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Just to letcha know ...
The links for my blog and e-mail may soon become nonfunctional; their maintainer (ie in charge of hosting payments), a strong anti-idiotarian and pro-Bush conservative, died after being hit by a train on Thursday :( her name was Christine Clouse ...

P.S. Hope this isn’t a TOS violation, though if you deem it so, Fred ...
Posted by: Edward Yee || 03/13/2004 6:10:00 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Aye Robot
The first of 15 driverless robots began trundling across the Mojave Desert on Saturday in an unprecedented race for $1 million in government-funded prize money. The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency is sponsoring the Grand Challenge to foster development of autonomous vehicles that could be used in combat. Defense officials foresee using the driverless, remote control-free robots to ferry supplies in war zones.
Is it just me or does anyone else get that queasy sinking feeling when "autonomous vehicles" and "combat" are used in the same sentence?
First out of the gate was Carnegie Mellon University’s converted Humvee, which took off at a fast clip only to break down about 45 minutes into the race. "That’s not good. I assume that’s the end of it," said Carnegie Mellon President Jared Cohon.
Meanwhile on The Western Front, "I hope chow shows up soon..."
Virginia Tech’s converted golf cart failed within 100 yards of the starting line when its brakes seized up.
That’s ok, Private Simpson will fix it...wait Private Simpson is a robot and she doesn’t do brakes.
If no one finishes, the agency will host another contest, probably in 2006.
Whaddyasay Ranters, we can start building today. I hereby donate an old set of Goodyear’s to the cause. Hmmm, we can use hot air to power it. I wonder where we can find some of that...
Posted by: Zpaz || 03/13/2004 11:55:26 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My money is on NMM.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/13/2004 12:11 Comments || Top||

#2  All kidding aside that would be a fun project to work on...

Anyway Carnegie Mellon was the favorite, the others don't look like they have a chance from what I've seen.

So who's up for the challenge in '06? :)
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/13/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Here is an update in case you did not see the race on ESPN: Robot Race Ends As All Entries Break Down. In an unrelated story, the commies overran US positions on The Western Front.
Posted by: Zpaz || 03/13/2004 15:20 Comments || Top||

#4  This my friends is the future of warfare. People laughed at early versions of most technology we now take for granted. Here is an interesting link.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/13/2004 22:27 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Teacher Given Jail Term, Lashes for Blasphemy
A court in Riyadh sentenced a Saudi teacher accused of denouncing religion to three years in jail and 300 lashes. The man was banned from teaching and writing in newspapers. The court dropped an apostasy charge but found him guilty on other charges of blasphemy.
That's the thing about Islam: once you're in the club, you can't leave. If you need an opinion, somebody will give you one.
Posted by: TS || 03/13/2004 12:19:11 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thank you GWBush for your support for our Saudi allies
Posted by: NotMike Moore || 03/13/2004 1:50 Comments || Top||

#2  What do you want, not-mike, an invasion? In that case, we would have to fabricate a wmd charge and the BBC and Al Reuters would focus on the mangled children, (oh, the children, the children!), appeaser-'tards would riot from coast to coast, James Zogby would go ape-shit over the undoubted desecration of Mecca (even though he is a christian, fat-Z didn't give a flying fuck over the desecration of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre by Arafatists and ISM tools), pious Euro-dupe peace activists would light candles and demand the destruction of violent America and the eradication of its illegitimate cowboy population.

Oh, and you would bitch a lot as well.

For what?

Any evidence of mass graves there? They should already have been found, SA has fewer travel restrictions than the now defunct (no thanks to you) Saddamistan.
Have they invaded and conquered any neighbors lately? Gassed any dissident tribes?

They are bad guys, but the proposed cure, withdrawal of American support, will bring the fanatics to unbridled power and Saddam will look like a choirboy by comparison.

Of course, some in the west, especially terror-appeasers and totalitarians, wouldn't consider that a bad thing.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/13/2004 4:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the Soddy royal family crucified at 50 yard intervals along the Mecca-Medina highway and Mecca itself plowed under and sown with salt. Hey, it worked for the Romans.

Unfortunately, such measures are categorically impossible these days (lefty-promoted cultural sensitivity and all), and continued mitigation and engagement is the best short term strategy.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/13/2004 4:54 Comments || Top||

#4  Another thought, NMM and others. Perhaps the Soddies should start feeding them into plastic shredders. That doesn't seem to bother lefties so much.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/13/2004 5:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Islam - the religion of peace
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/13/2004 7:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Liberalism- the ideology of freedom.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/13/2004 7:40 Comments || Top||

#7  300 lashes? 50 lashes can be enough to kill someone, but 300!? This teacher is going to die.
Posted by: Charles || 03/13/2004 9:11 Comments || Top||

#8  Charles -- they give the lashes in sets, wait for a bit of recovery, and then give more. So he probably won't die.

Why is it that "moderate Muslims" turn out in droves to protests such horrors as the banning of head-scarves in France, yet remain absolutely mum on issues such as this? Is it because they are afraid? -- or because they are really not so moderate after all?
Posted by: closet neo-con || 03/13/2004 12:05 Comments || Top||

#9  Thank you GWBush for your support for our Saudi allies

NMM, seems there was a stretch between 1992-2000 that something could have been done vis a vis the Saudis, but nothing happened then either. Guess you were in rehab then...
Posted by: Pappy || 03/13/2004 14:27 Comments || Top||

#10  NMM do you think the MAC got a chance to send more than two teams to the tourney?
Posted by: Shipman || 03/13/2004 14:35 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
US warns NKorea to stop exporting dangerous weapons or face world action
The United States warned North Korea that it would face action from the international community if it does not stop exporting dangerous weapons and other illegal activities. "If North Korea will not act, it will find the United States, its allies and other partners equally prepared to respond with measures that ensure North Korea cannot threaten our countries or international stability," said Mitchell Reiss, the department's director of policy planning.
That's going to pucker a few sphincters in NKor-land.
Speaking at the Heritage Foundation, one of Washington's leading repositories of expertise on East Asia, Reiss said the United States was taking steps to enforce its laws against alleged narcotics trafficking and counterfeiting of US currency by the rogue state. He said these steps were ongoing and unrelated to the current six-party negotiations -- which include North and South Korea), Japan, the United States, China and Russia -- to ease the nuclear standoff in North Korea. "We are entitled to expect legal behaviour from all countries." "With or without a denuclearization agreement, North Korea must cease its exports of dangerous weapons and the wide scope of its illegal activities," Reiss said.
That's pretty blunt; somebody's sending a signal.
Washington would also pursue with its so called proliferation security initiative, a programme to counter the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and missiles, he said. "We will insist on full accountability by the North Korean regime and its agents for their behaviour," Reiss said. "The choice, ultimately, is theirs."
"Whereas the use of Los Angeles class boats is ours."
North Korea called the US demand "criminal" and said progress was impossible because of "the fundamental difference between the DPRK and the US in their stands."
I really hate it when I'm forced to agree with KCNA about progress.
Posted by: Steve White || 03/13/2004 12:56:33 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can we just take this guy out already... Let alone the fact that this psycho represents a huge threat to our national security, the thought of all those millions starving in north korea makes me sick.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/13/2004 14:25 Comments || Top||

