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Caribbean-Latin America
Guatemala mob kills, burns suspected organ thieves
Thousands of angry Guatemalans beat a woman to death and set another on fire on suspicion they had killed a young girl and stolen her organs to sell them, police said on Saturday.

Nine-year-old Mishel Diaz disappeared from her home in Camotan, a town near the border with Honduras, last Thursday and her mutilated body was discovered a day later abandoned on a dirt track. Her arm was cut off, eyes gouged out and body carved up, with the skin on her chest removed in what looked like an attempt to steal her heart and kidneys, said town police chief Enrique Lemus.

An angry mob wielding rocks and sticks went house to house looking for three women they thought committed the murder. "Some neighbors said they saw one woman kidnap the little girl. That's how they figured these women were responsible," Lemus said. "Then at least 2,000 people went out looking for them. It was the entire town." The furious horde beat 24-year-old Marciana Recinos to death in the town square.

Police rescued the other two women but only after the mob doused one woman with gasoline and set her on fire. She is now recovering in hospital and the third woman is in jail. There is a deep fear in rural Guatemala of children being stolen to sell them or their organs for transplants, although this is often based on rumor and unfounded stories.
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/17/2007 00:56 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There's no justice like angry mob justice.

And there's no revenge like angry mob revenge, when you blame your neighbor for stealing organs because they wouldn't loan you a cup of sugar.
Posted by: gromky || 06/17/2007 3:02 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Chine Devours Its Young - Part Infinity

Parents forced to hunt in slave pits for children

SU JINDUO and his sister Su Jinpen were travelling home by bus from a holiday visit to the eastern city of Qingdao during the Chinese new year when they disappeared. Their father, Su Jianjun, said Jinduo, 16, and Jinpen, 18, were cheated out of their money when they sought to buy a ticket for the final leg of the journey home, and were taken in by a woman who gave them shelter and a meal on a cold winter night. The woman also offered them a chance to earn enough money to pay their fare by helping her sell fruit, Mr Su said.

However, the next thing they knew they were being loaded onto a minibus with several other children and taken to a factory in the next province, where they were pressed into service making bricks. Several days later Jinduo escaped, with another boy, and managed to reach home. A few days later Mr Su was able to rescue his daughter. This story and many others like it have swept China in recent days in an unfolding labour scandal in central China that involves the kidnapping of hundreds of children, most in their teens but some as young as eight.
Heartless bastards. May they rot in everlasting Hell.
The children, and many adults, have reportedly been forced to work under brutal conditions - scantily clothed, unpaid and often fed little more than water and steamed buns - in the brick kilns of Shanxi and Henan provinces. Police have rescued 568 people and detained 168, including Heng Tinghan, the alleged foreman of a kiln in Hongtong county where 31 enslaved workers were recently rescued. Police caught Heng in central China's Hubei province late on Saturday after a nationwide hunt. Mr Su said his children were brought to the factory about midnight of the day they vanished. Once there, they were told they would have to make bricks. He said the children were told: "You will start working in the morning, so get some sleep, and don't lose your bowls, or you will have to pay for them." They were also charged the equivalent of about $7.80 for a blanket.

Mr Su managed to recover his children after only a matter of days at the kiln, but many other parents have been less fortunate, losing contact with children for months or years. As stories of forced labour at the brick kilns have spread, hundreds of parents have petitioned local authorities to help them find their children and crack down on the kilns. In some cases, according to Chinese media reports, parents have also teamed up to try to rescue their children, placing little stock in the local authorities, who are sometimes in collusion with the operators of the kilns.
Another legacy of greed and brutality brought to you by communism.
Other reports have said that local authorities, including labour inspectors, have taken children from newly closed kilns and resold them to other factories. The director of the legal department of the Shanxi province Workers Union said it was hard to monitor the kilns because of their location in isolated areas. "Those factories are located in very remote places, and most of them are illegal entities, without any legal registration, so it is very hard for people outside to know what is going on there," said the union official, Zhang Xiaosuo.
These are damned factories. How hard can they be to locate? Ain't nobody gonna convince me that someone can set up a major operation like a brick factory without the local politicians and cops lining up for payoffs.
"We are now doing a province-wide investigation into them, both the legal and illegal ones, to look into labour issues there."
"We want to find out how they were able to set up operations with having to pay off the central provincial government first!"
Liu Cheng, a professor of labour law at Shanghai Normal University, had a different explanation. "My first reaction is that this seems like a typical example of a government-business alliance," Professor Liu said. "Forced labour and child labour in China are illegal, but some local governments don't care too much."

