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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Read a Book, Get Oral Sex?
I love to...read.
By Larry Fine
The Larry Fine?!
NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York officials were red-faced on Friday after they discovered that clothing ads on city buses that appeared to promote reading suggested a love of books could be rewarded with oral sex.
I love...books.
The advertisements that ran on about 200 buses across the city in recent months carried posters displaying a suggestively posed woman in hot pants kneeling among a pile of books beside the snappy slogan "Read Books, Get Brain."
Oh, I thought it said something like, "Read this book and I'll blow you."
What unhip, unsuspecting local transportation officials did not know was that "get brain" is street slang for oral sex.
I'll have to remember that...
The ads -- from hip-hop clothing maker Akademiks, which intended the double-entendre -- was stripped off New York buses on Friday after transportation officials discovered the street slang meaning. Metropolitan Transit Authority spokesman Tom Kelly condemned the "vulgar street phrases" in the racy ads he said were "demeaning women."
He then departed to...read.
"To me and I believe to everyone else, while it was done by a clothing line, it would give the impression that it was also promoting reading and literacy," Kelly told Reuters. "It's easy enough to understand how that would get by based upon someone not knowing the expression." A spokesman for the New York-based clothing maker noted the ad campaign had run since September and "we hadn't had any complaints at all."
Dumbass honkies...
New York officials may not be the only ones caught out.
Akademiks also placed the ads on buses and bus shelters in Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles, Detroit, San Francisco and Philadelphia, the company spokesman said. Kelly, who said he was his 60s, said that after he was tipped to the hidden meaning of the phrase on Thursday he ran a test among some young MTA workers. "I went downstairs to the mailroom and showed some of the young guys a copy of the ad," he said. "I was watching their faces and they all start smirking.
...and reading.
"Apparently it's on all the music, in music that's how they refer to it," Kelly said. "I didn't know anything about it and I'm sure the people that approved the ad didn't."
Kelly said it was sad that "you can't take things at face value any longer," adding, "We'll have to learn from experience before we accept ads."
Heywood Jablome was not available for comment.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/05/2004 4:08:01 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hmmm...and cow dung on the image of Mary was not "demeaning women"? Good enough for public funding. At least these Yahoos were paying for their bit of 'humor'. Strange what takes to outrage officials in New York.
Posted by: Don || 11/05/2004 16:34 Comments || Top||

#2  I've read an awful lot of books in my 49 plus years. I think I'm way behind on brain. A brain shortfall, I'd call it. I guess I haven't met enough brainy women.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/05/2004 16:49 Comments || Top||

#3  I love to read as well
Posted by: Dr. Craven Moorehead || 11/05/2004 16:53 Comments || Top||

#4  "Read a book and I'll give you some nook" woulda been better.

I've read a few books...where does the line start? :)
Posted by: Jules 187 || 11/05/2004 17:01 Comments || Top||

#5  Would you like to see my bookshelves...
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/05/2004 18:18 Comments || Top||

#6  Seems to be a good day for offensive ad campains . . .
Posted by: gp || 11/05/2004 20:42 Comments || Top||


Geek Boyz Alert!
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith teaser trailer begins Thursday, November 4th. The movie doesn't open till sometime in the summer, but the fanboyz are already drooling:
I just had the honor to watch the teaser trailer for Revenge of the Sith, oh about 10 times in a row and I'll probably watch it another 10 times, and let me say that it blew me away. The description of the trailer floating around the Web is 99.9% correct. The trailer does begin with "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way." and includes Alec Guiness famous line "A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi knights. He betrayed and murdered your father."

Some awesome highlights I should point out include a hooded Anakin with glowing red eyes - much like Darth Maul's, a scene of the Emperor wielding a lightsaber, I'm assuming during his battle with Yoda, which looks like he is throwing across the room. In what seems to be a full out war over Coruscant we see an early prototype of the X-Wing fighter with an extra wing cutting across the fighter and a curved nose. There's also a shot of a group of Wookies lead by Chewbacca getting ready to attack. We also hear James Earl Jones speak as Vader though his voice is a slight different then we are used to hearing in the original trilogy.

Let me say that the very first glimpse you see as Vader rises is jaw dropping. I highly recommending setting your TIVO to capture this because you will be wanting to pause and go back to the quick montage. My friend has confirmed that the trailer will be played in its entirety on Access Hollywood Thursday night.


So that's where the Kerry voters went, they're in line for the movie already.
Posted by: Steve || 11/05/2004 1:28:36 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


How Sweet It Is
A tractor trailer carrying 45,000 pounds of liquid chocolate separated and overturned on I-390 North in Livingston County around 5:00 p.m. Thursday. There were no serious injuries, but the accident created a river of chocolate that stopped traffic for over six hours.

New York State troopers said Bert Nestlerode of Ephrata, PA-- the driver of the rig from the Mars Candy Company--swerved to avoid a deer and lost control of the vehicle. The trailer separated and careened over the guardrail onto the G&W railroad tracks of the Hampton Corners salt mine. The cab continued on I-390 and came to rest near the Mt. Morris exit. The load of liquid chocolate spilled, coating the highway and tracks. The trucks tires resembled giant chocolate-covered donuts.

Officers and emergency workers on the scene said they had never seen anything like it. However, due to the low temperatures, the chocolate soon solidified, making cleanup a bit more manageable. Nestlerode was treated and released for injuries at Strong Memorial Hospital. The six-hour cleanup interrupted both car and train traffic. I 390 is the north/south highway between Rochester, NY and Corning, NY
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/05/2004 1:13:15 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The trucks tires resembled giant chocolate-covered donuts.

Police were on the scene immediately.

But, really, this story has to be fake. Look at the driver's name: "Nestle-rode"?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/05/2004 14:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Mmmmmmmmm...giant chocolate-covered donuts...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/05/2004 14:09 Comments || Top||

#3  This is terrible! Imagine how many unfortunate creatures will be hit, as they graze upon the remnants, between now and the next good rain!

I can see the headlines now, "LifeTime and Oxygen Channel Ratings Mysteriously Plummet!"...
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 14:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Michael Moore is en route with his spoon camera crew.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/05/2004 14:19 Comments || Top||

#5  LOL .com!
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 16:02 Comments || Top||

#6  Ship - Sometimes I think you 'n me and Frank are the only incorrigibly and utterly politically-incorrect guys on RB, lol! Frank must be out building bridges today, heh. Imagine that - working during the workday! Cheers, my man!
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 16:12 Comments || Top||

#7  lurking between meetings today......
Posted by: Frank G || 11/05/2004 16:25 Comments || Top||

#8  Be you well met, yet? Lol! Gawd I hate meetings.
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 16:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Robert Crawford - I noticed that too. :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/05/2004 22:26 Comments || Top||


Batter up!
NEW BRAUNFELS, Texas — Comal County health officials were searching for two future Darwin Award winners teenagers who were seen playing with a sick bat that tested positive for rabies. The boys were using the bat instead of a bean bag in a game of hacky sack, in which players try to keep a bean bag off the ground by kicking it to each other, Comal County Health Department nurse Karon Preiss said. The teenagers ran away after a nurse saw them, told them to stop and called Animal Control officers. The bat tested positive for rabies at the Texas Department of Health laboratory. It was not known if the boys touched the bat with their bare hands or if they were bitten or scratched, the San Antonio Express-News reported Friday.
one can only hope...
The rabies virus affects the central nervous system of warm-blooded animals and can be transmitted through the saliva of infected animals. Rabies can be prevented with a vaccine after initial exposure, but health officials can do little for victims once symptoms set in. The earliest symptoms often are tingling or numbness in the limb or area where there was a bite, followed by a lack of coordination, agitation, headache, hallucinations and seizures. Eventually, the patient goes into a coma and dies.
Posted by: IG-88 || 11/05/2004 11:09:45 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "symptoms often are ... a lack of coordination, agitation, headache, hallucinations and seizures."

'Batty' then, you could say.
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/05/2004 12:07 Comments || Top||

#2  "...a lack of coordination, agitation, headache, hallucinations and seizures."

They were playing with Democrats?
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 11/05/2004 12:32 Comments || Top||

#3  The earliest symptoms often are tingling or numbness in the limb or area where there was a bite, followed by a lack of coordination, agitation, headache, hallucinations and seizures. Eventually, the patient goes into a coma and dies.

You get that from eating bad fish too. I saw it on "Airplane".
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/05/2004 13:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Beavis and Butthead live.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/05/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#5  ... Not for long, though.
Posted by: someone || 11/05/2004 13:35 Comments || Top||

#6  Peta has no comments?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/05/2004 13:55 Comments || Top||


F-16 Strafes NJ School, French Class Surrenders
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 01:48 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You're on a roll today .com! :)
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 11/05/2004 3:29 Comments || Top||

#2 
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 3:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Payback for not supporting Bush?
Posted by: Tom || 11/05/2004 8:08 Comments || Top||

#4  "Just say no to drugs... or next time, it's bunker busters!"
Posted by: BH || 11/05/2004 10:19 Comments || Top||

#5  National Guard spokesman Maj. Sheldon Smith told News4, "Anytime something like this happens we take it very seriously and as a result, we're going through an investigation, we're beginning the investigation process."

Translation: They're in the "WTF?" phase.

Investigators said the F-16 was flying at 7,000 feet when the incident took place. The pilot's name has not been released but military officials say he was involved in a training exercise near a base run by the New Jersey Air National Guard. They said it's unclear if he was aiming at a target and missed.

One would hope it wasn't on purpose. Has anyone checked to see if he attended school there?

"I know generally when they go up, there are targets that they try to hit. But at the time he fired the rounds I can't say that he intended to fire the rounds at that moment," Sheldon said.

Major Sheldon Smith is obviously a honor grad of DINFOS.
Posted by: Steve || 11/05/2004 11:02 Comments || Top||

#6  Bet there was a stuffed tiger along for the ride.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 12:16 Comments || Top||

#7  Shipman--LOL--If dinosaurs are running rampant through the playground too, we have our culprit!
Posted by: Dar || 11/05/2004 12:24 Comments || Top||

#8  From Global Security: On 03 November 2004 an 113th Fighter Wing of the District of Columbia Air National Guard fighter jet fired eight high-powered cannon rounds through the roof of an Ocean County elementary school. The pilot of the single-seat F-16 was preparing for target practice at the nearby Warren Grove Gunnery Range when the aircraft's 20mm M61-A1 Vulcan cannon accidentally discharged, firing 25 rounds in rapid succession.

Bad pilot, bad. Keep your finger off the trigger while arming the cannon. No more flights for you.
Posted by: Steve || 11/05/2004 13:28 Comments || Top||

#9  maybe the school looks like a certain building on the river in New York City that houses sniveling diplomats that advocate more discussion with the various Iraqi 'factions.'
and it was a practice run.......
Posted by: USN, retired || 11/05/2004 18:47 Comments || Top||

#10  Now, Sen. Frank Lautenburg (D- Cheatsville, NJ) wants all NJ NG flights halted - never miss a chance for a cheap political point. What an asshole

Posted by: Frank G || 11/05/2004 19:07 Comments || Top||

#11  Be nice, Frank.
Okay?
Posted by: NJANG || 11/05/2004 22:11 Comments || Top||


New puppy to pad around White House
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 01:37 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh, goody, new Christmas Barney-cam.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/05/2004 20:31 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Awesome power of Iceland volcano
A spectacular volcanic eruption under an Iceland glacier has forced airlines to divert flights to avoid flying through gas emissions from the blast. The volcano first erupted on Monday, sending thick black smoke and ash heading towards continental Europe. Since then, Grímsvötn volcano has produced a steady stream of ash and lava, with explosions sending ash up to 12,000m (40,000 feet) in the air. It is thought to have been caused by drainage of a lake under the glacier. But ash from the eruption under Vatnajökull glacier - Iceland's biggest - has landed in Norway, Sweden and Finland. The eruption was also violent enough to set off earth tremors. The ashfall in Iceland has caused some problems for wildlife in the area. For instance, farmers have brought their sheep inside to prevent them from grazing on land covered with shards of abrasive "glass-like" material deposited by the eruption.

Oli Thor Arnarsson of the Icelandic Meteorological Office said a change in the wind could send the cloud toward central Europe. "We are speculating that the eruption should be clear tomorrow. But if there are more eruptions, we may have ash over central Europe," he said. Grímsvötn last erupted six years ago and before that in 1995 and 1993, causing flooding. The volcano lies on the Atlantic Rift, the meeting of the Euro and American continental plates. The three major volcanoes of Iceland - Hekla, Katla and Grímsvötn - lie on the same fault line.
Wonder if this counts against Iceland in the Kyoto accord?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 4:18:47 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wonder if this is the same valcano that erupted (a few years ago)under a glacier.The flooding was so bad,boulders the size of houses were rolling down stream.
Posted by: raptor || 11/05/2004 7:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Cool
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/05/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Well Iceland's over the Kyoto limit for the next 3,500 years.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 12:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Raptor, it is. The volcano, a lake in the volcanos caldera and the ice cap over are in a cycle (7 years-ish) where the lake overflows, releases pressure on the volcano that then erupts and melts the ice cap. Must be a one hell of a sight.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/05/2004 15:16 Comments || Top||

#5  Anybody speak Icelandic? What the hell does the name "Grimsvotn" mean?
Posted by: mojo || 11/05/2004 15:46 Comments || Top||

#6  It goes back to 1842 when the Grimm brothers got likered up and attacked the Althing with lead weighted ballot box.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 17:04 Comments || Top||

#7  vötn means lakes (singular, vatn) probably in reference to the caldera.

Grim may be a contraction of "grimmr" meaning fierce. Or it could be the name of a character in a Saga.

There is a nearby mountain called Grímsfjalli (~ Mount Grim).
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/05/2004 17:33 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Khalifa appointed new UAE president
Details also of Sheikh Zayed's funeral at link. Notable: Hamid Karzai attends as President of Afghanistan.
[O]n Wednesday, Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan was chosen as the President of the United Arab Emirates, the official Emirates news agency WAM reported. The decision was taken by the Supreme Council, which comprises the leaders of the seven constituent emirates, their brothers and their crown princes, WAM said. "The Supreme Council of the Emirates held a meeting and unanimously elected Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, ruler of Abu Dhabi, as the president of the state," WAM reported. Sheikh Khalifa, 56, had been increasingly running the UAE before Wednesday's announcement. He heads Abu Dhabi's Supreme Petroleum Council, which drafts oil policy, and is deputy supreme commander of the armed forces. The pro-Western moderniser also heads the UAE's economic body. Deputy President Sheikh Maktoum bin Rashed al-Maktoum, who is also ruler of Dubai, had earlier taken the reins for the transition.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/05/2004 3:58:37 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Such strong democratic traditions resulting in a peaceful transition of power deeply pleasing to all citizens of the UAE. Exit polls confirm. We can only hope to emulate our betters, our Arab brethren, as they lead the way. (WANW*)

* We Are Not Worthy
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 1:27 Comments || Top||

#2  "The Supreme Council", nice ring to that.
Posted by: Lucky || 11/05/2004 13:15 Comments || Top||


Britain
'Crime pays' for classic cars
THE remarkable results of a recent car auction would appear to indicate that sometimes crime does pay. An Austin Healey is a desirable classic car, but would not normally fetch almost £26,000 these days. However, when it comes to collectors' items the so-called provenance can be of paramount importance and in this case it was the fact that the car used to belong to a gentleman by the name of Bruce Reynolds. He was one of the infamous Great Train Robbers and, bizarrely, this makes the Healey worth more than it would otherwise be. British bidders lost out to an un-named European buyer, who is believed to be Russian, when the car fetched £25,800.