#2  How are they doing the exports? By ship? Does anybody really think that if these rust buckets started to "sink of their own accord" the world would give a rats ass.
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 03/13/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||

#3  "load tubes one and two!"
Posted by: Frank G || 03/13/2004 18:42 Comments || Top||


South Korea Alerts U.S. to 'Crisis'
South Korea's Defense Minister said Saturday that the president's impeachment caused a "crisis situation in the supreme military command," and urged U.S. military assistance in maintaining "impeccable vigilance without the slightest wavering."
Somebody in the chain of commmand get nervous?
The South Korean military heightened its awareness toward communist North Korea after President Roh Moo-hyun was impeached, but no unusual military movements had been reported along the tense inter-Korean border by Saturday. The comments came before a morning meeting between Cho Young-kil and U.S. Gen Leon J. LaPorte, commander of U.S. Forces in Korea, which station 37,000 troops on the divided peninsula. Details of Saturday's meeting were not immediately known. The talks followed a phone call Friday night by South Korean Foreign Minister Ban Ki-moon to Secretary of State Colin Powell in which Ban said Seoul would "maintain its close alliance with the United States." Ban also said there would be no change in Seoul's policy toward North Korea.
... whatever the hell it is.
Posted by: Steve White || 03/13/2004 1:26:25 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  sounds like thier worried about kimmie and the norks staeming south while the goverments in a state of confusion/dissaray.
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/13/2004 6:45 Comments || Top||

#2  I would be too. With the South in political turmoil, the military may have divided loyalties. Sure, they would come together when NK invaded, but by then it would be a bloodbath. And Kimmy is just the type to try an take advantage of this situation.

Too bad for Kimmy we're still in SK.
Posted by: Charles || 03/13/2004 9:09 Comments || Top||

#3  How have the plans to move back from the tripwire DMZ positions been going? Implemented yet? I'd hate to see our boyz on the frontlines with a chaotic rearguard
Posted by: Frank G || 03/13/2004 9:19 Comments || Top||

#4  maintaining "impeccable vigilance without the slightest wavering

Hmmmmm, this guy's on the wrong side.
8.9 because of SKOR handicapped by No Juche and No Army First and No Dear Leader allowance.

Posted by: Shipman || 03/13/2004 10:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Put the anti-US protesters up on the border. Come-out come-out where-ever you are. **cricket** **cricket**
Posted by: John Kairy || 03/13/2004 10:35 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Traitors in our fight for survival
HOW evil that while Spain drags out its dead, our academics and arts bosses roll out a blood-red carpet for apologists for similar terror. From Madrid came pictures of what’s left of the trains and people who were blown up by bombers possibly from al-Qaida. "I saw a baby torn to bits," said one survivor, Ana Maria Mayor, her voice cracking. That baby was the target of these killers, and so were the thousands of innocents -- mothers, fathers, children -- who travelled with her or him.

Sorry. There’s the word "innocent" that so irks Yvonne Ridley, in Melbourne this week as a guest of Monash University. You may have heard her on Jon Faine’s show on ABC 774. She’s the British journalist who converted to Islam and worked for the extremist al Jazeera Islamic news service. What you didn’t hear on the show, however, is that Ridley reportedly told a Belfast meeting of the Islamic Students Association in January there was no innocent Israeli when it came to suicide bombings. Not even children. "There are no innocents in this war," she raged, because children could grow up to be Israeli soldiers. And talk of "suicide bombers" was "insulting": "Let’s call suicide bombers by their proper name, which is martyrs." This is a woman who wed a colonel in the terrorist PLO, and who says the jailed Abu Hamza, spiritual head in Europe of al-Qaida, is "so nice" that "I don’t have a problem with him".

Yet here she is as the guest of Monash University’s funky School of Social and Political Inquiry, one of those taxpayer-funded bodies devoted to the trivial and recklessly perverse -- a true sign of our decline into barbarity. The school’s head, Peter Lentini, for instance, gets big grants from the Australian Research Council to write Raging Against the Machine: Popular Music, Politics and Identity and to do a "comparative study of Australian and American soccer supporters’ cultures". That’s when he’s not working on "identity politics in the Melbourne punk community".

But so many of our public institutions have this cultural death wish, thus aiding those who side with barbarians in their war against civilisation. SBS recently ran yet another "documentary" by "journalist" John Pilger in which he claims the US is far more evil than the genocidal Saddam Hussein. On Wednesday, Pilger appeared on ABC TV’s Lateline to promote his noxious views and declare it was "incredibly important" that the "resistance" in Iraq defeated the US, and so stop it from confronting, say, North Korea or Iran. Yes, true. He was asked: "Can you approve in that context the killing of American, British or Australian troops who are in the occupying forces?" His answer: "Well yes, they’re legitimate targets." What about policemen of newly liberated Iraq being blown up by suicide bombers? They were targets, too, Pilger said, because they were "collaborators" and "vicious". And what about the women and children splattered over a mosque by yet more suicide bombers, linked to al-Qaida? "Well, of course, the killing of innocent people can’t be condoned under any circumstances, but in all resistances, it happens," Pilger shrugged.

This apologist for terrorists -- this moral pygmy -- is not only welcomed into an ABC studio and promoted by SBS, but is honoured with an exhibition by the Melbourne Museum. All paid for by you. Likewise, the Melbourne Writers Festival, also backed by taxpayers, last year hired as its keynote speaker Tariq Ali, the Trotskyist agitator who endorses the murder of Iraqi "collaborators" -- like, I assume, the dozens of Iraqi Red Cross workers and United Nations staff who were blown up by suicide bombers. Sydney University last year gave its Sydney Peace Prize to Hanan Ashrawi of the PLO, whose boss, Yasser Arafat, runs an Al Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade that bombs buses filled with Israeli women and children. And Melbourne University lecturer Janet McCalman trilled that "the shocking events of September 11 may have served some good purpose if they awakened the complacent", such as, she said, "naive" Yankee tourists.

The evil Spanish bombings show we are in a war to defend civilisation -- a war that now stretches from Madrid to Melbourne and New York to Bali. But not all the enemies of our civilisation are Islamic or foreigners. Many are people we pay to defend our culture, but, we find, betray it instead.
Posted by: tipper || 03/13/2004 2:42:50 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  what's the problem - they are anti-war? Don't you GET IT?? They support blowing up babies and innocent people because they are for resistance, not war. They are cool - you are uncool.

Be cool man!! Be the dude!! Like antiwar - he's cool, he's THE DUDE! He's, like, sooo 60's. Sssseehhhh ...supporting things like Christianity - feeding the hungry, faith, hope chairty- SCOFF - that's all bullshit - those people who feed the hungry are all phonies!! Do you think they give their evening's left over doggie bags to the homeless like antiwar does??? No way!!

Supporting democracy and common sense - SOOOOO UNCOOL. Supporting Jihad - now THAT's COOl!!! Cut the head off non-believers.

Join hands to support the spoiled children of tyrants who dig mass murder. Those who oppose death and destruction (to Israel and America)....they are zionist Jew loving racist pigs!