Zhang Xiaoying, 37, whose son, 15, disappeared in January, said she had visited more than 100 brick factories during a handful of visits to Shanxi province in search of him. "You just could not believe what you saw," Ms Zhang said in a telephone interview. "Some of the kids working at these places were at most 14 or 15 years old." The local police, she said, were unwilling to help. Outside one factory, they even demanded bribes, she said.
It's not a "bribe", it's called a "ransom".
"We finally got into that place and I saw people hauling carts of bricks with great difficulty. "Some of them were very small, and the ropes they pulled left tracks of blood on their shoulders and backs. Others were making bricks, standing by the machines. "They had to move the bricks from the belt very quickly, because they were hot and heavy and they could easily get burnt or hurt by the machines." By Friday, with the help of Mr Su, Ms Zhang finally located her son at a kiln near the one to which Mr Su's children had been taken.
All courtesy of those fine communist folks who cost this world BILLIONS of dollars in stolen profits by selling us contaminated food, counterfeit poisoned Colgate toothpaste and toxic childrens' toys .
Posted by: Zenster || 06/17/2007 12:10 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


NYT Reviews Chinese Stonewalling on Poisonings
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 06/17/2007 04:36 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  “The U.S. imports a lot of Chinese glycerin and it is used in ingested products such as toothpaste,”

I need to follow up on this, but Mr. Wife mentioned that American-made glycerin is extremely inexpensive, which makes me wonder why anyone felt the need to buy the Chinese stuff.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/17/2007 9:38 Comments || Top||

#2  State-owned exporters then shipped the toxic syrup to European traders, who resold it without identifying the previous owner — an attempt to keep buyers from bypassing them on future orders.

Right there. Why should you buy from a trading company, and accept their markup, when you could be buying factory direct?
Posted by: gromky || 06/17/2007 10:10 Comments || Top||

#3  The answer to both of you is "kick backs".
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 06/17/2007 11:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Sinochem International Chemicals Company, a giant exporter in Beijing owned by the Chinese government.

Please remember exactly who it is that's trying to kill us for a few extra bucks. Let's also not forget who's allowing it to happen.

He added, “We cannot be optimistic about our chances for success in tracking down the other possible glycerine shipments.” The following May, Mr. Pulham, who was part of the original F.D.A. investigative team in Haiti, tried to revive the investigation. “Is it possible to block-list all Chinese pharmaceutical products until we gain cooperation?” he asked.

A reasonable question and proper solution to a problem that's been going on for well over a decade. Why don't our politicians take action?

The suggestion went nowhere.

Gee, doesn't our government care more about its citizens being poisoned more than their big business campaign contributors making an extra nickle?

Five months later, Ms. Pendergast of the F.D.A. wrote her memorandum, imploring investigators to keep digging. “China is turning into one of the major bulk pharmaceutical producers in the world,” she wrote. “Unless they have an open, transparent and predictable system for dealing with problems and other countries, it is going to be rough sledding in the years ahead

Translation: A lot more Americans will need to DIE before their government gets off of its sold-out ass and cracks down on an enemy nation that routinely sends us poisonous foodstocks.

After The Times reported in May that the Panama poison had been made and exported by Chinese companies as 99.5 percent pure glycerin, Chinese regulators said they would reopen their investigation of the incident. Three weeks later, the officials acknowledged some “misconduct” in how Chinese companies labeled the toxic syrup.
But most of the blame, they said, rested with a Panamanian importer who changed the paperwork to make the syrup look safer than it actually was. The F.D.A. disagrees, saying the deception began with Chinese companies falsely labeling a poisonous product glycerin. “If the drums had been 99.5 percent glycerin, the deaths in Panama would never have occurred,” the F.D.A. said in a statement.


It isn't "misconduct", it's called "murder". China continues to engage in government sanctioned piracy of intellectual property, copyright violations, product counterfeiting and a host of other illegal trade practices that cost this world TENS OF BILLIONS of dollars PER YEAR. China has already killed THOUSANDS of people around the world with its contaminated and intentionally mislabeled exports. The time is now to begin erecting trade barriers that punish this sort of criminal activity.

