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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Deep Sinister Plot Exposed
Deep Sinister Plot Exposed
Paging Agent Mulder!
My name is Charles Henry Schoonover and I have the proof that Cleric Abubakar Ba'asyir is being framed by the United States of America. I discovered the proof when I was a college student attending Texas A&M University in College Station, Texas. In the mid 1980's, I transferred from Pan American University in Edinburgh, Texas to Texas A&M University. One of the first things that I did when I moved to College Station, Texas was to volunteer with the Republican Party in Brazos County, Texas.

I am a T-4 paraplegic confined to a wheelchair and, because politicians like to have their photograph taken with a disabled student, I was often able to get into private meetings that I was not supposed to be attending. It was during a private meeting between Vice President George Bush, Sr. and US Senator Phil Gramm that I accidentally picked up their top-secret plan. I thought that it was campaign material. When I got home with the material, I was completely surprised to find out that it was a top secret plan for, among other things, the Gulf War. I read the material in complete disbelief. The next day I went to class and when I came home, all of the material was gone and my life was turned upside down.
I think he landed on his head.
The material absolutely talked about framing Muslim clerics. The charges that have been brought against the cleric were specifically discussed. So was the bombing that the cleric is charged with. There is no question in my mind that the bombing was carried out by Australian agents who were also specifically mentioned in the material. I have spent the last 15 plus years attempting to expose what I discovered but I have also been framed by the same conspirators. For example, soon after they began destroying my life, I was arrested when I tried to ride a bus. I was charged with obstructing a highway.
Larry Smith, who still lives in Bryan, Texas, which adjoins College Station, Texas, can confirm that my life was deliberately destroyed by somebody who wanted to do me harm. He was the only friend of mine who attended my trial for obstructing the highway. Mr. Smith, who owns a bait shop in Bryan, Texas can be located by doing a Google search for "Larry Smith" and "Bait Shop".
Does he have a girl friend named Lucy Ramirez by any chance?
I am willing to testify on behalf of the cleric. I am willing to give your publication all the time necessary to fully explain the information that I was exposed to. I have not been allowed to do so here in the United States. Newspapers will not publish my story, the FBI threatens me with arrest when I approach them to report what I know, and my health is attacked every time that I make an effort to retain an attorney. The same conspirators who are framing the cleric are the same conspirators who have been hounding me.
Perhaps we can take up a collection to buy him some tinfoil?
A sinister, deep-laid plot that involves the cooperation of thousands of people with complete, total security -- broken by a paraplegic who finds the material. Haven't we seen this movie?
Posted by: Charles Henry Schoonover || 11/06/2004 8:15:40 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Has the Arab Press picked up on this yet? Man, thay are going to have a field day with this new conspiracy!
Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 11/07/2004 20:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Call Marvin Zindler Charles Henry.
South Texans will know what I am talking about.
Posted by: leo88 || 11/07/2004 20:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Larry Smith's Bait Shop, eh?
Notify the Black Helicopter Squadron! We ride tonight!!
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/07/2004 20:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Marvin Zindler EYE WITNESS NEWS!
Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 11/07/2004 20:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Bingo Anonymous 4724
But I doubt Marvin will give a shit anyway.
Posted by: leo88 || 11/07/2004 20:34 Comments || Top||

#6  I Googled Charles Henry. He's a real interesting guy.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/07/2004 20:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Message to Charles: the "Smoking Man" is part of the conspiracy... and the base can be found in the Antarctic...
Posted by: MrO || 11/07/2004 20:35 Comments || Top||

#8  Rather will be all over this.

"Danny boy,
the kooks,
the kooks are calling...."
Posted by: Therens Angotch7221 || 11/07/2004 20:36 Comments || Top||

#9  When I lived in Houston, circa 1981-83, "Marvin Zindler Eye-Witness News" used to report on roach infestations at local restaurants. This should be right up his alley.
Posted by: Tom || 11/07/2004 20:36 Comments || Top||

#10  He starts by saying he has proof. He doesn't give a single detail about Operation Secret Plan, before it was stolen, except its about framing muslim clerics.