Be cool man - support rape rooms, Pol Pot, Castro and genocide. Be anti-war.
Posted by: B || 03/13/2004 15:05 Comments || Top||

#2  I've often found that when one listens to what the "anti-war" crowd says they are often anything but. Except they thenselves are so blind to their own perceptions of the world that they can confuse themselves. We saw it in New York right after 9-11. We still see it every day
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 03/13/2004 15:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Yes indeed. A small percentage of the anti-war leaders are legitimate pacifists. I repectfully disagree with them. Most are inspired by Marxism or anarchism, two of the most bloodly ideologies ever formulated. They are not, have nver been, and will never be, anti-war. They love war -- as long as its against us.
Posted by: closet neo-con || 03/13/2004 15:30 Comments || Top||

#4  There is an anti-war movement and it's actually something I respect. But the # of people that are really anti-war is a very small % of the population. They are against all violence and live by that belief. The VAST majority of the people in the "anti-war" move are communists, fascists and fundamentalists who have subverted the movement and made it their own. They hide behind an anti-war cloak but they are anything but. This is why you see so many anti-semites and anti-capitalists in the "anti-war" movement today. It's a result of their removal from power in the soviet union, germany etc... they've been forced to sink into the shadows in their attempt to achieve their goals.

The true anti-war people were so excited to get this influx of capital and membership into their organizations that they were blind to what was really going on and at this point their voice in the organizations that they started is all but muted.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/13/2004 15:31 Comments || Top||

#5  As American morons, Israeli Jews bastards, spaghetti twisters Italians, and Brits euro hillbilly, and for last the Spaniards masses are discovering.
The last 25 years of oil driven Zionistic inspirited financed politics of oppression and suppression and cultural and moral degradation of financial, cultural and economic WAR waged against Arabs and Middle East people for the sole benefit of the racist and unnatural state of Israel and is vociferous supporters.
Is causing is repercussions
Also supported by the masses of complacent media laborers trying to please their Jew bosses
The message is you vote for a Zionist thief bastard anti Arab politician you paid the consequences
As this is the price to paid for voting and putting in place pro or Zionist scum.
There is not difference between wage a war with trained soldiers and state of the art weapons that kill people’s civilians and or complainers in Arabs countries, and the people blow to bits in “Civilized “western world
There is not difference between the blood of Iraqi, afganistan, or Palestinian child blow by warmongers bastards, and the child kill in Haifa, Madrid or New York
Posted by: Eleano || 03/13/2004 15:52 Comments || Top||

#6  Whoa, we've got a live one here! LMAO
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/13/2004 16:05 Comments || Top||

#7  There is not difference between the blood of Iraqi, afganistan, or Palestinian child blow by warmongers bastards, and the child kill in Haifa, Madrid or New York

No one ever said there was
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 03/13/2004 16:07 Comments || Top||

#8  a real, live, brain-dead one.
Posted by: B || 03/13/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||

#9  I really have to protest against the word "moral pgymy"... a grave insult to some fine African people.

John Pilger is one of those guys who better pray that they never meet me.
Posted by: True German Ally || 03/13/2004 16:12 Comments || Top||

#10  Sheesh, where to begin? Fisking such screeching is pointless - you just have to take the pkg, the message in toto, and accept that there are murderous lunatic fucktards amongst us. If I didn't know the Arabs, I might say to Eleano, "Yo, Izzoidboy, suck me!" - but he would probably be favorably inclined and call my bluff. Kill it - it's broken and it can't be fixed - sorry Ketchup Grrl - it's real blood you LLL idjit.

As for Yvonne Ridley and John Pilger, their individual moments of truth will arive when their buddies bring "resistance" to their cushy complacent home territory. When they kill a few hundred Hyde Park Rangers or blow up Albert Hall and the Sydney Opera, well, I guess then we'll see if their Lunar Support Base feels quite so "progressive". Meanwhile, the Ketchup-Grrls of the world will continue to sit on boards and councils and push to fund this UnApologist Jet Set out of taxpayer pockets.

Sadly, some people seem inured to the facts. I guess, in the end, there's just no substitute for finding the blood of your dead dismembered baby splattered all over your face and then hearing Yvonne (or her ilk) explaining to your neighbors that an insanely pointless slaughter was actually a glorious act of martyrdom.
Posted by: .com || 03/13/2004 17:01 Comments || Top||

#11  Eleano--terrorist Islamic shitheads come to Spain and the US and kill Westerners, and it's all the fault of the Jews of course. Here's hoping the next bomb falls on your mom's head. Meanwhile, enjoy your dhimmitude.
Posted by: BMN || 03/13/2004 17:02 Comments || Top||

#12  I liked the "spaghetti twisters Italians" thing. Never heard of that one.

Y'ever wonder, how it is that 300 million Arabs come to believe that all their problems are caused by a mere 6 million Jews occupying a largely worthless plot of land the size of New Jersey, and that they themselves are utterly blameless for their miserable condition?

How do people end up believing a load of crap like that? What is it, something in the water over there that makes them crazy? Is it bad genes? False religion? What is it?

Just for kicks, Google on the phrase "1.2 billion helpless Muslims" and read a fine article by a typical raving moonbat raghead.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/13/2004 17:07 Comments || Top||

#13  Super Hose! Super Hose!
Per your request of Thursday.

Eleano <----------------- it's the McCoy
Posted by: Shipman || 03/13/2004 19:05 Comments || Top||

#14  I was wondering where Yvonne went. I was hoping she was some Taliban regiments' fuck toy by now.
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/13/2004 21:06 Comments || Top||

#15  Until about half through I thought I was reading quite a good parody. I then realized Eleano actually believes this demented crap. These idiots don't seem to grasp that each new outrage brings them closer to what they claim is already happening, a war to exterminate Islam. We need to rename the WoT to the War on Islam.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/13/2004 21:10 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Democrats Attempt Massive Voter Fraud in Chicago
Posted by: Karma || 03/13/2004 15:42 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ah, it must be election day. the cemetaries in the Windy City are emptying. Remember vote early and vote often
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 03/13/2004 16:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Chicago - the city that popularized the phrase "Vote early and often!". The city where death is not an impediment to voting Democrat. Guilty of massive voting fraud? I'm shocked - truly shocked.
Posted by: A Jackson || 03/13/2004 16:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Attempt?
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/13/2004 16:16 Comments || Top||

#4  I remember the time Lil Richies father made sur eevery body got a new garbage can just before election day. No lids though. They came after the election as athank you
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 03/13/2004 16:28 Comments || Top||

#5  We have Islamic voting practices here in Chicago. Face toward Daley Plaza and vote five times a day.
Posted by: Scott || 03/13/2004 17:53 Comments || Top||

#6  My Wifes grandsparents (God rest their souls) have consistantly voted Democrat. Three times since we planted them!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 03/13/2004 18:41 Comments || Top||

#7  No lids though. They came after the election as athank you

Now that's an effective goverment.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/13/2004 19:07 Comments || Top||

#8  I lived in Chicago for 15 years and that headline is strictly "dog bites man".