The Healey was one of 70 classics that came under the hammer at this month's H&H Auction at Buxton, which indicated that interest in classic cars and associated memorabilia is on the rise. Prices fluctuate wildly over the decades with people making and losing fortunes according to the strength of the market, which seems to be currently high. A prototype 1953 Healey 100 Turin Show car made £38,700 while a 1937 Frazer Nash single-seater fetched £150,500 and the 1971 Ford Escort driven by Hannu Mikkola in the Safari Rally of the same year sold for £40,850. A Penny Farthing bicycle dating back to 1870 realised more than double its estimate at £914 and a 1908 Rex motorcycle with sidecar sold for £18,275. A Mercury & Pegasus mascot by Rossi of Eastbourne fetched £1,183 and a programme for the 1938 Donnington Grand Prix raised £1,075. The next sale will be at Buxton on December 7-8. Details from www.classic-auctions.com.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 5:54:10 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  40 grand for a '71'Escort.I guess some people have more money than brains!
Posted by: raptor || 11/05/2004 8:07 Comments || Top||

#2  guy goes into a parts store and says:" I'd like a gas cap for a Yugo, and the counterman says - 'sounds like a fair trade'"
*rimshot*

I'm here all week - try the Arafish, it's fresh and almost dead
Posted by: Frank G || 11/05/2004 8:21 Comments || Top||

#3  lol Frank
Posted by: Spot || 11/05/2004 9:02 Comments || Top||

#4  :) Mr G.

I love cool cars though. The new Vett has me thinking ridiculas thoughts, wild fantasies of lust and teenage girls.

I did buy a 95 Z28 new. It's got 43,000 miles and is now mostly retired and in cherry condition. Dark met green, dark grey leather, and T-tops, all stock. I hope to one day cash in on the crazy collector car mkt.

When you buy a car. Ask what will they think about this car in the future. Think GTO, Malibu SS, the like.
Posted by: Lucky || 11/05/2004 13:33 Comments || Top||

#5  Listen to the Lucky man. And I add a caveat, never buy a car which will actively try and kill you, a Sunbeam Tiger for instance or a 1973 Rancher with a 351 Cleaveland (yes, they did). Weight, power and blance in reverse order.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 16:06 Comments || Top||

#6  I did buy a 95 Z28 new.

Cool. You're all set to cruise Revere Beach!

(Mass. humor: IROC - Italian Retard Out Cruising)
Posted by: Raj || 11/05/2004 20:00 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
ARMENIA: BLOOD AND BILE
When a crime is committed in front of television cameras and dozens of eyewitnesses, and its perpetrators are arrested less than 24 hours later, few would expect it not to be solved. And few Armenians did so when five gunmen turned themselves in after seizing their parliament and spraying it with bullets exactly five years ago. It seemed that there was so much factual evidence that even the most incompetent law-enforcement official would quickly establish the truth about a shocking attack that killed eight senior officials, including Armenia's then-prime minister, Vazgen Sarkisian and the speaker of parliament, Karen Demirchian.

Yet precisely what happened inside and outside the parliament building in Yerevan on 27 October 1999 is still a mystery and may never be known. Increasingly, the case resembles the 1963 assassination of U.S. President John Kennedy, many circumstances of which remain unknown to this day. The most important unanswered question in both high-profile killings is who masterminded them. That mystery is particularly acute in Armenia, where President Robert Kocharian is still dogged by allegations that he was personally involved in the shootings despite the absence of compelling evidence against him.
Much more at the link, including a convenient jailhouse "suicide" and missing videotape.
Posted by: Steve || 11/05/2004 11:39:29 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When the Iranian nuke issue is finally addressed Armenia, which sits on Iran's northern border, will be a key player on the side of the good guys.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 18:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Armenia was aided by Iran in its war against Azerbaijan.

So, I'd bet on Azerbaijan being on the side of the "good guys" instead. Especially since there's a big Azeri minority on the north of Iran. Though unlike the Kurds in Iraq, that one doesn't seem to be an especially oppressed one (more so than the rest of the country anyway).
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 11/05/2004 19:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Aris, I see this coming situation in terms of Orthodox Christian Armenia has nothing to gain by the continuation of radical Islamic Shi'ites with nuclear weapons in Tehran and therefore would looking forward to a 'normal' Iran once again.

On the other hand, the vast majority of Azerbaijanis are Shi'ite, although the most do NOT the 7th century mindset of the mullahs to the south they are Shi'ites.

Also the following: 'Iran generally followed pragmatic policies towards Armenia. Although Iran supported Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity, its economic relations with Armenia improved and Iran continued to be an important state for Armenia even after the cease- fire in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.'

The issue of Nagorno-Karabakh can be brokered by leading non-partisan powers after Iran is brought back to the 21st century.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 20:13 Comments || Top||


Europe
One More Knife in the Back for Turkey. For Good Measure.....
Chirac says Turkey may not make it to EU
Cue Nelson Muntz: Ha Ha!
French President Jacques Chirac cautioned on Friday that Turkey might never reach the standards required for European Union membership and the bloc might have to find an alternative way to tie it to Europe. Chirac reaffirmed that he fully supported delaying things as long as possible opening accession negotiations with Ankara, as recommended by the executive European Commission, and hoped Turkey would just go away already eventually join the 25-nation bloc. But in what appeared to be a nod to widespread hostility to Turkish membership in France, which has dented his already plummeting popularity, he told a news conference at an EU summit that the outcome of the process was uncertain. "Naturellement one can't underestimate the possibility that in a few years' time we come to realise that ... the road that Turkey has to travel doesn't permit it to adopt all the values of Europe," he said. "In that case, what has to be found is a means to create a sufficiently strong link so that there is no separation between Europe and Turkey, without there being integration."
Oui, M. le President. Separate but almost equal.
Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul played down Chirac's remarks, saying they reflected French domestic politics. "President Chirac is very wise, he's handled it very wisely, he's a great statesman. I think his statement should not be misread," he told Reuters.
"See? I'm smiling, here. My teeth are clenched, but I'm smiling. Smile smile smile."
Gul told reporters he was following the French debate on Turkish membership and saw it as an internal matter, but he hoped it would be kept separate from a debate on the ratification of a constitutional treaty for the bloc. Chirac's own conservative UMP party has opposed Turkish EU membership, as has the centre-right UDF party and some of the opposition Socialists. The president said the issues should be examined calmly a few years after Turkey has begun negotiations and not made subject to "politicians' squabbling."
"These things take time. And long, long lunches."
Germany's opposition Christian Democrats say the EU should negotiate a "privileged partnership" instead of full membership. Diplomats said Chirac's comments did not call into question an expected EU decision on Dec. 17 to begin open-ended accession talks with Turkey next year.
Posted by: danking70 || 11/05/2004 1:59:38 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Too bad the Turks looked to Europe instead of trying to fashion a stronger relationship with the US. Turkey could have been the dominant power in a revitalized Middle East.
Posted by: RWV || 11/05/2004 14:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Lol! Oh Gul, you are such a tool!
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 14:51 Comments || Top||

#3  OK, I have to say this to Turkey:

I TOLD YOU SO!
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/05/2004 14:58 Comments || Top||

#4  If you lie down with weasels, you wake up with a piece of cutlery between the shoulder blades.
Posted by: Mike || 11/05/2004 14:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Where's Murat?

"Privleged partnership" is that sorta like sittin' in the back of the bus?
Posted by: AlanC || 11/05/2004 15:02 Comments || Top||

#6  HA! Gul'd again!
Posted by: mojo || 11/05/2004 15:23 Comments || Top||

#7  Turkey is not part of Europe. They're a Moslem country that shares none of the European heritage of the Renaissance, Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution.

The only thing they should have between Europe and Turkey is a free-trade agreement, after proper apologies and compensation for the Armenian genocide. Then let them grow a bit more prosperous and see if they adopt pro-freedom attitudes. Probably will. In a generation or two. Especially if Iraq becomes the Japan of the Middle East.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/05/2004 15:28 Comments || Top||

#8  Gee, I wonder if Turkey would be willing to belong to a "Middle East Union" along with Iraq and Israel?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/05/2004 15:41 Comments || Top||

#9  Yabbut if Iraq becomes the Japan of the Middle East, why would Turkey want to bother hooking up with Europe?
[The above was writ sarcastik.]
Posted by: Old Grouch || 11/05/2004 15:42 Comments || Top||

#10  Oui, M. le President. Separate but almost equal.

Damn, speaking of cutlery between the shoulderblades!

9.86
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 15:45 Comments || Top||

#11  Ya know, I was thinking about Turkey. If the ME would get its head out of its Jiihadi ass long enough, it would be neat to have a ME type common market between, say Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and eventually Israel. Others could come in as they escaped the fetters of Islamofascism. The US could develop close trading ties with this common market. There is a lot hinging on Iraq right now. But I see no future for Turkey with the EU except trade. I can dream, can't I?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/05/2004 16:08 Comments || Top||

#12  Nice plunge but they're not twisting the knife. Twist it! Twist it, dammit! Give it a twist! Twist! Aw heck, here - lemme.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/05/2004 16:14 Comments || Top||

#13  As Jaques looks down from the castle walls

Go away you silly boys, you ignorant fruit trop wollopers. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries

With appologies to the boys from Monty Python
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 11/05/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#14  The only thing they should have between Europe and Turkey is a very big wall, heavily mined on the European side.

Posted by: Ulique Snearong2968 || 11/05/2004 18:31 Comments || Top||

#15  The heck with where Murat is, where is Aris? What's the deal here? The EU can't possibly be too bigoted against those "separate but equal" "darkies" in Turkey, can they?
Posted by: Asedwich || 11/05/2004 19:26 Comments || Top||

#16  It's not the color of their skin, but that they rejected Christianity in the wrong century.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/05/2004 19:30 Comments || Top||

#17  Turkey is potentially a key player in the success of Iraq.

Forget about military considerations and look at where the major rivers originate. If it wanted and were willing to push things, Turkey could make a decent stab at controlling water flow throughout much of the Middle East.

Fortunately dams are easy to blow up.
Posted by: rkb || 11/05/2004 19:50 Comments || Top||

#18  I dunno, Mrs. Davis. I've traveled extensively in Eastern Europe with an early-christian/Baroque musical group, and my darker colleagues were greeted as a not-entirely-welcome novelty. Kind of like the greeting a talking dog gets---not welcome because it talks well, but simple amazement that it talks at all. The reception we got in many churches left me with a bad taste.
Posted by: Asedwich || 11/05/2004 19:55 Comments || Top||

#19  D'Estaing (sp) told them right after they screwed US that they're not going to become a part of Turkey.

They've been telling that all along.

Not my fault they fell for the frog prince's promises.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/05/2004 19:56 Comments || Top||

#20  I think Kalle nailed the best case situation for Turkey, a free trade agreement. What benefit do Europeans get by opening the border w/ Turkey vs. the downside.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2004 20:34 Comments || Top||

#21 

Haahahaahahaaaa!!!!

Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/05/2004 22:56 Comments || Top||


Captain Gerard Norton, VC
Decorated for breaking the German line in Italy, in later life he was evicted from his family's farm in Zimbabwe.
Nobody, nobody writes an obit like the British newspapers. Read this one and learn about an extraordinary, ordinary man.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2004 12:46:58 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  God rest his soul.

I recommend The Telegraph's book of war obituaries - compelling reading.
Posted by: Howard_UK || 11/05/2004 4:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Here..
Posted by: Howard_UK || 11/05/2004 4:36 Comments || Top||

#3 
Posted by: Howard_UK || 11/05/2004 4:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Evicted? I doubt it was because he fell behind on the payments. At least it probably went to a "war veteran". Right, Bob?
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/05/2004 8:56 Comments || Top||

#5  "Toys" Norton's death reduces to 14 the number of living holders of the VC.

Wow. One from Korea, Nam and Borneo (1965). The rest WWII. Is the Lion become a lamb?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/05/2004 9:16 Comments || Top||

#6  I think they may get one or two out of Iraq. I'd suggest the officer or noncom who organized that bayonet charge, for example. SAS or SBS activity might generate one, also.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/05/2004 9:59 Comments || Top||

#7  One rumored for an engagement following an ambush around Al Amarra - different to the bayonet charge. Someone managed to drive a tank out of danger whilst being unconscious and strafed enemy positions using his big toe to operate the cannon. Usual VC stuff.
Posted by: Howard_UK || 11/05/2004 11:05 Comments || Top||

#8  The US has awarded only two MOH since Vietnam, both for Somalia. Full list can be found here.
Posted by: Steve || 11/05/2004 11:10 Comments || Top||

#9  That man could make a horse cry.
Posted by: raptor || 11/05/2004 18:57 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
It's All Your Fault
With Bush's crushing defeat of Kerry in last night's election, you are no doubt asking yourself, as we at MoveOnPlease have all morning: did I do enough? Where can the blame be placed? We think the answer is self-evident: the fault rests with you, the MoveOnPlease reader. We're not angry. We're calm. We're just stating the facts.

You mouth-breathing freaking idiots.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2004 22:54 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Kerry Aides Blame Puffy, Bill Clinton, Daughter
As the Kerry campaign disintegrates into oblivion, the finger pointing in the Democratic ranks has already begun.

The New York Post's must-read Page Six reports that numbers of notable figures in the 2004 campaign are being roasted by party insiders.

These include:

Alexandra Kerry: The paper said John Kerry's daughter "made a splash at the Cannes Film Festival last spring when she appeared on the red carpet in a see-through dress."
Campaign "insiders snipe that all she did was rack up major expenses. 'She had an entourage of five people with her everywhere she went.' A hairdresser, makeup artist, publicist and two assistants. It ended up costing something like $8,000 a month. And she didn't exactly do anything."

Sean "Puffy" Combs: The rap mogul made national headlines with his "Vote or Die" effort to get young voters to register and vote. But they never materialized at the polls.

"He was just a nuisance," the Post quotes one Kerry aide as saying. "The whole thing was a joke. No one outside of New York or L.A. gives a hoot about this guy. All he did was get himself press."

