John F*** Kerry does not need sanctions to stop North Korea. He can always use that charming personality of his and, of course, his ability to nuance everything. Idiot!
North Korea warned Monday any move by the United Nations to impose sanctions on the communist state to make up for stalled diplomacy would spark a "merciless war". The warning came after US officials last month hinted at bringing North Korea to the UN Security Council for possible sanctions if it continued to cold-shoulder talks on the country's nuclear weapons drive. "Sanctions mean a war and war does not know any mercy," said Pyongyang's official Korean Central News Agency monitored here.
Keep that in mind, if it ever comes, NorKs. It goes both ways.
"If the US applies more sanctions to the DPRK (North Korea) by putting the UN in motion, the DPRK will promptly and resolutely react to it with self-defensive war deterrent force." The agency said the United States would "be wholly responsible for all ensuing fatal consequences" if war breaks out.
Since NKor, as we all know, is incapable of controlling its impulses...
Two years into the nuclear standoff, hectic diplomacy has yielded little. North Korea failed to show at a fourth round of six-party talks scheduled to open in September in Beijing, saying it was staying away because of the "hostile" US policy towards Pyongyang and reports of secret nuclear experiments in South Korea. The United States, the two Koreas, Russia, China and Japan met for three inconclusive rounds of talks in Beijing prior to the North Korean boycott. Some analysts have said Pyongyang may be waiting out the US presidential elections on November 2. But North Korea says it does not care who is US president, and will resume talks only when the United States drops its "hostile" attitude. Analysts and some officials have questioned whether the time may not be ripe to attempt to nudge the process ahead by putting Pyongyang under pressure from the threat of UN sanctions.
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Kimmy is anxiously awaiting 11/3 to see if maybe President Kerry will offer him nuke fuel also.
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Go for it, Kimmy. (Though I doubt the UN weasels have enough spine to agree to sanctions.)
It must suck to be YOU, Kimmy.
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I see Kimmie's lips moving, but all I hear is "blah blah blah." He will have nothing to say that is worth hearing until some Marine is about to chuck a grenade down his spider hole.
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Kimmie is trying to gin up some scare tactics hoping it will work against Bush. What he doesn't understand is that Kerry can't be trusted to deal with areas like North Korea so Kim is actually going to help Bush if he keeps it up.
Oh, and they forgot sea of fire, what's up with thos guys.
#11
opens this weekend - hot puppet sex and skewering of hollywood dipshits! What more could ask for? Hint - know what the movie is and isn't before ya plunk your $ down - a lot of people won't find it funny. Definitely geared toward sniggering teens (and their dads) ;-)
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"Hostile attitue", huh?
I guess we're supposed to be happy at the prospect of this psychotic little shit-for-brains with nukes, huh? Not likely.
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Check out the King Jong Il clip at www.teamamericamovie.com in Behind The Scenes clips. It's outrageous. Full credit to Parker and Stone for sending up this big haired freak.
Activity around North Korea's missile launch sites is tailing off, calming fears of a ballistic missile test, a Japanese newspaper reported on Monday, citing government sources. The Yomiuri Shimbun said the Defense Ministry had called back a ship equipped with Aegis radar tracking equipment that was sent when satellite monitoring picked up increased activity around missile and other military bases in North Korea last month. "The series of moves appear to have been North Korean military training," the Yomiuri quoted a government source as saying. The paper quoted him as adding that about 70 percent of the activity had ceased.
Japan has decided to move forward to the development stage on a next-generation missile defense system it has been working on with the United States, Kyodo news agency said on Monday. The decision, which Kyodo said was made under pressure from Washington, is bound to face domestic opposition because it will involve a review of Japan's ban on weapons exports. The government will make its final decision within the current financial year, which ends in March 2005, on whether to develop components for the system, Kyodo said. Japan recently decided to spend about 1 trillion yen ($9.1 billion) on an existing U.S.-made missile defense system, Kyodo said. Tokyo has also spent 15.6 billion yen on the joint research program for the next-generation system, which began in 1999, Kyodo said.
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I'll be more worried about TAIWAN, where mainland China is worried Taiwan's leadership will begin de facto work for SOVEREIGN STATEHOOD. As a matter of strategic military operations, the capture of TAIWAN by any Chicom milfors will allow China to AIRBORNE "LEAPFROG" straight into the Phillippines and WESTPAC-CENTPAC, and cut off potential US Air and Sea links to JAPAN AND SOUTH KOREA, and East Asia in general - in addition, a nuclearized and militarily powerful Japan, and ditto a powerful South Korea, especially if capable of militarily damaging interior Chinese territory or targets, only makes conventional-only Taiwan more credible as the "Path of Least Resistance" for China's People's Liberation Army. Lastly, the socio-cultural similarities and sympathies between the mainland Chinese and Taiwan Chinese cannot be denied, whereas there is historical and competitive animosity still to consider between the societies of mainland China and Japan proper! Of all America's potential enemies during the Gloabl War on Terror, only mainland China possesses the level of national ethos, level of nuclear arms, and available quantitative manpower to exercise both short-term and protractive, but differentiated, militarized warfighting options against America, be it mechanized blitzkrieg to static "people's war" or armed insurgency!