I miss Chicago and who knows? I may still be voting there!
Posted by: JDB || 03/13/2004 20:15 Comments || Top||

#9  Extra! Extra! Voter Fraud In Chicago!
Extra! Extra!...
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/13/2004 21:12 Comments || Top||

#10  Do you think that there will ever be a day when voter fraud in Cook County, IL can be eliminated? Right now the Dems. control almost every major 'elected' office in the state because of this problem.
Posted by: azul93gt || 03/14/2004 13:38 Comments || Top||


Bush Takes Back The Lead As ’Primary Effect’ Wanes
President Bush has regained the lead from Sen. John Kerry in the latest IBD/TIPP Poll as the boost the challenger got from the Democratic primaries wears off and the incumbent starts his own campaign in earnest. The nationwide poll of 863 adults taken last Monday through Thursday showed that, among 743 registered voters, Bush leads Kerry 45% to 40%, with 6% going to Independent Ralph Nader. In a two-way race Bush leads Kerry 46% to 43%.

A week earlier, Bush trailed Kerry in IBD/TIPP polling by a 44%-41% margin. But the president reclaimed support in his traditional strongholds. Bush now leads Kerry 56% to 33% in Republican-loyal, or "red," states, 51% to 38% in the South and 49% to 40% in the Midwest. Bush’s lead in swing states, however, has narrowed to 1 point from 4. But Kerry’s lead in Democrat-loyal (blue) states has shrunk to 9 points from 12, and his advantage in urban areas has narrowed to 10 points from 18. In suburban areas, Bush’s lead widened to 18 points from 13. In rural America, a traditional Bush stronghold, Kerry ran even in the week-earlier survey. But now Bush is back up by 14 points. "The week before, the picture was distorted in aftermath of the primaries," said Raghavan Mayur, president of TIPP, a unit of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence and IBD’s polling partner. Now, after Democratic candidates’ months-long questioning of Bush policies, "things are returning to normal," he said.

The president’s ad campaign may also be bearing its first fruits, Mayur said. News from Iraq also took a turn for the better, he noted, with the signing of an interim constitution. Another possible factor, Mayur said, is resurgent Christian activism brought about by the emotional stirrings of Mel Gibson’s blockbuster film, "The Passion of the Christ." In contrast to the volatile numbers for Bush and Kerry, the vote for Nader stayed the same. In a two-candidate race, where Bush has a 46%-43% lead, 10% are undecided. In a three-way race, Bush’s lead expands by 2 percentage points – 45% to 40%, with Nader at 6% and undecideds at 7%. Nader draws more voters from Kerry than Bush. Over half (51%) of those favoring Nader mentioned that they would vote for Kerry in a two-candidate poll question. Only a sixth (17%) would vote for Bush. "Nader is clearly an asset for the president," said Mayur. The IBD/TIPP poll has a margin of error plus/minus 3.4 percentage points.
Posted by: ne1469 || 03/13/2004 12:26:28 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  should be in Homefront - Politix. Good article. Bush has a distinct opportunity to paint the Kerry portrait, which for most Americans says just "Senator, rich, viet nam vet" right now.....
Posted by: Frank G || 03/13/2004 12:49 Comments || Top||

#2  The ONLY poll that counts will be taken in November, until then they are just dry-humping the electorate. I always love a good CNN/USA Poll. Remember the one that showed Howling Howard some 20 points ahead going to the Iowa cacus? I think your remember what happened there.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 03/13/2004 13:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Bush's secret plan to win the election is 8 more months of camera time showing the self absorbent Jr. Senator from Massachusets doing his bad JFK impression with the camera angle always showing standing behind him is the Senior Senator from Massachusets, Teddy "Wheres my Gin Bottle" Kennedy. Thats the most subliminal " Im a loser" message if I ever saw one.

Everytime I see Kerry, I know why we lost in Vietnam.

This is the best guy the Dems could come up with? Atleast Howard Dean was interesting.
Posted by: Frank Martin || 03/13/2004 14:01 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm not too surprised at this. And I wouldn't be surprised to see the trend continue.

The only way the Democrats can keep their most diehard core constituents fired up is by continuing to grossly misrepresent, in the most extravagant terms possible, not only Bush and his administration's policies, but also the realities of contemporary American life.

Listening to the Democrats, you'd think we Americans are in the most desperate of straits: most of us unemployed, and even the lucky few of us who still have jobs anymore are kept awake at night worrying whether we'll still have one come morning or whether our job will have been outsourced to India; the American economy is in the worst shape since the Great Depression- literally on the brink of collapse; our troops in Iraq are getting slaughtered in huge numbers by a rising tide of jihadis enraged by George Bush's arrogant refusal to take orders from Kofi Annan; elderly Americans, lacking even the most basic of assistance, are starving in the streets in droves; the cost of even the most rudimentary medical care places it far beyond the means of all but the most wealthy among us; white supremacists are indulging in a spasm of racist violence against minorities; rich, fat-cat white-collar criminals are robbing us of our life savings left and right in a crime spree masterminded by Dick Cheney himself; and to top it all off, the French no longer treat us with their customary fawning adoration.

But eventually, cognitive dissonance is going to set in: after listening to enough of this depressing, delusional Demo-crap, most Americans are likely to start wondering, "What the fuck are these people talking about? What the fuck is WRONG with them, anyway???"

But Bush has got to come out swinging soon, though, and start countering the Democrats' lies, hypocrisies and ineffectual policy proposals. The best advice I've seen yet, is Peggy Noonan's: don't try to get the public angry at John Kerry; get them to laugh at him.

God knows, he sure is laughable.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/13/2004 14:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Dave, hilarious and right on target!
(Are you sure you don't work for Kerry's campaign?!)
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 03/13/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#6  "(Are you sure you don't work for Kerry's campaign?!)"

Uh, Jennie, I'm normally a very perceptive guy, but I gotta say: you lost me there. Clarify, please?
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/13/2004 15:19 Comments || Top||

#7  One sentence into ANY Frank Martin comment and I always recognize the style *hehe*. Wait for Kerry to do his "I have a scream" speech(es) and for Bush to respond with clarity, "John, name the names of the crooked. Prove the allegations of 'misleading' the public. Deny the surrogates' claims of coups. Otherwise, take your valium and shut the hell up." Kerry's already started the VRWC rants; those play best on Democrat Underground and SNL. They won't play well as a single note running eight months on Main Street, unless they play as an ever more tiresome joke. Funny the first time, logarithmically less funny with each subsequent reiteration...
Posted by: TiltingWindmill || 03/13/2004 16:46 Comments || Top||

#8  Dave D: nicely done. I like it.
Posted by: Steve White || 03/13/2004 17:28 Comments || Top||

#9  It is obvious that Dave D. is a pro.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/13/2004 19:37 Comments || Top||

#10  Thanks, but if I were a pro I wouldn't have omitted one of the most important parts of the Democrats' standardized litany of woe: The Environment!

The Democrats would have us believe that after just 36 months of stewardship by "Bush and the Corporate Despoilers" we are once again breathing foul, acrid air that burns the eyes; birds are once more dropping dead out of our skies; the deformed, ulcerated carcasses of poisoned fish float lifelessly on the iridescent surfaces of rivers filmed over with greasy industrial toxins; arsenic pollutes our drinking water while huge, sticky gobbets of spilt crude oil wash up on our seashores; garbage chokes our overflowing landfills; and hundreds of species of flora and fauna perish each and every second as once-lush forests give way to barren landscapes of nothing but stumps as far as the eye can see.