Terry McAuliffe and Bill Clinton: The Post says Clinton and his top fund-raiser, who heads the Democratic Party, caused the disaster. The Post has reported that some analysts say Clinton's emergence in the closing days of the campaign "energized" the Republican base.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 9:21:36 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah, it had nothing to do with the horseshit candidate you ran out. Nothing at all. But these boobs, and soooooo many others helped to make sure Jawnny boy will be windsurfing to Bolivian soon.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/05/2004 21:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Guess he didn't have a plan after all.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 11/05/2004 22:26 Comments || Top||

#3  That was just the tip of the iceberg. There was so much more about how cluster-fucked the kerry campaign on Larry Elder tonight, I can't get into it all but let's just say most insiders feel that Terayza didn't do Johnny any favors.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/05/2004 22:34 Comments || Top||

#4  I would have expected the Kerry-a-grudgelings to start bitching how Clinton didn't appear enough so as to prop up Hillary. But they will probably play that card too, being so ambidextrous.
Posted by: Rufus Lee King || 11/05/2004 23:23 Comments || Top||


Americans flock to Canada's immigration Web site
OTTAWA (Reuters) - The number of U.S. citizens visiting Canada's main immigration Web site has shot up six-fold as Americans flirt with the idea of abandoning their homeland after President George W. Bush's election win this week.
Anyone want to mirror this website for them -- we dont want them to go down under the rush and leave any of these idiots here.....
"When we looked at the first day after the election, November 3, our Web site hit a new high, almost double the previous record high," immigration ministry spokeswoman Maria Iadinardi said on Friday.

On an average day some 20,000 people in the United States log onto the Web site, www.cic.gc.ca -- a figure which rocketed to 115,016 on Wednesday. The number of U.S. visits settled down to 65,803 on Thursday, still well above the norm.

Bush's victory sparked speculation that disconsolate Democrats and others deadheads might decide to start a new life in Canada, a land that tilts more to the left than the United States.

Asked whether an applicant would be looked upon more sympathetically if they claimed to be a sad Democrat seeking to escape four more years of Bush, Iadinardi replied: "There would be no weight given to statements of feelings."

Canada is one of the few major nations with an large-scale immigration policy. Ottawa is seeking to attract between 220,000 and 240,000 newcomers next year.

"Let's face it, we have a population of a little over 32 million and we definitely need permanent residents to come to Canada," said Iadinardi. "If we could meet (the 2005) target and go above it, the more the merrier."
I really dont think these are the types of people you want.... beleve me....
But right now it is too early to say whether the increased interest will result in more applications.

"We'll only find out whether there has been an increase in applications in six months."

The waiting time to become a citizen is shorter for people married to Canadians, which prompted the birth of a satirical Web site called www.marryanamerican.ca.

The idea of increased immigration by unhappy Americans is triggering some amusement in Canada. Commentator Thane Burnett of the Ottawa Sun newspaper wrote a tongue-in-cheek guide to would-be new citizens on Friday.

"As Canadians, you'll have to learn to embrace and use all the products and culture of Americans, while bad-mouthing their way of life," he said.
Dont worry, these blood sucking parasites people have that down pat. They have lots of practice enjoying the freedoms of the USA while ridiculing those who are willing to sacrifice themselves to defend that freedom.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/05/2004 5:12:44 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  LOL I was talk with my Buddies up in Edmonton. They are laughing their asses off. They don't like the look of the moonbats and wack heads that want to imigrate.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/05/2004 17:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Marry Me
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/05/2004 17:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Mrs D -- Lol! Hey, there's an off chance that some of our moonbats just might be serious (yea!) - the link has been swamped since you posted it! Do it, tools, do it!
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 18:05 Comments || Top||

#4  This proves the Bush Bashers only wanted Kerry or hit the highway. Clean up America-push them over the border, but first make sure IRS takes aways their U.S. passports, since once they leave there is no returning.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 18:16 Comments || Top||

#5  Be sure to view some of those pledges.... there are some real 'losers' in there.....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/05/2004 18:37 Comments || Top||

#6  The more of the scum that jumps the border the better. The minute they are let in we should revolk their citizenship and place their names on a permanent list of dumb-asses that black balled from entering the states ever again. F%@K the whole lot of them, maybe they would be happier if they was all deported to North Korea, Iraq, Iran and any other half-ass third world country that will take their sorry asses.
Posted by: Ol Soldier || 11/05/2004 19:12 Comments || Top||

#7  I hope the moonbats hurry up and LEAVE.

(No disrespect mean to Canadian Rantburgers.)
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/05/2004 19:17 Comments || Top||

#8  Ottawa is seeking to attract between 220,000 and 240,000 newcomers next year.

And all of them will end up in the greater Toronto area.
Posted by: Rafael || 11/05/2004 19:54 Comments || Top||

#9  That may be 240,000 less votes for the 2008 Democratic Nominee. Good Bye !! Dont let the Door hit you in the Ass on the way out !!!
Posted by: leo88 || 11/05/2004 20:04 Comments || Top||

#10  Oh,goody, up close and personal experience w/HillaryCare.

What do you mean the government tells me when I can get an x-ray? 6 weeks????
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/05/2004 20:18 Comments || Top||

#11  >>> a satirical Web site called www.marryanamerican.ca.<<<

You mean, those oversexed fringe-oids whom I pledged my soul to were....cruel absurdities?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Posted by: Rufus Lee King || 11/05/2004 23:38 Comments || Top||


It's finally official! Bush wins Iowa
Iowa's seven electoral votes fell into President Bush's column Friday, making it the final state to be settled in this year's presidential election. Although there was little suspense about the outcome since Democratic nominee John Kerry conceded the election Wednesday, the shift sends a troubling signal to Democrats who are finding once-comfortable states in the Upper Midwest increasingly competitive.
Bush laid claim to Iowa's electoral votes as county officials continued to count absentee and provisional ballots. By Friday, those totals showed Bush with 745,980 votes to Kerry's 732,764 and the number of votes remaining uncounted was far too small to change the outcome. Iowa has voted Democratic in every presidential election since 1984, but Bush put a high priority on winning back the state, including two campaign stops the day before the election. Along with Iowa, Republicans narrowly lost Wisconsin and Minnesota, putting in play three states that Democrats have counted as part of their political base.
Final score: Bush - 286, Kerry - 252
Posted by: Steve || 11/05/2004 3:39:14 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I would be willing to bet that Bush actually won Michigan and Pennsylvania. The Democratic shenaniganss in Philly and Pittsburgh and Detroit appeared to be widespread.
Posted by: Tibor || 11/05/2004 16:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Nailed it. I went 50 for 50 on this election.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2004 16:12 Comments || Top||

#3  I assume you cheated Dr. White. I saw that spreadsheet, it was crooked and changeable, a veritable devils playground of bad choices and worse outcomes.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 16:50 Comments || Top||

#4  I think there was definetely shady stuff going on in this election. I'm concerned about those stories of votes being on machines in penn. before the election even started. Any word on that?

I don't like the fact that these electronic voting machines have no way to check them... it's dangerous and frankly I don't understand why a decision to have it that way would ever be made.

I have a bad feeling that both sides did illegal things to win the election. I don't believe either candidate knows or knew about it but I fear that people under them may have taken matters into their own hands in some cases.

Either way I don't think it affected the outcome of this election, but in the future it might.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 11/05/2004 16:56 Comments || Top||

#5  DPA, I agree that the result didn't change, but W would have much more of a claim to a mandate if he had 38 more electoral votes (and Kerry 38 less).
Posted by: Tibor || 11/05/2004 18:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Kerry gave up on Iowa when, insulted by vegan terrorists, pig farmers refused to roduce uncounted and suppressed votes which had come from the stys on their farms, as they did four years earlier...
Posted by: BigEd || 11/05/2004 18:52 Comments || Top||

#7  A. Pigg I, A. Pigg II, A. Pigg III... proud family that one. ;)
Posted by: eLarson || 11/05/2004 19:47 Comments || Top||


Fewer But Better Democrats
HAT TIP MR. DRUDGE
Americans Flock to Canada's Immigration Web Site
"G'bye! And thanx for all the fish!"
OTTAWA (Reuters) - The number of U.S. citizens visiting Canada's main immigration Web site has shot up six-fold as Americans flirt with the idea of abandoning their homeland after President Bush's election win this week.
"The sky is falling" - C. Little
"When we looked at the first day after the election, Nov. 3, our Web site hit a new high, almost double the previous record high," immigration ministry spokeswoman Maria Iadinardi said on Friday.
Go North - Get Socialism - Sing "Kum-bye-ya"
On an average day some 20,000 people in the United States log onto the Web site, www.cic.gc.ca -- a figure which rocketed to 115,016 on Wednesday. The number of U.S. visits settled down to 65,803 on Thursday, still well above the norm.
The Ritalin is kicking in. People are settling down.
Bush's victory sparked speculation that disconsolate Democrats and others might decide to start a new life in Canada, a land that tilts more to the left than the United States.
All us right-wing nuts. We just got a little tighter!
Would-be immigrants to Canada can apply to become permanent resident, a process that often takes a year. The other main way to move north on a long-term basis is to find a job, which requires a work permit.
More bureaucrats to love.
But please spare the sob stories.
Rape will become legal - Cameron Diaz
Asked whether an applicant would be looked upon more sympathetically if they claimed to be a sad Democrat seeking to escape four more years of Bush, Iadinardi replied: "There would be no weight given to statements of feelings."
We don't neccessarily want you here either...
Canada is one of the few major nations with an large-scale immigration policy. Ottawa is seeking to attract between 220,000 and 240,000 newcomers next year.
US Democrats, and Third-World economic refugees.
"Let's face it, we have a population of a little over 32 million and we definitely need permanent residents to come to Canada," said Iadinardi. "If we could meet (the 2005) target and go above it, the more the merrier."
56 million Kerry voters is a little much, though.
But right now it is too early to say whether the increased interest will result in more applications.
As I said, the Ritalin is kicking in.
"There is no unusual activity occurring at our visa missions (in the United States). Having someone who intends to come to Canada is not the same as someone actually putting in an application," said Iadinardi.
We fear illegals from the south too!
"We'll only find out whether there has been an increase in applications in six months."
6 Months? Don't you love bureaucracy?
The waiting time to become a citizen is shorter for people married to Canadians, which prompted the birth of a satirical Web site called www.marryanamerican.ca.
I know what you are thinking...
The idea of increased immigration by unhappy Americans is triggering some amusement in Canada. Commentator Thane Burnett of the Ottawa Sun newspaper wrote a tongue-in-cheek guide to would-be new citizens on Friday.
Show Kerry Bumber Stickers on your car for express entry...
"As Canadians, you'll have to learn to embrace and use all the products and culture of Americans, while bad-mouthing their way of life," he said.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out!
Posted by: BigEd || 11/05/2004 3:33:27 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...and raised the IQ of both countries. *rimshot*

"As Canadians, you’ll have to learn to embrace and use all the products and culture of Americans, while bad-mouthing their way of life," he said.

Done and done, Sir!
Posted by: BH || 11/05/2004 15:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Fewer But Better Democrats

Depends on the individual. There's still a large number of loony Lefties running around that aren't going to try to leave for good.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/05/2004 16:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Hey we don't need any more Liberals up here. We gave you Pamela Lee Anderson and we are not taking Ben Afleck in exchange!
Posted by: Canuck || 11/05/2004 16:21 Comments || Top||

#4  It's cold up there, don't forget to wear your jacket.
Posted by: RJ Schwarz || 11/05/2004 16:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Oh, may I also recommend Brazil. There is a nice colony of ex-American plantation owners' decendents residing among the population. The original members left in 1865 rather than put up with Republicans too.
Posted by: Don || 11/05/2004 16:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Don, never heard of that before. Do you have a reference or link for more info?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/05/2004 18:24 Comments || Top||

#7  Re: #5 Look in the National Geographic Index in your public library for Confederadores or something like that. They still have cotillions, but they had to give up some of their other hobbies when Brazil outlawed Slavery in 1888.
Posted by: mom || 11/05/2004 18:54 Comments || Top||

#8  Os Confederatos

Kalle = Wesite you may find interesting
Posted by: BigEd || 11/05/2004 18:59 Comments || Top||

#9  Obrigado, BigEd!
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/05/2004 19:42 Comments || Top||


al-Guardian's Clark Co, Ohio Initiative --- Final Analysis
"Dear Limey Assholes ..."
A crazy British plot to swing Ohio to Kerry—and how it backfired. By Andy Bowers
Updated Thursday, Nov. 4, 2004, at 5:04 PM PT

Imagine being an undecided voter in Clark County, Ohio, last month... One day, you open your mailbox to find a letter from someone in England... In 2000, Al Gore won Clark County by 324 votes. And since Ralph Nader received 1,347 votes, we can assume Gore's margin would have been larger without Nader on the ballot. On Tuesday George Bush won Clark County by 1,620 votes. The most significant stat here is how Clark County compares to the other 15 Ohio counties won by Gore in 2000. Kerry won every Gore county in Ohio except Clark. He even increased Gore's winning margin in 12 of the 16...The Guardian's [Ian] Katz was quoted as saying it would be "self-aggrandizing" to claim Operation Clark County affected the election. Don't be so modest, Ian.

Posted by: mhw || 11/05/2004 12:21:37 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1 

And there's more!

After Operation Clark County, I suggest Operation Rock the Voter - well-meaning Guardian readers volunteer to visit America, and are assigned a single Bush voter, who they then shake violently and slap around a bit, and point at any given 5 second video clip of Bush and scream, "Look! He's a fucking moron! Can't you see that? Everyone else on the bloody planet can, what the hell is wrong with you?". Followed by some more violent shaking. -- Guardian letters

[via Tim Blair]

Posted by: Old Grouch || 11/05/2004 17:44 Comments || Top||


Students Won't Leave Until GOP Answers
BOULDER, Colo. — About 85 students remained holed up inside the library at Boulder High School early Friday, saying they're concerned about the direction the country is headed and refusing to leave until they've met with leaders from the Republican Party. Some of the students involved in the protest, organized after President Bush won re-election to a second term on Tuesday, placed calls to Republican politicians and left messages. "We want them to reassure us that our fears are misguided and that the government is doing everything in its power to prevent our futures from being destroyed," said senior Brian Martens.
The students said they were not protesting this week's election, but said they were worried about the huge national debt run up during the first four years of the Bush administration, along with military recruitment in schools and other issues.
Gee, what are the odds some liberal teacher put them up to this?
The students, who brought sleeping bags and enough food to last through the weekend if needed, said they wanted to talk to representatives of GOP Gov. Bill Owens and 4th District Rep. Marilyn Musgrave, R-Fort Morgan, who sponsored the failed constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.
Don't do it, you'll only encourage others to copy them.
Students began their protest on Thursday. Boulder police verified with school security officials that the students were allowed to stay overnight and into Friday. After Friday, they would be escorted to Canada... Representatives of 2nd District Rep. Mark Udall, D-Eldorado Springs, and U.S. Senator-elect Ken Salazar, D-Denver, are expected to visit them sometime during the day.
Note the party of those visiting.
For all the whining and threats from the left, this is the best they can do? Less than a hundred kids, most of whom are probably not old enough to vote?
Posted by: IG-88 || 11/05/2004 10:58:36 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Time to call in the F16s.
Posted by: BH || 11/05/2004 11:50 Comments || Top||

#2  About 85 students remained holed up inside the library at Boulder High School early Friday, saying they’re concerned about the direction the country is headed and refusing to leave until they’ve met with leaders from the Republican Party.