So now he's willing to testify for Mastermind Ba’asyir, yet he blames his life problems on an unknown govt group, just ask Larry Smith.

What an idiot, I hope figures it out.
Posted by: Angash Angomotch2575 || 11/07/2004 20:37 Comments || Top||

#11  My name is Charles Henry Schoonover and I have the proof that Cleric Abubakar Ba’asyir is being framed by the United States of America.

Wow! This is big news. I can only guess that this guy is mightily disillusioned with America and all of its putative freedoms. Might I politely suggest that Schoonover hurry his crippled ass on over to Indonesia so he can share this vital development with the rest of his JI buddies? I'm confident that he'll be well received. From what I've heard, with it's advanced medical facilities and world-class accessibility provisions, Indonesia is an untrammeled paradise for T-4 paraplegics.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/07/2004 20:38 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Saudi Religious Scholars Support Holy War
Prominent Saudi religious scholars have called on Iraqis to support militants waging holy war against the U.S.-led coalition forces, saying fighting the occupation was a duty and a right. In an open letter to the Iraqi people and posted on the Internet Saturday, 26 Saudi scholars and religious preachers stressed that armed attacks launched by militant Iraqi groups on U.S. troops and their allies in Iraq were "legitimate" resistance. The scholars — some of whom have been criticized in the past for their extremist views — issued a fatwa, or religious edict, prohibiting Iraqis from offering any support for military operations carried out by U.S. forces against militant strongholds. "Fighting the occupiers is a duty for all those who are able. It is a jihad (holy war) to push back the assailants ...," said the letter. "Resistance is a legitimate right. A Muslim must not inflict harm on any resistance man or inform about them. Instead, they should be supported and protected." Among the 26 scholars who signed the letter are influential Sunni Muslim clerics, Sheik Safar al-Hawali, Sheik Nasser al-Omar, Sheik Salman al-Awdah, Sheik Sharif Hatem al-Aouni and Sheik Awad al-Qarni. Al-Hawali — jailed in the 1990s for five years without trial because of his criticism of U.S. involvement in the 1991 Gulf War — is known for his radical views and was once close to al-Qaida terror mastermind Osama bin Laden. Like many Islamic extremists, al-Hawali also opposed the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia. His name appeared this month on a list issued by a group of Arab intellectuals who seek prosecution of prominent clerics for encouraging terrorism. The scholars said their appeal was prompted by "the extraordinary situation through which the Iraqis are passing which calls for unity and exchange of views." The scholars said inter-Iraqi fighting would cause "great damage to the Iraqis and give a free service to the Jews who are infiltrating into Iraq and to the coalition forces which exploit differences to consolidate their domination." The invasion angered many in Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam and home to its two holiest cities. The Saudi government has launched a military campaign against militants that started after al-Qaida-affiliated operatives attacked three residential compounds in Riyadh in May 2003.

#1 Like I said, those are not religious statements. They are poltical. Waging war! I say those Sheiks are in open warfare in this conflict and are therefore legitimate targets.

God this PC kids glove shit with Saudi clerics is galling me. Had we took this fight to them last year those pricks would be singing a different tune.
Posted by: Lucky 2004-11-06 12:49:46 PM

#2 Fred,

Slap the acme "Surprise Meter" on this one.
Posted by: Poison Reverse 2004-11-06 12:55:20 PM ||Top

#3 I say those Sheiks are in open warfare in this conflict and are therefore legitimate targets.

Lucky, you seem to have made a rather quick recovery. All the better if this is the case.

Among the 26 scholars who signed the letter are influential Sunni Muslim clerics, Sheik Safar al-Hawali, Sheik Nasser al-Omar, Sheik Salman al-Awdah, Sheik Sharif Hatem al-Aouni and Sheik Awad al-Qarni.

Add these names to the wetworks roster. When these assholes STFU about holy war, maybe then we stop with the swift onset lead poisoning.
Posted by: Zenster 2004-11-06 1:00:37 PM

#4 Zenster---

We've got them on the list
We've got them on the list
And they'll none of them be missed
They'll none of them be missed!


