane attacks in the United States has helped him withstand other criticism from the United States and the West over his democratic record at home. Despite making clear he wanted to see Bush returned to the White House, the pragmatic Putin carefully balanced his comments by adding: "We will, of course, respect any choice by the American people." Last June, Putin made clear for the first time he would like to see Bush back in the White House, accusing the Democrats of hypocrisy for attacking the U.S. leader on Iraq, saying the Clinton administration had been responsible for the 1999 air attacks on Yugoslavia.
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Say what you will about Vladimir but I think Bush was dead-on when he said that this was a guy he could work with.
It is amazing how peoples get the leadership they deserve. Putin does not seem inappropriate for Russia.
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Let's not forget the game plan drawn up by the Al-Qaeda Jihadi on the day Baghdad fell and which included this quote:
"Under these circumstances it will not be wrong that the interests of Muslims should meet with the interests of socialists in fighting against the crusaders though we reject them and say that the socialists are infidels. The legitimacy of those ideologies has fallen a long time ago. The socialists are infidels wherever they may be, in Baghdad or in Eden. The fighting that is going on or about to come up highly resembles the Muslims fighting of the Romans in the past. The meeting of interests in not harmful, for the Muslims fighting with the Romans intersected with interests of the Persians and this did not inconvenience the prophet's followers."
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Buy off Russia's nuclear industry and get Russia out of Iran's corner. $4B, $6B - whatever, the price is peanuts.
And drive greater cooperation with not just Russia but also India. Their cooperation and support re Iran means far more to us than anything France, Germany or even Tony will provide.
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I think the passage could just have easily read like this:
"Under these circumstances it will not be wrong that the interests of Russians should meet with the interests of Americans in fighting against the Islamic crusaders. We reject the Islamic crusaders because the the legitimacy of those ideologies has fallen a long time ago. The fighting that is going on or about to come up highly resembles the Russians fighting with the Americans against the Germans in the past. The meeting of interests in not harmful, for the Russians fighting with the Americans intersected with interests of the communists and this did not inconvenience Stalins followers."
All the hostage-takers who seized Beslan's School No 1 on September 1 were drug addicts and under the influence of narcotics throughout the 52-hour siege, Russia's deputy Prosecutor General said on Sunday. In a statement to the Interfax news agency, Nikolay Shepel said that forensic tests on the extremists' corpses had shown that 22 of the 32 hostage-takers had been on hard drugs and had regularly injected substances such as heroin and morphine, while the other 10 had been using softer drugs.
His statement will satisfy many of the bereaved, who have long since claimed that the extremists were "narkomany", or junkies. Traces of narcotics left in the militants' lifeless bodies exceeded normally lethal levels, Shepel added, indicating that they had been long-term addicts and had been high while preparing the terrorist act which ultimately claimed the lives of 344 people, more than half of whom were children. Their extreme brutality could also have been spurred on by the fact that some of them had run out of drugs. Shepel said: "Some of the criminals had run out of drugs and were suffering from withdrawal symptoms which are usually accompanied by aggressiveness and uncontrollable behaviour. These conclusions allow us to look at the situation from a new angle."
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I don't buy into that. About the most hardcore druggies can plan and do is hit the local stop and rob for fifty bucks, two cartons of cigs and a six pack.
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I sort of felt the same way. This is not something I would trust the Ruskies about as it is probably internal propaganda. But I did go to the dictionary:
as·sas·sin   ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (-ssn) n.
One who murders by surprise attack, especially one who carries out a plot to kill a prominent person.
Assassin A member of a secret order of Muslims who terrorized and killed Christian Crusaders and others.
[French, from Medieval Latin assassnus, from Arabic an, pl. of a, hashish user, from a, hashish. See hashish.]
Word History: At first glance, one would be hard-pressed to find a link between pleasure and the acts of assassins. Such was not the case, however, with those who gave us the word assassin. They were members of a secret Islamic order originating in the 11th century who believed it was a religious duty to harass and murder their enemies. The most important members of the order were those who actually did the killing. Having been promised paradise in return for dying in action, the killers, it is said, were made to yearn for paradise by being given a life of pleasure that included the use of hashish. From this came the name for the secret order as a whole, an, âhashish users.â After passing through French or Italian, the word came into English and is recorded in 1603 with reference to the Muslim Assassins.
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I don't care where the word came from - I'd just bet that if 60 of the parents or teachers at that school had been armed themselves that day, the number of killed would have been below 100, and 90% of those would have been the perps.
I think that if every American that had a clean record was armed to the teeth every day, there would be no Belsan-type attacks in the United States - EVER. The government wants to take away guns from their citizens for one reason only - self-preservation of a more and more unrepresentative government hostile to personal freedom, at every level.
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North Korea's No. 2 leader said Monday that his country still wants to settle the dispute over its nuclear program through dialogue, as China tried to cajole the North back into stalled six-nation talks, calling for flexibility by all sides. Kim Yong Nam began a visit to Beijing on Monday amid of flurry of efforts to restart the talks on Washington's demand for the North to give up its nuclear ambitions. Participants missed a September deadline for holding a new round after the North refused to take part. "The situation of the Korean Peninsula is still complicated, but the North Korean side would like to find a peaceful solution of the nuclear issue through dialogue," state television quoted Kim as telling his Chinese counterpart, Wu Bangguo. The report didn't say, however, whether Kim was referring to the six-nation talks, which also include host China, South Korea, Japan and Russia.
Polls are looking better for Bush and worse for Kimmy, huh?
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China is trying to stop the United Nations imposing sanctions on Sudan over the crisis in the Darfur regionto protect its oil imports from the country, say western diplomats. For the past six years Beijing has been the Sudanese government's main backer, buying 70 per cent of its exports, servicing its $20bn debt and supplying the Khartoum government with most of its weapons. Beijing oil imports jumped 35 per cent this year and its reliance on a growing number of rogue states to meet its needs is putting it on a collision course with the United States. Sudan and Iran together supply 20 per cent of China's oil imports, and if economic sanctions were applied to either, Beijing would be unable to sustain its high growth rates.
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If China has this relationship with Sudan then why can't we convince China to deal with Sudan? Screw the UN. Go right to China and tell then to sort Sudan out. If China wants to be a world player it's going to have to act like one. This is a good chance to show the world what it can do.
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SPoD, I don't think we want Chinese troops anywhere but in China (if that's what you meant).
China's reliance on rogue states will come back to bite them hard. About the only thing you have going for you in a Communist, centrally planned economy is predictability. Predictability is in short supply when dealing w/ rogue nations.
EFL
The US' handling this week of a report on Saddam Hussein's attempts to purchase weapons and buy influence has angered French officials and set back a year of US efforts to repair the rupture caused by the Iraq war, French and other European officials said on Friday. The anger of France and others is focused on the assertions in the report by Charles Duelfer, the top US arms inspector in Iraq, that French companies and individuals, some with close ties to the government, enriched themselves through Iraq's huge payments to gain influence around the world in the years before the war. Let me see if I get this straight. Efforts to improve US-French relations -- damaged by French perfidy, corruption, and gross irresponsibility with regard to Iraq -- are imperiled by US handling of information showing French perfidy, corruption, and gross irresponsibility with regard to Iraq. I must be missing a nuance, or else this makes no effing sense.
Must have been French efforts to improve relations by getting Kerry elected.
Administration spokesmen said that there was no intent in releasing the report to endorse its findings or blame France or any other country for corruption, or to link any alleged corruption to that country's subsequent opposition to the war in Iraq. True, France's status as Saddam's mafia lawyer at the UNSC, tirelessly pushing to end sanctions regardless of Iraqi behavior, began before the ink was dry on UNSCR 687. The corruption part was just icing on the cake.