The answer to both of you is "kick backs".

It isn't just kick backs. Investors and corporate executives are so obsessed with profitability that ethics have taken a back seat. Even when those ethical lapses can result in loss of life. Remember how Ford's lawyers determined that redesign of the Pinto's flawed gas tank placement would cost more than the wrongful death lawsuits? Thousands of American pets are dead because petfood manufactures could save less than $100 per TON by using tainted Chinese wheat gluten instead a domestically sourced product. Now, consider how the Chinese import wouldn't be cost competitive if their currency wasn't manipulated or the shipping containers that brought the crap here weren't financed by a giant Ponzi scam.

In the pursuit of maximized profits corporate America is willing to hold its nose as they deal with the most corrupt and vile partners. Be it Saudi Arabian financers of terrorism, or Chinese Mandarins and their slave based organ harvesting economy, all are welcomed with open arms. America's politicians are bought off for pennies as they willingly turn a blind eye to the gradual destruction of our industrial base and boat loads of toxic imported garbage being foisted off on us. It's called treason.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/17/2007 14:29 Comments || Top||

#5  Actually, the cost of Chinese glycerin is about 20-30% less than US-produced glycerin, even taking transportation costs into account. Indonesian glycerin is even cheaper, but is in very short supply since it actually being bought up in large quantities -- by the Chinese!

Bulk glycerin is not normally manufactured as such, but is generated as a by-product of the manufacture of fatty acids (the big ticket item) from plant oils. For this reason, no producer sinks a lot of money into their glycerin production - it's just not economical.

The United States Pharmacopeia (USP) sets quality standards for raw materials (no matter whether the source is foreign or domestic) used in manufacturing US drug products. Although USP is a private entity, it is accepted by FDA as authoritative in this regard. USP purity specifications for glycerin are very stringent, and the amount of diethylene glycol and other impurities "allowed" in glycerin for human drug use are strictly limited.

There is no question in this case that the Chimese dumped substandard/contaminated material into the US market. But the other side of the coin is that the drug manufacturer should have double-checked the quality of the incoming glycerin to determine if it was in fact suitable for manufacturing any product intended for human use.

In this case, trust but verify (and then verify again!) is the best rule for avoiding these disastrous public health situations.
Posted by: Thor Glairong9168 || 06/17/2007 16:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Thor, I'm sorry, but I just don't feel the trust right now.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 06/17/2007 23:21 Comments || Top||


Most of world cool with China catching up with U.S.
A new public opinion poll shows a majority of the American people do not see a danger in China’s economic and military buildup, demonstrating that Beijing's efforts to influence public opinion in the United States have been successful.

The poll, conducted by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs and WorldPublicOpinion.org in conjunction with research centers around the world, found that a majority of citizens in eight of 14 countries surveyed (and a plurality in four) expect China to catch up with the United States economically and that they are not worried about it. Less than a third of respondents believe China's rise will be "mostly negative," with majorities in most countries anticipating a mixed or positive outcome.

However, the poll also shows that a majority or near majority of respondents in most countries do not trust China will act responsibility beyond its borders. Most Asians, for example, favor a continuing U.S. security presence to counter China.
Nope, sorry, if you favor China over us you get to figure out how to contain them.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's because they simply don't know much about China, but they know that they hate America. Just wait...
Posted by: gromky || 06/17/2007 3:03 Comments || Top||

#2  "Well, yeah, the Chinese have contempt for anyone not Chinese....except for the people of my country. Really. They told me so. They wouldn't lie, would they? Only Americans do that. BTW, the damn Yankees are late with the check again..."
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 06/17/2007 7:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Cool. US weapons exports will explode. Combined with a rational trade policy and the US will become a net exporter again.
Posted by: ed || 06/17/2007 8:47 Comments || Top||

#4  IN another poll most of the world are idiots if they are cool with that.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 06/17/2007 10:29 Comments || Top||

#5  In the same vein as Ed, anyone else notice how many recent sales of F-16s, F-18s, F-15s, Patriot missile batteries, reconditioned UH-1s and M113s have gone through? Seems like everyone in SE Asia is suddenly stocking up on used American weapondry : including the Red Chinese if and when they can steal it.
Plus Taiwan just approved about 50% of the last big weapons package we offered them, and Singapore is making noises about Aegis-capable ships. Also, there was some noise from Vietnam recently about getting spares for some of the M113s and UH-1s left there.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 06/17/2007 18:16 Comments || Top||

#6 
Happy Father's Day to all the Dads out there.