[/Gilbert and Sullivan channeling]
Posted by: Alaska Paul 2004-11-06 1:06:00 PM

#5 Hey Zen, thx. I'm in the coming around faze. My left hand is at 80% and I can walk with a cane. Driving some too. Not free of the bug yet but I've got a chance. Hey and people say the nicest things about me now :)
Posted by: Lucky 2004-11-06 1:33:36 PM

#6 All good news, Lucky. Keep typing, it's a perfect eye-hand coordination exercise, and a great excuse to drop by Rantburg!
Posted by: Zenster 2004-11-06 1:43:11 PM

#7 Yep!
Posted by: Lucky 2004-11-06 1:46:31 PM

#8  Hey and people say the nicest things about me now :)

LOL! Yes, stay with the typing it next to hitiiting a baseballl for handy eye coordinashun.

:)
Posted by: Shipman 2004-11-06 1:48:44 PM

#9 While we're making up rights, it's the right of every Arab to kill these 26 guys because their tired of listening to their camelshit.
Posted by: Angash Angomotch2575 2004-11-06 2:18:31 PM

#10 While we're making up rights, it's the right of every Arab to kill these 26 guys because their tired of listening to their camelshit.

In our dreams, AA. When Muslims finally begin to realize how much danger their entire faith is being placed in by these psychos and start offing them all by themselves, only then will there be hope for the Arab world. Until that happens, it's target-practice-time for our military.
Posted by: Zenster 2004-11-06 2:26:52 PM

#11 Can we have these guys all get together in Riyadh so we can deal with all the Saudi problems at one time? About 300Kt at 2500 feet, dead center, should do it. Too bad we "gave up" making neutron bombs. Maybe that's something else George should "undo".
Posted by: Old Patriot [http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2004-11-06 2:36:51 PM

#12 I do love the Lord High Executioner! 8^) I'm glad I'm not the ONLY G&S fan on Rantburg.
 Posted by: Old Patriot [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2004-11-06 2:45:24 PM

#13 Too bad we "gave up" making neutron bombs. Maybe that's something else George should "undo".

heh heh SURE we did.....
 Posted by: Frank G 2004-11-06 3:25:36 PM

#14 If any of these "holy men" studied anything other than the Koran they would know that the Christians, Jews, Buddhists, and Hindus all have bigger guns than they do and that they exist only because the other religions allow them to. Moslem armies haven't fared well since the Turks were beaten at the gates of Vienna 12 September 1683. That's a long losing streak for the holy warriors. In fact, if they took a really good look, they would realize that the US is their best friend, because the US is the only thing keeping the IDF from blowing their beturbanned asses all the way to "Paradise."
Posted by: RWV 2004-11-06 4:05:58 PM

#15 As for the neutron bombs...we could spin up a prototype in a heartbeat. And we should test it in Medina.
Posted by: anymouse 2004-11-06 5:18:19 PM

#16 They feel quite safe in their homes and mosques soliciting and funding the murder of men, women, and children. Quite a deal they have going. Brainwash and send out their excess population of men to mass murder the infidels in their office buildings, planes, trains, shops, and sports stadiums. Worse case, the perpetrators get caught and are given 3 hots and a cot for a few years in a western prison. Meanwhile the mullahs and financiers reputations (and bank accounts) as pious defenders of islam grow. It will won't end until the mullahs and their followers truly fear for their lives.
Posted by: ed 2004-11-06 7:26:01 PM

#17 That these guys can freely spew this shit is direct evidence that the nations that they reside in are supporters of terror. What we do with at information is a indication of how serious we are.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom [http://www.slhess.com] 2004-11-06 7:35:48 PM