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I'm not sure what I did to have all that pretty, wasted, yellow space above. Sorry. (Yes, that is a comma between the two adjectives. Stop snickering.)
Spain will pull its 500 troops out of Afghanistan after the Afghan elections, Defense Minister Jose Bono told local media on Monday. Bono said that only a Spanish medical group would stay there to carry out humanitarian tasks. Asked whether NATO should keep its troops in Afghanistan after the country's elections on Oct. 9, the minister said Spain opposed extending the deployment in order to show respect for Afghanistan's sovereignty. Spain has been insisting that all foreign troops should be drawn from Afghanistan after the Afghan elections. In April, Spain withdrew 1,300 troops from Iraq on the orders of newly-elected Prime Minister Jose Rodriguez Zapatero.
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Bullsh!t. Has the Afghan govt. asked you to leave?
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No, but their Muslim masters have.
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It won't help you, Spain, in the soon-to-come final reckoning with your Islamic masters, but don't let that stop you. Keep your head firmly buried in the sand.
I understand it hurts less when you don't see it coming.
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Presumably, the new leaders of Al-Andalus believe that "respect for Afghanistanâs sovereignty" would have implied leaving the Taliban in charge.
Time to amend Dr Johnson's epithegm: " 'Respect for sovereignty' -- another refuge of a scoundrel."
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el buck-buck braaawko?
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Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Of course if the American people in their wisdom elect Kerry in November we'll be leaving in January.
#14
Michael pretty good and funny and seriously it might have worked. When confronted with a determined defense the Spanish, in N. America at least, changed directions, got lost and wondered to the nearest local shore line, usually taking about 3 years.
How insensitive. Can't we all just get along? Those Spanish must believe that terror is just a damn plain nuisance. Call a meeting. Let's get to the bottom of this thing.
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Useful words and phrases in Spanish. Just click on any word to see what I mean.
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I guess I'll have to look up all those guys who said the Spanish were pulling out of Iraq so they could better maintain manpower levels in Afghanistan. Just to see what they think, or pretend to think, about it.
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Funny, as an avid shortwave listener since 1976, I recently sent a letter to Radio Exterior de Espana. The reply I received was unbelievable, nothing but cries of how poor the external radio services of Spain were and how they could barely afford to respond to listeners. It wasn't _that_ long ago that REE would reply with exotic cloth pennants of their station, colorful stickers, brochures and even record albums.
Rueben-esque Francais? Radio France International doesn't even respond anymore and keeps your dollar that you sent to help defray postage. But sometimes you are lucky and they respond with a form letter to advise that they no longer respond! roflmao
All this crap from 'old europe' about being anti-bush is just a smoke-screen to try and hide that they are freaking broke and could hardly help if they wanted. They can only help when they get some bribes to help defray their broke, jealous asses.
At least our real brothers, the UK and Australia, do all they can within their means. But hey, what can you say. Ephraim and Manasseh are brothers, when we fight amongst ourselves, we fight good. When we ally against our common enemies, step back bizznitch.
In a few decades, radical Islam will ultimately dominate the European Union, and perhaps most of the world. It has already become a dominant force in the UN, which is reflected in the results of voting against Israel's anti-terrorist barrier. In this respect, we should note that the widespread usage of the word "wall" is itself a small victory of anti-Israeli propaganda, since 93 percent of the barrier consists of a fence that can be quickly removed once the Palestinian authorities manage to restrain the terrorists' activity.
The first reason extreme Islam will prevail is the intellectual advantage that al-Qaeda leaders have over western European politicians. The latter want to believe that there is no clash of civilizations; that terrorism is just a product of misery and lack of education; that the solution lies in a multicultural, tolerant society; and that the stubbornness of the Americans and Israelis is to blame for all the problems.
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Very good story, question is if the transformation to a eurabian Europe will not become violent as our non productive European economies will put Europe in a pre- 1940 kind of situation....
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While the author identifies the interesting trends of aggressive Islam, high Islamic birthrate, and a French led alliance against Israel and the US, the article projects present trends âa few decadesâ. I doubt those trends will continue.
Here are my own predictions:
Aggressive Islam is provoking a backlash throughout the world. Muslims may be highly motivated but their aggression will provoke a strong reaction by non-Muslims.
The high Islamic birthrate has already greatly slowed in Turkey. As other Islamic nations modernize, their birthrates will likely lower. High birthrate in Islamic nations such as Iran and Saudi Arabia are destabilizing those nations, as their economies canât generate jobs for the swelling young population.
France wonât be an effective leader against the US. France itself is highly intolerant of its Muslim population. As the Muslim population of France grows that intolerance will dictate more French policy.
France is losing control of the EU. The larger EU will be less interested in constraining the US.
Finally, in a few decades globalization will be largely complete. The world populace will be connected through the Internet, through shared music, movies, and TV, and through an integrated economy.
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A5032 - Don't you have a shoe or two left to drop here? Are you suggesting a chorus of Kumbayah?