French officials say that the report's charges, based on documents and interviews in Iraq, have been denied in the past, but that Duelfer's report did not contain the denials. They also complain that France was not given more than one day's notice before the report was issued. Cry me a river, Jacques. We promise, next time we expose French complicity in genocide and terror we'll give you 48 hours' notice -- no, really)
They were incensed that the report also mentioned Americans in connection with similar charges, but that unlike the French they were not identified because of US privacy regulations. One more reason to be American, and not French.
"You protect American citizens, but you put in danger a number of private citizens in other countries who may be innocent people," said Jean-David Levitte, the French ambassador to the US. "These names are from an old list, published months ago, and those mentioned denied it flatly."
A European diplomat said the damage to French-American relations was so great that it could disrupt a new spirit of cooperation with France on other fronts, namely the joint US and European efforts to put pressure on Iran to dismantle its suspected nuclear weapons program and to organize an international conference next month on Iraq. So the damage caused by shameful and even criminal French misbehavior, now exacerbated by recognition of shameful and even criminal French misbehavior, threatens to disrupt the naive and pathetic European efforts to bribe Iran out of their nuke ambitions, and derail a pointless conference to which France has announced it would invite our Sunni enemies in Iraq? Whatever will we do?
Encourage the Israelis to take care of it for us?
"This report does great damage," Levitte said. "There really is a sense of outrage in Paris. We don't want to create a situation that will put us back to one year ago. But these are dirty tricks at the expense of France, with the White House putting the finger on the name of France." Outrage! France's good name tarnished! Let's all take a break now so we can stop laughing.
Feel free to draw another anti-American cartoon in Le Monde.
Administration spokesmen said Friday that the US did not endorse the allegations that anyone was enriched by Iraq's practices, only that Iraq was trying to buy influence and weaken sanctions. Let me see if I follow this -- massive bribes were paid, but nobody got richer from them?
"It doesn't say that those transactions were completed," said Richard Boucher, a State Department spokesman. "It doesn't say whether or not governments intervened. It doesn't say whether or not the individuals declined. It doesn't really say what happened." Was that a Clinton defense lawyer or a State spokesman? Along with the seething and whining of the French, the presumed anguish of the nuance specialists in the Europe Bureau is the happiest thing I've contemplated in a while.
But that was not the tone adopted by Cheney and other officials caught up in President Bush's shrill re-election campaign. Whuh?? Catch that -- Bush's "shrill" election campaign? Strength, resolution, optimism, ambitious goals in keeping with our values -- shrill! Medi-scare, draft-scare, promising miracles to heal the sick, trolling for homophobia, embracing the lunatic and anti-semitic anti-American left -- uh ... nuanced!
In Florida on Thursday, Cheney said Saddam used oil funds to corrupt "some employees of the United Nations as well as other governments in the hopes that they would work with him to undermine the sanctions."
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No place remaining to hide in the Frog pond. :)
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Shrill? Must have been listening to the JFK/SorrosEdwards folk. The French must be confused.
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Jean-David Levitte can kiss my rear end and put his "new spirit of cooperation" where the sun don't shine. The French are playing a double game right now due to the U.S. election. We'll see how they whine in 16 days. Four more years, frog.
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US efforts to repair the rupture
How about some French efforts to repair the rupture? The Frogs have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Hack 'em off.
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Leave the rupture in place, for shrill's sake! France is not an ally, despite what the NYT and NPR keep saying. Do we think of it as regrettable "rupture" when a criminal is accused, then indicted?
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I saw Mssr. Levitte on C-Span this weekend, talking about French US relations. At one point, an audience member asked what lessons had been learned from the strains in French/US relations since the US went ahead with Operation Iraqi Freedom without French cooperation. He said we must learn to listen to each other. What does that mean? It means that they still think talk solves everything, and that the US should follow France's lead (corrupt oil deals, coddling/negotiating with terrorists, blaming Israel for the ills of the world, etc.) in how to deliver world peace. It was crystal clear from his answer that he thought the French needed to learn no lesson-that the steady disintegration of the French/US alliance is the US's fault.
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the steady disintegration of the French/US alliance is the US's fault.
Perhaps that's true - our expectation sof them were too high. We thought they'd act as an ally, mutually interested in combatting terrorism and putting a democratically elected gov't in place of Saddam. They, on the other hand, expected us to allow their backstabbing perfidy and abuse to continue without calling them on it. Our bad....
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It means that they still think talk solves everything,
When a yammer is the only tool in the box, all problems look like a summit.
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If so-if we shouldn't have expected better from them than betrayal, abandonment, theft-then it follows logically that the US government shouldn't waste any more time trying to "repair" the alliance.
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This whole brouhaha reminds me of Reagan's "Empire of Evil" remark: the sheer volume of the denials and criticisms just indicates that Duelfer hit the bullseye.
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 It means that they still think talk solves everything
It means talk is the only thing they can do.
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We have no trust for the French govt, and we really do not have any mutual self interest, so we have no reason to work with the French. They aid and abet our enemies, so they should be considered a hostile nation. We do not have to train the guns on them, just ignore them.
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the French ambassador to the US. "These names are from an old list, published months ago, and those mentioned denied it flatly."
Did you know that our prisons are filled with innocent people too? No really....
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The Oil for Fraud stuff, as disgusting as it is, pales in comparison with France's overt sanctions-busting and influence-trading via sweetheart deals signed at the 11th hour with Saddam. In the W Qurna oilfields deal (Nov 02), France got exclusive rights with extremely generous guaranteed profit margins to develop one-third of all of Iraq's reserves, or 20 billion barrels! Ditto (on a lesser scale) for Russia's LUKoil's deals.
Talk about a coalition of the bribed, or blood (of Saddam's victims) for oil contracts.
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Jacques the Ripper-Off knows that the minute he's out of office he's headed au prison.
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"These names are from an old list, published months ago, and those mentioned denied it flatly."
if the list was already published, then there are no privacy concerns.
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Jacques the Ripper-Off knows that the minute he's out of office he's headed au prison.
I wouldn't count on it. If I understand correctly (JFM, TGA, please correct me if I'm wrong!), French (and continental European) political culture is far more tolerant of corruption than we in the States would be--what Chirac did is not viewed with anything approaching the disapproval it would meet with here un the U.S.
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Agree with Mike. For the better part of almost three decades, both major parties in France have been running slush funds with contributions and kickbacks from execs at France's major oil company, formerly Elf Aquitaine, now TotalFinaElf. The same entity that received the sweetheart deal for 20 billion barrels of reserves from Saddam.
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Mike-Precisely right. SO, next time they complain about poverty, and the gap between rich and poor, and human misery, and downtrodden peoples, and demand we help other countries with handouts, subsidies, debt forgiveness, etc., we should point out they gave corrupt politicians and criminals those monies. If Europe can't seem to stomach the argument that tolerating corruption in business and government is the sign of ethicless individuals and an ethicless culture, maybe they can appreciate the argument from the thanks but no thanks, we-will-find-ethical-partners-to-do-business-with-outside-of-your-country-instead approach.
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When will the Chirac French realize that we no longer give a fuck what they think? Go wave your white flag for weak but murderous despots...but don't expect anything but disdain from us for your ocd need to do so.
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And there is still the same deafening silence in the French media. Not a denial, silence. Meaning that the average French has never heard of the matter.
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#12 Ptah wrote: This whole brouhaha reminds me of Reagan's "Empire of Evil" remark: the sheer volume of the denials and criticisms just indicates that Duelfer hit the bullseye.
Said another way: the dog that barks the loudest is the one that's been hit.