Leave them there for as long as they're willing to stay, until they grow up.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/05/2004 12:00 Comments || Top||

#3  I'll go, just as I finish lacing up my jackboots...
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/05/2004 12:03 Comments || Top||

#4  I read this,and all I can think of is the old comment by drill instructor/blackhat/ranger instructor - "You - drop - knock out push-ups until I get tired".

Key kiddies, we have FOUR MORE YEARS to play with - how much stamina do you pukes have???????

Heh, heh, heh ........
Posted by: Lone Ranger || 11/05/2004 12:05 Comments || Top||

#5  You have a say--it's called a VOTE. If you're too young to vote, then suck it up and wait. If you did vote and didn't get your way, that's just too damn bad. Better luck next time.

Meeting with these clowns would be pandering to even more idiots who think they can circumvent the ballot box with their stupid hijinx. Don't do it!
Posted by: Dar || 11/05/2004 12:09 Comments || Top||

#6  Would'ya like to be a moonbat
Reading Noam Chomsky and all that
Wearing tinfoil under your hat
Or would you rather have a brain?


(Apologies to Bing Crosby.)
Posted by: Mike || 11/05/2004 12:19 Comments || Top||

#7  It's nothing a few disorderly conduct and trespassing tickets won't help.
Posted by: Tom || 11/05/2004 12:21 Comments || Top||

#8  BAR and Tom-Or a sudden shutoff of heat (November in Colorado) and mysteriously locked doors.
Posted by: Jules 187 || 11/05/2004 12:30 Comments || Top||

#9  Boulder High teacher James Vacca expressed pride in the students for staging the protest."In an age where narcissistic college students riot in an inarticulate drunken stupor, you have students here at Boulder High School, principled, thoughtful and yet scared of four more years of pre-emptive war, the Patriot Act and an increase in militarism at school through the No Child Left Behind Act," he said.

Could we have found our "mastermind", perhaps?
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/05/2004 12:42 Comments || Top||

#10  "We want them to reassure us that our fears are misguided and that the government is doing everything in its power to prevent our futures from being destroyed," said senior Brian Martens.
Here's a way to make sure you don't destroy your future, don't take over a high school and get arrested as a youth.

They definitely strafed the wrong high school.
Posted by: Tibor || 11/05/2004 13:05 Comments || Top||

#11  Let's see what Google has to say about James:
Jim Vacca, Special Education Representative, Language Arts Teacher at Boulder High. He holds a master's degree in education from the University of Northern Colorado and a master's of divinity from Seattle University. He currently teaches The Bible As Literature at Boulder High. And he wrote this in one of the local rags:
The Geneva Accord is a viable pathway to Middle East peace. Originally brokered by Yossi Beilin, the former Minister of Justice for Israel and Yasser Abed Rabbo, former Minister of Information for the Palestinian Authority, the accord champions a workable two-state solution by returning Israel to its pre-1967 borders and establishing an international fund for re-settling Palestinian refugees in a new Palestinian state and providing compensation to Israelis who fled persecution in Arab lands. This accord shatters the myth that both sides are unwilling and unable to forge a common peace.

This peace process has stagnated under the failed leadership of Ariel Sharon and George Bush. Yet as we approach the national election cycle there is renewed hope and passion that the agenda of the American people will be prioritized by our emerging political leaders ... and make no mistake, we want peace in the Middle East! The race to the White House must not ignore the Geneva Accord.
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I approach this issue as a member of Tikkun, a grass-roots community that supports the Geneva Accord and a progressive middle path that is both pro-Israel and pro-Palestine. It seeks reconciliation as a pathway to security and peace. Tikkun's broader vision of transformation is reminiscent of Martin Luther King's struggle for freedom and dignity, a struggle inspired not only by a plan but a dream. The Geneva Accord is a workable plan paving the way to a dream of peace that can be realized.


Sounds like a mastermind to me.
Posted by: Steve || 11/05/2004 13:15 Comments || Top||

#12  "Hey, kids! We in the republican party would just like to let you know that, first of all, you are dupes. But the good news is that none of you will be drafted. Because the republicans won, the liberal democratic effort to draft you, put you in the army, and send you overseas to DIE has been defeated! And you can THANK George Bush and the republican party for standing up AGAINST the draft, no matter how much the democratic party lied to you about it. While you're at it, you can also THANK George Bush and the republican party for fighting terrorists OVER THERE, in other countries, rather than waiting until they came over HERE to KILL YOU IN YOUR BEDS, like the democratic party was willing to LET HAPPEN. As far as EVERYTHING ELSE, the economy is really coming together, so there will be good jobs for you in the future, and there is NO REASON to make your life harder by raising your taxes, like the democrats are always trying to do. So, little dupes, the choice is yours. Do you want to be someone else's TOOL, to be USED while your USERS HIDE behind you, or do you want to just GO HOME and live happily ever after with the republicans? Whichever you choose, just thought I'd remind you that there are those very close to you who wish to twist your minds and control your lives, and you should think very hard before you let them do it again. Have a nice day."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/05/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#13  "Dude, like, grandpa said that this was the way he scored with hippie chicks back when grandma had only one chin! He was protesting World War Eleven or something like that...."
Posted by: Desert Blondie || 11/05/2004 13:26 Comments || Top||

#14  Two comments (1) I'm fairly certain the ginned up draft fears are what's behind this idiocy. Thanks Kerry and company for screwing with the heads of our children (2) At least they are in the library. The principle should slip a reading list and homework assignments under the door.
Posted by: RJ Schwarz || 11/05/2004 13:26 Comments || Top||

#15  I think this warrants an action reminiscent of Ghengis Kahn.
Posted by: spiffo || 11/05/2004 13:35 Comments || Top||

#16  spiffo : That's Jen-Jess Khan!
Posted by: BigEd || 11/05/2004 13:36 Comments || Top||

#17  You know the enemy is on the ropes when they start sending the old men and children out to fight.
Posted by: Don || 11/05/2004 14:01 Comments || Top||

#18  It's nothing a few disorderly conduct and trespassing tickets won't help.

Tickets? Hell no. Let's dig up a felony to get them on. Let's see what kind of colleges they can get into with a felony conviction on their records.

I'm sick of the mindless grandstanding and senseless self-aggrandizement. It's time some of these narcissists are pointedly shown how little society thinks of them and their stupid stunts.

And before someone bleats about it: I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to speak. I'm saying they shouldn't be allowed to get away with breaking the goddamned law.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/05/2004 14:06 Comments || Top||

#19  Just stop pizza delivery and these tool-fools will be out within a few hours. Of course, they'll be treated as heroes by their equally deluded peers - despite their eventual utter capitualtion. Pathetic.

I'm beginning to think that there should be some sort of punishment devised, the definition formed into a legal statute, to apply to "teachers" who put such moonbat stupidity into the heads of defenseless children who eagerly emulate and seek to please them as role models. There is malfesance / misfeasance for others who hold positions of public responsibility, particularly political and fiduciary positions... This situation is obviously a classic case of extreme misinformation - most likely intentional... they've been lied to and no accepted authority figure felt the need to correct their idiotic assumptions and beliefs. Intent. Corrupt and malicious.
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 14:11 Comments || Top||

#20  "I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to speak. I'm saying they shouldn't be allowed to get away with breaking the goddamned law."

Yeah, but it seems to me the extrajudicial punishment of nationwide ridicule-- hoots and catcalls from coast to coast-- oughtta be far more effective than anything the legal system in Boulder, Colorado is gonna dish out.

I say just let them continue what they're doing: discrediting the Democratic Party's message by taking that message to its illogical, absurd extreme.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/05/2004 14:18 Comments || Top||

#21  Bring in the SWAT teams, fire in tear gas and drag them out. Or better yet, brick up the doors and windows and build a new library.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 11/05/2004 14:30 Comments || Top||

#22 
Yeah, but it seems to me the extrajudicial punishment of nationwide ridicule-- hoots and catcalls from coast to coast-- oughtta be far more effective than anything the legal system in Boulder, Colorado is gonna dish out.


Nope. If they get enough attention they'll be the heroes of the loony left.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/05/2004 14:35 Comments || Top||

#23  Hell, I'm an official GOP Team Leader, will that do? "OK kids I think you should stay here for at least 4 more years. We will send in food and protect you from the cruel outside world."
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 11/05/2004 14:46 Comments || Top||

#24  I'm sure that the Boulder High School administration feels they can stay as long as they don't do anything radical like pray.
Posted by: RWV || 11/05/2004 15:07 Comments || Top||

#25  "I approach this issue as a member of Tikkun," writes Mr. Vacca.

Tikkun is the group started by Hillary Clinton's onetime "spiritual adviser," Rabbi Michael Lerner. Rabbi Lerner is a retro-60s religious Marxist* of the same style as the current Archbishop of Cantebury.

(*It's arguable that Marxism itself is a religion, but I use this terminology descriptively, to reflect that fact that Rabbi Lerner is the Reform Jewish version of those "liberation theology" priests we had back in the 1970s. (If you went to Ursuline H.S. and had Father Venglarik for a teacher, you'll know what I mean.))
Posted by: Mike || 11/05/2004 15:13 Comments || Top||

#26  ..but it seems to me the extrajudicial punishment of nationwide ridicule-- hoots and catcalls from coast to coast-- oughtta be far more effective than anything the legal system in Boulder, Colorado is gonna dish out.

Once upon a time, maybe. But kids nowadays rarely ever feel genuine shame. A lot of them typically end up feeling "dissed", and y'all know what the likely ramifications are of that.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/05/2004 16:15 Comments || Top||

#27  #5 You have a say--it's called a VOTE. If you're too young to vote, then suck it up and wait. If you did vote and didn't get your way, that's just too damn bad. Better luck next time.

That or move to San Francisco if your not happy
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 11/05/2004 16:29 Comments || Top||

#28  Jesus! We are looking at time-out city here. Yes, I'm talking a referral and an in school suspension. This is pretty bad.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 17:14 Comments || Top||

#29  Fox sez they ended their "vigil" this morning. So much for holding out 'til the GOP talks to them. It was nothing more than a slumber party.

Another fine example of the dedication, motivation, and tenacity of the MTV "Rock the Vote" kids who were supposed to turn out in record numbers for Kerry.
Posted by: Dar || 11/05/2004 18:05 Comments || Top||

#30  I'll bet after they got laid, the male "protesters" got the munchies - and folded, heh.
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 18:07 Comments || Top||

#31  These protesters are at least in a place where they can learn as in 'books' Leave them in there at least they are not out on the street smashing car windows with Bush stickers.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 18:42 Comments || Top||

#32  Or we could just ignore them... until the stink gets to be a little much, anyway. I'm wondering, though, about the ringleader's comment:

"...an increase in militarism at school through the No Child Left Behind Act."

What the hell is he on? Is it a slap against HS ROTC or something? I don't recall hearing about any such thing in the NCLBA.
Posted by: eLarson || 11/05/2004 19:53 Comments || Top||

#33  hmmmmm - I like the no heat idea, I'd take it further - shut off any water, padlock bathrooms, tell that defecating in the library is a felony and the crap'll be DNA- linked to whoever did it...sounds like a winner. Make them finger the teacher and FIRE his ass
Posted by: Frank G || 11/05/2004 20:07 Comments || Top||

#34  Read book, get brain.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2004 20:16 Comments || Top||

#35  Ed, these kids are only following in their parents footsteps :)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 20:56 Comments || Top||

#36  We are looking at time-out city here. Yes, I'm talking a referral and an in school suspension. This is pretty bad.

Where's Dean Wormer when you need him?
Posted by: Pappy || 11/05/2004 22:41 Comments || Top||


Kerry Laments: 'I Can't Believe I'm Losing to This Idiot'
The November 15 issue "How He Did It" (on newsstands Thursday, November 4) includes an exclusive behind-the-scenes account of the entire presidential campaign reported by a separate Newsweek Special Project team that worked for more than a year on the extraordinary campaign. Highlights from the report:
--Are at the link, can we go back to the WOT, please?--
Posted by: dennisw || 11/05/2004 9:19:21 AM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm getting a copy of this one. And there Senator was your problem. You failed to respect your opponent. It may not have occured to you that many didn't like your trashing of the President (whether by you or your supporters) which in turn was an attack on our troops. That we may like to run things our own way and we like lower taxes and less government. That character and values do matter of which you Senator are lacking. That we don't believe what the big city newspapers tell us and your other supporters in the MSM.
It may be almost impossible for you to come to grips with this because I truly believe you don't have a clue.
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 11/05/2004 10:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Kerry's attitude is typical of the liberal 'elite'. They think that we are all stupid because we will not bow to their pronouncements. The canard that we "do not think for ourselves" really means that we will not let our betters in the MSM and the universities manipulate us and tell us what to think.

I have heard many calls for being gracious winners and returning to civility. I will consider it when the LLL realizes that they have to deal with opposing arguments on their merits. Until that happens, we should take no prisoners.
Posted by: SR71 || 11/05/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||

#3  If you want to see this attitude in spades, check out Jane Smiley's article in Slate today link. Wretchard administers a bit of a slap-down to her, pretty much as Lileks does to the Noo Yawkuhs that the NYT interviewed yesterday.
Posted by: MW || 11/05/2004 12:25 Comments || Top||

#4  I have heard many calls for being gracious winners and returning to civility.