Does that about cover the Democrats' standard song and dance, environment-wise?
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/13/2004 22:15 Comments || Top||

#11  Dave,

Thanks for reveiwing that. I feel worse already.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/13/2004 22:31 Comments || Top||


Poll: Arab-Americans prefer Kerry
Wonder why? Think he’ll play this up? I wouldn’t, but I certainly hope he does
A poll released Friday indicates Arab-Americans in four states would choose Sen. John F. Kerry, D-Mass., over George Bush in the U.S. presidential election. The Zogby poll conducted for the Arab-American Institute has Kerry at 54 percent against 30 percent for Bush when the two are matched head-to-head. When liberal activist Ralph Nader, who is mounting a third-party challenge, is added to the mix, he polls at 20 percent, while Kerry’s support falls to 43 percent and Bush’s drops to 27 percent. The poll of 501 registered Arab-American voters also found that only 28 percent would vote to re-elect Bush while 65 percent said they would prefer someone new. The four states in which the survey was conducted were Ohio, Florida, Michigan and Pennsylvania. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.4 percent
Posted by: Frank G || 03/13/2004 11:41:04 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Affluent, educated Arab americans are voting with their dollars in support of Bush. The NY Times did a story a couple weeks back on this. Gotta find the link. FWIW Monday's Investors Business Daily is out today with a poll that shows Bush's poll numbers snapping back nicely across the board, shows him in the lead with or without Nader in the race. Bush going on the offensive is starting to work. God Bless America and Bush.
Posted by: ne1469 || 03/13/2004 12:12 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd like to see a poll of Iraqi-Americans and Afghan-Americans.
Posted by: Matt || 03/13/2004 15:02 Comments || Top||

#3  For what it's worth, John Zogby's brother Jim is now officially affiliated with the Democratic National Party after being active in Arab-American issues for many years.

I'm not sure though how many 'followers' Jim and his group have. Most of the Arab-Americans here in upstate NY (and there are many) are pretty socially conservative and family oriented. Very patriotic, too. Ideal Republicans actually.

I think the poll may be skewed towards more urban areas.
Posted by: JDB || 03/13/2004 20:23 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder what the poll numbers for christian arabs would look like?
Posted by: Phil B || 03/13/2004 22:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Affluent, educated Arab americans are voting with their dollars in support of Bush.
Here's the link to the Feb 17 posting.
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/13/2004 23:17 Comments || Top||


The Boston Fog Machine - The Foragainst Method
Excellent David Brooks’ article in NY Times, caught via Powerline
The 1990’s were a confusing decade. The certainties of the cold war were gone and new threats appeared. It fell to one man, John Kerry, the Human Nebula, to bring fog out of the darkness, opacity out of the confusion, bewilderment out of the void. Kerry established himself early as the senator most likely to pierce through the superficial clarity and embrace the miasma. The gulf war had just ended. It was time to look back for lessons learned. "There are those trying to say somehow that Democrats should be admitting they were wrong" in opposing the gulf war resolution, Kerry noted in one Senate floor speech. But he added, "There is not a right or wrong here. There was a correctness in the president’s judgment about timing. But that does not mean there was an incorrectness in the judgment other people made about timing."
huh?
For you see, Kerry continued, "Again and again and again in the debate, it was made clear that the vote of the U.S. Senate and the House on the authorization of immediate use of force on Jan. 12 was not a vote as to whether or not force should be used."
logic 101? must’ve missed that, and he was a debater at Yale
In laying out the Kerry Doctrine — that in voting on a use-of-force resolution that is not a use-of-force resolution, the opposite of the correct answer is also the correct answer — Kerry was venturing off into the realm of Post-Cartesian Multivariate Co-Directionality that would mark so many of his major foreign policy statements.
I wish I could remember that phrase - I’d like to use it later
The next crisis occurred in Somalia. Again, the U.S. Senate faced what appeared to lesser minds as a clear choice: to withdraw in the wake of U.S. casualties or not to withdraw. The oxymoronically gifted junior senator from Massachusetts perceived an equivocation between the modalities: "The choice for the United States of America is not between two alternatives only: staying in or getting out. There are many other choices in-between which better reflect the aspirations and hopes of our country." Kerry backed a policy of interventionist withdrawal, which jibed with the "third way" option embraced by President Bill Clinton himself. As Kerry noted, "I think that the president today made the right decision to try to establish a process which will maintain the capacity of our forces, protect them, and to disengage while simultaneously upholding the mission we have set out to accomplish."
I guess if they're not doing anything they're safe. But they're not doing anything, either...
The Balkan crisis emerged, and again the Congress seemed to face a tough decision, whether to authorize the use of American force. But then the Boston Fog Machine rolled in: "It is important to remember that this resolution does not authorize the use of American ground troops in Bosnia, nor does it specifically authorize the use of air or naval power. It simply associates the U.S. Senate with the current policies of this administration and of the Security Council." The vote, Kerry concluded, was over whether to associate with a process that would determine certain necessary conditions involving uncertain modalities, which must be explored, in order to reach certain desirable ends.
"The proper approach would be to get ready to make preparations to have a meeting to decide on options for discussion..."
The Iraq problem returned in 1998, and Kerry proved again that there is no world crisis so grave it can’t be addressed with a fusillade of subordinate clauses. Teams of highly trained spelunkers have descended into the darkness of the floor speech he gave on Oct. 10, 1998, searching for meaning, though none have returned alive. In a characteristic sentence, which admittedly sounds better in the original French, Kerry exclaimed: "We know from our largely unsuccessful attempts to enlist the cooperation of other nations, especially industrialized trading nations, in efforts to impose and enforce somewhat more ambitious standards on nations such as Iran, China, Burma and Syria, that the willingness of most other nations — including a number who are joined in the sanctions to isolate Iraq — is neither wide nor deep to join in imposing sanctions on a sovereign nation to spur it to `clean up its act’ and comport its actions with accepted international norms." Can anyone say Churchillian?
Only in basic English.
Kerry has made clear that if he is elected president, the nation will never face a caveat shortage. He has established the foragainst method, which has enabled him to be foragainst the war in Iraq, foragainst the Patriot Act and foragainst No Child Left Behind. If you decide to vote for him this year, there would be a correctness in that judgment, but if you decide to vote for George Bush, that would also be correct.
In the NY TIMES, even! That oughta get the thin-skinned haughty French-looking patrician, who, by the way served in Viet Nam’s dander up
Posted by: Frank G || 03/13/2004 11:20:57 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Churchill speaks:

"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."

Kerry replies (loosely adapted from his Time magazine interview):

Will we fight?: "I didn't say that,..I can't tell you...It's possible...It's not a certainty...If I had known...No, I think you can still ? wait, no. You can't ? that's not a fair question and I'll tell you why,"
Posted by: Matt || 03/13/2004 11:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Scary stuff, Frank.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/13/2004 12:03 Comments || Top||

#3  And I damn sure meant it. And if the German's had gotten lucky I'd sent the fleet and the RAF and what remained of the empire to Canada, whence we would revictual and gird our loins and get several cases of whip ass and prepare to commence to be angry and generally lay down the law so that if the empire lasts for a thousand years (and it will) they would say... this, this, was their most efficient hour.
Posted by: Boss of Hatfield || 03/13/2004 12:39 Comments || Top||

#4  "We know from our largely unsuccessful attempts to enlist the cooperation of other nations, especially industrialized trading nations, in efforts to impose and enforce somewhat more ambitious standards on nations such as Iran, China, Burma and Syria, that the willingness of most other nations — including a number who are joined in the sanctions to isolate Iraq — is neither wide nor deep to join in imposing sanctions on a sovereign nation to spur it to `clean up its act’ and comport its actions with accepted international norms."