Major Flaw, IMHO: That everything will remain static, such as no further major jihadi attacks. And, IMHO, Beslan has already made a mockery of such rosy-cheeked Pollyanna optimism.
When (choose at least one) NY, Long Beach, Houston, Baltimore, London, Rome, Marseille, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Oslo, Stockholm, Hamburg, St Petersburg, etc. become Glow in the Dark attractions, will your scenario still make sense?
No. Sorry. I'd love for you to be right, but I don't buy it for even a minute.
Why al-Qaeda Will Dominate the European Union...
Because the largest 3 governments who are members of the EU who understand reality UK, Italy, Poland...
are disregarded by the euro-versions of the ABC knucklehead Halperin, and they have thier minions spread the word that appeasment pacifism pays...
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Militant Islam screwed the pooch at Belsan. That has totally isolated the Russians from European appeasement. Without Russia, ninety percent of Europe is a dead man walking.
There's also a growing backlash against the EU in some 20 countries, including most of Scandinavia, Italy, the Netherlands, and a few others. Most are willing to accept a common currency and free trade, but France's heavy hand at everything else has made most EU members cautious. A few are even on the verge of telling France - and the EU bureaucracy in Brussels - where to go, and not being polite about it.
I'm a stamp collector, and trade stamps with Europeans in a dozen countries. Most of the people I trade stamps with would rather switch to bilateral relationships with the United States than to continue with the EU. Most quote the arrogance of France and Germany as the cause. That includes one ex-patriate Frenchman living in Scandinavia, and a couple of Germans - one Hessian and one Bavarian.
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"When they pry my cold dead hands from my gun." What was I thinking, they took the firearms away from the people in England. The anti-gunners had their way. Naive dumbasses. Disarming the people is bad,bad, bad! 2nd Amendment insures the First Amendment although the First Amendment is greatly abused by MSM enemy.
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.com, Iâm much less optimistic than my comment may have indicated.
I was responding to the predictions of the article. My prediction in the case of a US âBeslanâ or âGlow in the Dark attractionsâ is included in âtheir aggression will provoke a strong reaction by non-Muslimsâ.
I believe it is likely that the US will be unable to transform the ME before terrorists destroy a major US city. The likely US response is escalation to total war against much of the Islamic world. (I support the Bush strategy and believe we have to try, but Iâm pessimistic about our chance of avoiding total war.)
Jackal: âSo, you are saying their birthrates will continue to climb, right?â
(I get the humor but Iâll answer seriously anyway.)
There will be mixed demographics. Some Islamic countries will modernize and their birthrate will drop. Some Islamic countries will destabilize, as their economies canât support their growing populations.
The immigrant populations will also exhibit mixed demographics. The US Muslim populous will likely split into those who integrate and those that become more Islamic. The two groups will have different birthrates. The US Muslim immigrants are significantly better educated than the European Arab immigrants and are significantly better integrated into US society. (Or the Turkish immigrants in Germany.)
If (and that is a big if) the world avoids total war for the next few decades, then I believe world conflicts will diminish as a world culture predominates.
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*Shakes head* I doubt it, A5032: The clash of civilizations is over THE NATURE OF THE WORLD CULTURE. Al Q wants it to be islamist. The EU wants it Franco-philic. The United States IS MAKING IT American Western Secular. It's the "Secular" part that riles up the Islamists, who look upon winning and victory as a God Given mandate and guarantee.
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A5032 - Gotcha - good commentary. I'm of the opinion that they will make at least one US city a denial zone ala dirty bomb / small inefficient nuke via shipping container or just kill some tens of thousands via something like an LNG ship. It appears to be inevitable that they will get the means together eventually. I also believe that they will successfully make at least one major strike of similar magnitude in Europe - wherever they can pull it off. The idiocy of thinking that they care about the politics of various countries is laughable - we're all cattle to them. The "prestige" hit might seem preferable, of course, but anywhere is fine - the terror value will be the same.
I'd guess the odds of making it a decade without this happening to be so small as to make it no odds. Certainly, the coming election will affect the efforts on both sides of the equation rather dramatically. Fighting them here - or on their turf has been one of the largest benefits of having Bush executing the WoT, IMHO.
Call me pessimistic on the long-term scenarios, sadly.
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The idiocy of thinking that they care about the politics of various countries is laughable -- we're all cattle to them.
Agreed .com. I hope you are wrong about the strike. Our borders are porous. Wherever they launched from would have a lot to answer for.
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AB / JQC - As you say, it's currently still porous and that's still true after the dramatic increased efforts by Customs in LB, NY, Houston, SeaTac, and the Canadian and Mexican borders, et al. It's mainly human (and canine) effort and common sense (low-profile profiling, heh) because the "perfect" hardware is still being invented.
I know the AlQ types, at the fodder level, are apparently mostly morons - but common sense tells me we'll lose this game eventually. Somewhere along the way, a "plan" will actually work, just as 9/11 did. Who knows how many aborts occurred between WTC I and WTC II?