Ain't that just a knee-slapper? Everybody else needs to be gracious and civil, and the tactics and actions of bile-spewing, hate-mongering leftists doesn't even deserve a mention. Had the election turned out the other way around, it's beyond certainty that the likes of Kos, Atrios, Alterman, et al and their followers would be rubbing it in big time.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/05/2004 12:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Yes, Jawn. You did lose to the "idiot". Is it hard to now have a self image that says "I am a total pathetic loser" or do you just get used to it?
P.S.: I'll bet Taraaaaysa's really fun to be around these days, isn't she...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/05/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#6  John and Terayza :
From "The Sound of Music" :
So Long
Farewell
Auf Wiedersein
Adieu

Posted by: BigEd || 11/05/2004 13:30 Comments || Top||

#7  Taaaaryza can always buy him an Island, like Iceland or Malta.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 22:33 Comments || Top||


Wretchard Packs A Wallop
Wretchard, at one of my favorite sites, Belmont Club, takes an oh-so-polite chainsaw to Jane Smiley:

In this account, the bulk of Ms. Smiley's enemies consist of a single, undifferentiated mass of red staters with the bestial appetites and intelligence of retarded slugs. Unfortunately for the Democrats, they are led by diabolically clever manipulators -- "the big capitalists, who have no morals" -- who employ cant, superstition and lies to lead their dimwitted mob around for the purposes of rapine and coarse gratification. We are vouchsafed a glimpse of the 'good guys', the Progressives, the champions of the workers and consumers. These Progressives are somehow resistant to blandishments of the "big capitalists". Something -- superior intelligence or a finer moral fiber perhaps -- has made them insusceptible to ignorance and manipulation. And they alone stand in the way of the Darkness.


See, kids - that's how you call somebody a pretentious asshole and make it sound like a compliment....
Posted by: mojo || 11/05/2004 2:40:04 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  'Tis a beautiful sight.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 11/05/2004 8:47 Comments || Top||

#2  One slug, one vote. That's all I have to say about that.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/05/2004 9:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Here's Smiley on why Bush won:
Here is how ignorance works: First, they put the fear of God into you—if you don't believe in the literal word of the Bible, you will burn in hell. ... Next, they tell you that you are the best of a bad lot (humans, that is) and that as bad as you are, if you stick with them, you are among the chosen. ... Third, and most important, when life grows difficult or fearsome, they (politicians, preachers, pundits) encourage you to cling to your ignorance with even more fervor.

She's right. This is the reason Bush won: the mindset of people like this. Like her.

This describes a certain red-faced strain of Christianity, and I won't deny it's there. I used to rant about it all the time. I haven't seen it much since I moved from Missouri; Old Testament thunder doesn't get into the newspapers very often.

But intolerance, ignorance, and elitism ("if you stick with them, you are among the chosen") are now liberal hallmarks, not conservative ones. I've been writing a blog post on this topic, but the short version is that the intolerant, blue-nosed Christian scolds of my youth have been replaced by the Leftist Sisters of Our Lady of Perpetual Indignation, always eager to sniff out sin (racism, sexism, etc) wherever it might be lurking.

Bush's victory is a rejection of the intolerance of the Left. When the intolerance of the Right gets to be as bad, I'll go back to compaining about it.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 11/05/2004 10:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Many of us on this site ridicule the Europeans for "playing the dhimmi" in the face of Islamic parasitism, but at some point we are also going to have to put the smackdown on the asshats in our midst. The non-left tends to play with kid gloves for fear of being branded racist, fascist, hurtful, etc. This has got to STOP. We need to be more vocal in our criticism and our ridicule, both on the net and IRL.
Posted by: BH || 11/05/2004 10:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Angie Schultz:
Leftist Sisters of Our Lady of Perpetual Indignation
Beautiful!

Don't mind if I steal that, do you? ;-p
Posted by: Jereque Ebbavish9446 || 11/05/2004 11:31 Comments || Top||

#6  #5 is me. Don't know why I got one of the "interesting" names.

Still going to steal your description, Angie. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/05/2004 11:49 Comments || Top||

#7  "Leftist Sisters of Our Lady of Perpetual Indignation" Me too Angie. Bitter fruits

I pray daily, happy to. But I don't ask anybody to hold my hand and join in, UTMWT.
Posted by: Lucky || 11/05/2004 14:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Don't mind if I steal that, do you?

Be my guest. I probably stole it from someone else.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 11/05/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||


How the Left Became Such Rabid Hate Puppies
WSJ columnist Hennenger comes up with some very interesting point in this column

Slightly EFL and fair use


This didn't happen last Tuesday. The color-coding of the 2004 election began around 1965 in the politics of the Vietnam era. The Democratic Party today is the product of a generational shift that began in those years.

The formative years of the northern wing of the Democratic Old Guard go back to World War II. It included political figures like Tip O'Neill, Pat Moynihan and Lane Kirkland. It was men such as these whose experiences, both political and personal, informed and shaped the Democrats before the mid-'60s.

Over time the party passed into the hands of a generation, now in their 50s and early 60s, whose broad view of America and its politics was formed as young men and women opposing the Vietnam War. That would include the party's current leading lights--John Kerry, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi. And its most influential strategists, such as Bob Shrum, Mary Beth Cahill and James Carville. The old industrial unions, whose members went over to Ronald Reagan, gave way to the more dependable public-employee unions run by John Sweeney and Gerald McEntee.

These Baby Boomers--the generation of John Kerry, Al Gore and Bill and Hillary Clinton--transformed the world view of the Democrats, on everything from foreign policy to cultural issues. This new ethos--instinctively oppositional, aggressively secular--sank its roots deep on the East and West coasts, but it never really spread into the rest of the country, then or now.

Early on, the military became a focus. Democrats belonging to the World War II generation believed that one "served." There was a nonpartisan pact of reverence for the services. After Vietnam, Democratic partisans worked hard, and successfully, to eradicate ROTC from elite, coastal campuses and to adopt an ethos that no longer revered the services, but held them suspect of doing harm. Bill Clinton's relations with the military were strained. John Kerry tried to use his service biography to erase the Vietnam-era legacy of Democratic opposition to things military. It didn't work.

Expressed emotion matters greatly for this generation. The most notable phenomenon of the 2004 election was widespread liberal "hatred" of George Bush. Many wondered what sleeping volcano brought this lava to the surface. It came from the style of protest politics born in the 1960s. A famous liberal political phrase then was "the personal is political." Letting oneself become emotionally unhinged during a protest, as at Columbia, Harvard and Berkeley, became a litmus of authenticity. It became the norm, and it still is. But again, only for people who scream themselves blue.

Another phrase heard often in the campaign just ended was, "I'm frightened." Admiration for childlike fears in politics received approval in 1970 from Charles Reich's bestseller "The Greening of America," a paean to youth and "a new and liberated individual." Reich's book, by the way, also popularized the notion then that something called the "Corporate State" was blotting out the Aquarian sunshine. This is the mindset that just produced the Democrats' weird obsession with "Halliburton," as if anyone would care beyond the people who were long ago baptized into the blue faith.

But the politics of the Vietnam generation wasn't just about Vietnam. It was about changing everything, most notably the culture. This generation really opened up the culture. The old pre-Vietnam strictures on behavior and comportment--Tip O'Neill's old Boston Catholic world of Mass on Sunday and at least a working if not functioning knowledge of the Baltimore catechism--got hammered down till the moral landscape became flat and fast. Now you can drive anything at all into theaters, music or movies. This post-Vietnam culture of non-restraint, now almost 40 years old, produced Whoopi Goldberg's double-entendre jokes about George Bush's name at Radio City Music Hall, the Massachusetts Supreme Court's sudden decision on gay marriage, and hard-to-defend support for partial-birth abortion.

George Bush, age 58, was a reproach. He personifies everything they have fought since they drove LBJ and Richard Nixon out of politics. And this week they are trying to discover why most of the people who live between the Hudson River and Hollywood Freeway don't agree with them. Expect documentaries soon about Christian evangelicals on the Discovery Channel.

There is no hope that the Vietnam generation braintrust who just lost this election will ever understand Red America. Until someone in the party recognizes this, the tides of demography will inexorably erode the blue islands that remain on the map.
Posted by: badanov || 11/05/2004 7:46:23 AM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The tides of demography will inexorably erode the blue islands that remain on the map."
Let's hope not, and let's vote not.
Posted by: domingo || 11/05/2004 8:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Doh!
Stop, rewind, reverse that, play.
My dyslexia kicking in.
Posted by: domingo || 11/05/2004 8:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Living near water has a profound neurological effect. The brain atrophies and the spine soften in to a jelly. This is leftosis maximus, curable only with a concentrated dose of reality generally administrated by being the victim of an physical attack from one of the down trodden masses. Unfortunately the cure rate is not one hundred percent.
Posted by: Old Fogey || 11/05/2004 8:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Once again, the Dems will argue amongst themselves: did they lose because they were too fanatical in their opposition? Or did they lose because they weren't fanatical enough? I suspect that just as they did in 2000 and again in 2002, the latter group will win that argument; and the Dems will drift even farther away from the majority of Americans.

Frankly, I don't see much hope for the Democrats until this Vietnam-inspired generation of "Boomer Bolsheviks" passes into history. Which is why I'm no longer a Democrat.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/05/2004 9:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Dont forget the Democratic obsession with 'Me! Me! Me!' - their vast selfishness.

Oh they say they want to help the poor and minorities but all their programs are aimed at helping them stay beholden to the state (on welfare / disability / etc....) and not really 'helping' them advance in life.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/05/2004 9:24 Comments || Top||

#6  It will not pass away. There is a new generation of them who can be found all over the internet. "Bushhitler" wasn't coined by the 60 somethings. It was coined by their kids and grandkids. Wealthy spoiled surban and urban rich kids who are self selected voices of the people.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/05/2004 9:46 Comments || Top||

#7  My guess is the Dems will have their act together in 2008. The Republicans will not have an incumbant, and Hillary will be their standardbearer after her term is up in 2006 and she starts to form her exploritory committee.

She has been pretty careful with her voting record and comments as a Senator. I think she'll see the anger can easily turn destructive and try to channel it. Bill's greatest project.

The Republicans should not be scared, but they also shouldn't be too quick to write off the Democrats too quickly.

If I'm wrong and they do go angry in 2008 I suspect they won't be around in 2012, they'll fracture.
Posted by: RJ Schwarz || 11/05/2004 9:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Frankly, the problem is the inundation of left wing media sources in the major metropolitan areas. It is amazing how many New Yorkers are simply unaware of anything other than the tripe spewed by the big three broadcast networks and CNN. Add the NY Times in and the left wing has almost a clean sweep. For you who live in more rural areas you may not perceive how difficult the problem is. People are attuned to getting their information from their usual 'trusted' sources. The takeover of those sources has been subtly underway for a very long time and the bias has crept in through non-reporting of alternative news and views so that major blind spots have developed. When the majority of your news sources all lean the same way those blind spots become a permanent feature of your awareness.

The ongoing ability of weblogs, talk radio, moderate networks (such as Fox), newspapers (such as the New York Post and the New York Sun) to fact check them in the future is imperative to rewinning or breaching these redoubts of disinformation.

Do not make the mistake of thinking that this election is the end. We cannot rest on our laurels. We will face a much harder, perhaps insurmountable, battle in 2008 unless we can put the kibosh on the blatant propagandizing of the media and provide either an impetus for people to change their sources of information or devise a means to recapture the existing sources.

I am heartened by the facts that Fox(cable) and the New York Post are increasing their penetrations of the NY market, but there is still a long long way to go in that regard. Another potential plus is that Fox(broadcast) in NY has hired a well known and respected anchorman in Ernie Anastis (formerly of CBS). If the Fox broadcast network (Ch 5) can capture more of the prime time news audience, fill in some of the void of the blind spots and stress their more moderate viewpoints that will help.

But above all the bloggers must keep their eyes open for both the evidence of bias that so pervades the mainstream media and the good news that they are not reporting, and channel that evidence to the alternate outlets including talk radio. The importance of this civic duty cannot be overstated.

Talk radio is an essential ingredient in this battle as the initial dissemination point, if the truth goes out on broadcast it is more likely to be picked up by other outlets. Fortuitiously, we hold a siginificant lead in the talk radio market.

This election could and would have gone much differently without you all.

Thank you from one in the trenches.
Posted by: DanNY || 11/05/2004 10:21 Comments || Top||

#9  "It is amazing how many New Yorkers are simply unaware of anything other than the tripe spewed by the big three broadcast networks and CNN."

It isn't just NYers; it's anyone whose sole source of news is their daily big-city paper, the broadcast networks or CNN. Ever try to carry on a meaningful conversation about current events with anyone who doesn't read blogs? It's impossible: they simply don't know anything.

"But above all the bloggers must keep their eyes open for both the evidence of bias that so pervades the mainstream media and the good news that they are not reporting, and channel that evidence to the alternate outlets including talk radio. The importance of this civic duty cannot be overstated."

I hope we've seen only the start of an explosion in blogging that will, before the next election comes around, end up completely stripping the MSM of its accustomed monopoly on selecting what news we see and telling us what to think about that news.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/05/2004 10:38 Comments || Top||

#10  "It isn't just NYers; it's anyone whose sole source of news is their daily big-city paper, the broadcast networks or CNN."

True, but I was restricting myself to my own immediate experience and trying hard not to overreach.

Amen to that last part
Posted by: DanNY || 11/05/2004 10:50 Comments || Top||

#11  CF, It's what I call "soft bigotry" a term the president used during the RNC convention that very few picked up on. Basically means dems tell the poor, uneducated, and supposedly disenfranchised - "here, let me help you, give you more gov't cheeze, keep you on the dole because we know best, because you are too stupid, weak, and have been so discriminated against that you cannot think for youself." Essentially the reason most blacks have been on the dem plantation for the past 30 yrs.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/05/2004 11:02 Comments || Top||

#12  Some sociologists have theorized that since they couldn't live up to their greatest generation parents, they had to tear everything down.

They hate their fathers, and some also hate their mothers.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/05/2004 12:53 Comments || Top||

#13  By understanding the enemy and yourself, you can engage in a hundred battles without ever being in danger.
If you understand yourself without understanding your enemy, your chancing of winning are 50-50.
If you understand neither the enemy nor yourself, you will always lose.
- Sun Tzu, The Art of War, circa 400 BC

I don't think we have much to fear, though we must remain vigilant, that the lefties will be able to get their act together as long as they continue to lie not only about their opponents, but lie about themselves and believe it.
Posted by: Don || 11/05/2004 12:58 Comments || Top||

#14  Fewer hate puppies--More sweater puppies!
Posted by: Dar || 11/05/2004 15:02 Comments || Top||

#15  Dar - LOL!

Re: sweater puppies, limit 2 per customer, please! (NSFW, Sorry Dar, lol!)
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 15:08 Comments || Top||

#16  I commented a few days ago that this would be the last US prez election the MSM could steal. The reason is not so much that anyone with a modem can opionate and spin the news, its more that the economics of big media is shifting. They depend on ad revenue and the activities that generate the revenue such as classifieds are moving online. In the last week, there was a significant example here in OZ. Our largest grocer says its going to stop producing those glossy newspaper inserts that list the specials of the week.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/05/2004 15:48 Comments || Top||

#17  From everything I have seen so far, stories, talking heads, et al, I'm not sure that the Dhimmigogues "get it" at all. Most saying they "shouldn't point fingers at each other" - the "no one's at fault except those stupid voters" assessment. The primary "analysis" I've seen from them is not that they're out of step, not in the least, it's "how do we sell our agenda better" and how can we improve our turnout - as if a record vote isn't sufficient proof that they, actually, did very well in motivating both constituencies.