Several thousands joined an anti-war rally Sunday to mark the end of the three-day European Social Forum. The thousands who turned out were a fraction of the estimated million who came out to protest Feb. 15 last year against an imminent invasion of Iraq. But given strong public reactions against a redeployment of British troops to Falluja from the relatively safe Basra that was proposed earlier this week, the anti-war rally took on a new urgency. The anti-war rally was in effect an anti-occupation rally. And it went beyond calls to end occupation to resolutions to support the Iraqi resistance against occupation... "We will not allow the resistance to be trivialised as some sort of terrorist movement," Chris Nineham from the Stop the War Coalition told IPS. "It is a popular insurrection resisting occupation..."
Do let's not trivialize "some sort of terrorist movement."
It appears to be a popular insurrection that gets its jollies blowing people up, to include little kiddies, and cutting people's heads off.
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"We will not allow the resistance to be trivialised as some sort of terrorist movement,â¦
Typical moonbat imperial "We" and frothery. I consider talk like this sedition. I wonder if Britain still has sedition laws? Pity if they don't.
I see they trotted out Paul Bigley's brother who is likely responsible for having engineered his brothers demise by convincing him to go to Iraq against the advice of his own government along with other hi jinks. Possibly being in contact with the kidnappers via internet by news accounts. Also present was the lovely ever frothing Mrs Rose who dishonors her sons death everytime she opens her mouth. The decrepit Tony Benn was in attendance as well luckly he didn't keel over while in full froth.
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The thousands who turned out were a fraction of the estimated million who came out to protest Feb. 15 last year against an imminent invasion of Iraq. But given strong public reactions against a redeployment of British troops to Falluja from the relatively safe Basra that was proposed earlier this week, the anti-war rally took on a new urgency.
To translate: Even though there are fewer and fewer of us, we are even more important than before. And while we can't stop a war, we can sure peddle an agenda to a 'journalist.'
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Seemingly a meeting of the European branch of the Comintern, from the pictures I've seen. fruitcakes the lot - the Socialist Worker crowd have to have something to shout about or life gets terribly dull for them.
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I think I heard this was a group effort organised by the Stop the War Coalition, a Muslim group, and CND. Talk about a Coalition of the Wrong. (I nicked that phrase from someone who applied it to last year's Million Moron March which consisted of the above, plus a few hundred thousand idiots (and their numerous offspring) who proudly proclaimed that they 'didn't normally pay any attention to politics or current events but just knew they had to protest against whatever it was that was happening, this time'.)
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I've just noticed that there's no longer a 'British' section on RB. WTF? We've been dumped in with the garlic-eating hordes of the unwashed. Europe? Come on...
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Some Scottsman got POed about Britain. Maybe they filed it under United Kingdom?
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Howard, I just looked and there is still a File Under: Britain. Perhaps it is being blocked by MI5.
As to these moonbats, the nice thing about living in the US is that you can admire the British penchant for eccentricity from a distance. Sort of like how eating Harris Ranch steak in San Francisco is so much more enjoyable than eating it at the Harris Ranch feedlot.
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Phew - must be the poster's (Anonymoose) Europhile tendencies coming into play. MrsD - I've heard SF is a hotbed of eccentricity too... at least was. There's nowt wrong with a dose of British eccentricity - these people are largely drug addled sheep out on a spree.
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Thanks, Howard. That went right over my head.
You are correct about the Bay Area. I suspect a very high proportion of these people hail from there.
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LOL! Just fell off my chair!
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spleenville.com my, my, all I can say is my, my. Mrs D those folks look very "normal" mostly. Howard is trying to tell you some of the Moonbats he is refering to are not so normal looking.
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Funny thing Mrs. D is that these yahoos actually believe that they are mainstream. No matter that they put in notices in half the states paper for a rally and barely 10K show up (out of a population of 35 MILLION). Are you sure these arenât pictures from the DNC convention? Some of the LLL glazed-over faces look familiar.
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Were these the so-called human shields that were supposed to go to Iraq before the war? There's still time. Let them go to Fallujah with their signs.
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Snipped from the Chicago Tribune Magazine (yes the same paper that endorsed Pres. Bush)
For the last 25 years, the 51-year-old Kathy Kelly has been nowhere near the sidelines. She has been willing to go anywhere in the world-Bosnia, Haiti, the West Bank-to do whatever she can to help victims of violence and demonstrate for peace. As long as the activity is non-violent, she has been willing to be arrested again and again. She has been willing to go to jail again and again. She has even been willing to die. Just before the start of the war in Iraq last year, while most foreign diplomats and journalists heeded President Bush's warning to leave Baghdad within 48 hours, Kelly stayed behind in a small hotel near the banks of the Tigris River. "I was determined not to let the bombs have the last word," she says. Her defiance of the sanctions has prompted questions about whose side she is on. She has been criticized, even by some in the peace movement, for not being nearly as tough on former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and his brutal dictatorship as she has been on sanctions and other measures to curb his power.
Kelly once referred to the sanctions as "Weapons of Mass Destruction." She is a professional twit.
Kelly's view of the sanctions is that the UN they have been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. As for Hussein, she despised his murderous regime but not as much as Bush says that being openly critical of him would have meant expulsion from Iraq and the end of her mission. "It was a tightrope to walk," she admits. "If we did a demonstration in Iraq, we'd get booted right out of there."
"So we held demonstrations against civilized countries and then went to Iraq."
In the late 1980s, before the collapse of the Soviet Union, scores of nuclear weapons sat in silos beneath the Missouri prairie. For a year, Kelly and dozens of other people across the Midwest-college students and nuns, poets and housewives-made plans for a non-violent invasion of the missile sites. The plan was to plant corn and flowers around the missiles, to "sow seeds of life," and they called their project the Missouri Peace Planting. Kelly, who grew up on the Southwest Side, didn't know a thing about farming; a friend in Ohio had to show her what to do... I have to ask: what has she actually accomplished? Did she end the cold war? Did she eliminate Saddam and free Iraqis? Seems to me like a lot of empty gestures.
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Spot, people, like her wonât ever admit they were wrong. Be it missiles, PLO violence, or Iraq they canât fault the bad guys. And make no mistake they are on the side of the bad guys. Just ask someone like this how many âanti-warâ rallies were held against Iraqâs invasion of Kuwait and youâll get a really twisted answer. Ask them how many âelectionsâ have been held in all the Arab countries over the past 10 years. And of them how many had UN monitors?
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...to do whatever she can to help victims of violence and demonstrate for peace...
As for Hussein, she despised his murderous regime but says that being openly critical of him would have meant expulsion from Iraq and the end of her mission.
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Be it missiles, PLO violence, or Iraq they canât fault the bad guys.
That's because the bad guys have a habit of killing people who defy them. Opposing the US allows them to play hero and martyr without the risk of injury.
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As for Hussein, she despised his murderous regime but says that being openly critical of him would have meant expulsion from Iraq and the end of her mission.
"You, too, can have a rewarding career as a professional moonbat. Travel the world, meet terrorists and dictators, . . . "
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I'm imagining an infomercial here . . . "You, too, can have a rewarding career as a professional moonbat. Travel the world, meet terrorists and dictators, . . . "
"â¦suffer lethal head trauma when a chuck of debris falls off the bulldozer you're trying to blockâ¦"
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what a fucking twit! She doesn't even know how to plant corn and sunflowers?
I was raised in the city. My dad had to drive us to another city to see cows at dairy farms that have long (20+ years) since been overtaken by housing developments. Even I know how to plant sunflowers and corn. How hard is that?
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The main reason I posted this was that when I read the article I kept thinking to myself: if you truly believe your values, why not do something useful? Leftists spend all their time making "gestures' (such as "helping" American Indians by changing the nicknames of school sports teams). If this woman really wanted to help the Iraqi children, why didn't she make sure the Oil-for-Food program was running properly? But no, it was the sanctions fault.
Grrr, do something useful or STFU!
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The important thing to remember about people like this, is despite what they say, what they do is for their own personal benefit, and to hell with everybody else. Their self-pity is astronomical, and they wish to project it outward on someone or something else. Compare them with those who have Munchausen Syndrome--usually mothers who injure their own children, craving attention from doctors, and to be able to fret a lot over their poor, injured child.
