Indonesian ex-leader Suharto, 86, has died after suffering multiple organ failure for the second time this month.
He died at 1310 (0610 GMT) after slipping into a coma, doctors said.
During his 32-years in power, the economy thrived, but thousands were killed in the provinces of Papua and Aceh and in East Timor invaded in 1975. Suharto left office in 1998 amid mass protests over corruption and the human rights abuses, but did not stand trial on health grounds. No-one has been punished for the killings.
"Indonesia's second President Haji Muhammad Suharto has passed away at about 1310," senior police officer Major Dicky Sondani told reporters at the Pertamina Hospital in Jakarta. All six of his children were at the hospital. Soldiers and police had to force back crowds of Suharto supporters to allow the ambulance with his body to leave the hospital on his way to his home in central Jakarta, before it is taken to Solo in central Java for the funeral.
The government has announced a week of national mourning. President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono led a televised prayer. "I invite all the people of Indonesia to pray that may the deceased's good deeds and dedication to the nation be accepted by Allah the almighty," he said. "Mr Suharto has done a great service to the nation."
Suharto was rushed to hospital on 4 January suffering from various heart, lung and kidney problems. He had been living quietly in Jakarta since being overthrown during the 1997-1998 Asian financial crisis. He had been in and out of the hospital several times. Although he was accused of embezzling huge sums from state funds during his three decades in power, his lawyers always successfully pleaded that his failing health meant he should not stand trial.
Suharto's rule was marked by rapid economic growth and political stability. Some Indonesians fondly call him the "father of development". But many often found it difficult to pin down what they felt about the man who had towered over their lives for so long, says the BBC's Jonathan Head. They certainly feared him, our correspondent says. After all, the bloodshed which accompanied his rise to power, after a mysterious coup attempt in 1965 which he blamed on Indonesia's then-powerful Communist Party, was on a scale matched only in Cambodia in this region, he says.
Within the space of a few months at least half a million people were slaughtered in anti-communist pogroms that, at the very least, Suharto and the military tacitly encouraged says our correspondent. The trauma of that period scars Indonesia to this day, and was a key tool in Suharto's armoury. After his death was announced, Suharto's eldest daughter, Siti Hariyanti Rukmana, told reporters: "We ask that if he had any faults, please forgive them... may he be absolved of all his mistakes."
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"At last! You had me waiting, human. And now, old man, I get to eat your soul."
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Our top story tonight! Our top story tonight!
President Haji Muhammad Suharto is holding on in his valiant fight to remain dead. President Haji Muhammad Suharto is holding on in his valiant fight to remain dead.
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Has anyone checked on the body lately? Has the body been moved to the morgue yet?
It's my understanding that they start to move again anywhere from an hour after death onwards. Just look at Fidel.
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Egypt will begin taking bids in February to build the country's first nuclear reactor, the state-run news agency reported Saturday.
Great idea. You can't even control your border with the Gazooks.
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak announced plans for the nuclear power project last year, saying it would diversify Egypt's energy resources and preserve the country's oil and gas. He said the reactor would be for peaceful, power-generating purposes only and that Egypt would not seek a nuclear bomb. The project is expected to cost between $1.5 billion and $1.8 billion.
"The type of reactor and its constructor will be chosen according to international safety standards and reputation as well as costs," MENA quoted Abdel Mohsen Morsi Metwalli, director of nuclear engineering at Alexandria University, as saying. "The offer is open to all countries."
After Mubarak's announcement in October, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the United States would not object to the program as long as Egypt adhered to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and International Atomic Energy Agency guidelines.
Earlier this month, Egypt said it plans to build the reactor at El-Dabaa on the Mediterranean coast west of Alexandria. Electricity Minister Hassan Yunis has said the project could take 10 years to develop.
During a December visit to Egypt, French President Nicholas Sarkozy expressed France's willingness to assist Egypt in the nuclear field.
I'll bet he did. The French have always been willing to help Arab thugs gain access to nuclear technology.
Egypt has conducted nuclear experiments for research purposes on a very small scale for the past four decades at a reactor northeast of Cairo, but they have not included the key process of uranium enrichment, the IAEA says.