So, how's all this killer toothpaste and pet food making it to the aisles of our trustworthy food (etc.) stores? (I never thought we'd actually devolve to this point). Dear Lord, Please deliver us. AMEN
Posted by: Asymmetrical T || 06/17/2007 21:33 Comments || Top||

#7  a majority of citizens in eight of 14 countries surveyed (and a plurality in four) expect China to catch up with the United States economically and that they are not worried about it.

Just so long as America gets a thumb in the eye.

However, the poll also shows that a majority or near majority of respondents in most countries do not trust China will act responsibility beyond its borders.

But America will always save us no matter how much we spit on them.

When is this irrational anti-American shit going to stop? We need to leave a couple of nations out to twist in the communist Chinese breeze, pour encourager les autres. Evidently, the mineshaft canary known as Tibet didn't trill loudly enough.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/17/2007 22:20 Comments || Top||


Europe
French wine militants threaten action
Keep buying Californian and Aussie wines, folks, it's working!
Posted by: Steve White || 06/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hee, hee, hee. The thought of winemakers turning to terrorism because nobody wants to buy their overpriced, low-quality wine...only in France.

Heck, which side is going to surrender? They can't both surrender, can they?
Posted by: gromky || 06/17/2007 7:45 Comments || Top||

#2  "The streets will run red with the merlot of our enemies!"
Posted by: Mike || 06/17/2007 9:33 Comments || Top||

#3  I've got a solution. Produce wine that is Drinkable
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 06/17/2007 10:06 Comments || Top||

#4  French Whine.
Posted by: Icerigger || 06/17/2007 14:36 Comments || Top||

#5  With typically Gallic logic, the French government nonetheless admits gazillions of Muslim immigrants who will never drink a drop of wine and would just a soon burn off all the vineyards.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/17/2007 16:47 Comments || Top||

#6  What exactly do they want Sarkozy to do?
Make all foreign wines illegal or something equally as impossible. If they cannot compete, they will die, that has been the way with every other country since WWI ended.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/17/2007 22:45 Comments || Top||

#7  I think they want to force french consumers to pay more for something they wouldn't choose to buy.

Protectionism is THE worst form of corporate gifting.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 06/17/2007 23:40 Comments || Top||


'Steamroller' Sarkozy set for landslide
And the best part is the hand-wringing at the Guardian.
In the final seal of approval for President Nicolas Sarkozy from the French people, he appears to have won a crushing victory in today's parliamentary elections. He now has a massive endorsement for an ambitious and controversial programme of reforms. The latest round of polls gave the right-wing president's party, the Union for a Popular Movement (UMP), a historic majority, with more than 65 per cent of the vote, paving the way for a summer of new laws and a potential winter of industrial discontent.

The UMP, the party which Sarkozy led until being elected president in May for a five-year term, now seems likely to have up to 450 of the 577 seats in the national assembly. The total will be boosted by a variety of small centre-right groups who will be parliamentary allies. It is set to be the biggest single parliamentary majority under the 49-year-old constitution of the Fifth Republic. 'It's going to be a landslide,' said one parliamentary candidate yesterday. 'The people are with us and there is no real opposition.'

According to satirical newspaper Le Canard Enchaine, the parliamentary election has pitted the 'steamroller' of the right against the 'rolling pin' of the left, with a 'Rhapsody in Blue' as the likely result. "Hegemony, dominance, supremacy...all describe the grip of the "Sarkozy system",' said the newspaper.
Along with economic revival, liberty, hard work, success ...
The left, split by internal divisions and undermined by ideological weaknesses, has not been helped by high level of abstentions. 'The moment the intensity of a campaign falls, it's the young, the least educated, the most economically disadvantaged who fall away fastest,' said election expert Celine Braconnier.

The seats of several senior Socialist figures are now threatened. Segolene Royal, the defeated Socialist candidate, has played on fears of an all-powerful Sarkozy, but public divisions between Royal and the secretary of the Socialist Party, her partner Francois Hollande, and public sniping among senior figures have damaged her campaign. On Friday, Royal insisted her party 'came together when the stakes are high'.