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I have no problem with people being anti-war as long as they are consistent about it (who in their right mind wants war as the first option anyway). If you are against war be against all war. Be against Milosovich killing Bosnian Muslims, be against Muslims in Sudan killing Animists and non arab Muslims, be against the civil wars in Africa, be against the butchering of Christians in East Timor. But we can't expect that because those aren't operations being conducted by the evil Western Nations (read the USA and/or surrogates). If the anti-war protesters in Feb. 2003 had any real solidarity with the people of Iraq they would of been protesting against the butcher Saddam.
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Kellyâs view of the sanctions is that they have been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. As for Hussein, she despised his murderous regime but says that being openly critical of him would have meant expulsion from Iraq and the end of her mission. "It was a tightrope to walk," she admits. "If we did a demonstration in Iraq, weâd get booted right out of there."
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I think I met her about 10 years ago. No kidding.
It was in Chicago and although she was nice (and could've even been pretty if she'd used a bit of make up), there was something about her that made me think she wasn't even in the room as she was talking.
I think she is a little "pixle-ated" and I believe she gets funds through fundraisers at benefits, etc., run by hippies, anarchists, & the like. She's with some quasi-Catholic, crypto-socialist group called "Voices in the Wilderness".
With the US election just weeks away, some reports in the US media have provided a glimpse into the discontent among American troops in Iraq. Young soldiers, many barely out of high school, are seething with anger over being used to police the indefinite occupation of the country, against the will of both the Iraqi and the American people... Always good for a laugh.
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I think the Madhi army is mostly "whimpering" these days.
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It is a soldier's right to gripe, indeed it is a long held tradition to gripe. But when it's time to go to work you always do the right thing.
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Amen Bill! I never saw a campaign or exercise where everyone was happy. Hell when we were in garrison and nothing to do we had people bitching about one thing or another.
(Interview with John Kerry)
"...I think you have to @#$#@ measurements..."
"...The moving warrant and @#$#@ tap..."
"...I think I mentioned this @#$#@ $@#$@#$..."
"...I think you need a new President with a fresh start and new credibility to get us out of this @#$@#$@..."
"...A company that's importing ceiling fans from China got freebies rather than the President saying, take this back, take this out, and send it to me clean with ethanol, with the Florida stuff, with the North Carolina tobacco buyout, that's Presidential @#$#@$@..." "And you can quote me on that!"
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Can't read that. It makes me want to vomit.
The person is a pathological liar. He couldn't find the truth if it bit him on the ass nad he had both hands on it.
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I agree. I got about halfway through that steaming heap and gave up; like nearly all Democrats these days, he appears to think the audience is a bunch of dumb rubes who don't remember anything past yesterday, won't bother checking facts, and who'll believe ANYTHING a Democrat politician tells them.
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It seems what Mr. Kerry is saying in response to some of these questions is he doesn't have a position on them until he meets with advisors. That's not necessarily a bad thing but I would think he would have some opinion on some of these issues. He seems to be saying he wont commit himself until someone in his advisor cadre tells him what his position should be. He lets his aides fill out questionaires and doesn't know what they wrote.
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INTELLIGENCE reports that 25 Chechen terrorism suspects have illegally entered the US from Mexico have refocused attention on a porous border from which many believe the next major attack on Americans could come. Despite the $US9 billion ($12.326 billion) budget, and assurances from President George W. Bush that border security is tighter than it has ever been, public figures of all political stripes in the border states say the danger of al-Qa'ida infiltrating the US from Mexico has never been higher. The Washington Times newspaper reported that a source told US intelligence officers the Chechens, seen carrying backpacks, were shepherded from northern Mexico in July through a remote mountainous region of Arizona that is notoriously difficult to patrol.
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Except if Bush had taken the stiff-spined way; i.e. enforcing border security, getting Arabic speakers down there, making sure only legals get drivers licenses, only citizens being able to vote (upon proof of citizenship,etc.,) he would have solidified a lot of votes among Regan Dems. Instead he's triangulated to please the Mexican vote, folks who will not vote for him anyway. Plus, and most important, he would have helped make us safer and let illegals and Mex. govt. know we were serious about security. It's as simple as that. You wanna be here? Fine, show me docs/Apply for docs back home. In the meantime you can't be here and next time, you may serve hard time. Not racist, but racial. There's a difference. Those of us who have lived abroad had to deal with ID's and work permits. So what's the problem? You take the time and money to do things right. I know the answer to my question, but I'm disappointed he's so PC-sensitive in this domaine.
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Sunday, on the front doorstep (literally) of Ft. Huachuca, a truck full of illegal aliens overturned due to a police chase - killing at least 6 and wounding 25+. This truck could have easily carried explosives and barreled its way into the aforementioned "Fort"... I am not a "red-neck border watcher", but still am alarmed sitting here 70 miles northwest in Tucson...
AUSTRALIA has quietly rejected diplomatic overtures from the United Nations and the US to contribute to a military force to protect UN officials in Iraq. The requests, made through Australia's diplomatic missions in New York and Washington, came as UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan was struggling to gain international support for a security force to protect UN officials working in Iraq. With only a handful of small nations, including Fiji, responding to the call for help, the UN has had to fall back on the fully stretched US military for protection. It has sought at least 500 military personnel or police as well as other specialist advisers to ensure the security of the UN mission in Baghdad. The lack of adequately trained security forces has handicapped the UN in its determination to assume a wider role in Iraq and assist the Iraqi Government with planning for the January 2005 national election. The real story here is how the supporters of the UN are, when push comes to shove, unwilling to support the UN. Where are the multi-nationalists - France, Spain, etc.? It may be finally dawning on the multi-nationalists that a UN without US, UK, Australian suppport aint worth much.
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Perhaps Kofi Annan should reflect on some of his past intemperate speech about Australlas treatment of refugees and other issues.
When you read the words "United Nations," what comes into your mind? Perhaps it's an august phrase, such as "international community," or a lofty image, such as the blue U.N. seal. In the first presidential debate, President Bush spoke of "going to the United Nations" as if it were a tiresome relative. ("I didn't need anybody to tell me to go to the United Nations. I decided to go there myself.") Sen. John Kerry often talks about the United Nations as if it were a forgotten American ally.
Yet the United Nations is not a person, or an ally, or a concept. Unlike, say, Britain or Sri Lanka, it isn't even a country with a government to which people are elected. Nor is it a company whose employees are accountable to shareholders. Instead, it is a collection of political appointees whose activities are, by ordinary government or business standards, subjected to shockingly little oversight.
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She's correct, but vastly understates the case.
The UN wasn't even designed to be the sort of supra-national state that is implied by most of the poorly reasoned gibberish coming from the likes of Kerry. Its principle is collective security -- security provided by collaboration of member states, using the UN as a coordinating mechanism and means of marshalling political support. She incorrectly places Bush's and Kerry's references to the UN on the same plane, implying they're both incorrect. Uh uh.
There's also a line that only reads humorously now, about "historical allies" -- unless it refers to the UK, Australia, etc., of course.
Overall, though, while she mentions that it's "odd" that the stupendous scandal represented by UNSCAM has received so little attention, it's clearly much more than that. Outrageous, unbelievable, scandalous in itself. But I suppose Ms. Applebaum can't be expected to state the obvious about out-of-control media distortion.
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This negligence does not, I should add, mean that the United Nations should be kicked out of New York or that the United States should stop paying U.N. dues.
Can anyone supply even a shred of evidence that this asumption is true? Supply links. Neatness counts.