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Invade Iran, take theirs, we'll applaud.
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TOPIX > A NEW FRANCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST: FORGET GLORY. Sarkozy's France prefers the DIVERSITY SCALPEL, via multinational multi-ethnic subtle politics; NOT the DEMOCRACY BROADSWORD of overt French = Euro-centric superiority as in France's past.
ALso from TOPIX > FREEREPUBLIC > OFFICIAL:IRAN HAS MADE OVER 300 TONES OF UF6 [nucmats] AT FACILITY.
People were burned and hacked to death in ethnic clashes in Kenya's western Naivasha town, the latest flashpoint of violence over President Mwai Kibaki's re-election.
Police stood by helplessly, apparently overwhelmed, as gangs of up to 100 people from Kibaki's Kikuyu tribe set ablaze the homes of Luo rivals in the centre of the town about 55 miles north-west of Nairobi, the capital.
A reporter counted seven bodies of people hacked to death or burned alive in their homes.
At least 46 cases were filed against journalists and publishing houses in different courts last year, as compared to 13 in 2006. According to statistics released last week by the Public Persecution, of 46 cases investigations were carried out in 19 cases, 16 cases were rejected by public persecutors concerned, one was postponed and three were reported against anonymous suspects.
A report by the Bahrain Centre for Human Rights expressed concerns over the decline in Press freedom and hoped that 2008 would be a better year for the Press. The report voiced concern over a three-fold increase in legal cases against journalists and said the situation violated the World Declaration of Human Rights and International Convention for Civil and Political Rights ratified by the Bahrain government in 2006.
The report, which was also sent to Minister of Information Jihad Bukamal, recommended to the government to improve Press freedom by protecting the rights of journalists and amend the Press laws to remove all clauses imposing imprisonment on journalists.
The Bahrain Journalists Association has been fighting for the amendment to the law to protect journalists through negotiations with government officials, lawmakers and politicians.
As many as 20,000 jobs in London's financial district are likely to be wiped out due to the financial crisis, a survey showed on Sunday.
The Sunday Telegraph reported that Experian, which provides data and forecasts to government and private bodies, had slashed its predictions for job growth in the City of London and Canary Wharf to a fall of up to 5 percent from its previous forecast of flat net employment this year.
Experian expects between 10,000 and 20,000 jobs to be lost over the year, with the majority going from the financial sector.
With up to 400,000 people employed in London's financial district, a fall of this scale could severely affect the economy, dragging commercial property prices down and hitting related industries such as IT and telecoms, it said.
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With up to 400,000 people employed in London's financial district, a fall of this scale could severely affect the economy, dragging commercial property prices down and hitting related industries such as IT and telecoms, it said
Far more likely it would produce opporunities for individuals
Romanian gypsy villages. Same pattern as for the african child traffik posted earlier, the third world (in this case, the third world inside Romania) spreading to the the first world through mass migrations.
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The journey from Romania to Britain has become one of the most lucrative moves for those leaving the Eastern European country's poverty-stricken villages.
Since the former Communist nation joined the EU in January last year, allowing its citizens to come here freely, thousands of people have made the 1,500-mile trip to Britain.
Many of those have been Roma gipsies who have embarked on a well rewarded life of crime as modern-day Fagins.
They have sent much of their money back home, transforming their villages where horses and carts were once the only form of transport to places with expensive cars and glitzy mansions.
Hundreds of these Romanians have settled in Slough. They travel overland on buses to Victoria Coach Station in London. From there it is just a £3 bus ride along the motorway.
Ten child slaves freed as police swoop on Romanian gangs behind £1bn pickpocket and begging crimewave.
Entire villages in Romania are being emptied, and while some go to other Home County towns, most head for Slough.
By the beginning of May last year, 88 Romanian gipsy children, apparently without parents, had turned up at the town's civic centre. Some were only ten, others in their early teens were pregnant or holding babies.
Under British laws all unaccompanied minors - wherever they are from - have to be cared for by the council and given benefits until they reach 18. By the end of last year, the total cost to Slough of looking after the young arrivals was nearly £1million.