However, MPs, grass-roots militants and voters are disgusted at the internal rivalry. 'There is no point in replacing [one leader] with another unless we have a real debate. We need a genuine calm, cool analysis of what has happened,' said Philippe Martin, a Socialist MP.
You're Socialists. Calm and cool aren't in your vocabulary.
Sarkozy has wasted no time in announcing a raft of economic reforms designed to give his country's sluggish economy a 'fiscal shock'. These include rebates on mortgage payments to create a 'nation of home-owners', the exemption of hours worked beyond the 35-hour limit and a top limit of 50 per cent on total tax paid.

Although Sarkozy's approval levels have hit record levels of 67 per cent, the government has been rattled by mounting concerns among voters about a proposed hike to value added tax. Sarkozy's government is considering raising VAT from 19.5 per cent to 24.5 per cent to help finance plans to reduce payroll charges and make French companies more competitive. The Socialists argue that the move would hurt the poor, and a poll published on Friday said that 60 per cent of voters oppose the idea. Sarkozy had largely stayed away from the debate about VAT until Thursday night, when he issued a statement saying he 'would not accept any increase in VAT in its current form that would decrease the French people's purchasing power'.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is very good news. Sarkozy now has the horsepower to start effecting real changes, not just spout platitudes.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter2970 || 06/17/2007 1:07 Comments || Top||

#2  When you are done over there, Sarkozy, come on over here and unf*ck our Congress. Would be much appreciated.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 06/17/2007 2:53 Comments || Top||

#3  I won't believe this guy's the real deal until I see boatloads of muzzie MFs unwillingly headed back for the Maghreb. Take back the banlieues and loudly and publicly kick the asses of the muzzie criminals and the real French will think you're Charlemagne redux.
Posted by: Mac || 06/17/2007 3:04 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm expecting one of his first changes will be the ROE for the police.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 06/17/2007 8:27 Comments || Top||

#5  The left ... the young, the least educated, the most economically disadvantaged ... said election expert Celine Braconnier.

Just remove a bit of unnecessary verbiage and you have a sound definition!
Posted by: John Murtha || 06/17/2007 11:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Ahhhh....What does Murtha know?
Posted by: Bobby || 06/17/2007 11:33 Comments || Top||

#7  "Along with economic revival, liberty, hard work, success ..."

...which require sacrifice, exposure to risk, and a twelve-step program to un-addict yourselves from infinite income security provided by government mandate.

When have leftists ever embraced these?
Posted by: no mo uro || 06/17/2007 15:28 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Democrat Strategist: Liberal Bloggers Have 'Much Too Much Influence Over' Harry Reid
Here’s something you don’t see every day: a Democrat strategist chiding a senior Democrat official, and claiming that liberal bloggers have “much too much influence over” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada).

Yet, that’s what happened Saturday when Fox News' Catherine Herridge invited Democrat strategist Bob Beckel and Republican strategist Rich Galen on to discuss recent events on Capitol Hill.

Transcript and video at the link.
Posted by: Mike || 06/17/2007 09:33 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The problem is Reid doesn't have enough influence over Reid.

Legally, can a lobotomized person serve in public office?
Posted by: DarthVader || 06/17/2007 12:12 Comments || Top||

#2  #1: "Legally, can a lobotomized person serve in public office?"

Apparently so, DV - or half of Congress would be disqualified.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/17/2007 12:40 Comments || Top||

#3  "Democrat strategist chiding a senior Democrat official, and claiming that liberal bloggers have “much too much influence over” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada)."

"We spend all that money to lobby the Donks and the liberal bloggers get their influence for free. It just ain't fair!"
Posted by: usmc6743 || 06/17/2007 14:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Harry is going where the untapped money is. Right now, that's the lib-bloggers.
Posted by: Pappy || 06/17/2007 21:03 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Contract signed to rebuild Samarra shrine
BAGDAD - Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Al Maliki said on Saturday that his government had signed a contract to rebuild the bombed Shia Al Askari shrine in the northern town of Samarra. A first attack on the shrine in February 2006 destroyed its golden dome and sparked savage sectarian violence which continues to this day. The shrine was bombed for a second time last Wednesday.