John Kerry has been so busy on the campaign trail spouting "wrong war, wrong place, wrong time" and trying to woo voters with how he's going to "build alliances" to make Iraq all better that he probably hasn't had time to review the tape of fascinating and frustrating testimony that took place in Washington three days before the second presidential debate. The Bush team has a lot of ammo to throw at John Forbes Kerry.
The House Committee on Government Reform's subcommittee investigating the U.N. oil-for-food program heard disturbing accounts of how our "allies" — some of the same countries that cited moral grounds for refusing to back President Bush's pre-emptive move into Iraq — did a first-class job of sabotaging a sanctions program that might have kept Saddam Hussein in check, eliminating the need to shut him down militarily.
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"In terms of being a sanctions regime that stopped Saddam Husseinâs attempts from busting it and cheating, and using funds to get prohibited materials, it was not a total success," testified Ambassador Patrick Kennedy, the U.S. representative to U.N. Management and Reform.
A Harvard man, obviously. Master of Understatement, most likely. "The Tunguska meteorite caused a fairly large bang"...
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Wasn't Kerry's case for allies hurt by the mere fact that the U.N. Security Council passed resolution after resolution for over a decade with no results and no enforcement. The U.N. Security Council is a joke, as is the concept of "building alliances." Alliances form or don't form based on mutual interest. The only way you "sweet talk" people into alliances they would not otherwise make is basically to bribe them with goodies. France can forget that.
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This issue eviscerates Kerry's claim that he would have brought more allies (read France and Germany) on board and achieved UN support for going to war against Iraq. The problem is that Bush cannot go around trumpeting the fact that France, China, and Russia were acting to uphold their part of a bribe-deal with Hussein--he has to deal with those nations and can't slam them publicly. Hopefully some 527 will publicize this issue to the electorate since the MSM isn't doing it (although I saw a special on Fox last night that was devastating).
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This issue eviscerates Kerry's claim that he would have brought more allies (read France and Germany)
This eviscerates the notion that France is an "ally." They were quite clearly on the side of Saddam and were doing all in their power to trash the sanctions regime and with it, containment.
AFTER weeks of trying to link militant Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Bashir to the Jemaah Islamiyah terrorist group, Indonesian prosecutors have produced a huge charge sheet which offers a glimpse into the shadowy world in which he is alleged to have operated. Focusing chiefly on Bashir's alleged role in a deadly attack on Jakarta's JW Marriott hotel in an attempt to invoke serious terrorism charges, with a lesser accusation of indirect links to the Bali bombings, the charges carry few surprises. But what emerges from documents handed to judges on Friday and released in part yesterday is an intriguing account of how prosecutors claim Bashir coerced "followers" into carrying out atrocities long before they were committed.
The indictment says that as head of Jemaah Islamiyah, Bashir made the provocation in April 2000 when he inspected the graduation ceremony of the group's Hudaibiyah military training camp in the Philippines. During that visit, Bashir addressed militants with "instructions on jihad (holy war) and recounted his meeting with Osama bin Laden", the document said. The cleric then ordered a man named Imron Bayhaqi to "deliver Osama bin Laden's fatwa to wage war and kill Americans and their allies" to the group's regional commanders. April 2001 allegedly saw Bashir in the central Indonesian city of Solo. He told Bayhaqi, Malaysian national Muhamad Nasir bin Abas and several others to hit targets "belonging to Western infidels". Bashir's lawyers, who could be defending the cleric within two weeks, described the charge sheet as "complete hogwash that has many legal loopholes".
"Lies! All lies!"
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The Bush administration has repeatedly fingered Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi—self-confessed beheader of U.S. hostage Nicholas Berg and other Western captives—as a critical link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. In the vice presidential debate, Dick Cheney said that after U.S. forces attacked Afghanistan seeking to roust Osama bin Laden, al-Zarqawi "migrated to Baghdad." But other U.S. officials say the Jordanian terrorist's contacts in neighboring Iran are probably more extensive than any dealings he had with Saddam.
Sources close to Jordanian intelligence say al-Zarqawi has gone back and forth across the Iran-Iraq border since Saddam's regime fell. According to a Jordanian intelligence briefing made available to NEWSWEEK, al-Zarqawi crossed the Iranian border after being wounded in Afghanistan in late 2001, was treated, then stayed in an Iranian safe house in the same town as fugitive Qaeda leaders. Later al-Zarqawi traveled to northern Iraq, Syria and Turkey. But he supposedly returned to Iran around March 2002, at which point he was "arrested" by Iranian authorities. Some Jordanian investigators believe that a high-ranking Iranian intel official then established a relationship with him to provide aid.
U.S. officials say that al-Zarqawi was escorted by Iranian authorities to the border with Iraq and expelled in the spring of 2002. Bush aides say he then allegedly spent several months in Baghdad and in an enclave in Iraqi Kurdistan controlled by the Qaeda-affiliated Ansar Al-Islam. But according to the Jordanian briefing, after the invasion of Iraq al-Zarqawi recrossed the border into Iran and was again "captured" by Iranian authorities. Some Jordanian officials believe that during this sojourn in "custody," al-Zarqawi's high-level Iranian contact got in touch again, and this time encouraged him to organize violent resistance to the American occupation of Iraq. Bush officials have said they now believe al-Zarqawi is the most important kingpin of the Iraqi insurgency. American intel agencies agree that he flitted between Iran and Iraq before and after the U.S. invasion. But U.S. analysts are skeptical of Jordanian allegations about a significant relationship between al-Zarqawi and Iranian intelligence. A U.S. official says the CIA believes that while in Iran, al-Zarqawi spent a lot of time trying to evade arrest by Iranian authorities, and because of his apparent antagonism toward Shiite Muslims, al-Zarqawi and Iranian officials wouldn't befriend each other. A U.S. Defense official says, however, that while high-level Iranian-government backing for al-Zarqawi is not substantiated, U.S. intelligence can't rule out the possibility that he might have "friends here and there."
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Iran said Monday it is prepared to temporarily suspend some nuclear activities but would not surrender its right to enrich uranium. The remarks by the country's top nuclear negotiator, Hasan Rowhani, came just as the three major European powers were expected to offer Iran a package of economic incentives in hopes of persuading Tehran to abandon uranium enrichment, a process that can be used to produce fuel for nuclear weapons and reactors.
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yeah right..anyone want to buy some beach front property? Send $2,000 to Iamstupid@aol.com
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What the hell!!! A package of economic incentives to a country that is swimming in petro-dollars (euros, yen, yuan, etc. Is this the best that the EUniks can come up with? With allies dhimmis like them, who needs enimas enemies?
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I am disgusted that my country is playing along in this little game.
TW, I think you've just invented a new catch-phrase...
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Iran reiterated Sunday that it won't accept any proposal depriving it of the right to enrich uranium, saying it can't be bullied into giving up its nuclear energy program, state media reported "Tehran will accept only proposals that meet Iran's national interests and its legitimate right to the peaceful use of nuclear technology," state-run television quoted Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi as saying.
A group of European countries notified the United States on Friday that it intends to offer Iran a package of economic concessions and technological assistance in the hopes of persuading Tehran to give up its uranium-enrichment program. Asefi said Iran has voluntarily suspended actual enrichment of uranium — injecting hexafluoride gas into centrifuges — but that it won't accept a deal to make that suspension permanent because that would go against national interests. "One-side confidence-building measures are subject to change. Europe must accept that it won't get anything by issuing orders to Iran," state television quoted Asefi as saying.
Last month, the International Atomic Energy Agency's board of governors unanimously passed a resolution demanding that Iran freeze all work on uranium enrichment, including uranium reprocessing and building centrifuges used to enrich uranium. The IAEA will meet Nov. 25 to judge Iran's compliance. Iran has said the agency has no authority to ban it from enriching uranium, a right granted under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. But Iran faces growing international pressure to suspend such activities as a good-faith gesture. Defying IAEA demands, Iran said earlier this month that it has converted a few tons of raw uranium into a hexafluoride gas, a stage prior to actual uranium enrichment. Uranium hexafluoride gas is the material that, in the next stage, is fed into centrifuges used to enrich uranium. Uranium enriched to a low level is used to produce nuclear fuel to generate electricity, and enriched further can be used to manufacture atomic bombs.