#18 take it to them and their kin
Posted by: Frank G
2004-11-06 7:38:23 PM
Posted by: Fred || 11/06/2004 9:02:16 PM || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
"Bush's morality does not exist over here, thank goodness"
It used to, of course. That's where we got the roots of it. Britain was a nicer country in those days, many think...
Jowell reveals party thinking on Kerry defeat
Downing Street recalibrates its dealings with Washington
Tessa Jowell, the culture secretary and a strong supporter of Tony Blair, will come close to breaching the cabinet's neutrality on the US election this weekend by voicing Labour's "real disappointment" that John Kerry was defeated. In a sign of the cabinet's dismay at George Bush's success, Ms Jowell will tell GMTV tomorrow: "There's obviously great disappointment among Labour party members that John Kerry didn't make it, and I think there were great hopes at the end that the Republican president would be replaced by a Democratic president." Ms Jowell, who avoids offending the White House by saying she is voicing the views of Labour members, not that she endorses them, qualifies her remarks by saying that opponents of President Bush must accept he has won. "The American people have spoken, George Bush has been returned for a second term, and I think that what is important now is that the very strong alliance between the British prime minister, between Tony Blair and George Bush, is put to its best possible use in getting the Middle East peace process back on course." A cabinet minister would never have dared to raise doubts about Mr Bush in his first term, as the prime minister went out of his way not to offend the notoriously sensitive president. But Ms Jowell's remarks show how Downing Street is recalibrating the way it handles its relations with Washington after the election. Sensitive to the fact that Mr Bush is unpopular in Britain, the prime minister is hoping to reassure Labour members that he is merely dealing with the duly elected US president.
Yup, Tony's calling elections in February. Plus he's paying his dues for sending the Black Watch up to Baghdad
Mr Blair let it be known that he phoned Mr Kerry to congratulate him for fighting an outstanding campaign that had helped to make the election "a true celebration of American democracy".
OTOH, given Cherie's snide comments at Harvard recently, maybe both of them are reverting to Labor form?
The intervention by Ms Jowell came as Labour was being urged to adopt the voter mobilisation technology deployed by both parties to secure the largest turnout in the US since the 1968 presidential elections.
they may be Yankee bastards, but they're effective Yankee bastards, damn them
On Thursday, at a cabinet discussion about the political lessons of the election, it was agreed that Labour had to campaign in the immediate term on its own security issues, including identity cards, crime, litter and job security.
wow - litter! didn't know they had it so bad ...
In a private note to Mr Blair, Peter Hain, the leader of the Commons and a visitor to the Kerry campaign in the summer, urged Labour to examine direct dialling, more sophisticated ways of capturing voter data and using professionals for door-to-door canvassing.
Sure - you know how effective the Kerry campaign was after all
Other parties are also taking stock. Lord Rennard, the Liberal Democrat campaign chief who will attempt to make the war one of the main issues of the election, said he was not put off by Mr Kerry's failure. "In America, if voters said Iraq was the most important issue, they voted four-to-one Democrat, but if they responded terrorism was the biggest issue they voted overwhelmingly for Bush," he said. "People in Britain will simply not accept, as many did in the US, that their country has been made a safer place due to the invasion of Iraq." The Tory party will adopt only some of Mr Bush's techniques. One aide to Michael Howard, the Tory leader, said the social conservatism of the Republicans "is not for us".
well below our class dignity, donchaknow
One shadow cabinet member said: "I do not think there is a read across on Iraq or on Bush's moral conservatism. Middle America believes that the war in Iraq is about the "war on terror". Nobody really believes that here. George Bush's morality and neo-conservatism also does not exist over here, thank goodness." But the Tories believe there is one big lesson from President Bush's victory. A senior strategist said: "Bush spoke in very clear, simple language and was very effective in identifying a negative message - that the US would not be safe with Kerry - and a positive message - what he would do in the future. He then stuck with that, delivering the same speech again and again."
Yup, that'll do it. Doesn't matter what the speech is or whether you deliver on promises. Just keep up the message -- so long as it doesn't have any of that tacky morality in it.
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China-Japan-Koreas
Bush Seeks Resumption of N. Korea Talks
Posted by: Fred || 11/06/2004 9:16:14 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: WoT
New Yorker Article About Maureen Baginski
The November 8 issue of The New Yorker includes a long profile, written by Elsa Walsh, about Maureen Baginski, who has headed the FBI's Office of Intelligence since May 2003. For the previous three years she was the NSA's Chief of Staff and Chief of Signals Intelligence. She served in a variety of NSA positions since about 1977.