During his meeting with visiting US Defence Secretary Robert Gates, Maliki said ‘we have signed a contract with UNESCO to immediately reconstruct the shrine,’ according to a statement from his office quoting him. Many Shia leaders had criticised Maliki’s government for the delay in reconstructing the shrine after the February attack, especially radical cleric Moqtada Al Sadr.

The statement issued by Maliki’s office on Saturday however did not say what role the United Nations cultural and educational body would play in the reconstruction.
The UN will supervise the reconstruction from .. Paris. They'll handle the catering, the ordering of Toyota land cruisers and the sex industry workers.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  United Nations cultural and educational body would play in the reconstruction I think the word play is the operative word here.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 06/17/2007 19:37 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Episcopal Priest: "I am both Muslim and Christian"
h/t Lucianne
Shortly after noon on Fridays, the Rev. Ann Holmes Redding ties on a black headscarf, preparing to pray with her Muslim group on First Hill. On Sunday mornings, Redding puts on the white collar of an Episcopal priest. She does both, she says, because she's Christian and Muslim.
She's also both a chicken and a flounder. She's both tall and short. She's plump and she's thin as a rail. She's faithful to her sweety, yet available to anyone who's in the mood for a quickie.
Redding, who until recently was director of faith formation at St. Mark's Episcopal Cathedral, has been a priest for more than 20 years. Now she's ready to tell people that, for the last 15 months, she's also been a Muslim — drawn to the faith after an introduction to Islamic prayers left her profoundly moved.
In that case she's not a Christian anymore.
Her announcement has provoked surprise and bewilderment in many, raising an obvious question: How can someone be both a Christian and a Muslim?
Two word answer: they can't.
But it has drawn other reactions too. Friends generally say they support her, while religious scholars are mixed: Some say that, depending on how one interprets the tenets of the two faiths, it is, indeed, possible to be both. Others consider the two faiths mutually exclusive.
I'd kinda go with the latter interpretation, since it sez on the labels of both that that they are.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: mrp || 06/17/2007 09:41 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Archbishop of Canterbury considers himself both an Episcopalian and a Druid, and heaven knows what some of the more icky American Episcopalians thinks of themselves as well. Satanists, Wiccans, Thugee.

It's no wonder that the Anglicans want to pitch them out on their ear. Maybe they can borrow some Dominicans from the Catholics and have a good old fashioned witch trial and burning.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/17/2007 11:56 Comments || Top||

#2  This guy is proof you can be an idiot and a dickhead at the same time.
Posted by: DarthVader || 06/17/2007 12:13 Comments || Top||

#3  If you deny the divinity of Christ, you cannot be a Christian. If you accept the divinity of Christ, you cannot be a Muslim.

I'd have thought that was clear. Apparently not.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 06/17/2007 12:29 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm a little bit Country, I'm a little bit Rock and Roll...
Posted by: Penguin || 06/17/2007 12:30 Comments || Top||

#5  "I'm a floor wax and a dessert topping." Jackass is more like it.
Posted by: regular joe || 06/17/2007 12:32 Comments || Top||

#6  Going back to her "african" roots, is she? Because islam is the religion of the poor and oppressed, while christianity is the religion of privileges (whitey).
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 06/17/2007 12:32 Comments || Top||

#7  "I am both Muslim and Christian"

No, you're not. You can be one or the other, but not both at the same time (and I suspect you haven't been Christian for a long time, if you ever were).

What you are is a LOON.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/17/2007 12:39 Comments || Top||

#8  Redding's bishop, the Rt. Rev. Vincent Warner,

Most bishops are imposters. They don't move diagonally.
Posted by: badanov || 06/17/2007 12:46 Comments || Top||

#9  Here's a "tidbit". Seems she may have other issues, too.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 06/17/2007 12:55 Comments || Top||

#10  WTF? Muslims believe that Jesus Christ was only one of many "prophets." They concoct over reaching exegesis of the apocryphal "Gospel of Barnabas," to point to prophecy of the "first coming": Muhammed (pig dung be upon him). They believe that the cult founder is the "last prophet," and that he "perfected" the cult, from all "Satanic" distortion.