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The Europeans bullying? I though they were bending over and grabing their ankles. France is falling all over it's self getting ready to proliferate and sell bad stuff to them for some under the table money for the Worms retirement. He is going to need alot to stay out of jail.
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SPod, "Europeans bullying" is just for public consumption. They would not disclose that EUros are bending over backwards and sending straw men only for appearances, now would they. That would be so undiplo! Especially when EUros are willing to sell a rope that Iran can later hang them with, say, in 4-6 years.
"They can't be that stupid, them EURos, can't they?"
Oh, yes! I am an optimist... human stupidity is infinite. :-)
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The Iranians are correct, bullying won't, bombing will. You may launch when ready, Gridley.
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It amazes me that Iran is so vocal when they could be playing close to the vest and delaying the inevitable. Apparently thay haven't studied Kimmie's old Clinton-era playbook. Let the Whack-A-Mullah games begin!
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Sock Puppet of Doom, these turban heads have been projectiong their own evil on to others...the Great Satan thingy fits themselves well.
DEBKAfile reports exclusively: Syrian mortar fire against US and Iraqi border patrols in key smuggling al Qaim region knocks hole in brand-new Syrian-US military cooperation accord. Syrian 82 mm mortar cannonade prevents US-Iraq patrols from approaching border. Smuggling of fighters and weapons continues unabated.
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....Just thinking: given what we already know about the way things work in Syria, it may be possible that there's some commanders out on the border who don't like their little games busted up..
Mike
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jeebus, our little Emily?
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BTW, Happy Birthday, Emily!
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nautae cum puella in concubitu sunt __ there's your dirty latin for the day.
A senior Baath party organiser and Saddam Hussein aide, Mohammed Younis al-Ahmed, has been named by western intelligence officials as one of the key figures directing the Sunni insurgency from Baby Assad's guest house his hiding-place in neighbouring Syria.
Sources have told The Observer that Younis al-Ahmed - who has had a $1 million price tag placed on his head by the US - is one of between 20 and 50 senior Baath party figures based in Syria who, they believe, are involved in organising the guerrilla war against the US-led multi-national forces in Iraq and against the new Iraqi security forces. The naming of Ahmed comes amid growing concern that hardline factions in Syria are providing protection for cells still loyal to the old Iraqi regime who were involved in organising the flow of money, people and material for fighters in Baghdad and the Sunni triangle. This is despite Syrian moves to tighten up its border with Iraq after complaints from Washington and London that arms and foreign terrorists were crossing into Iraq. The intelligence officials believe the activities of the Syrian-based former regime members - who quickly formed into cells after the fall of Saddam - may be a considerably more significant threat to the interim government of Ayad Allawi than the more widely visible activities of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who has been behind a series of beheadings and suicide bombings.
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What's Assad going to do once his Mullah benefactors in Iran go the same route as the Taliban and Saddam. (He could read the writing on the wall, return to London & open up a new medical practice, before he himself needs one)
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KARACHI: Maulana Ikram Tirmizi led a delegation of imams of Shiite mosques to call on Anwar Alam, who is in charge of the MQM's Coordination Committee. Anwar Alam said that the MQM respected all mosques and imambargahs and wanted people from all religious schools of thought to lead their lives peacefully according to their respective creeds. He said people were fanning sectarian fanaticism by killing innocent worshippers in mosques and imambargahs.
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Imambargahs. Is that Arabic for Rantburgs?
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Opposition parties in the National Assembly announced on Monday that they would stay away from house business permanently, saying the parliament had lost its usefulness after the passage of the two-offices bill. Opposition parties also agreed to sign a charter under which no party would allow General Pervez Musharraf to continue or welcome any future general as the country's head. After briefly protesting and boycotting house proceedings, opposition leaders told reporters that they had decided not to participate in house business. "We will neither take part in house proceedings nor resign from our seats. We will use this platform to speak out against the dictatorial regime," said Qazi Hussain Ahmad. He said the ruling coalition had openly violated the Constitution and Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmad had publicly been talking about a presidential form of government. "It is neither a parliamentary nor a presidential form of government. Army rule has been imposed," he added.
Qazi observed that President Musharraf has become controversial and would not be acceptable even if he left the Army. Shah Mahmood Qureshi of the Pakistan People's Party-Parliamentarians observed that policy was being framed outside parliament and it was pointless to sit in the National Assembly. "The government has made parliament into a show-piece for the external world. But, the Commonwealth's recent reaction has vindicated our stance that parliament is not supreme in Pakistan," he added.
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October 15, 2004
THE CONDITIONS FOR THE FAMILIES OF AL-QA'IDA MEMBERS LIVING IN PAKISTAN HAVE BECOME EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. THE MALE FAMILY MEMBERS HIDE IN CAVES, WHILE FEMALE DAUGHTERS WHO PREVIOUSLY MARRIED AT AGE 12 ARE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING HUSBANDS. (AL-HAYAT, LONDON, 10/13/04)
This is your big chance, guys!
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Well I just found out Mr. Davis is now roaming around as Abu Davis, probably snatching up the 12 year-olds. Seems to be a whole lot of this goin on.
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Hmm, tell me more about these 12-year-olds...can they cook ?
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The hell with the 12 year olds. Let's snap up the grammas!
October 18, 2004
SADDAM HUSSEIN PREVIOUSLY DEPOSITED $500 MILLION IN TURKEY'S PEOPLES BANK AS PART OF A SECRET PROTOCOL SIGNED IN 2000 BETWEEN IRAQ AND TURKEY. UNDER THE DEAL, IRAQ SOLD OIL TO TURKEY FOR FOOD SUPPLIES AND MEDICINES, CIRCUMVENTING THE OIL FOR FOOD PROGRAM. (AL-MADA, BAGHDAD, 10/17/04)
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And assuring the 4th ID could not enter the Sunni triangle via Turkey. Frankly, these mofos in Turkey deserve the shiv more than the frogs. Kurdistan NOW!
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And payback for the Armenian genocide, now.
Turkey is on the other side, as much as France is.
Magdi Ahmad Hussein, the Secretary-General of the Egyptian Labor (Islamist) Party, recently appeared on Al-Jazeera TV, declaring that attacks against U.S. troops and civilians in Iraq are legitimate, and that hostage taking is permitted by Islam. He also called for clerics and fighters to go to fight in Iraq, defended the bombings in Taba, andargued that the American attack on Fallujah legitimizes a future terror attack in Los Angeles. To view the MEMRI TV clip of Hussein's statements, visit http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=292. The following are excerpts from the program:
'The Mujahid Should be There [in Iraq], and the Cleric Should be There'
"The American casualties reach 47,000 dead and wounded, according to the American Veterans Association. 20% of the American forces were hurt, but the media only reports the Iraqi and Arab casualties.
"I've seen a film of the so-called 'Monotheism and the Jihad,' which is believed to be the organization of Abu Mus'ab Al-Zarqawi. In the film, I saw that they neutralized a bomb because an Iraqi woman passed by the tank. Out of concern for one Iraqi woman's life they neutralized a bomb and this appears in a film on the Internet and anyone can watch it. I'm not claiming that there are no mistakes. There are different opinions among the Iraqi resistance. But if you want to have an opinion, you should be with them, not us, sitting in air-conditioned rooms and telling them to do this that.