Things to consider slowly and with full cognizance of the ramifications:
How will we react? What will we hit if we don't know precisely where they came from or who directed them? The demand to hit back will be overwhelming. And even the dickheads who are trying to re-cripple us by watering down the Patriot Act will join the chorus, the fuckwits. HUGE questions, given the despicable condition of our CIA / FBI capabilities regards foreign terrorists. We will be heavily dependent upon other countries. There's even a fair possibility we will be manipulated, ala Nigerian yellowcake, as well. It will be a bitch situation the likes of which the world's never seen before. The world hasn't seen a true Gulliver / Lilliputian situation, militarily, before with global reach and such devastating (even if precise) weaponry. We may be forced to wipe out several locations to be sure we got the nest - that could mean a lot of neutrals (not innocents - they've had years to disassociate themselves from the jihadis) go out with the actual bad guys. I'm steeling myself for that eventuality, as well as our getting hit. There are 10 or 20 more aspects to this situation, as well. The quandry is a major reason why I've been realitvely quiet on RB. "Fry 'em up" is the easy part. Who. Where. That's some hardcore shit - and I don't have answers I'm happy with, as yet.
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Ugly scenario, indeed, .com. But I am comforted that if we here are thinking about it, others in our culture must be, too. And the strength of the Anglo-American or American Western Secular culture is bringing together diverse viewpoints/competencies/approaches to bear on a problem with the aim of solving it, by God. Not just understanding it, or teasing out the root causes, but fixing it so that it won't be a problem any more.
Even in my darkest nights, I have faith that we will fix this thing. I just hope most of them will be around to enjoy the result -- and they won't be so stupid that we have to melt the sand.
I was actually a lot more worried about the outcome before I found Rantburg. Y'all have taught me so much about the possibilities: tools, approaches, the caliber of the men and women working to fix this for all of us. (Even a whole new vocabulary!)
Sorry, I'm getting all sentimental. But its still true, for all of that.
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Thanks, tw - I'm sorta sentimental too - at least in the respect that I would prefer that there be zero collaterals. Knowing it is impossible and, in fact, might entail many not even indirectly involved, background population, has given me long pause.
RB is an amazing place. Home. Lotsa smart and experienced people - like you - who help knock off the rough corners of our misunderstandings. I read it all, when I can. Thanx, again, for the feedback. :^)
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Don't assume an apocalyptic end with hundreds of millions dead and a globalized homgenized world culture are two alternate end-games. I tend to think both will occur. I also think some destabilizing event will trigger the end-game - a human or crop disease or my favourite an abrupt climactic event like 'the year without a summer' which caused widespread famine and mass migrations from Europe.
The wife of presidential candidate John Kerry told a receptive audience in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas that Kerry would seek out all other options before going to war. "John will never send a boy or girl in a uniform anywhere in the world because of our need and greed for oil," Teresa Heinz Kerry told about 1,200 supporters at the McAllen Civic Center. She said her husband, as president, would be able to approach the families of slain soldiers and say, "'I did everything I could to prevent this, I'm sorry.' "
She spoke for about an hour and was interrupted frequently by applause and cheering, The (McAllen) Monitor reported in its Monday editions. Earlier, Heinz Kerry attended a $1,000-a-head private fund-raiser at the McAllen home of developer Alonzo Cantu. It was not immediately clear how much the event raised. Speaking at the rally, Heinz Kerry criticized President Bush's working relationships with other nations. "Diplomacy is not about, `I'm telling you.' Diplomacy is about, `what do you think?'" Heinz Kerry said. "If you cannot have respect for the other side, you cannot have diplomacy."
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Oooh. She's a confused weak-minded conspiracy theorist, too. Would that be a first for First Lady?
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Totally clueless cue ball - never made it out of her oral-fixated adolescence / daddy complex fantasies and still peddling the mindless 60's mantras of her long lost youth as timeless memes. Amazing.
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Whew .com. Is that all one sentence? And on a monday morning too.....
Sorry Teresa, I dont have any respect for the terrorists who deliberatly target, rape, and murder, innocent children (or as you call them Teresa 'piggies').
They need to be killed. And killed dead. Some cancers have to be cut out.
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Get this straight, you imbecilic twat: the true blood for oil policy was that of France and Russia, who were signing multi-billion oil deals with a man who was slaughtering thousands of his citizens every month.
To make it crystal clear for you, again, the deal was massive oil contracts for TotalFinaElf, LUKoil etc in exchange for the blood of Saddam's victims.
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Well, I thought I'd ask, again... what's Kerry's and Tah-ray-zah's feelings on drilling for oil in this country? You know, so we don't wind up doing the "blood for oil" thing?
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Phil - No, no - he has a plan. No new drilling. No new refining capacity. None of that nasty icky stuff will be required. Don't worry - he's got a plan. A clean plan. A better plan. Sensitive. Responsive to environmental concerns. Dolphin-safe. Child-safe. GAIA-approved.
Back to the trees. Of course, he'll keep Tarayzah's private jet, but otherwise, it's back to the trees.
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Well there is that "little people" / "Do you know who I am?" thing (he hates labels, except when he's tossing them about) that we have to swallow... Then we'll be good to go, lex.