"Nope. Nuttin' wrong with us... we just didn't screech loud enough to prove our BusHitler and cultural superiority talking points."

The 2006 Congressional cycle might clarify things for them, but I wouldn't bank on it. I would dearly love to see them keep this up and become even further diminished in strength - i.e. everywhere that moonbattery isn't the daily norm.
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#18  The current wisdom on the left side seems to be that Bush won on the purely domestic god-guns-gays trio of issues. They immediately equate "moral values" with "evangelical Christian doctrine" (which conveniently ignores the moral issue of whether somebody betrays his buddies by portraying them as war criminals). No consideration of national security. No consideration of national sovereignty (except that it's probably not a good thing). No worries about being an anti-war party in time of war. Lots of talk about selling themselves to the rubes.

Read the discussions at Matthew Yglesias's blog. (He says he's part of the "reality-based community.") Poster after poster says "I voted for Bush. Here's why. Here's what you can do to get my vote next time." All rejected.

I wanted a non-moonbat opposition back, hoped this election would accomplish that, but if hope may spring eternal, it seems that self-deception does, too. Sigh.
Posted by: Old Grouch || 11/05/2004 18:41 Comments || Top||

#19  Not al New Yorkers are arch-radical fruitcakes ; )
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 18:43 Comments || Top||

#20  Fisking Practice Lesson.
Find the Eric Alterman recent article (5 points) and comment (up to 75 points). It's so easy to fisk that y'all will simply have to find your own additional articles if you need more points.
Posted by: dorf || 11/05/2004 19:56 Comments || Top||

#21  The MSM and other leftist outlets since 11/2 have all indicated they've learned nothing from their losses so far.
Posted by: Ebbavith Angang9747 || 11/05/2004 20:21 Comments || Top||


Astronaut votes from space
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) - With a quick computer key stroke, space station astronaut Leroy Chiao became the first American to vote for president from space, casting an encrypted ballot via e-mail and urging fellow countrymen to go to the polls Tuesday. "It was just a small thing for me, but it is important symbolically to show that every vote does count," Chiao said from the international space station a few hours after the polls opened 360 kilometres below.

Chiao, 44, sent in his ballot Sunday night - "Halloween night and maybe that's kind of appropriate."

"I thought long and hard about it over the weekend, made my final decision and Sunday night went ahead and cast the ballot and pushed the send button," he said in an interview with The Associated Press. "It was a neat moment."

His ballot travelled via a secure e-mail connection to Mission Control in Houston, which forwarded it to the Galveston County clerk's office in Texas, where Chiao normally resides. He was living in Russia before his launch three weeks ago from Kazakhstan, training for this six-month space station mission.

Only one other American has voted before from space: astronaut David Wolf aboard Russia's Mir space station in 1997, thanks to a state law signed that year by Texas' then-governor - President George W. Bush. The 1997 ballot
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 3:40:52 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm hoping one day for there to be congressional districts on the Moon and Mars.

"The Chair now recognizes the gentleman from Noctis Labrynthus..."
Posted by: N guard || 11/05/2004 9:08 Comments || Top||

#2  ROFL

I wholeheartedly agree!
Posted by: DanNY || 11/05/2004 10:45 Comments || Top||

#3  MARS... NEEDS... BALLOTS!
Posted by: Dar || 11/05/2004 11:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Mars will be 12 more Red States.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 12:29 Comments || Top||

#5  No!

Mars! The Red State! (with 2 senators and 48 reps)
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 12:30 Comments || Top||


Keyes Blames Media, GOP for Loss in Ill.
And on a lighter note ...
CHICAGO -- Alan Keyes blamed the media and fellow Republicans on Thursday for his lopsided loss to Democrat Barack Obama in the U.S. Senate race in Illinois. Keyes also said he did not congratulate Obama after the race was called, a tradition among politicians, because doing so would have been a "false gesture" because he believes Obama's views on issues like abortion are wicked.
Calling your opponent, the press, and the voters who disagree with you "evil" is a sure-fire way to get 20% of the vote in any election.
"I'm supposed to make a call that represents the congratulations toward the triumph of that which I believe ultimately stands for and will stand for a culture evil enough to destroy the very soul and heart of my country," Keyes said. "I can't do this, and I will not make a false gesture."
Oh, shut up and go away.
The former diplomat and two-time presidential candidate, who lost to Obama by 43 percentage points Tuesday, gave his first post-election interview Thursday to a Christian talk show host. He said he was disappointed in what he called the number of "Republicans in name only" in Illinois. An Associated Press exit poll showed that four in 10 Republicans voted for Obama, a liberal state senator from Chicago. "I had counted on the fact that Republicans would come back home on Election Day rather than vote a socialist into office who stands against everything they profess to believe as Republicans," Keyes said.
I don't know the name for a right-wing equivalent of a moonbat, but this guy is one of them.
Keyes noted that 1.3 million people voted for him. But Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs pointed out that 70 percent of the vote went to Obama, more than 3.4 million votes.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2004 12:30:06 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Calling your opponent, the press, and the voters who disagree with you "evil" is a sure-fire way to get 20% of the vote in any election.

The exceptions to this are Democrats.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/05/2004 1:00 Comments || Top||

#2  Keyes needs to go into teaching. He is too freaking smart and honest to be a good politican.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/05/2004 1:42 Comments || Top||

#3  To think I actually voted for this guy in the 2000 primaryn in WI. I did like his tax policy but on a lot of things this guy is as off the wall as a San Francisco moonbat. Keep an eye on Obama, he is one of the few rising stars the Dims have o the national scene
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 11/05/2004 6:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Keyes was right to call Hiliary a carpet bagger 4 years ago. Perhaps he should look in the mirror.
Posted by: Douglas De Bono || 11/05/2004 8:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Keyes is right about the Republican party in Illinois, though. Essentially there's just one big, corrupt party in Illinois (John Kass of the Tribune calls it "the Combine"). A pox on the whole lot of them.
Posted by: Spot || 11/05/2004 9:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Well at least Keyes beat the over/under: he got more than 20%.

As for Obama - lets see if he walks the walk of an old-time Democrat, goaing against Kennedy and the liberals at times, or if the Michael Moore Demcorat Party moral black hole pulls him in to its gravitational field and crushes the decency out of him.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/05/2004 9:18 Comments || Top||

#7  "The People have spoken. The bastards."

Once again, the voters have rejected The Superior Candidate because they are stupid, deluded, mind-controlled or fill-in-the-blank. Funny how often this seems to happen. One would think not getting any votes would be some sort of hint.

Posted by: SteveS || 11/05/2004 9:22 Comments || Top||

#8  Well thanks, Spot..
As an Illinios republican, who voted for Keyes ONLY to let the republican party know there are a few of us left!
Actually Kass was pretty funny on wed when he said "...political scientists therorize that angry brimestone and fire warnings of eternal damnation sometimes corospond to low voter response"
And the Illinois republican party is no longer corrupt, but rather a gutted vacant burned out crack house. The last republican Gov. Ryan will be sitting in the can, along with his beloved death row imates who he didn't let out by this time next year. His main "Piggy" has decided to squeal and turn states evidence.
Of course, the rest of the Chicago machine is in the hands of Mayor Daley, so it is squeaky clean now : )

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Posted by: Capsu78 || 11/05/2004 9:58 Comments || Top||

#9  Tell Keyes he can go shave now...somebody?!
Posted by: smn || 11/05/2004 22:06 Comments || Top||

#10  I knew, from the start, that Keyes was not going to win, and I think he knew also. Most of his supporters did. He IS intelligent and honest. However, he disappointed by not using his oratorical talents to raise the level of debate, give memorable civics lessons, and essentially provide fodder for conservative blogs.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/06/2004 5:26 Comments || Top||


Kerry: White House run hid true ambition
ScrappleFace
(2004-11-03) -- Sen. John Forbes Kerry, who was also a presidential candidate until recently, today finally explained "the plan" to which he often referred during his White House bid.

"You probably thought my plan involved sitting in the Oval Office," said Mr. Kerry, "But everything I have done this year was simply to lay the groundwork for my triumphal ascension to the post of Senate Minority Leader. Now that my coattails have carried Tom Daschle to defeat, I stand ready to lead the remainder of the senate Democrats with my progressive ideas."

A straw poll of Democrat senators shows that Mr. Kerry stands a good chance of garnering the position, since the party is looking for "fresh new faces."

"I've never met him personally," said one veteran U.S. Senator, "but it sounds like he has the personality to pick up where Sen. Daschle left off."
Posted by: Korora || 11/05/2004 12:09:07 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Southeast Asia
Maid to hang for killing employer in Malaysia
A 22-year-old Indonesian maid will hang in Malaysia for killing her employer after a spat over burnt curry. The High Court threw out her defence of insanity, saying that she knew exactly what she was doing three years ago when she attacked Soon Lay Chuan with a mortar pestle. Herlina Trisnawati was composed as the judge delivered his judgment, telling her there was only one punishment for murder, death by hanging. She can appeal the decision.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 1:58:03 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I don't know why this would be of interest to RBers, but as I have employed maids in Asia and have some understanding of their conditions, I'll comment. They are essentially indentured servants with extremely limited redress if they are abused. I don't know whether this one was, but I do know it's common.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/05/2004 2:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Women hang so gracefully, she may kick and buck only once before the calm!!
Posted by: smn || 11/05/2004 14:35 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Economy
U.S.Dollar Drops to Record Low
Nov. 5 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar tumbled to a record low against the euro after German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder suggested he will tolerate a stronger European currency, overshadowing a surge in U.S. job growth in October.

The euro's rise is ``not yet dramatic,'' Schroeder, leader of Europe's largest economy, told a press conference in Brussels. His remark followed European Central Bank President Jean Claude Trichet's failure yesterday to protest a four-week euro advance that helps offset the impact of higher oil prices.

The dollar, down 5 percent in the past month against the euro, initially jumped after the Labor Department said employers added 337,000 workers in October, after a gain of 139,000 a month earlier, fueling bets the Federal Reserve will raise its benchmark interest rate twice more this year.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 7:52:02 PM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  George Soros, please call your broker.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 11/05/2004 22:42 Comments || Top||

#2 

Is the question, how much lower will the USD sink or how much longer can E.U. nations export their products with the Euro currency being at these highs? (not record highs yet)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 22:59 Comments || Top||

#3  The Chicoms have to go even lower.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/05/2004 23:23 Comments || Top||


Shell, ChevronTexaco Are Accused of Fixing Gas Prices
Nov. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Shell Oil Co., ChevronTexaco Corp., and a unit of Saudi Aramco were sued by a group of gasoline dealers who claim the companies conspired to fix the price of fuel sold to about 20,000 service stations nationwide.

Four New York service stations filed a price-fixing suit on behalf of Shell and Texaco dealers. The station owners say the oil companies created two joint ventures, Equilon Enterprises and Motiva Enterprises, as a guise to overcharge dealers.

The lawsuit follows a June 1 ruling by a federal appeals court in California reinstating a similar case against the companies. That day, the U.S. General Accounting Office said a study indicated the joint ventures may have led to higher gas prices in some cities.

The suit in Manhattan federal court claims that in 1996, senior officers of Saudi Refining Inc., ``Shell and Texaco met and entered into an agreement to raise, fix, peg and stabilize the price of motor fuel sold to Shell and Texaco dealers.''

Karyn Leonardi-Cattolica, a spokeswoman for Houston-based Shell, the U.S. arm of the Royal Dutch/Shell group, Europe's second-largest oil and natural gas producer, declined to
comment.

A spokesman for San Ramon, California-based ChevronTexaco, the second-biggest U.S. oil company, didn't immediately return a call. Saudi Aramco is the world's biggest oil company.

The suit, which claims the conspiracy lasted from July 1998 until February 2002, doesn't specify the amount of damages the gas stations seek. Under antitrust law, damages may be tripled. The stations say Equilon and Motiva earned $33 billion annually.

Shares of ChevronTexaco rose $1.07, to $53.17, in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. Royal Dutch Petroleum Co., the Netherlands-based holder of 60 percent of Shell, rose 15 cents to 42.65 euros.

The case is Bedford Village Service Station v. Saudi Refining, 04-CV-8659, Southern District of New York
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 6:34:10 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: Subsaharan
Ivory Coast Soldiers, Rebels Clash
EFL:
Ivory Coast soldiers battled rebel forces as warplanes launched more bombing raids Friday, escalating hostilities a day after the government abandoned a cease-fire meant to end a civil war that killed thousands of people. A "skirmish" between government and rebel forces occurred near the town of Raviar, about 20 miles south of the rebel stronghold of Bouake, said U.N. military spokesman Philippe Moreux. "We are waiting to see how many combatants were involved and exactly what happened," Moreux said.
Take your time, Philippe. It's not like you are going to do anything.
There was no immediate word on casualties in the clashes, which came a day after government warplanes bombed Bouake, breaking the 2003 cease-fire. The jets ran five bombing runs there, destroying rebel headquarters and ruining other buildings, including homes and businesses. Rebels also said there were new air attacks Friday by government warplanes, saying two bombed the rebel-held town of Vavoua and strafed it with machine-gun fire. The target in the town west of Bouake was not clear, said rebel commander Yeo, who only gave his first name. Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie of France, Ivory Coast's former colonial ruler, called the situation "extremely worrying" and urged the United Nations to "give all lawful means" to help peacekeepers here restore order. Alliot-Marie, speaking to France Inter radio in Paris, confirmed Friday's bombing raids.
Having trouble with the UN, Michele? How distressing. And they've been so supportive of France in the past.
On Thursday, at least 39 people - including 14 civilians - were gravely injured in air attacks, said Antoine Foucher, spokesman for the French aid group Medecins Sans Frontieres, or Doctors Without Borders. The group said it was sure others were killed, but it could not say how many. The government also bombed another rebel-held city, Korhogo, on Thursday, New York-based Human Rights Watch said. Civilians were believed to be among the casualties, the group said. The U.N. Security Council, fearing a return to a full-scale war that would threaten its peace efforts across the region, called the attacks "grave" and "worrying" after an emergency meeting late Thursday. The world body suspended all humanitarian work in Ivory Coast after fighting resumed and condemned what it called "major" violations of the cease-fire.
What's next, a stern note of protest?

UPDATE: PARIS (Reuters) - Ivory Coast's army launched its first land attacks against a rebel-held zone in the north of the country, France Info radio said on Friday without giving details. "U.N. peacekeepers in Ivory Coast placed themselves to prevent an army column from moving north against the rebel-held zone," the radio said, quoting the French defense ministry.
United Nations Peacekeepers, a speedbump on the road to war.