Wait, I think... No. No, I don't get it.
Posted by: Charles || 03/13/2004 14:38 Comments || Top||

#5  So this is what they mean by nuanced speech? It's just circular babble. In psychiatric terms I believe this is referred to as affected speech and is characteristic of some flavor of schizophrenia.

Do we have any RBers who are practitioners who can help out here and explain it better / clarify / simplify?
Posted by: .com || 03/13/2004 16:29 Comments || Top||

#6  It sounds like George Soros was writing Kerry's spew then, too.
Posted by: Hyper || 03/13/2004 18:41 Comments || Top||

#7  I am scared, really scared, if this guy gets close to the big O. I knew him when I was in DC and he was an aloof money-grubber who would say and do anything. I don't want him with his finger in the air over Cape Cod making decisions. Do you?
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 03/13/2004 21:43 Comments || Top||


Poll: Kerry would be choice of terrorists
A survey by a Washington pollster released Friday found a majority of those surveyed think terrorists would prefer to have Sen. John F. Kerry as president. The Andres McKenna Research survey of 800 registered voters shows Kerry defeating Bush in the general election, 47 percent to 45 percent, with 9 percent undecided. Asked, "Who do you think the terrorists would prefer to have as president," the independent poll found that 60 percent said Kerry while 25 percent said Bush. The poll, which has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points, also found that 51 percent of those surveyed thought Bush would win the 2004 election against 39 percent who said Kerry.
Posted by: Karma || 03/13/2004 1:42:07 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah--the Democrats are going after The AL Qaeda vote since the Kenneth Lay and all the Fat Cats are for this failed. lying administration
Posted by: NotMike Moore || 03/13/2004 2:02 Comments || Top||

#2  While you were out NMM we discussed this issue and Dar e-mailed this to a t-shirt vendor:
.... and collectively a few of us(@Rantburg.com) have come up with what I hope you’ll think is a great idea for a new t-shirt.
We’d love to see a picture of John Kerry on the front with the slogan “4 out of 5 dictators prefer Kerry!”
On the back underneath the “streetperson” mugshot of Saddam Hussein would read “The 5th couldn’t be reached for comment.”

We'll work on one to include you if we can find an ugly enough picture.
Posted by: GK || 03/13/2004 7:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Put me down for one! No a couple!
Posted by: Phil B || 03/13/2004 7:56 Comments || Top||

#4  GK - "an ugly enough picture"
How about Dean is full-screech mode? Looked like he was gonna pop an artery or two. For some reason, that's the general sort of image I get when reading NMM's brain farts.
Posted by: .com || 03/13/2004 8:18 Comments || Top||

#5  *Dean screaching photo* Liberalism: Better than Crack.
Posted by: Charles || 03/13/2004 9:05 Comments || Top||

#6  NMM, first Jeffrey Skilling plea bargains and promises to turn evidence on Lay (already happened), then Lay will go to prison (soon to happen). Whatever will you have to rant about? I forgot, you'll always have Paris Florida and Gore
Posted by: Frank G || 03/13/2004 9:54 Comments || Top||

#7  NMM are for a BlogFoeAmerica Partisan are do you prefer ChangeFoeAmerica? I've a hunch you kinda into Joe Trippi (or vice versa). Can't Wait Till the 18th! Woot Woot!

Posted by: Shipman || 03/13/2004 10:17 Comments || Top||

#8  GK (and Dar) I like the T-shirt idea :). Which pic of Kerry would you use?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 03/13/2004 10:37 Comments || Top||

#9  This item should be relabelled "Kerry would be choice of Terrorists and Trolls."
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/13/2004 10:43 Comments || Top||

#10  So, NMM, which candidate do you think the nutbag jihad freaks will be rooting for? Bush, or Kerry?
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/13/2004 11:17 Comments || Top||

#11  #8. Maybe a caricature showing both of Kerry's flip-flop faces would be neat. Just kidding. If the vendor gets back to Dar that might be a detail that he can discuss with them. Any suggestions?
Posted by: GK || 03/13/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#12  How about Kerry marching under the North Vietmanese flag? (Is there such a pic?)
Posted by: CrazyFool || 03/13/2004 11:51 Comments || Top||

#13  How about Kerry with Hillary in Casablanca:

"We'll always have Paris."
Posted by: True German Ally || 03/13/2004 11:54 Comments || Top||

#14  you caught that, huh, TGA? Thanks for your visual - now I'm not hungry ;-)
Posted by: Frank G || 03/13/2004 12:00 Comments || Top||

#15  TGA

Don't perpetrate sacrilege on my favourite movie! The one who for the only time in my life moved me to the verge of tears while listening the Marseillaise. Nothing like an American movie to grasp the meaning of Marseillaise. :-)
Posted by: JFM || 03/13/2004 13:54 Comments || Top||

#16  I can see Terry McCauliffe now...wearily walking the hills of Waziristan passing out free smokes, Mad Dog 20/20, and Chicago absentee ballots...
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/13/2004 21:16 Comments || Top||

#17  Waziristan in November - six feet of snow, wind chill about -40, suspicious of ANY foreigner... Couldn't happen to a more deserving person, but only if he has Teresa "Ketchup" Heinz with him to "keep him warm".
Posted by: Old Patriot || 03/14/2004 1:06 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Broken Arrow In Bangor, Broken Brains In Vancouver.....
...When last we left our heroes, the USN was doing damage control after a "Broken Arrow" - an accident/incident involving a nuclear weapon - at the Trident FBM base in Bangor, Washington. Having been blown thoroughly out of proportion by a renegade blogger and the Usual Crew Of Idiots at the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, a crew of multinational anti-nuke loons are now about to make things worse...
Missile incident rattles Canada
"Nuclear fallout knows no border," lawmaker says
By MIKE BARBER SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER
It might not have been a "broken arrow" nuclear missile accident, but a mishap that damaged a Bangor Trident submarine ballistic missile and was kept under wraps by the Navy until this week threatens broken trust on an international scale.
Unlike, of course, some of the vicious insults that some members of the Canadian media and political oligarchy have thrown at us.
Libby Davies, a member of Canada's national parliament from Vancouver East, yesterday said she intends to seek the same kind of answers for Canadians that her U.S. congressional counterparts are seeking for Americans. "If something happens in Bangor, we're the ones upwind. Nuclear fallout knows no border," Davies said.
"...The fact that a fallout causing event couldn't have happened is irreleveant - irrelevant, do you hear????"
"The whole issue of transparency in government is fundamental to our democratic system. I think when something is covered up it is pretty outrageous."
...beggin? yer pardon lady, but if a bunch of four-stars and the White House know about it, it doens't even come close to the definition of 'covered up'...
U.S. Reps. Norm Dicks and Jay Inslee have demanded answers,
not that they're likely to get them
and Thursday are slated to receive a special briefing from Rear Adm. Charles Young, head of the "nuclear Navy's" Strategic Systems Program. The SSP oversees Bangor's Strategic Weapons Facility, Pacific, where the accident allegedly occurred. The Nov. 7 incident was first brought to public light last weekend on a Web site, Jaghunter.com, by former Navy Lt. Cmdr. Walt Fitzpatrick. He has had a long-running feud with the Navy to clear his name following a questionable court martial.
Well, he's obviously an impartial observer. No ax to grind there...
Military and civilian sources confirmed many of Fitzpatrick's allegations. The incident occurred when a missile being extracted from the USS Georgia's No. 16 tube smacked into an access ladder left in the tube, punching a 9-inch hole in the missile's nose cone. Dicks
oddly appropriate
is the No. 2 ranking Democrat on the powerful House Appropriations subcommittee on defense. Submarine Base Bangor lies in Inslee's district. Dicks and Inslee said they are "troubled" by the lack of information about the accident, serious enough to result in firings a month later of the entire leadership of the strategic weapons facility, announced in December.
USN: "You're right, Congressman - these things are an unacceptabel risk. We'll close the base."
CONGRESSMEN: "Are you nuts???"