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Talk about labelling, how do you look around a crowded room full of Americans and grandly pronounce that not a one of their households makes more than 200K bar his, the President's and the moderator's? What a smug, out of touch jerk. Does Kerry actually know and associate with any small business owners? You know the kind, the ones that create most of the new jobs. The ones that don't shuttle between Sun Valley and Nantucket.
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I think I have an analogous perspective on Kerry vs Bush, using my own skills as a computer DBA who works with Relational Databases. Nightly I run a job which extracts YTD sales dollars through the previous days. In doing this I need to access 14 different tables.
In the Kerry system I try to do all the upates at one time in one program using say 2500 seconds of CPU time. It gets the job done in some cases and when it doesn't it susbstitutes new terminology such as the old GOTOâs are replaced with GOING GOING GONE. This produces completely random branches and is equivalent to the effect of ten GOTOâs. Or in the case when there is no answer available the Kerry system will produce random answers based on new commands such as DONâT DO WHILE NOT, DIDNâT DO, CANâT DO, WONâT DO, and MIGHT DO.
In the Bush system rather than running all the updates in one gigantic query, the Bush system uses logical steps taken one at a time independent of each other to produce a more efficient end product getting the job done correctly, so nothing is missed.
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Aw come on. Maybe the poor guys just trying to paraphrase Joni Mitchell from the Song Woodstock.
"we have to get our selves back to the garden.
Or Maybe REM ... "Stand in the place where you were, think about it"
Ok..as my better half says, Jim, you are a smart-ass.
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Tah-ray-zah is secure in knowing that she and the rest of her family can outbid almost anyone at the gas pumps except for the likes of Bill Gates. "Let them eat cake."
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What about 'Blood for Ketchup'?
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Ketchup for oil?
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Kerry has a plan?
I think over on LGF they're calling him the Baldric candidate.
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Oh, good. I was thinking I was the only one flashing on "Blackadder" every time I heard the words " I have a (cunning) plan!"
*"It's so cunning that it could be a Professor of cunning at Oxford!"
*"It's so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a fox!"
*"It's so cunning you could brush your teeth with it!"
Mike
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Great minds do so think alike, don't they, Mike?
It is a rather surprising by product of the War on Terror: For the first time, a consensus seems to be emerging among Islamic authorities worldwide that Muslims in the West should participate in democratic politics. Before taking credit for this, President Bush might note that these authorities tend to favor votes for his opponent. But Sen. John Kerry's pleasure in that must be tempered by the awareness that those authorities favor him only because they are quite sure he will permit the undoing of Bush's work in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The emerging consensus could become a turning point for Islamic theology. It drives a hole in the cardinal concept of "association and exoneration" (al-wala'a wa al-bara'a), which means that Muslims should steer clear of non-Muslims, and associate only with fellow believers. The consensus also challenges the classical Islamic division of the world into two parts: the House of Faith (Dar al-Iman), meaning Muslim countries, and "The House of War" (Dar al-Harb Dar), meaning countries ruled by the "infidel." The emerging view, it seems, would allow for a third category of countries to be recognized as the "House of Truce" (Dar al-Sulh), of which the United States would be one.
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But Sen. John Kerryâs pleasure in that must be tempered by the awareness that those authorities favor him only because they are quite sure he will permit the undoing of Bushâs work in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I don't think his pleasure is tempered at all. I'm sure he's more than happy to whore for their vote in this way.
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Same for the "Islamic vote" - to be burdened by and shackled to a static intellectual quagmire of 1400 yrs of utter indifference to this world, save for spreading Islam by force -- poor confused indoctrinated backward brutal smooth-brained fuckwits. Sucks to be you. Thanks to Allan that truth is of no consequence in Islam - their "theologians" can decide to do whatever serves their end and justify it with any prose that is palatable to the MSM. Somebody will print it, pretend it isn't disingenuous bullshit, and gush over / commiserate with it - as the case may require.
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Almost 60% would vote for Kerry. That means that almost 40% would vote for Bush. Just off the top of my head, isn't that slightly higher than the Hispanic vote for Bush? I gather Al Gore got 62% to Bush's 35% of the Hispanic vote.
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"...the Koran, which contains all possible and imaginable knowledge of the past, the present and the future..." Flashback to Johnny Carson as Karnak. Ed: "Everything that was ever worth knowning is in that book!" Karnak: "You are wrong, fatwa breath!"
Seriously, a strong Muslim support for Kerry, if well publicized, will probably be offset by a non-Muslim backlash vote. I can picture the campaign button: a WTC image with the words "Kerry, Atta boy!"
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I recommend publicization to draw out the backlash vote -- then disenfranchisement wherever possible while Dems are busy with the so-called "disenfranchised black vote" -- let's make it true, but not in the way they were thinking >:D
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Does Kerry & his brownshirts believe 9-11 was a mere "nuisance".
The relatives of 9-11's murdered and the scores of living burn & other victims of Islamic terrorisim should find Kerry's term very interesting on Election Day.