A Muslim will not touch either Jewish or Christian sacred books without apologist' purpose, or to advance dhimmism by strategic deceit (taqiyah). In stark contrast, Pope John Paul 2 was photographed kissing the Koran, while on a Middle East trip. More than the problem of ignorance, is the absolute refusal of certain morons to understand Islam. I have corrected hundreds of fat-heads; few ever shake their deranged notions of benign Islam.

The real relationship between Christians and Muslims is: mortal enemies. Benign-Islam dogma is allowing Iran to build nuclear tipped missiles, and aim them at America.
Posted by: McZoid || 06/17/2007 13:09 Comments || Top||

#11  nice catch Mullah Richard. Note the heavy exposures to substances causing "learning deficit"...
Posted by: Frank G || 06/17/2007 13:19 Comments || Top||

#12  Pope John Paul 2 was photographed kissing the Koran, while on a Middle East trip.

I believe the Koran-kissing took place during an ecumenical confab in Assisi, Italy.
Posted by: mrp || 06/17/2007 13:21 Comments || Top||

#13  Addenda: Muslims believe that Abraham was NOT a Jew. Mohammed called him a "Hanif." There is no record of any race of that name. The "satanic verse" episode that caused Mohammed to revise the Koran - recorded in Tirmidhi - was concocted by Mohammed to prove that Satan can even possess a "prophet." Koran "corrections" of the Old and New Testaments, reflect Mohammed's proffer of Satanic distortion of Jewish and Christian books. It is not accidental that Iran's Ayatollahs refer to America - a country founded by Christians - as "the Great Satan." Their purpose in life is: the murder of every non-Muslim American. And Condi Rice wants to negotiate with those diseases in human form.

The Koran was concocted for Mohammed's private purpose: to effect revenge on fellow Meccans who emasculated him because he was a sex toy for a woman 15 years senior to him. After he self-annointed himself with "prophet" status, he married 13 women, one after a battlefield rape and another when she was 6 years old.

I am a Atheist who recognizes freedom of conscience, with separation of church and State. However, I support extreme use of force against Muslims, because their aggressive and genocidal cult is unconscionable in its entirety. I would sleep very well after launching H-bombs on Mecca, Medina, Karbala and Qom.
Posted by: McZoid || 06/17/2007 13:24 Comments || Top||

#14  Yikes! She's got Bette Davis Marty Feldman eyes...
Posted by: Raj || 06/17/2007 13:35 Comments || Top||

#15  Having left the Episcopal church 25 years ago when woman 'priests' were allowed, and staying permanently away following the gay priest piety decisions, this is another example of a bipolar religeous malady in that former great church. Ms. Redding's move to the 7th Century, AD, is insane unless right and wrong do not exist.
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger || 06/17/2007 13:53 Comments || Top||

#16  A very fool.
Posted by: Icerigger || 06/17/2007 14:29 Comments || Top||

#17  As a Christian this is simply a sign, one of the final seven signs, that the end of man's era as we have known it, is immanent.

Second Thessalonians 2:3: “That day shall not come, except there come a falling away—an apostacy—first.”

Luke 16:13: "No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other."

In Islam, since she is female, she can never be the head of a Mosque. She is looting what is left of the great Episcopalian church, formerly a Christian church, by drawing pay and benefits on Sunday, while will fully covering her head in black for the pedofile Mohammed on Monday.
Posted by: Dopey Clating8616 || 06/17/2007 14:55 Comments || Top||

#18  This is another instance of selfishness and postmodernism attempting to drape itself in religious garb so that some weak bastard can get spiritual satisfaction on the cheap.

Some meme sets cannot be unbundled. The cafeteria approach to religion is one that allows people like this woman to pick and choose those aspects which give her satisfaction without having to make any sacrifices or hard decisions. How could a flock of parishioners respect someone like that?
Posted by: no mo uro || 06/17/2007 15:24 Comments || Top||

#19  Burn her!
Posted by: Natural Law || 06/17/2007 16:07 Comments || Top||

#20  One of the many reasons the Episcopal Church is going down the shitter.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/17/2007 16:59 Comments || Top||

#21  Do Muslims accept Joseph Smith as a prophet?