"Assuming these reports are accurate, the Navy must provide better notification to the Kitsap County community, including local emergency personnel," Inslee said.
...and I guarantee that if somethging had happened that required their notification, THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN. The only thing that got broke that day was a portion of a carbon-fiber composite nosecone - NOT a nuclear weapon.
"The safety of residents and employees is of the utmost importance when moving nuclear weapons. Congressman Dicks and I intend to discuss these allegations with the Navy in the upcoming days, and work to ensure that a comprehensive safety system exists to prevent any incident, such as those alleged in media reports, ... from occurring."
...and if you were paying attention, you'd have known that such a system has existed since long before you made your first anti-Republican rant...
Navy officials cite a Defense Department "neither confirm nor deny" directive that handcuffs its spokesmen from discussing nuclear weapons accidents. The Navy denies an accident occurred there last November, but splits hairs over what is an "accident" and what is an "incident." The congressmen want to cut through doublespeak. "We want to know everything," George Behan, Dicks' spokesman, said yesterday. "The Navy has been very much cooperative so far and labors under some constraints because of a Defense Department rather than a Navy policy." Behan said a letter from Davies would be included in Thursday?s meeting to punctuate the importance of disclosure. The Navy points to its zero-tolerance policy resulting in the career-ending firings as evidence of how seriously it takes its responsibilities. But while nuclear experts say the possibility of nuclear detonation is highly unlikely, questions left hanging by the Defense Department's silence create concern on both sides of the border about even the smallest potential for plutonium releases or rocket fuel explosions.
The mid-80s accident where a thoroughly inexcusable error on the part of a maintenance crew wiped out a Titan II - and threw its warhead over a mile from the silo - unfortunately has left the impression in a lot of minds that this is what happens when you goof. It ain't. That's why they have the solid fuel motors - lighter and MUCH SAFER...
Davies said questions raised by the Navy's silence can galvanize peace activists on both sides of the border. In 1998, she visited Bangor, leading a "citizens weapons inspection team" to inspect U.S. weapons of mass destruction.
DINGDINGDING...we have an agenda!
"I was the only elected person.
..and the possible reasons for that never seem to have occurred to you?...
We really just wanted to make a point and the point was that all weapons of mass destruction have to be dealt with, not just the ones that were supposed to have been in Iraq," she said. "There is a strong connection between U.S. and Canadian peace activists."
..you mean both countries have blithering idiots who misuse their elected positions for soapboxes and ignore technical and scientific realities just to prove a point? Wow! I never would have guessed...
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 03/13/2004 11:29:59 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Of course, if they want to dismantle Bangor's facilities, we'd love to have 'em here in San Diego. We love our military here - Navy and Marines, and they wouldn't have to patiently explain technical things over and over again to Seattle UnIntelligencer reporters
Posted by: Frank G || 03/13/2004 11:36 Comments || Top||

#2  The Seattle Post-Intelligencer: the newspaper with all the intelligence of a fencepost!
Posted by: Mike || 03/13/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Close the Base. The Georgia needs to come home to St. Marys.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/13/2004 12:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Someone might also want to point out that the prevaling winds in the Bangor area are from northwest to southeast, meaning that if there HAD been a release of any radioactivity (the likelihood of that approaches negative numbers, but that's another story), any particles would have been blown toward Tacoma, not Vancouver. Of course, trying to discuss this logically with a card-carrying member of the LLL is impossible, since there's no logic to "discuss" to.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 03/13/2004 13:42 Comments || Top||

#5  In the name of "transparency in government",Libby Davies can tell us how a $10million dollar gun registry in Canada can end up costing @$2BILLION.She can explain how cancer patients in Canada are suing to get radiation treatment in a timely manner.She can explain how Chretien's government used Mounties to intimidate and harass opponents,and most of all she can explain the graft,bribes,and corruption that was/is the hallmark of Liberal Party's governance of Canada.After all,"I think when something is covered up it is pretty outrageous."Clean up the cess-pool that is the Liberal Party,then Libby,you can whine about the US.
Posted by: Stephen || 03/13/2004 14:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Libby Davies: "If something happens in Bangor, we're the ones upwind."

Not to rain on Libby's metaphorical parade, but upwind is the best place to be when it comes to fallout. Downwind is where the stuff heads.

Plus that little "fact" (ooh! scare quotes!) that OP mentioned about the prevailing winds.
Posted by: SteveS || 03/13/2004 15:00 Comments || Top||

#7  "If something happens in Bangor, we're the ones upwind. Nuclear fallout knows no border," Davies said.
"...


Hey, protecting your asses is risky business, so sit down and shut up Libby.
Posted by: Hyper || 03/13/2004 18:48 Comments || Top||

#8  RUN FOR YOU LIVES!!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!
...or maybe not.
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/13/2004 21:08 Comments || Top||


Trolls and Spam
President Bush, tell Americans who lied to you about WMD!
G-o-o-o-o-a-a-a-l-l-l!!! Compuserb loses again!
Posted by: CompuSerb || 03/13/2004 00:49 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  While this is pretty bad stuff and certainly trollish behavior, (you know, of course, that trolls live under bridges in the dark dank shadows, eating stones for diner and bleed black blood when injured...I half way have a feeling that leaving something like this here is almost valuable to show just how crazy Compuserb really is.

Well....
Posted by: Traveller || 03/13/2004 1:13 Comments || Top||

#2  My goodness, Cunt-u-serve, your capacity for absorbing justified abuse, righteous invective, and vile though accurate recrimination seems boundless.
Perhaps you learned it at your mama's knee, which was undoubtedly being slammed into your face and groin quite a bit.
It wasn't her fault though. I mean, alcohol problem, occupational stress of servicing syphilitic SS donkeys, the shame of prison life at Spandau. Hey, it could get to anyone.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/13/2004 1:16 Comments || Top||

#3  It's certainly valuable for us to make fun of him and his teeny pecker brain, so I'll leave the post and his name. But I'll keep deleting the links (unless Fred asks me not to) so as not to gratify the lil' pisher. After all, the regulars all saw what this peckerwood was about yesterday.

Wudja think, Fred?
Posted by: Steve White || 03/13/2004 1:17 Comments || Top||

#4  We need a tame nazi here, so we can walk by the cage and poke sticks at him. Can we keep him, Fred? Please? Please?
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/13/2004 1:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Couldn't resist . . .