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Why feds believe terrorists are probing ferry system LOOKING FOR SOME GOOD LOCATIONS FOR SOME "BIN LADEN DAY CARE CENTERS" MAYBE? AFTER ALL, THIS IS THE HOME STATE FOR PATTY MURRAY.
Groups of men, including one tied to a federal terrorism investigation, have videotaped Washington ferry operations, prompting federal authorities to conclude the system has been under surveillance as a possible target for an attack. U.S. Attorney John McKay, officials in the U.S. Coast Guard and other members of Seattle's Joint Terrorism Task Force all share in that conclusion. "We may well be the target of preoperational terrorist planning," McKay said.
A confidential FBI assessment of the threat to the state ferries is partly behind an increase in security for large-capacity ferries nationwide, McKay and others say. The state ferry system is the nation's largest, carrying 26 million passengers last year. It began implementing new security requirements — including tripling the number of cars screened for explosives — this weekend. For its assessment, the FBI gathered 157 incidents on or near ferries that law-enforcement officers, ferry workers and passengers have reported as suspicious since Sept. 11, 2001. The Seattle Times obtained a document detailing those incidents. The agency ranked the incidents according to the perceived threat, with most deemed a low or moderate risk. Many involved reports of passengers who appeared to be Middle Eastern and were simply using a camera or cellphone. Other reports gave such little detail that they were difficult to investigate. But the FBI determined 19 incidents were highly likely or extremely likely to involve terrorist surveillance of the ferries, with individuals asking probing questions about ferry operations or taking photos of stairwells, car decks and workers going about their jobs. Three incidents involve one man who is a known subject in an FBI terrorism investigation.
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"with individuals asking probing questions about ferry operations or taking photos of stairwells, car decks and workers going about their jobs."
What I don't get is people say Al Queda meticulously plans things for years ahead of time. So why can't they get a follower with a clean record to get a job with the ferry company. He wouldn't have to ask questions, just show up for work and learn. He's also be able to find weaknesses and perhaps plant bombs himself.
Getting idiots to ask questions seems more like a smokescreen, an attempt at indirection. Then again Atta threatened to suggested he could cut a beurocrats throat if she didn't give him a loan, that was after he asked about photos of the main landmarks in DC. These guys are not all that subtle sometimes.
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Perhaps Patsy should contact Gloria for tips on how to handle foundering ferries.
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RJ - I've often wondered about that myself. It doesn't really seem that they are as calculating as we are supposed to believe.
Considering the problems they had in 1999 getting the explosives across the border, I can't help wondering if, rather than wanting to blow up the ferries (yawn) they are looking for an easier way to get the explosives into the US. They could boat them in from Canada, and hope that the ferries don't check for explosives. I don't know.
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Of course, according to Kerry, having a few thousand people die from an attack on the ferry system would be such a nuisence. He might have to interrupt his manucure in order to blame it on George Bush.
They would not even have to board the Ferry - a large explosive-laden speedboat would be able to get quite close to a running (unarmed) Ferry.
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And then JFKerry can handle the attack like a law enforcement matter and arrest the suicide jihadi's body parts.
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Of course the jihadis aren't going to get jobs. They are the princes of Islam -- like the Saudis, lifting wallets and cameras is all that can be expected of those who plan to sacrifice themselves to get into Paradise on the cheap. (Although I've started to wonder how their separated bits will be able to enjoy the houris when they get up there.)
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That's what they call an offer Iran can't refuse.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis ||
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Actually it's an offer by the EU to bend over and grab their ankles. The EU is offereing to sell their citizens out and still do nothing to stop ongoing enrichemnt. It's all about saving face and being different from the US approach. No substance is required just a good show. Oh well the EU is in current missle range. I hope their citizens enjoy the blackmail that ensues.
The European Union yesterday called for an immediate end to Israel's military operations in Gaza and said a unilateral withdrawal from Palestinian territory could not be a substitute for a two-state political solution. Foreign ministers of the 25-member bloc also mandated EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana to implement plans which he outlined to them on a possible EU approach to the Middle East. "[The EU] condemns the disproportionate nature of Israeli military actions in the Gaza Strip," they said in a statement.
"Yeah! Just because they kill a few of you, that don't mean you should kill a lot of them!"
Meeting in Luxembourg, the ministers acknowledged Israel's right to defend itself against missile attacks but said "these actions have claimed the lives of many innocent civilians, including children, and left many injured". Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon vowed yesterday to put his plan to withdraw from Gaza, opposed by right-wingers, to a parliamentary vote on October 25.
"We're leaving, and you can't make us stay!"
EU ministers stressed that any withdrawal from Gaza could not replace a two-state solution for the Middle East conflict as foreseen in the so-called "road kill map" for peace drafted by the United States, the United Nations, the EU and Russia. The ministers added that the EU would not recognise any changes to the borders as they were before the 1967 Middle East war when Israel invaded the Palestinian territories unless both sides agreed to amend them. Mr Solana gave no details of his Middle East strategy proposals but said he would present them to EU foreign ministers when they next met on November 2, and added that they would not deviate from the road map. "Nothing will take us away from the road map. That is a fundamental matter," he told a news briefing.