"The mujahid should be there, and the cleric should be there, like Ibn Taymiyya, who set out with the mujahideen to the front lines. But we want to issue fatwas telling them not to do this or that, not to attack so and so. It's like us telling Hamas: 'don't attack buses lest an Israeli child be killed.' Do you have another means? When the Americans bomb [in Iraq] they say they are looking for Abu Mus'ab and the casualties were killed by accident. The Americans have the right to kill civilians accidentally, while the Qassam rockets and the [suicide] martyrs should target only adults, men and women working in the Israeli army, and should tell the children to get off the bus!?"
'If We had Missiles We should have Bombed Los Angeles'
"We are the weak ones. They make demands on us that don't exist in international law. There must be reciprocity. If your city is being bombed⊠Those who bomb Fallujah cannot prevent me from bombing Los Angeles. Why Fallujah? Why do we always feel inferior to them? What is the meaning of this inferiority complex? If we had missiles we should have bombed Los Angeles or any other city until they stopped bombing Fallujah, Samarra, and Ramadi.
"Sir, why do the government clerics ignore the killing of the prisoners during the time of the Prophet? 600-700 prisoners were killed in the raid on the Qurayza tribe. Why do they conceal this? Why do they hide the fact that the Prophet gave the order to assassinate some poets — to assassinate! Not in military operations, but rather by individual assassination. Why did he order the assassination of K'ab Ibn Ashraf, the Jew, leader of Khaybar? And then he ordered the assassination of the leader who successive him. As a result, the Jews became fearful and terrified."
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Why Fallujah? Why do we always feel inferior to them? ...why do the government clerics ignore the killing of the prisoners during the time of the Prophet? ...Why do they hide the fact that the Prophet gave the order to assassinate some poets â to assassinate!
Why do we hate you? Let me count the ways.
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Magdi Ahmad Hussein can become fair game, too if he spouts this tripe. If he had missiles bomb LA, he would not even be a grease spot on the L&N. The West has exercised extreme restraint so far. If we wanted to eliminate Fallujah, we would have levelled Fallujah with not so much as a by-your-leave, sir. This guy is just a hot air bag with a bull's eye target painted on.
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The American casualties reach 47,000 dead and wounded, according to the American Veterans Association.
Really, Magdi Ahmad--may I call you "Maggie?"--you will have to do better than that. Not even CBS is dumb enough to fall for that number.
Those who bomb Fallujah cannot prevent me from bombing Los Angeles.
Here's the difference, Maggie: we can get to Falluja; you probably couldn't find Los Angeles with a Rand McNally atlas and an American Airlines timetable.
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I consider people who male these statements a threat to my security. I evpect my government to protect me from such threats. I expect them to send a team of government employees and kill his worthless ass.
It's what I expect but it won't happen. The people really running the CIA are a bunch of pussies.
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..andargued that the American attack on Fallujah legitimizes a future terror attack in Los Angeles.
You will excuse us then if, as a consequence of a possible future attack, we end up finding and killing all of your fellow terrorists and their sympathizers.
U.S. officials are calling credible a statement attributed to Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's militant group declaring allegiance to Osama bin Laden.
In the statement posted Sunday on Islamist Web sites, the Unification and Jihad group headed by al-Zarqawi promised bin Laden it would "listen to your orders."
A U.S. official said the pledge is in al-Zarqawi's interest "because it increases his standing to be seen as a senior al Qaeda leader." The statement is in al Qaeda's interest, the official said, because "it shows they have someone doing their bidding on the ground in Iraq."
The statement addressed bin Laden as "the sheik" and said al-Zarqawi's movement "badly needed" to join forces with al Qaeda.
"We will listen to your orders," it said. "If you ask us to join the war, we will do it and we will listen to your instructions. If you stop us from doing something, we will abide by your instructions."
U.S. intelligence officials have said there are ties between al-Zarqawi and al Qaeda, although they said the two groups sometimes competed for recruits and funds.
In June, the U.S. State Department offered $25 million for al-Zarqawi, saying he had "a long-standing connection to the senior leadership of al Qaeda." But other observers consider al-Zarqawi a potential rival to bin Laden, whose group was behind the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. (Full story)
Sunday's statement said al-Zarqawi has "exchanged views" with al Qaeda over the past eight months.
"They showed understanding for our strategy, and they showed their support for our strategy and style and system," the group's statement said.
Before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, U.S. intelligence reports suggested al-Zarqawi had his leg amputated in a Baghdad hospital after being wounded fighting U.S. forces in Afghanistan. The allegation was part of Secretary of State Colin Powell's February 2003 presentation to the U.N. Security Council in which he laid out the U.S. case for war.
But in April, a senior U.S. official said that report had been called into question: Al-Zarqawi was thought to have received medical treatment in Baghdad, but reports that he had his leg amputated appeared to have been incorrect, a U.S. official said.
Powell held up al-Zarqawi's al Qaeda-affiliated group operating in Baghdad as evidence of ties between al Qaeda and Iraq. He told the Security Council that after al Qaeda and the Taliban were ousted from Afghanistan, al-Zarqawi established a camp in northeastern Iraq to train terrorists in using explosives and poisons.
Intelligence services disagreed whether the camp was linked to Saddam Hussein's regime, and Iraqi officials steadfastly denied they had any ties to al Qaeda, insisting such charges were part of a U.S. disinformation effort to justify a military attack.
Powell said that during al-Zarqawi's stay in Baghdad, nearly two dozen of his associates set up a base of operations in the capital to move people, money and supplies throughout the country.
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10/18/2004 2:56:49 PM ||
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CF, that is a distinction without much of a difference.
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Zarqawi endorsement of Binny is credible
Left unmentioned was the development behind this determination; the discovery of a pair of well-used kneepads with Zarqawi's name on them in a raid on a Fallujah terrorist safe house.
Leaders of Egypt, Chad, Nigeria and Libya met Sunday with Sudan's president to discuss ways to resolve the humanitarian crisis in his country's western Darfur region without sanctions.
"Boy! More pate over here!"
The "mini-summit" at a Tripoli hotel began late Sunday, after the five leaders broke their daylong fast together for the Muslim holy month of Ramadan and headed into a well-guarded downtown hotel in the Libyan capital.
"More eggs benedict, Olusegun?"
Libyan leader Muammar Gadhafi wore a crimson African robe and a funny hat headdress along with a stunning brooch that had been his mother's as he entered the meeting, which was closed to journalists.
"We're discussing serious humanitarian issues in here. You can't come in!... Here, boy! Take this vichyssois back to the chef and tell him to warm it up. It's cold!"
One topic reportedly was a proposal that Egypt, Libya, Nigeria and Chad create a committee to mediate between the Khartoum government and the rebels in Darfur. There was no word on progress at the meeting, which was expected to last into the morning.
"Yes, by Gum! That's what we need! A committee!"
"How many people are gonna be on it, Hosni?"
"What's the shape of the table gonna be?"
"There ain't gonna be no infidels on it, are there?"
The spokesman for Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said the summit was intended to prove that African leaders can solve their own problems — apparently a jab at efforts in the United Nations to force Sudan to end the fighting.
I guess there's always a first time for everything.
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actually Chad seems pretty serious about this. Teh egyptians and Libyans are likely to try to protect their arab pals. Nigeria could be the swing "vote". Of course id be happier if Uganda and Rwanda were involved.
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I'm not clear on Egypt's current relationship with the Sudan. It has varied in a real love / hate fest over the years. I think many educated Egyptians see the Sudan as a "lost" part of Egypt, subject to future recovery.
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as with most things these, days, nobody really redraws maps. Thats not legitimate. You exercise influence. Syria over Lebanon, forex. Egypt, maybe, over Gaza. Jordan, KSA, Iran, all trying to influence Iraq. Pakland historically trying to find proxies to run afghanistan, versus russian and iranian proxies.
My sense is that egypt has some influence over current govt in Sudan, and would like to increase it. And so they have been taking a sympathetic line to Khartoum.