Posted by: Steve || 11/05/2004 12:04:10 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There go the cocoa beans prices, up, up, up.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 18:17 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Economy
Payroll Jobs Surge +337,000 (Household +298,000)
It might have probably have been an even bigger victory for Bush if the election were next week. There was a big increase in construction jobs probably attributable to clean up after the Sept Hurricanes. The link is to the official BLS site.

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Nonfarm payroll employment increased by 337,000 in October, and the unemployment rate was about unchanged at 5.5 percent, the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor reported today. Construction employment rose sharply over the month, and several service-providing indus-
tries also added jobs.

Unemployment (Household Survey Data)

Both the number of unemployed persons, 8.1 million, and the unemploymentrate, 5.5 percent, were essentially unchanged from September to October. The jobless rate has held fairly steady thus far this year and remains below its most recent high of 6.3 percent in June 2003.

Posted by: mhw || 11/05/2004 9:27:42 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is huge, even with all the caveats. Remember that a decade ago, 5.5% unemployment was considered full employment.

When you look at the internals, it's teen and black unemployment that's driving the number. Adult unemployment for both sexes is about 4.8%, and white unemployment is 4.7%.

Teen unemployment can be affected by education and training, both Bush priorities. Black unemployment is a tougher nut to crack but the rate of 10.7% remains at near historic lows. In every month prior to September 1994 the rate was higher. It was only usually lower from mid 1996 through February 2002, the Clinton bubble [for all intents and purposes].
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/05/2004 10:08 Comments || Top||

#2  One more comment. These are non-farm jobs. I wonder how much the changes in agriculture in the South have affected the black employment situation in the last decade?
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/05/2004 10:09 Comments || Top||

#3  A lot fewer blacks are in farming in the South than there were a decade ago (also fewer whites).

There has been a big increase in employment of blacks in retail, finance, insurance, govt., etc. as these industries have desegragated.
Posted by: mhw || 11/05/2004 10:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Abolish the Minimum Wage laws and you'll make all sorts of jobs available to teens. Their first jobs. A step up to prosperity. Currently denied by law.

Such a move would probably have a huge impact to reduce black unemployment.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/05/2004 16:27 Comments || Top||

#5  How many farm jobs are lost or gained in NYC?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 21:01 Comments || Top||

#6  The same thing happened in 1992, except that since Bush lost, the media headlines said something like "Clinton's victory spurs consumer confidence; hiring up."
Really. They actually had an economic report just after the election and gave credit to Clinton.
Posted by: jackal || 11/05/2004 21:04 Comments || Top||


Union Pacific Trains Handling Peak Holiday Shipping
Union Pacific is doing its part to ensure the nation's peak holiday shipping season meets with Santa's expectations. North America's largest railroad is operating on demand at the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, and has been satisfying demand since May of this year. To illustrate the volume of port containers moving on Union Pacific, five intermodal trains would be required to handle the arrival of a vessel carrying 2,250 40-foot containers. It is the dock operator's responsibility to unload and transfer containers to waiting trains -- and the railroad's responsibility to ensure cars, locomotives and crews are in place. Most containers arriving at the ports that are not processed on the dock are driven to Union Pacific's ICTF terminal. At ICTF, trains have been running on demand since Labor Day.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 5:58:40 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Congrats to the UP. This was a close run thing.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/05/2004 9:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Mark you going long on the transportation sector?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 9:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Boy, I hope UP has finally ironed out their gridlock. UPS and some other major shippers have been getting very irate with the delays caused by increased traffic and moving some shipments back to trucks.

I posted some months ago about the increased hiring railroads have been doing to meet demand and replace upcoming retirees. UP is also ordering 315 new locomotives to upgrade their fleet.
Posted by: Dar || 11/05/2004 11:24 Comments || Top||

#4  If UP wants to do something about their traffic problem (I will assume you mean the old SP Sunset Route), they need to do something about Englewood Yard in Houston, and double track as much of the Sunset Route as possible (preferably all or most of it, like SF's LA/CHI "racetrack").
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/05/2004 15:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Ship. You bring up a very good point I did not even think off until you mentioned it. Maybe rail companies (stocks) would be the way to go since the airlines & trucking are thrown into the Transportation Index. Very good point Ship...keep them coming! ;)

Need a lift?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 18:58 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Hollywood elites in severe depression
Sherry Lansing, the soon-to-be-retired Paramount studio honcho and friend of Sen. John Kerry, is said to be "depressed."

Actress Sharon Stone, who stumped for Mr. Kerry in Wisconsin, reportedly was "traveling" yesterday. It wasn't clear whether the "Basic Instinct" star had fled the country, as she had hinted that she might do if the Democratic nominee lost.

There were tears and tribulations. Long sighs and short tempers. Shock and bawl.

For a rich and powerful demographic used to getting its way, Hollywood was downbeat yesterday as President Bush -- more heinous than a mid-February release date to so many celebrities and other bold-faced names -- made his gracious victory speech.

Not only entertainers were said to be dispirited. The literary crowd in New York was crying into its Evian.

"Sure, I feel terrible," said New Yorker editor David Remnick, whose published endorsement of Mr. Kerry was a first for the magazine. "There are a lot of long faces today."
And "Fahrenheit 9/11" propagandist Michael Moore's Web site actually went silent. lol

That's the same Mr. Moore who only a couple of weeks ago had paused in his anti-Bush road trip to opine: "I have a feeling that slackers are going to rise up in this election. The slacker motto is: Sleep till noon, drink beer, vote Kerry."

George Soros the Hungarian-born billionaire who went on his own 12-city speaking tour and spent an estimated $17 million on ads and get-out-the-vote drives to defeat the president, posted a message on his Web site describing himself as distressed."

"I'll be back," he wrote.

Buoyed by early exit polls that put their candidate ahead, many in Beverly Hills dined together and waited out the night. Slowly, their leading man faded from the political screen.

"There's a lot of disappointment out here. A lot of apprehension," said Robert Dowling, editor in chief of the Hollywood Reporter. "People are comatose."

It was the right coast versus the left coast, and the morning-after mood was described by Mr. Dowling as "somber." It left many Kerry supporters reaching for their Prozac vials.

"Mine is already empty," joked a high-level publicist who counts A-list celebrities as his clients. "Everyone's so down. All the studio execs are bummed. I have to tell you, when gay marriage becomes a bigger issue than the Iraq war, we're missing something."

Long decried as out of touch with "the real America," Hollywood woke up to its worst nightmare on Main Street.

"This is definitely Kerry country," said Gabriel Snyder, senior writer for Variety, the industry bible.

One can only imagine the despair of the Hollywood stars over the specter of glittery state dinners and policy lunches that could have been: Barbra and Moby,, Uma Thurman and Viggo Mortensen, Meryl Streep and Robert De Niro, Bette Midler and George Clooney. Directed, perhaps, by Rob Reiner and Steven Spielberg .

Who knew "moral values" voters could triumph over production values?

Asked whether outspoken stars might regret their more vitriolic sentiments about the president, Mr. Snyder said he doesn't think there is a risk of backlash.

"My prediction is the political tenor will come down for a little while," the Variety scribe said. "I don't think anyone will say anything wild. Next week, of course, might be different."

Among the most shrill in past months: Jennifer Aniston, the "Friends" actress who called Mr. Bush "a [expletive] idiot." Actor Leonardo DiCaprio, who stumped for Mr. Kerry in Oregon and Florida and appeared in an ad for the Democrat on the Internet. Singer John Mellencamp, who described Mr. Bush as "a cheap thug."

Cher also threw her wig in the ring, calling Mr. Bush "stupid and lazy" during a sparsely attended rally at a Miami Beach disco in Florida.

Al Franken is also a loser today; Dennis Miller a winner.

Sean Penn, Whoopi Goldberg and Meg Ryan: losers.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ron Silver and Angie Harmon: winners.

Bruce Springsteen and Jon Bon Jovi lost their full-throated bids to play at an inaugural ball. Larry Gatlin and Brooks & Dunn, call your agents.

Rap impresario Sean "P. Diddy" Combs made his preferences known, without using the names "Bush" or "Kerry," in urging the hip-hop nation to "Vote or Die." Fellow rapper Eminem put in a belated appearance with the animated video for his venomous anti-Bush single "Mosh," in which his "army" appears to veer from violence in the streets to voting at the polls.

What proved to be a tonic: Building 429 and other Christian rockers who urged prayerful consideration of the stakes on their "Redeem the Vote" tour.

"It was a very gradual thing," the Hollywood Reporter's Mr. Dowling recalled. "First it was Puff Diddy, then Bruce Springsteen came along, then Ben Affleck came out and the bandwagon rolled. It was slow to engage, and I'm not sure if Kerry wasn't just a surrogate for anti-Bush feelings."

"Celebrity testimonials may help [sell] erectile-dysfunction products," Marty Kaplan, communications professor at the University of South Carolina, told Agence France-Presse, "but in politics, they're mainly eye candy for the media."

Mr. Dowling agreed. "It didn't work," he said of the Democrats' star-studded support.

Asked whether Mr. Affleck, who wasn't available for comment, would suffer any repercussions, Mr. Dowling laughed and alluded to the actor's latest box-office flop "Surviving Christmas."

Ben Affleck," the Hollywood journalist said, " has more career problems at the moment than his political beliefs".
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 5:28:25 AM || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Understatement of the year:
Ben Affleck," the Hollywood journalist said, " has more career problems at the moment than his political beliefs".
Posted by: Scott R || 11/05/2004 8:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Michael Moore: Ich Bin Ein Jelly Donut!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/05/2004 8:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Maybe future historians will view this election as the turning point --- the Stalingrad of the New Left.
Posted by: Anonymous6092 || 11/05/2004 8:15 Comments || Top||

#4  HAhaha,this is just to funny.Hollywood Gliteraty are depressed because the"Great Unwashed"of"Fly-over country"ignored thier Great wisdom and world wide expertise.Hahaha,guess this must be a terable blow to thier fragile egos(poor babbies).I wish I could stare 1 of these d-ass' in the face and just laugh my ass off.
Posted by: raptor || 11/05/2004 8:26 Comments || Top||

#5  I hear Rosie's so depressed, she's gonna go out and buy another kid...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/05/2004 9:01 Comments || Top||

#6  "Celebrity testimonials may help [sell] erectile-dysfunction products," Marty Kaplan, communications professor at the University of South Carolina, told Agence France-Presse, "but in politics, they’re mainly eye candy for the media."

Damn, you should have posted a coffee/drink alert before that line! ;)



Posted by: Desert Blondie || 11/05/2004 9:07 Comments || Top||

#7  I think Hollywood is starting to realize where that chill wind is really coming from and it's not Washington DC.

Give Ben Affleck a break, he was the source of one of the funniest songs in Team America.
Posted by: RJ Schwarz || 11/05/2004 9:58 Comments || Top||

#8  And the inspiration for one of the funnist 'South Park' episodes I've seen.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/05/2004 10:01 Comments || Top||

#9  I have already decided not to see movies featuring these people. It is hard since it appears this leftist mentality is permeating the whole industry but I will be judicious in what I see. I haven't fogtten these people. They are "seared" in my memory now.
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 11/05/2004 10:04 Comments || Top||

#10  Wow, is that the same David Remnick that wrote the book on post-Soviet Russia? What pushed him into a pro-Kerry mindset?
Posted by: Jules 187 || 11/05/2004 10:11 Comments || Top||

#11  "Ben Affleck," the Hollywood journalist said, " has more career problems at the moment than his political beliefs".

I expect the rest of these dipshits will be experiencing this very soon.
Posted by: BH || 11/05/2004 10:25 Comments || Top||

#12  Please remember though that my Detroit brothers Kid Rock and Uncle Ted Nugent both supported the President. Eminem is funny but should stick to gross out rap, he's no political intellectual genius obviously.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/05/2004 10:51 Comments || Top||

#13  This article gives me immense satisfaction to the n'th degree.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/05/2004 10:51 Comments || Top||

#14  Amen Jarhead. Nugent: defender of gun rights, consumer of animals, we thank you. And a big thanks to Kid Rock for goin out an rockin' live for the troops.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/05/2004 11:19 Comments || Top||

#15  Wow... we'll have to call in for a whole fleet of "w-ambulances"!
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 11/05/2004 13:01 Comments || Top||

#16  That's right Sgt.Mom, and now that John Edwards no longer has a senate seat we should allow him to return to his former profession as soon as possible.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/05/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#17  Making terrorists cry is just business; this is pure pleasure.
Posted by: someone || 11/05/2004 13:30 Comments || Top||

#18  My brother in law grew up with Affleck. He didn't like him.
He laughs a lot these days.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/05/2004 13:39 Comments || Top||

#19  And here's proof of the severe effect of the election loss on Affleck... Looks like he took it kinda hard, heh.

"Makeup!"
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 13:56 Comments || Top||

#20  DeNiro? I thought he had made some comments very supportive of the WoT and OIF. Maybe I just find it impossible to believe that he would be an LLL crazy.
Posted by: (lowercase) matt || 11/05/2004 16:32 Comments || Top||

#21  Does this mean all these Hollywood leftists will be traveling from the Great White North to except any awards?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 18:52 Comments || Top||

#22  #17 someone - ROFLMAO!

Agreed!
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/05/2004 19:26 Comments || Top||

#23  The Affleck link is bye-bye.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/05/2004 20:43 Comments || Top||

#24  a2u - Oops - fixed now... Apologies - it's worth a look, lol!
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 20:51 Comments || Top||

#25  My LLL brother and his wife just called to invite me for Thanksgiving dinner with some academic-type friends of theirs. Boy, am I going to enjoy this...
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/05/2004 21:13 Comments || Top||

#26  Dave, don't gloat too much & please tell them most of us (70%+) in the active military are glad Kerry lost. Mostly because his wife has bigger gonads then he does but also because we'd rather have a staunch leader not some foppish dandie.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/05/2004 22:13 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Economy
Oil plunges below $48 a barrel on higher US supplies
New York's crude oil price plummeted to a six-week low on Thursday as traders' relief at a sharp rise in American crude inventories finally overwhelmed a post-US election rally.

New York's benchmark contract, light sweet crude for delivery in December, tumbled $US2.06 to $US48.82 a barrel - the lowest settlement since September 23.

The US Energy Department reported on Wednesday that crude oil inventories had climbed by 6.3 million barrels to 289.7 million barrels in the week to October 29.

However, distillates - mostly crucial heating oil and diesel - fell for the seventh consecutive week. They dropped 900,000 barrels to 115.7 million, below the average range.

On Thursday, the department said US gas stocks had climbed 63 billion cubic feet (1.23 billion cubic meters) to 1,921 billion cubic feet (90.20 billion cubic meters) in the same week.