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"Nothing will take us away from the road map....."
Except a cliff or wall, and that may not even stop us.
The EUniks make the moral equivalence of bus booms of children and civilians by the Paleos and the retaliation and precision strikes by the IDF. There is nothing to discuss here. If the EUniks kids are not boomed, then everything done by Hamas and friends is OK. Pretty twisted.
The Paleos have a leadership problem. A few of the smart ones have figured it out. There will be NO PROGRESS until the present leadership, including the Arafish are removed from power and kicked out of Paleostine.
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With the E.U. 'superstate' demanding of Israel to end her right to protect the public, are they always willing to state the radical elements with the 'Pal' Arabs will no longer send youths into Israeli districts for the sole purposes of acts of mass murder?
Posted by: Mark Espinola ||
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Just because they kill a few of you, that don't mean you should kill a lot of them!
Here's the thing: sure, paleos kill a relatively few Israelis. That doesn't mean they don't want to kill thousands more. Paleo lack of success should not be misinterpreted as "measured" militancy!
In fact, killing hamas, hezbollah and jihad leadership is a pretty good strategy to keep it that way.
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Bat Yeor suggests that the Euros have a policy to toe the Arab line. This and traditional European anti-Semitism might explain their hatred of that Shi** Little Country.
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The nuisance is terrorism. They ought to be used to it by now, yet they gets all worked up and fights back. They need to learn to celebrate diversity.
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The Europeons plan to back this demand up with offensive operations by French and German rapid deployment forces held in reserve for emergencies such as this and the Spanish forces just withdrawn from the Middle East.
Admittedly, the operations will be offensive only to those expect them to have any effect.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis ||
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I'm with Hank, invite the curvy knife fellas into the bowling alley of civic virtue.
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Yeah, dull-ass curvy knife and all. They better close their eyes though so they don't see what coming. All that screaming can cause the cutting of the head to get messy for those jihad fellers. Wouldn't want that now, would they?
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The EUnuchs know that the only "Palestine" that will be accepted by the Arabs is one that stretches from Syria to Aqaba, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean. The EU still has a problem with Jews being free to live in their own country. The EU needs to remember that Israel probably has more nukes - and ones that WORK - than France, the only non-Russian, non-UK "nuclear community" member of Europe. They also possess the means of delivery, and - with typical Israeli precision - would be much more likely to hit their target than Fwawnce. Israel needs the markets of Europe for its exports. The Arabs have no exports but oil, and most of that is found, extracted, processed, and shipped by non-Arabs, although the Arabs get the cash.
Europe needs to grow a brain, coupled with a pair of eyes that aren't blinded by greed and bribery, and ears not stuffed with Arab banknotes. Unless they start thinking like intelligent human beings, there won't be a Europe to be proud of - just another Arab sewer.
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Unbelievable.
Uh, excuse me, but who invaded whom in 1967?...
That's right, Syria, Jordan and Egypt invaded Israel, then got their asses handed to them and lost a bunch of territory. So tough shit, quit whining about it already.
Senior Vatican officials have decided to put aside their differences with the U.S.-led coalition over the war in Iraq, calling for multinational troop reinforcements to secure the country's fledgling democracy...
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How many divisions does the Pope have?
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10/11/2004 11:20 Comments ||
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Oh, goody. Swiss mercenaries, anyone?
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Wonder if the Holy Inqu er, Holy Office is up to interogationg prisoners.
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Well, actually it's pretty bold talk from a EUropean. Maybe the Vatican realizes what is going to happen if Kerry wins and is pretty worried about it.
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This is a welcome change - now the Vatican is removing one of the "wimp shields" they have been using, they being the Germans, French, and the spineless Spanish.
An exit poll conducted by an American non-profit group found that interim Afghan president Hamid Karzai won Saturday's first-ever presidential election with the outright majority needed to avoid a second round. The survey by the International Republican Institute, which seeks to promote democracy abroad, found Karzai ahead of second place finisher Yunus Qanooni by 43 percentage points. The group would not give specific vote totals for either man, nor did it release supporting data. But it said that Karzai was well over the 50 percent mark necessary to avoid a runoff.
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Well, the warlords gave democracy a go. I look forward to the gracious defeat speeches. Heh. Seriously though: my best wishes to the world's newest born democracy. Here's to the future.
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Yes, NYTReader. And here's how the Paper of Record decides to cover this extraordinary achievement, made possible only because of the coalition's brave and decisive intervention:
Candidate Drops Boycott of Afghan Election
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
The main opposition candidate in Afghanistan's first-ever presidential election backed off a boycott of the vote.
Plan for Inquiry Into Election Eases Dissent
A wire service story. Use of the word "dissent" to describe the opposition to the US-backed winner--y'know, dissent against BusHitler's tyranny, like Sakharov or Walensa.
Iraqi legal practitioners and human rights groups have called on the interim government of Prime Minister Iyad Allawi to back down on the defunct Iraqi Governing Council decision No. 126, which regarded the Iranian organisation Mujahidi Khalq (MK) as a terrorist organisation and demanding the expulsion of MK members from Iraq. A statement issued here at the Babylon Hotel — attended by more than 1,200 legal practitioners and members of human rights groups — demanded that MK be struck off the list of terror groups because there is no proof that its members have any terrorist leanings.