The article includes a lot of interesting information about the US Government's war against terrorism from the perspectives of Ms. Baginski and some of her colleagues. The article is not available on-line, but you can buy the magazine for about $5.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 11/06/2004 9:50:27 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Norway won't take Guantanamo inmates
Norwegian authorities reportedly have refused to take in 20 Chinese nationals who have been held by the US at its controversial prisoner-of-war camp at Guantanamo in Cuba. The US claims they don't constitute a terror threat. China has been demanding that the US send the 20 men, taken prisoner as alleged Islamic terrorists, back to China. They are originally from Xinjiang Province. The men, however, face long prison terms or death sentences in China. The US therefore has been asking other countries, including Norway, to take them in. Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reported Friday that both Norway's foreign ministry and its immigration agency have declined the US request. The refusal was based on claims that the US itself should take responsibility for the prisoners it's been holding for three years, according to NRK. The Norwegians also worried that taking in the Chinese nationals could damage its own relations with China, an important trading partner.
Good question. What does one do with inmates who can't be repatriated?
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/06/2004 9:48:17 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


State Department Counterterror Chief Quits
The first domino...
J. Cofer Black, the State Department official in charge of counterterrorism, is leaving government in the next few weeks. Black's departure will end a 30-year government career that was spent mostly in the CIA's operations office. Black had told State Department officials before this week's presidential election that he planned to resign whatever the outcome, spokesman Adam Ereli said Friday. He is the first senior department official to depart as President Bush weighs his personnel lineup across the government as he prepares for a second term.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/06/2004 9:46:32 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


International-UN-NGOs
ElBaradei says he did not seek to harm Bush
The head of the UN nuclear watchdog agency rejected on Thursday accusations that he sought to damage President George W Bush's reelection chances through his agency's report on a huge amount of missing explosives in Iraq.
"No, no! Certainly not!"
Mohamed ElBaradei, director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, said the IAEA was preparing its scheduled six month report when it learned that 377 tons (342 tonnes) of explosives had gone missing from an Iraqi site which the US military had not secured. "On the 10th of October, I received a letter from the Iraqi government saying that there are 350 tons of high explosives that went missing," ElBaradei told an audience during a visit to the Center for International Security and Cooperation at Stanford University. "I realized, of course, that the timing is very unfortunate because I knew exactly the kind of reaction you would get from some of the media."
Posted by: Fred || 11/06/2004 9:54:04 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Terror Networks & Islam
Al Qa'ida warns US of 'unbearable hell'
A group linked to Al Qaeda threatened the US with reprisals after the re-election of President George W. Bush, warning of "unbearable hell," in a Web site statement yesterday. "The coming days will show you that the one you preferred will lead you to an unbearable hell," said the group calling itself the Abu Hafs Al Masri Brigades after the Al Qaeda military chief killed in Afghanistan in October 2001. It was not possible to verify the statement. The same group claimed responsibility for the train bombings in Madrid in March that killed 191 people and injured 1,900. "Although the criminal Bush has spilt blood of Muslims during the last four years and despite the butcheries that he committed and continues to perpetrate in Afghanistan, in Palestine and in Iraq, we see that ... the applause of his people is increasing," it said. "This shows the nature of the American people who approved the war against Islam led by criminal America," it added.
(Same overtones of those far left Dems crying about moving to Canada)
The statement comes after a video message from Osama Bin Laden — broadcast just days ahead of the US election — warned the US of new attacks similar to those of September 11, 2001. The new message said it was of no consequence which of the candidates won the election and appeared to threaten new attacks on the US within the "next days".
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/06/2004 10:21:14 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Militants Worldwide Copy Iraq Beheadings
Posted by: Fred || 11/06/2004 10:20:14 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine
Does Arafat Have AIDS?
Posted by: SHakey || 11/06/2004 10:17:18 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Arafat just died, DEBKA banner reports
Posted by: rkb || 11/06/2004 10:11:56 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Rival Palestinian Factions Meet in Gaza
Rival Palestinian groups, including Islamic militants, gathered in the Gaza Strip on Friday in a show of unity they hoped would prevent the volatile region from spiraling into chaos during Yasser Arafat's absence. With their leader in a coma, many Palestinians were surprisingly ambivalent about the man who led them for nearly four decades, wishing him well but exhausted by his failures. Others feared the Palestinian Authority would collapse into anarchy and violent power struggles following Arafat's death.