Wake up call "There are clearly upside risks to oil prices across the winter ... Nigeria's strikes, Iran's nukes, Iraq's elections, weather," Deutsche Bank analysts wrote in a note to clients.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 5:06:27 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I don't know anything about the oil market, so maybe this is just a conspiracy theory, BUT...

Am I the only one who thinks it's suspicious that oil prices rose before the election (including a rise to $52/barrel just a day or 2 before) and dropped just after the prices could no longer be used to damage Bush's chance of re-election?

Just wondering, 's all.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/05/2004 11:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Or you could take it that the price rose on fear of Kerry totally screwing up the Middle East and the WOT and then relaxing after Bush won. Not likely either -- it's not a simple market.
Posted by: Tom || 11/05/2004 11:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Oh yeah, oil prices dropped, but the price of gas is still hovering around the 2.25/2.30/gal mark. Quick to rise but slow to fall, as it's always been.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/05/2004 16:24 Comments || Top||

#4  I want to hear about the investment funds Soros and his sons have been managing, as well as whether he is still a billionaire.

Manipulating oil prices would fit perfectly with his anti-Bush obsession, past behaviour, and theory (reflexivity?).
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/05/2004 17:15 Comments || Top||

#5  The majority of global oil price flucuations are dicided at the global market level based on supply, demand and at times pure panic. Friday's closing price @49.61, up again.

There is manipultion by those which have the finances to 'influence' energy prices at the international level. There is also 'price fixing' on the domestic front by those in Big Oil.

In any area there is always one gas staion which always has the most highest price. The word for that is 'crook'grabing all he can. Solution, drive down the street and do not buy his gas.


Meet Mr. Crook.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 18:31 Comments || Top||

#6  Good grief, Mark - $4.00 a gallon? In America?

Assuming this isn't the only gas station within 20 miles, what IDIOT would buy gas there?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/05/2004 19:23 Comments || Top||

#7  a Democrat.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/05/2004 19:31 Comments || Top||

#8  Total as in Total-Elf-Fina? I suspect that is a Canuckistan gas petrol station.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2004 19:34 Comments || Top||

#9  Whoops. Never mind. Canada measures gas in liters.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2004 19:37 Comments || Top||

#10  What goes up dramatically falls in the same fashion. It wasn't to many years ago that the oil patch died in an economic fashion. Watch, see , and learn.

D
Posted by: dorf || 11/05/2004 19:43 Comments || Top||

#11  'Total' is French and Dems would love it! :) Check out the link, talk about crooks...
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 19:46 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Tech
IBM supercomputer again claims record
A $100 million supercomputer being built to analyze the nation's nuclear stockpile has again set an unofficial performance record - the second in just over a month. IBM Corp.'s still-incomplete Blue Gene/L system, which will be installed at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, achieved a sustained performance of 70.72 trillion calculations per second using a standard test program, the Department of Energy said Thursday. The world's current official leader, Japan's Earth Simulator, can sustain 35.86 trillion calculations per second using the same software. The announcement is the latest in a series of claims leading up to next Tuesday's unveiling in Pittsburgh of the official list of the world's top computers.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 4:09:06 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Economy
Canadian officials say warning on Celebrex would be premature
Canadian health officials said Thursday they have received reports linking Pfizer painkiller Celebrex to 14 deaths and numerous heart-related side effects, but that it would be premature to issue a warning or pull from the shelves. Canada Adverse Drug Reaction Monitoring Program, part of the federal health department Health Canada, has collected 100 adverse-reaction reports on Celebrex over the past five years. Celebrex is among a class of drugs that includes Vioxx, a version manufactured by Merck that was pulled off the shelves Sept. 30 because it doubled the risk of heart attacks and strokes in patients taking it longer than 18 months. Pfizer called reports questioning the safety of Celebrex "misleading."
we have heard this line before
Pfizer said millions of patients have been prescribed Celebrex since its first approval in 1998 and large-scale clinical studies of up to four years showed no increased cardiovascular safety risk.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 4:07:34 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


U.S. obesity epidemic weighing down planes, pushing up fuel costs
Heavy suitcases aren't the only things weighing down airplanes and requiring them to burn more fuel, pushing up the cost of flights. A new government study reveals that airlines increasingly have to worry more about the weight of their passengers. America's growing waistlines are hurting the bottom lines of airline companies as the extra pounds on passengers are causing a drag on planes. Heavier fliers have created heftier fuel costs, according to the government study.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 3:47:17 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Flying in the West Australian bush, its the norm to be weighed. I recall on one occasion, the pilot had to remove a large bag of potatoes to accomodate me.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/05/2004 16:07 Comments || Top||

#2  And I think I've sat next to every one of them.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/05/2004 16:09 Comments || Top||

#3  LOL.

The only thing worse than being weighed for a plane is not being weighed.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Phil_B I'm working the math on flying potatoes in Australia. Would the marginal costs associated with the spuds have been worth the effort? Are potatoes that cherished?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||

#5 

Next new line on your ticket:

Flab Surcharge...

Posted by: Old Grouch || 11/05/2004 17:32 Comments || Top||

#6  Was this airline study done while Michael Moore was onboard?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 18:53 Comments || Top||

#7 
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 19:34 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Porn Video Shown To Third-Graders During Civics Lesson
Teachers Quickly Removed Adult Video From VCR
Those teacher planning materials can be, um, pretty intense.
SOUTHLAKE, Texas -- Officials at a North Texas school say an Election Day civics lesson for some third-graders inadvertently included a sexually explicit videotape.
I lived in Southlake - even before it was Southlake, just a speed trap on Hwy 114. Tiny place that grew like wildfire. Seems it's still pretty hot, heh. Unbelievable football program.
Some students at Johnson Elementary School in Southlake saw the video as they were leaving an auditorium Tuesday. School district officials said teachers had removed an unmarked tape from a video player and played a lesson on the three branches of government.
Oops - auto-play.
Afterward, a teacher returned the original video to the VCR. That adult video -- which included pornographic images -- began playing as teachers led students out of the auditorium.
Yeah, sure. Vandals left the tape in the player. Yewbetcha.
Officials said the video was quickly stopped and that most students didn't see it. The video player hadn't been used since last month, when vandals broke into the school.
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 2:01:26 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They are replacing the janitorial staff I bet LOL.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/05/2004 2:09 Comments || Top||

#2  About that Southlake football team? Yeah well, they're ranked #1 in the country, again. Yawn. Their record is 31-1 since moving up to Texas 5A Class - the big boys. The loss. It was last December - in the State Title game, which ruined their entire lives, I'd wager. How would you like to be on the team that loses the State Championship and breaks a string of 31 straight? The worst part? By 1 fucking point. I'll bet their parents put lumps of coal in their stockings and the cheerleaders cut them off over the Christmas Holidays. But they've started making up for it with a 9-0 run so far this year. Last reg season game is tonight. When they hit 32 straight they'll have finally put that little hiccup behind them. And I remember when they were a 1B team, heh.
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 3:13 Comments || Top||

#3  No doubt .com, muslims pray toward mecca, some of the Texans I knew used to pray toward Odessa ;)
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/05/2004 10:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Some students at Johnson Elementary School ....

Heh.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/05/2004 11:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Newbies .com
This from USA Today:

The Valdosta Touchdown Club, which raises money for the high school football program, is 57 years old and has 1,300 members. Charter members are still serving the club. Valdosta High has won 23 state titles in Class 4A and 5A. The Wildcats have been voted No. 1 in the country five times by USA TODAY and once by ESPN. The high school football coach at Valdosta makes more than $75,000 a year, which is more than some college coaches. Legendary coach Nick Hyder, who died of a heart attack at the school in May, 1996, had an overall record of 249-36-2 (.871).
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 12:22 Comments || Top||

#6  From Porn to Football - people come to Rantburg when they need the dots connected!
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/05/2004 13:15 Comments || Top||

#7  Um...Let's not make the clipart any racier, okay? Some of us view this site from work!
Posted by: Dar || 11/05/2004 13:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Second that. I don't need to get fired for reading Rantburg.
Posted by: BH || 11/05/2004 14:23 Comments || Top||

#9  Ship - Lol! easy there, bro - your concern for the dimensions of your member are apparent, lol! If you read my in-line comments, you could've saved your keyboard some abuse. They are newbies, indeed. Wide place in the road with a single flashing yellow light on Hwy 114 between Grapevine and Roanoke - about 5 miles from DFW Airport. From a pop of about 2,000 in 1970 to about 27,000 today... yet they virtually own Texas HS Football, now. Tough little place producing tough kids.

Fred, as for the pic, hell - I love it, heh. I don't have anything less randy to offer, though.
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||

#10  ack! ima at work to and was have to make shure nobosy was saw that.
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/05/2004 14:53 Comments || Top||

#11  No sweat .com, I just wanted an excuse to post Valdosta stuff.... but jeezus... 75 grand a year (actually more) for a HS football coach? We should ask Ptah his opinion, I figure Vidalia folks run up against them on occasion.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 16:38 Comments || Top||

#12  Ship - Lol, I was jes funnin', anyway. I haven't even seen the school there since about '81 or '82 - but the feelings of a place never leave you, so I know what you mean. Regards the salary - uh, I'm pretty sure the Plano, TX coaches make more than that - prolly true of Odessa Permian and other football hotspots in TX, too. And let me tell ya, that amt goes a long long way in some places, lol!

AC could prolly tell us more about Odessa...
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 16:44 Comments || Top||

#13  As far as the illustration is concerned:

It has a pastel background, it's an Art Shot.
Jeez, I worry about RBs kulture level sometimes.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 17:09 Comments || Top||

#14  If it comes to being employed or kultured, I'll take the former, thank you!
Posted by: Dar || 11/05/2004 17:59 Comments || Top||

#15  The teachers I had (most of them A+ people) would have had us in the office for just mentioning this, and we get 'stick' or 'rattan' (bamboo stick)! Which worked! :)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 18:09 Comments || Top||

#16  I thought the picture was one of the teachers.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/05/2004 18:26 Comments || Top||

#17  Dammit if you are going to post a picture like that please put a NSFW in the headline. Some of us are at work.....

(NSFW - Not Safe For Work)
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/05/2004 18:39 Comments || Top||

#18  Mrs D., If I had teachers like that, I would have wanted to get the stick ;)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/05/2004 19:32 Comments || Top||


Drudge: Krugman dead and irrelevant, but still squealing
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 01:51 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I would email him and tell him to FOAD but he gets that so often that I am sure the they screen for it now. After watching a member of the NY times staff on CSPAN today it wont change their self selecting elitist world view anyhow no matter how many they got.

How quaint he is going to write an economics text book. Perhaps his computer will short and kill him. Well one can wish.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/05/2004 2:05 Comments || Top||

#2  After O'Reily dressed him down on TV I'm surprised that he has the cajones to come out in public. Krugaman has been WRONG about the Economy, WRONG about the WOT, WRONG about President Bush, and WRONG about this election. Why the NY times still retains his services is beyond my imagination. But then you have to keep a LLL around to remind you how foolish they are.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/05/2004 10:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Has he been playing hackeysack with a bat in Texas?
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/05/2004 15:43 Comments || Top||

#4  From: mmurray821
To: Krugman

Subject: Reaction to your article

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P.S. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

P.S.S. Have a nice day.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 11/05/2004 17:56 Comments || Top||

#5  My grandma could take that bitch-assed weasel krugman.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/05/2004 22:04 Comments || Top||

#6  Clown. Loser. Irrelevant MSM blowhard.
Posted by: lex || 11/05/2004 23:13 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Tech
Bush Victory Will Jump-Start Space Plans
Posted by: .com || 11/05/2004 01:41 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Mars Rovers Get Mystery Power Boost
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2004 12:53:22 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sounds to me like it could have rained.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/05/2004 1:07 Comments || Top||

#2  They are happy. They just found out Bush won. I would think they got "cleaned" is an OK guess but it could be an increase in solar energy as well.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/05/2004 1:27 Comments || Top||

#3  More likely a light, 300MPH breeze...
Posted by: mojo || 11/05/2004 2:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Here's a fresh picture from one of the rovers:

Posted by: Dave D. || 11/05/2004 6:46 Comments || Top||

#5  *heh* I was expecting a WalMart. :)
Posted by: eLarson || 11/05/2004 8:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Unexplained power boost? Cleaner solar cells? I don't think so.

Any sci-fi fan knows that the rover in question has just come in contact with a mysterious energy beam from an ancient martian artifact that will turn the rover into a rampaging kill-bot. You would think NASA could figure this stuff out.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/05/2004 8:47 Comments || Top||

#7  Energy beam? Naaa, more likely just one of the local homeless crowd wielding a squeegee and some Windex. Hopefully NASA sent tip money along.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/05/2004 11:49 Comments || Top||

#8  I wonder if they've written about this on their LiveJournal blogs. Seriously. Sort of.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 11/05/2004 11:52 Comments || Top||

#9  I know it was stray energy from the Zionist Death Ray™
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/05/2004 11:55 Comments || Top||

#10  I've noticed that the sunshine is a little brighter now that Bush has been re-elected...
Posted by: Tom || 11/05/2004 11:58 Comments || Top||

#11  Re #9: Make that the infamous TESLA DEATH RAY! "Zionist entity" merely updated an existing idea... BTw, first used at the Mitla Pass in '56, and then again on the Golan in '67. Malfunctioning TESLA DEATH RAY equipment on the Bar-Lev Line in '73 allowed Egyptian advance to proceed unabated...its repair days later allowed General Sharon to destroy the Egyptian 3rd Army and proceed into Africa... BTW a more portable version of the TESLA DEATH RAY now standard equipment on certain late model Merkavas...
Posted by: borgboy || 11/05/2004 12:22 Comments || Top||

#12  Everybody already knows that Borgboy.

:)
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2004 12:33 Comments || Top||

#13  ET has a whisk broom.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/05/2004 13:38 Comments || Top||

#14  Someone just wound up the rubber band again is all....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/05/2004 13:57 Comments || Top||

#15  It was the Mysterons. Just ask Capt. Scarlet.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/05/2004 14:06 Comments || Top||

#16  Swiffer?
Posted by: Analog Roam || 11/05/2004 16:33 Comments || Top||

#17  Naw, Marvin gave 'em a jumpstart from his Illudium Pew-36 Explosive Space Modulator.
Posted by: Old Grouch || 11/05/2004 19:08 Comments || Top||

#18  "Bush Victory Will Jump-Start Space Plans" (eg Mars exploration)

immediately followed by:

"Mars Rovers Get Mystery Power Boost"

The connection is almost spooky . . .
Posted by: gp || 11/05/2004 20:32 Comments || Top||

#19  Martian squeegee men?
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2004 20:35 Comments || Top||

#20  Something WONDERFUL is about to happen..."2001 A Space Odd.."!!
Posted by: smn || 11/05/2004 22:03 Comments || Top||



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