RANTBURG (AP) -- Rantburg officials vowed to continue efforts to bring under control an infestation of Serbian lop-eared trolls which has disrupted life in the town since Thursday.

"By golly, there's a bunch of 'em," said Village Animal ConTroll Officer Steve White, at an impromptu press conference in the back room of one of Rantburg's classier cocktail lounges. "Soon as one pops up, we get 'im, but as soon as we get 'im, another one pops up. We don't get a minute's rest."

The trolls are being hunted by ground teams armed with Barrett 25mm "payload" rifles, ultrasonic baby-scream projectors, and Zionist death rays, using reconaissance imaging provided by Piper Cherokees from the Rantburg Civil Air Patrol.

Rantburg mayor Fred Pruitt dismissed suggestions that he would call out the National Guard. "The Guard has more important things to do; and besides, troll hunting is fun."

According to Clone Clonondarange, Dean of Biology at the University of Rantburg (home of the Fighting Warbloggers), the Serbian lop-eared troll is a paranoid, rabidly anti-Semitic garden pest originally found in the Balkans. "It's an endangered species," said Dean Clonondarange, "but we're doing our best to make it an extinct one."
Posted by: Mike || 03/13/2004 7:01 Comments || Top||

#6  perhaps this is that faisel fuckwit guy again
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/13/2004 7:02 Comments || Top||

#7  I think Compuserb is a prejudiced (against Jews) twit. Prejudice is for people who cant think for themselves. Bush wasnt lied to unknowingly,he lied himself.Maybe Compuserb you could realise this planet has enough room for all races/religions.
Posted by: Antiwar || 03/13/2004 7:10 Comments || Top||

#8  Even head in the sand types like you Anti.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 03/13/2004 7:19 Comments || Top||

#9  And yet another planet heard from.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 03/13/2004 7:22 Comments || Top||

#10  Damn, Jersey, you beat me to it.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 03/13/2004 7:22 Comments || Top||

#11  And you Jersey(cow)Mike.
Posted by: Antiwar || 03/13/2004 7:28 Comments || Top||

#12  #5. Mike that's perceptive, clever, and too,too funny. I have tears from laughing so hard.
Posted by: GK || 03/13/2004 8:12 Comments || Top||

#13  HAHAHAHAHAHA! Mike!

No, I think CompuSerb is one of those tinfoil-beanie Hang-Mordecai-not-Haman ratbrains. AIE! I just said that the average rat was as dumb as CompuSerb and my lips fell off!
Posted by: Korora || 03/13/2004 8:21 Comments || Top||

#14  Prejudice is for people who cant think for themselves.

Unlike various forms of ideology, political correctness, and the all-we-need-to-do-is-love-each-other world view.

The sad reality is thinking is not most people's speciality, although RB is often a refreshing exception.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/13/2004 8:24 Comments || Top||

#15  Tell me, CompuSerb. In what
Reality-proof bubble do you live? It's quite
Obvious that you
Like your fantasy world where the Jews rule all
Life but it isn't real; the Jews are mostly better people than that!
Posted by: Korora || 03/13/2004 8:33 Comments || Top||

#16  Phil you are right that most do not think for themselves. RB not always an exception quite a few other prejudiced (against Palestinians and other Arabs for instance)people here. Compuserb is a piece of work though agree with you on that.
Posted by: Antiwar || 03/13/2004 9:05 Comments || Top||

#17  prejudiced? - against those who run their societies as Death Cults? Those who've done their best to kill as many Americans and westerners as possible? F 'em! I say they should get their death wish, and faster, please. If my position is disagreeable to a pacifist POS like you, I take that as a compliment
Posted by: Frank G || 03/13/2004 9:16 Comments || Top||

#18  Antiwar:

I think most Rantburgers don't view Arabs as categorically as you think. Arabs are God's children, too, and they have the same inalianable rights ("among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuait of Happiness") as everyone else. It is not "prejudice" to wnat to see their oppressors--the Arafat and Ba'ath'st thugocracies, the Wahabbi death cult, the House of Sa'ud--exetrminated. Indeed, I would submit that the true display of prejudice is the "multicultural" notion that Arabs or Moslems should be condemned to tyrrany because, well, Arabs and Moslems are like that and it's all our fault anyway.
Posted by: Mike || 03/13/2004 9:34 Comments || Top||

#19  Don't confuse unreasoned prejudice with informed opinions based on empirical evidence.
Posted by: Fred || 03/13/2004 9:35 Comments || Top||

#20  Mike you are right on the abysmal human rights record of a lot of Arab nations Saudi Arabia for instance and am glad to hear a lot of people here are not as prejudiced as they appear to be sometimes. I dont approve of tyranny either.
Posted by: Antiwar || 03/13/2004 9:53 Comments || Top||

#21  Fred, AOS, why don't you change the link to the IDF home page? Or perhaps Allah needs traffic.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/13/2004 9:55 Comments || Top||

#22  I'm tired of trolls. LOOK AT ME, PAY ATTENTION TO ME. They are like people who fart at parties in order to get attention....they are really, really, weird and stunted people.

Yes..troll - you can get people's attention by farting, but it's just says so many sad, sad, things about you.
Posted by: B || 03/13/2004 10:36 Comments || Top||

#23  Am I the only person that notices that RB has a tendency to convert its trolls.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/13/2004 10:55 Comments || Top||

#24  Thanks to the skinhead, this has turned into and interesting thread. But, if you want to quit now, it's OK CSerb.
Posted by: GK || 03/13/2004 11:08 Comments || Top||

#25  "Soon as one pops up, we get 'im, but as soon as we get 'im, another one pops up. We don't get a minute's rest."

Just spotted a new troll thread, but The Army of Steve killed it before I could post a comment. Good shooting, Stevie boy!
Posted by: Mike || 03/13/2004 11:11 Comments || Top||

#26  and again and again and....

Serb-boy doen't get it....

bet he was the kind of kid that kept sticking his finger in the electric socket, expecting a different result every time
Posted by: Frank G || 03/13/2004 11:43 Comments || Top||

#27  Nice of him to help me refine the poop list routine. He had to change his name to get that last one in.
Posted by: Fred || 03/13/2004 12:11 Comments || Top||

#28  Op Sec Fred.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/13/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#29  I'm trying to program it to recognize odors now.
Posted by: Fred || 03/13/2004 12:43 Comments || Top||

#30  "winds of black hate"?
Posted by: Frank G || 03/13/2004 12:52 Comments || Top||

#31  Fred, once you've finished, patent your TRS (Troll-Recognition Software). I KNOW there's a demand! Of course, if you're REALLY, REALLY serious about being nasty, all troll-related software should send the poster to DU and "ALLAH is in the House" - simultaneously, in different windows. Really get the trolls spinning like tops.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 03/13/2004 12:53 Comments || Top||

#32  ...the University of Rantburg...

Cool! Can I be on the physics faculty?
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 03/13/2004 14:02 Comments || Top||

#33  Don't confuse unreasoned prejudice with informed opinions based on empirical evidence.

Now you've just confused him/her even more!
Posted by: Rafael || 03/13/2004 15:45 Comments || Top||

#34  I think that we have had our fill of trolls and beating up on trolls and get back to the perfuit of happineff. Woops, olde english moment...
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/13/2004 23:00 Comments || Top||



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