"No, no, certainly not! Other than that incident with the bombs, and that unforunate accident with the shipment of rifles, our clients are pure as the driven snow!"
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Even being a suicide bomber does not automatically cause you to be a terrorist. Suicide bombing is a form of delivering a bomb. What or who you target is what defines you as a terrorist. The Iran suicide bombers who blow themselves up in local stations of the secret police do not meet the PROPEr definition of a terrorist.
The Czech government wants to extend the mandate of its 100-strong contingent of military police in Iraq, an official said Sunday. Defense Minister Karel Khuenl said in a live television debate his government wants the contingent's mandate, which expires Dec. 31, extended by two months. The Czech military police are training Iraqi officers near Basra. The extension of their mandate, however, requires parliamentary approval, which is uncertain. Khuenl also did not rule out training Iraqi officers on Czech territory after the contingent's mandate expires, and he suggested the Czech government could also offer material assistance to the Iraqi military. ``We could have a look at what we have and don't need here and send it over to Iraq,'' he said. ``The message I hear is clear: We have enough people, what we need is training and equipment.'' Speaking from Baghdad, Iraqi Minister of Culture Mufeed al-Jazaeri praised the Czech government's plans but said his country may ask for more aid from it after Iraqi elections scheduled for January. ``There are many fields where the Czech Republic can help, such as restoration of our damaged historic monuments,'' al-Jazaeri said.
Thank you, Czech Republic.
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another member of the "Coerced and Bribed" heard from - thanks, Senator Asshat. These are our allies, not France or Zappy
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Opposition leader and Secretary General of MMA, Maulana Fazlur Rehman has held responsible both the government and law enforcement agencies of failing to arrest the killers of the Ulemas.
I hold the religious parties responsible for motivating the killers...
Addressing to the faithful after leading funeral of Mufti Jamil here on Sunday, chief of his own faction said, "We never wanted to fuel the issue but would not tolerate it one after the other", he warned.
"I mean, hey! I could be next!"
Government has totally failed to maintained law and order in the country and from Sialkot to Karachi, one group is responsible, he added. Government knows about the inners of opposition parties, but it is strange that they are totally ignorant of the killers of ulemas and failed to nab the killers of Hakim Saeed, Mufti Shamzai, he lamented. Maulana Fazl further said that government is only carrying out the orders of US and crushing the innocent people and our mission will go on till the objectives are achieved.
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Until he finds a place of his own, Mufti Jamil can stay with Sheikh Yasin.
An attempt by a coalition of 15 candidates to spoil Afghanistan's first presidential election was crumbling last night as dissenters began to back down on demands that the vote be declared void.
That worked well, didn't it?
President Hamid Karzai appears certain to win the poll despite efforts by opponents to throw it into chaos. After withdrawing in protest at alleged election fraud, their revolt fizzled out and the Washington-backed interim leader prepared for victory. An independent commission was set up to investigate claims by the candidates of widespread fraudulent voting and incompetence.
Since the UN was running things, that wouldn't surprise me in the least...
On Saturday afternoon, the 15 candidates claimed that nitrate ink used to stain voters' fingers to prevent them from voting more than once could be wiped off easily. They also claimed that ballot boxes were being stuffed with Mr Karzai's name. But a cabinet minister said some candidates joined the boycott in order to exert pressure to win positions in the new government. A team of western diplomats, led by the American ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, was yesterday putting pressure on the candidates to reconsider their boycott. Mohammed Mohaqiq, a Shia Hazara leader and warlord, agreed and the ringleaders, including Yunis Qanooni who is Mr Karzai's biggest rival, were reconsidering their demand. Others appeared to have caved in already. The Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe, which sent 40 monitors, said the protest was "unjustified" but stopped short of saying the election met international standards.
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Yo!! Mohammed!! You Smell that air?? It's called freedom...now your fucked!!!
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Spain will pull its 500 troops out of Afghanistan after the Afghan elections, Defense Minister Jose Bono told local media on Monday. Bono said that only a Spanish medical group would stay there to carry out humanitarian tasks. Asked whether NATO should keep its troops in Afghanistan after the country's elections on Oct. 9, the minister said Spain opposed extending the deployment in order to show respect for Afghanistan's sovereignty. Spain has been insisting that all foreign troops should be drawn from Afghanistan after the Afghan elections. In April, Spain withdrew 1,300 troops from Iraq on the orders of newly-elected Prime Minister Jose Rodriguez Zapatero.
An exit poll conducted by an American non-profit group found that interim Afghan president Hamid Karzai won Saturday's first-ever presidential election with the outright majority needed to avoid a second round. The survey by the International Republican Institute, which seeks to promote democracy abroad, found Karzai ahead of second place finisher Yunus Qanooni by 43 percentage points. The group would not give specific vote totals for either man, nor did it release supporting data. But it said that Karzai was well over the 50 percent mark necessary to avoid a runoff.