Arafat, 75, had steadfastly refused to appoint a successor and none of his possible replacements appear to have the popularity or power base to unify competing — and sometimes warring — Palestinian factions. It seems increasingly likely that, at least for the transition period, the Palestinians will be led by a collective, headed by Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia and former Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, Arafat's deputy in the PLO. Much will depend on how the two men get along because the division of powers is not clearly defined. As prime minister, Qureia would deal with the daily affairs of governing, while Abbas would handle diplomacy, Palestinian officials said. Under Palestinian law, Parliament Speaker Rauhi Fattouh would take Arafat's place as Palestinian Authority president for 60 days until new elections are held. Palestinian officials have expressed concern that Fattouh, who was named speaker only last year, may not be up to the job, even briefly. They said Fatah was looking for ways to get around making Fattouh the top leader, perhaps by ensuring that Abbas and Qureia exercise most power.
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Israel: Gaza only option for burial for the Fish
EFL - JPost Reg Req'd - Next "outrage" and "source of great seething", apparently this fish can't just be 'flushed'
Israel will permit Yasser Arafat to be buried in the Gaza Strip, but keep him out of Jerusalem, a city "where Jewish kings are buried and not Arab terrorists," Justice Minister Yosef (Tommy) Lapid said Friday. The top Muslim cleric in Jerusalem, Ikrema Sabri, said Friday that Arafat asked to be buried in the holy city, marking the first official comment on the ailing Palestinian leader's burial wishes. Palestinian leaders hope to enlist international support for an Arafat burial at the Jerusalem mosque compound, a Palestinian official said on condition of anonymity. Negotiations with Israel would only begin after Arafat's death, the official said. Lapid reiterated Friday that Jerusalem is off-limits. "They (the Palestinians) will choose where to bury him, but he will not be buried in Jerusalem because Jerusalem is the city where Jewish kings are buried and not Arab terrorists," he told Associated Press Television News. Lapid, a longtime journalist, is known for speaking bluntly.
so the Paleos can understand it -read his lips: "no"
Israeli security officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Gaza was the only burial option, and that they oppose allowing Arafat to be interred in the West Bank, including the Jerusalem suburb of Abu Dis.
Oughtta be a septic tank ....somewhere..
Posted by: Frank G || 11/06/2004 12:13:25 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
Georgian Leader Vows More Troops to Iraq
President Mikhail Saakashvili said Friday that Georgia will increase its troop contribution to the U.S.-led mission in Iraq, linking the move to President Bush's re-election. Saakashvili made the announcement in a televised address but did not say how many extra troops would be deployed. Georgia said earlier this week that some 300 troops will join 150 in Iraq now, but it wasn't clear if Saakashvili was referring to these or additional troops. U.S. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher on Thursday said that Georgia was increasing its troop strength in Iraq to 850. However, Georgian defense officials have yet to confirm that. In announcing the increase, Saakashvili mentioned the re-election of President Bush, who he called a friend of Georgia. "In today's world, it is impossible to decide one's own security without friends and allies," said Saakashvili.
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Home Front: Culture Wars
State Department sets up prayer room for Muslims
Quick! somebody tells the secular Liberal left that there is praying going on in the most secular of all buildings: the White House!
In a gesture to Muslims, the State Department on Thursday set up a prayer room for some 150 guests invited to dinner by Secretary of State Colin Powell to end their daylight Ramadan fast. Rugs were placed in the well-furnished room off to the side of the Ben Franklin dining room so the Muslims could observe the call to prayer that traditionally precedes the end of fasting at nightfall. Afterward, the Muslims, men and women sitting side by side, dined on lamb and chicken and were assured by Powell that "we will move aggressively forward to deal with the Middle East peace process and with terrorism."