Just askin.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 06/17/2007 18:42 Comments || Top||

#22  Lord Cthulhu thanks the Seattle Times for calling up another tasty snack.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 06/17/2007 18:54 Comments || Top||

#23  You can always tell a false prophet by the number of wives he has...
Posted by: Dopey Clating8616 || 06/17/2007 19:02 Comments || Top||

#24  Thanks Zoid. Just spent the last hour reading on the Gospel of Barnabas. Pretty clear fraud case which explains why some Muslims would refer to it.
Posted by: Icerigger || 06/17/2007 19:45 Comments || Top||

#25  This is coming at the same time that many parishes are breaking away and asking for episcopal oversight by doctrinally orthodox African bishops. What is left of The Episcopal Church (as it chose to style itself recently, in what can only be called an act of breathtaking pride) is sinking fast to the lowest depths.
Posted by: occasional observer || 06/17/2007 19:48 Comments || Top||

#26  Redding doesn't feel she has to resolve all the contradictions.

People like Rev. Redding who possess the flexibility for such theological gymnastics typically ignore the rigors faced by morally honest individuals who insist upon such old fashioned concepts as reason and intellectual integrity.

"To walk into Al-Islam and be reminded that there are more people of color in the world than white people, that in itself is a relief," she said.

Paging Al Sharpton to the white courtesy phone.

She found the discipline of praying five times a day — one of the five pillars of Islam that all Muslims are supposed to follow — gave her the deep sense of connection with God that she yearned for.

Once you've abandoned intellectual integrity, it's any port in a storm.

Living a life where you're remembering God intentionally, consciously, just changes everything."

I guess she must not have been doing that before. Kinda shows, too.

Friends who didn't know she was practicing Islam told her she glowed.

That's what they say about Ahmadinejad as well.

Muslims regard the Quran as the unadulterated word of God, delivered through the angel Gabriel to Mohammed. While they believe the Torah and the Gospels include revelations from God, they believe those revelations have been misinterpreted or mishandled by humans.

A lot of the mishandling being done by humans of Muslim persuasion.

She does believe that Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected, and acknowledges those beliefs conflict with the teachings of the Quran.

Along with other niggling discrepancies like killing anyone who doesn’t agree with you, chopping off heads, hands and clitties and no exit strategies allowed.

Islam tends to be a little more flexible.

Absolutely, it gives far more reasons for killing just about anyone you want to, including other Muslims, than the rest of this planet’s religions combined.

I'm going to be 100 percent Christian and 100 percent Muslim when I die.

No one can be 200% anything, is she going to clone herself?

"And we desperately need those bridge persons."

So, build a bridge out of her and be done with it.

"I'm a floor wax and a dessert topping."

Ding, ding, ding … we have a winner!

This is another instance of selfishness and postmodernism attempting to drape itself in religious garb so that some weak bastard can get spiritual satisfaction on the cheap.

A good summation. However, this dingbat goes well past religious “cafeteria” models and enters the realm of an “All You Can Eat Believe” theological buffet.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/17/2007 20:02 Comments || Top||

#27  Simple as this:

To be a Christian, you must profess your belief in the divinity of Jesus Christ, and the unity of the Trinity, and be baptized.

Tell that to a Islamist, and you are immediately an apostate - and a "polytheist". There is but one True God, and his Prophet is Allah. That simple.

To be a Muslim you must deny the trinity and the divinity of Christ. To be a Christian you must hold that as a central tenet of your faith.

You cannot be both.
Posted by: OldSpook || 06/17/2007 20:20 Comments || Top||

#28  As a dear friend of mine said upon hearing about this travesty:

"How can you be a Christian and a Moslem at the same time?

Easily - by being false to them BOTH!"
Posted by: occasional observer || 06/17/2007 20:34 Comments || Top||

#29  Perhaps the bishop in Seattle could point out the occasional observers observation of her falseness to both religions? Nah. The bishop is the Rodney King of the Northwest.
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger || 06/17/2007 21:40 Comments || Top||

#30  "Islam doesn't say if you're a Christian, you're not a Muslim," said programming director Ayesha Anderson. "Islam doesn't lay it out like that."

Indeed. Islam says if you're a Christian, you're just a Muslim stubbornly refusing to admit it, and thus subject to punishment until you accept. But Islam also says that a Muslim who chooses Christianity is apostate, and the punishment for apostasy is death. *shrug* A tad disengenuous, the clever Professor the Honourable Reverend the shahida Ann Holmes Redding. I wonder how it feels to know one has in every way possible disappointed one's parents?
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/17/2007 21:40 Comments || Top||



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