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A simple nuke on the center of Khartoum would reshape the entire Middle East, and put a stop to some of the stupidest waste of human lives this world has seen since Hitler exterminated the Jews. It would piss off Egypt, scare the bejesus out of everybody else, make the leftists crap their pants, and solve a WHOLE LOT of problems. Most of the problems today is that everybody's allowed to act like a teenager, and nobody wants to play parent. As long at the juveniles get away with it, it will continue and escalate. That's the major error Carter and Clinton made, and it's time to put a stop to all of it. We need to use our most SERIOUS consequences, so that next time we propose something more reasonable, people will be quite willing to accept it. If we're to be forced into the role of world policeman, we need to do it right.
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OP, I still like the idea of mystery black helicopter/gunships paying nighttime visits to Janjaweed camps...
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The Bushehr reactor raid by the Israelis will be on hold until after November 3, Seafarious. Even if the lawyers have their LegalFest over it, the Israelis can commence Operation JayDamn.
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I just like the idea of all the dictators around the world sitting around fidgeting until DEMOCRACY happens. They literally can't make any plans (or specifically, choose which of their nefarious plots they will enact) until the next four years of American leadership is decided. Squirm, dictators!
The chief negotiator for the city of Fallujah dashed hopes for a quick resumption of peace talks despite his release by U.S. and Iraqi authorities. Fallujah negotiator Sheik Khaled al-Jumeili said peace talks to end the standoff in Iraq's major insurgent bastion will remain suspended as a protest against his detention by U.S. troops, who accused him of representing the militants. "The fact is that I'm negotiating on behalf of Fallujah people — civilians, kids, women — who have no power but through being represented by somebody. Since the situation has got up to this, each can go wherever they want and we don't need to talk about negotiations," he told Al-Arabiya TV.
Al-Jumeili told the AP he was released Monday from U.S. and Iraqi custody after being detained Friday after talks broke down over the city's rejection of a demand by Prime Minister Ayad Allawi to turn over terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Al-Zarqawi's group Tawhid and Jihad has claimed responsibility in numerous beheadings and suicide bombings, including two attacks on Baghdad's Green Zone last week that killed six, including four U.S. civilians. Witnesses said al-Jumeili was picked up after leaving a mosque following prayers in a village about 10 miles south of Fallujah. Al-Jumeili said he was taken to a Marine base outside Fallujah and then by helicopter to another location. During his detention, al-Jumeili said he was treated well by the Americans and was not handcuffed or blindfolded like his companions. The other three men have not been released, he said.
That would be the holy man's assistants, Muggsy, Butch and Spike?
The Interior Ministry said al-Jumeili was being released on orders of Allawi. Iraqi officials hope that Fallujah leaders can be persuaded to negotiate a weapons buyback deal similar to one struck with Shiite radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr to end clashes in Sadr City. U.S. forces have been waging days of air and ground assaults in Fallujah, targeting key sites purportedly used by al-Zarqawi associates. The latest U.S. assault began Thursday after Fallujah clerics rejected the "impossible" demand to turn over the terrorist leader, insisting that al-Zarqawi was not in the city. Fallujah fell under control of radical clerics and their armed mujahedeen fighters after U.S. Marines lifted their three-week siege of the city in April.
So how about turning over some of those radical clerics and their armed mujahedeen fighters, just to warm up? Presumably, they're in the city? Or do they commute to work?
The U.S. military has been anticipating a rise in insurgent activity with the start of the holy month of Ramadan.
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Conservative icon Newt Gingrich met with a group of rebellious Sonoma high school students Saturday, saying he was proud of them for defying a ban on flags in their senior class photo. Gingrich, the Georgia Republican who engineered a GOP takeover of the House of Representatives in 1994, was in Sonoma County for a speaking engagement Saturday night. He also met with 10 seniors from Sonoma Valley High School, where two students were suspended and a third faces the same fate after refusing to surrender American flags during the class photo session.
Brandon Downs, 17, said school officials didn't object when students wore shirts with beer logos, although he noted "that's against school rules." Camille Wiles, 17, said Latino students wanted to display Mexican flags in previous years, and teachers told her the school wanted to prevent any problems by banning all flags. The students said school officials told them the class picture wouldn't be sold, and none would be taken next year. After hearing the students describe how they pulled more flags out of their pockets as soon as teachers came up behind them and took them away, Gingrich said: "You guys are pretty persistent." He added: "Anti-flag control. That's fairly Looney Tunes."
"Thay! I rethent that!"
"That s-s-s-statement is unfair!"
"I weally, weally think you're wong, Mr. Gingwich!"
"Now you've gone and hurt our feelings, Doc!"
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Geez - I guess I'm getting old. I remember starting each schoolday off pledging allegiance to the flag - in Ohio. Something tells me that pledging allegiance might no longer be such a ubiquitous event.
EFL
The kidnapping of two Chinese engineers working in an irrigation project in South Waziristan in the Federally-Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) of Pakistan by a group of pro-Osama bin Laden jihadi terrorists last week and the death of one of them on October 13, 2004, during a rescue operation mounted by the US-trained Special Services Group, the parent Army unit of Gen. Pervez Musharraf, draws attention once again to the growing threat to Chinese lives and interests in Pakistan from jihadi terrorists belonging to the International Islamic Front (IIF) of bin Laden. No official figures of the total number of Chinese engineers and other experts based in Pakistan are available. However, the "Dawn" of Karachi (October 17, 2004) puts their number at a couple of thousand. Reliable and independent sources divide these engineers and other experts into the following three groups:
* Those assisting Pakistan in the development of its nuclear and missile capability. They are helping Pakistan in the already commissioned Chashma I nuclear power station, in the designing and construction of the second nuclear power station called Chashma II, and in the running of the production facilities for the extraction of plutonium from spent nuclear fuel and for the assembly and fabrication of the Pakistani versions of the Chinese-designed M-9 and M-11 missiles. Those in this group constitute the largest number.
* Those assisting Pakistan in the construction of a new port at Gwadar in Balochistan, which is expected to reduce Pakistan's dependence on Karachi, presently Pakistan's only major international port and major naval base and in the exploitation of the rich mineral resources of the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan, such as the Saindak copper ore project in Balochistan.
* Those assisting Pakistan in the economic development of the Federally-Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) in which South Waziristan is located and other tribal areas and of the Northern Areas (Gilgit and Baltistan) bordering the Xinjiang Province of China. They constitute the third largest group.
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The UN forces don't need to be organized. They do not need to be there. The UN represents graft, thievery, death and destruction to the Iraqi people. The Iraqi forces need to be continued to be organized and to grow in size and ability. THAT is the bottom line.
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
(Interview with John Kerry)
When you read the words "United Nations," what comes into your mind? Perhaps it's an august phrase, such as "international community," or a lofty image, such as the blue U.N. seal. In the first presidential debate, President Bush spoke of "going to the United Nations" as if it were a tiresome relative. ("I didn't need anybody to tell me to go to the United Nations. I decided to go there myself.") Sen. John Kerry often talks about the United Nations as if it were a forgotten American ally.
A senior Baath party organiser and Saddam Hussein aide, 
Opposition parties in the National Assembly announced on Monday that they would stay away from house business permanently, saying the parliament had lost its usefulness after the passage of the two-offices bill. Opposition parties also agreed to sign a charter under which no party would allow General Pervez Musharraf to continue or welcome any future general as the country's head. After briefly protesting and boycotting house proceedings, opposition leaders told reporters that they had decided not to participate in house business. "We will neither take part in house proceedings nor resign from our seats. We will use this platform to speak out against the dictatorial regime," said Qazi Hussain Ahmad. He said the ruling coalition had openly violated the Constitution and Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmad had publicly been talking about a presidential form of government. "It is neither a parliamentary nor a presidential form of government. Army rule has been imposed," he added.