"In the United States you will find no better friend and partner," Powell said. Offering a brief civics lesson, Powell told them "you saw American democracy in action" on election day. And, he said, "we air our differences openly." Powell also said "America is open to all," but because of security concerns "we have caused some inconvenience for travelers." It was the third consecutive year Powell marked the religious event with an Iftar dinner at the State Department, and each year a prayer room was made available, department protocol officials said.
Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 11/06/2004 9:28:32 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: Horn
Sudan refuses to sign Darfur security deal
Sudan's government refused to sign a security deal with rebels on Friday designed to end violence in the western Darfur region, saying the document drafted by African Union mediators was too one sided. But the mediators said the talks in Nigeria's capital Abuja were set to resume at 1400 GMT and that they hoped for agreement by the weekend. Rebels said they were willing to sign the plan. The slow-moving talks on ending the Darfur conflict, which the United Nations says has triggered the world's worst humanitarian crisis, have been plagued by accusations of ceasefire violations between the two sides. A revolt began in the arid Darfur region in February 2003 after years of low-level fighting between mainly African farmers and Arab nomads over scarce resources.
Posted by: Fred || 11/06/2004 8:58:23 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Sudanese are experts at this; even their supposed Arab supporters became frustrated at all the negotiations, counter-negotiations and so on...
Posted by: Pappy || 11/07/2004 22:28 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm shocked, shocked, I tell ya'.


(NOT)
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/07/2004 22:29 Comments || Top||

#3  At least they are being honest about it.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/07/2004 22:29 Comments || Top||

#4  The Sudanese need to learn they're not the biggest, baddest, most feared fish in the ocean. Time for some BUFF Negotiation. It worked on the North Vietnamese, as long as we used it.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/07/2004 22:30 Comments || Top||


U.N. Envoy: Darfur Sliding Toward Anarchy
Posted by: Fred || 11/06/2004 8:54:47 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sounds like its time for another discussion about it then.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 11/07/2004 20:56 Comments || Top||

#2  But first they have to form the commitee to decide who sits on the blue ribbon panel that determines who will form the bipartisan commission that will conduct the discussions.
The process entails at least another year of 5 star meals.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/07/2004 20:56 Comments || Top||

#3  JM, let's not be hasty. I know a really good Northern Italian place that hasn't been discovered.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/07/2004 20:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Sounds like its time for another discussion about it then.

Followed by a sternly worded letter...
Posted by: Raj || 11/07/2004 20:57 Comments || Top||

#5  Lets not be to quick with that "sternly written letter". Don't ask me why.
Posted by: Lucky || 11/07/2004 20:58 Comments || Top||


Darfur Talks Stalled Over No-Fly Zone
Posted by: Fred || 11/06/2004 8:50:25 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No flies in Darfur? Good luck getting that one passed.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/07/2004 20:52 Comments || Top||

#2  tu3031---good one. LOL!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/07/2004 20:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Okay, it took me 3 hours.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/07/2004 20:53 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Islamabad, Kabul to fight terror
President Pervez Musharraf on Saturday pledged to fight terrorism "offensively" and promised full cooperation with Afghanistan during a visit to the Afghan capital. Musharraf is the first head of state to visit Kabul since Hamid Karzai's landslide victory in the October 9 polls, where he received a red-carpet welcome. Musharraf said the destinies of Afghanistan and Pakistan were interlinked and both had to succeed in the war on terror. "We are together in the fight against terrorism, and we will fight it offensively and cooperate in all manners to succeed," Musharraf told a joint press conference with Karzai at heavily guarded presidential palace in Kabul.

