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2004-10-11 Home Front: Tech

Navy subs get life extension, new missions

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Posted by Frank G 2004-10-11 15:36|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Cool.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-10-11 3:57:14 PM|| 2004-10-11 3:57:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Very cool, Barbara!

Considering that the Boomer's long suit is quiet stealth instead of speed. I foresee an extended cruise between Taiwan and North Korea in these boats' future.

These subs have become much more lethal in their newest configurations. With many, many Cruise Missiles. Command & Control. Plus the addition of SEALs and Delivery Systems.

Excellent examples of Deterrence and Offensive Capability to add to the table!

Jack.

Posted by Jack Deth 2004-10-11 4:18:24 PM|| 2004-10-11 4:18:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Amazing stuff. However, down the line I hope that they can adapt a Trident for Glomar Explorer-type missions. This includes everything from undersea recovery (including hot nuclear recovery, the Trident class already has an enormous amount of lead for ballast), deep water experimental platform, and *importantly* minerological survey missions. There are literally quadrillions of dollars of untapped undersea resources that need to be mapped as a first step to exploitation. A single submarine doing this would be to undersea research what the Hubble telescope is to astronomy.

Posted by Anonymoose 2004-10-11 4:41:08 PM|| 2004-10-11 4:41:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 It's been in the pipeline for awhile. Link has pictures from the 2003 exercise.

Posted by Anonymous4385 2004-10-11 4:46:23 PM|| [http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/cno/n87/usw/issue_18/future_navy.htm] 2004-10-11 4:46:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I thought the whole 'untold riches on the seafloor' (aka magnesium nodules) was just a cover story for the Glomar Explorer to go snatch up a rooski sub.

http://www.hazegray.org/faq/smn7.htm#G12

I do recall the usual 3rd world suspects at the UN spinning up into a complete tizzy over the idea that the rapacious capitalist bastards were stealing the ocean's weath.

Posted by SteveS 2004-10-11 4:58:55 PM|| 2004-10-11 4:58:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 60 seals locked into a sewer pipe with 120 submariners. Oh to be a fly on the bulkhead. Talk about 'cultures in confict'. The seals are insufferable. Submariners are a bit more humble (a bit). They have a very specific unwritten code of conduct onboard that the seals are bound to violate just in the process of being locked-up, bored seals. The code has evolved over decades of long patrols. It is taught by word of mouth and example. Will the seals ask, listen and observe let alone care for the subtle courtesies of the submariners. Crew peace and morale hang on the answer. If the courtesies are observed all will be peace and harmony, if not, there will be trouble. Also the crew hates all riders on principle. Riders represent nothing but extra work for an overworked crew. Riders are considered oxygen-breathing, CO2-producing, chow-eating, commode-filling space-filling, noise-making mess-deck-sitting no-loads. But these are not ordinary riders. They are seals. They cut a wide swath. The crew is used to dominating riders. They won't be able to get over on the seals....much. Let the games begin. I expect they'll figure a way to get along in the end, but there will be 'incidents'. The Auxiliary Division Chief on the Ohio is a former shipmate of mine. I'll ping him, but he probably won't comment. It's still the silent service.

Posted by Zpaz 2004-10-11 5:02:07 PM|| 2004-10-11 5:02:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Seals are just potential jetsam. :)

Posted by Sen Byrds 52 Chevy 2004-10-11 5:24:13 PM|| 2004-10-11 5:24:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Moose, the NR-1 does just the sort of thing you are talking about. It can go deep, but, alas, not to the really deep water. It has wheels (Goodyear truck tires to be exact) along the keel that allow it to "drive" on the ocean floor. I worked for 2 guys that were on the NR-1, one of them is semi-famous in the submarine force for driving the NR-1 off the continental shelf. (Watch out, that first step is a doozy.) See the book Dark Waters for details on that event and more.

Posted by Zpaz 2004-10-11 6:12:54 PM|| 2004-10-11 6:12:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Sounds like the Arsenal Ship is seeing its day

Posted by Cheaderhead 2004-10-11 6:14:16 PM|| 2004-10-11 6:14:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Excellent. So un-Navy to stop, think, and figure out awesome uses for what they have instead of dreaming up gear they don't have. Bravo! Serious kudos for this break with the past. 150 Cruise missiles launched from under the bad guys' nose without warning of any kind and 60 Seals? Shit - that's a full-scale invasion in one go! Again, way to GO, Navy!

Has Skeery revealed that he was a Super Duper Extra-Special Secret Seal, yet?

Posted by .com 2004-10-11 6:24:51 PM|| 2004-10-11 6:24:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Clearly somone needs to put parking curbs along the edge of the continental shelves to prevent that kind of thing. Perhaps yellow lines to demarcate the lanes so that subs trundling along on their truck tires in the opposite direction don't cause accidents. And broken lines to show that passing is permitted where the shelf widens enough.

Ohmigod, what an image, Zpaz! I nearly fell off my chair!

Posted by trailing wife 2004-10-11 11:06:54 PM|| 2004-10-11 11:06:54 PM|| Front Page Top

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