"The success of fighting terrorism in Afghanistan is Pakistan's success, and our success in Pakistan will be Afghanistan's success, so therefore,... we both have to succeed for the sake of Afghanistan and Pakistan," Musharraf said and added: "I was telling my brother, there is no doubt in our minds that we both have to succeed." "There is tremendous cooperation going on and we would like this cooperation to continue and be more extensive," he said. "The intelligence side must cooperate with each other in locating and identifying areas of successful cooperation." Musharraf said Pakistan's efforts to prevent militants crossing the border to disrupt the Afghan polls had helped the elections pass off smoothly and the policy would continue. "We blocked the routes. We used the army, we used the frontier corps to establish special blocks so that there was no interference by the terrorists," he said. "We will block the border and operate against all the groups that are there in Pakistan," he said. "And if the same is done here in Afghanistan, I am sure we will be victorious in denying easy movement to create trouble in each other's countries."
Posted by: Fred || 11/06/2004 8:49:40 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Security increased around mosques
Capital police has increased security around mosques, churches and other religious places to prevent any future suicide attack after a string of violent and fatal bombings and shootings near mosques in the recent past. Police officials and commandos have been deployed around mosques to supplement the security guards hired by the management at mosques. Senior Superintendent of Police for Islamabad Liaqat Ali Khan said in a statement that security measures had been put in place at Faisal Mosque. He said policemen were thoroughly checking the people at the entrance. He said that secret agencies had also submitted reports to the Interior Ministry warning of potential security threats.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/06/2004 8:46:26 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Loks like a bad link.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/07/2004 20:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Fixed.
Posted by: Fred || 11/07/2004 20:48 Comments || Top||

#3  They probably don't want anybody breaking in and stealing all their guns and ammo religious artifacts.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/07/2004 20:49 Comments || Top||


Jihad is not terrorism: Qazi
I think that particular fine distinction has been pretty much worn out. Qazi hasn't noticed yet, but he's not very good at subtlty.
The Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal's chief, Qazi Husain Ahmed, defended jihad on Friday and said it could not be equated with terrorism because it manifested struggle for the right of the oppressed against the cruel and was aimed at establishing a society based on justice.
To establish a society based on justice, it's necessary to cut people's heads off...
Speaking at a Friday congregation, he said Islam emphasises justice and teaches its followers not to accept slavery of any aggressor and worship only Allah the Almighty. "Denial of justice spawns cruelty in society and paves the way for injustice and atrocities against the oppressed and the poor," he said. He said the Holy Quran was revealed in Ramazan and it teaches the Ummah to wage jihad against terrorism and establish a system based on justice and equity. He said Islam also teaches to Muslims strengthen themselves. "The people of Kashmir and Palestine are facing state terrorism. America, Israel and India have become terrorist states and killing innocent people in the occupied Muslim territories," he said.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/06/2004 8:39:46 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think he means just-us.
Posted by: raptor || 11/07/2004 20:43 Comments || Top||

#2  At least we're in good company in the axis of anti-terror.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/07/2004 20:44 Comments || Top||

#3  we need to call him on this - I'm thinking we take our "terrorism" to his fat forehead with a bullet
Posted by: Frank G || 11/07/2004 20:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Jihad isn't terroism. Jihadies are the enemy. Terroism is the tactic that jihadies use to kill people. Jihad is the call to arms for the fake religion of islam. It must have a cut-throat arm or it will lose its hold on the folks.

I think the islamic jihad should be classfied as a Nazi, Communist, or voodoo screed and challenged to a smack down.

What I fear is our Constitution being used as an easy allibi for jihad, under freedom of religion regs, Any religion that has jihad as a tenent must not be allowed to be classified as a religion. Nope, it's political and therefore not subject to suicide regs.

So simple but so little understood.
Posted by: Lucky || 11/07/2004 20:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Hear! Hear Lucky!
Posted by: Shipman || 11/07/2004 20:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Jihad is not terrorism: Qazi

Have it your way, Qazi. Oh, and just for the record, we won't kill you, it'll merely be "sanctioning with extreme prejudice."

PS: Another vote for making such a distinction, Lucky. Only when Islam detaches itself from all political ambitions should it be allowed back into the revival tent.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/07/2004 20:46 Comments || Top||



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