On one visit to Slough last summer, we found an extended family of 100 members - many under 18 - who had arrived from a Romanian gipsy village called Tandarei, 90 miles from the capital Bucharest.
The head of the family, 45-year-old Ion, said that they survived on state help, selling the Big Issue and begging for money after washing car windows at London road junctions.
Dan Cristescu is not surprised by this. He is a trade union president in Romania and was sent to study at Ruskin College, Oxford, under the old Communist regime. For six years, on his return to Bucharest, he ran a committee to help Roma families go to school, train for work and stop begging. He likes them a lot.
"But it is only fair to say they have been a problem for us and now it is yours," he says.
"Britain is naive to believe that the gipsies - which is what they insist on calling themselves because it means "free man" in their language - will change their ways overnight.
Cristescu believes they are aware of Britain's generous benefits system. "Since the early 19th century when they came to Europe from India, they have lived by asking others for money," he explains.
"They are talented musicians and metalworkers, but mostly they like to live by begging. It is their tradition and some are very rich people."
Cristescu's words may sound harsh yet they ring true. Last year there were police reports of organised gangs of Roma boys, some just ten, begging in Walthamstow, East London. They were accompanied by pregnant women and watched over by male minders who regularly collected the takings from the children.
You only have to walk the streets of Tandarei, one of the biggest gipsy villages in Romania, to understand what the problems are for Britain.
Marin Octavious, 39, lives there with his wife and ten children. He is proud to be one of the elders of the gipsy community.
In 2002 he smuggled himself and his family in a freight train across Europe, a journey he says which meant hiding in darkness in a crate for nearly a week.
He would have stayed if he could. He applied for political asylum, citing racial discrimination in Romania because he is a gipsy, but his claim was rejected and he was told to leave. Surprisingly, he did.
"I liked life in your country," he says. "Your government gave my family a flat and £720 a month in benefits. They were good times. But I couldn't find work because I only spoke little English. Like other gipsy families living there, we earned money by begging."
Since Marin returned three years ago, 600 people have left Tandarei, which once had a population of 12,000. One in eight men, many of them from the gipsy community, are without jobs in the town where a horse and wooden cart is the normal method of transport.
As Vasile Sava, the town's mayor says: "Tandarei is in decline. Here families get £5 a month in benefits, even if they are large.
"In Britain they get more help from the state, that is why they go there."
Despite the poverty, there are signs that British money is flowing back to Tandarei. Houses are being built, some with shiny tin roofs, by families who have relatives in Slough and the rest of England. Occasionally, among the horse carts can be seen a sports car, even a new Mercedes.
Stan Bitlan, Tandarei's chief of police, explains: "Those who have gone get money in three ways: stealing, begging, and benefits.
"They send it home to finance new homes, perks they could never have afforded back here."
He has been visited twice by Scotland Yard officers asking for advice on how to tackle the rising Romanian crime wave stemming from Slough.
In a spirit of co-operation, the Romanian police sent four detectives to help with yesterday's dawn raids to free the child slaves - who are driven into London each day to beg - and arrest 20 adults for questioning.
The amount of Romanian crime in Britain has rocketed by more than 700 per cent in the last year. As a senior Scotland Yard officer dealing with child protection commented recently: "You cannot expect foreigners coming here to leave their cultures behind.
"If it is normal to send children out begging or stealing, then they will do so here too."
The £50-a-head bus service from Bucharest to London is thriving. Unlike taking a cheap flight, the travellers can bring all their possessions with them. No wonder most of the tickets are one-way and the bus is nearly always full.
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One of my favorite books when I was in elementary school.
Lest we fergit, PRAVDA > At least under COMMUNISM, Soviet = Russ citizens were permanently poor but OPTIMISTIC. *All together now, wid feeling - "HOORAY/YAY"! WENDY's
Commer > "VER-R-RY NI-I-ICE" [clap hands].
MIAMI (AP) - A Venezuelan man pleaded guilty Friday in a scheme to cover up the source of $800,000 in a suitcase seized in Argentina, where it was allegedly sent by Venezuelans as a donation to Cristina Fernandez's presidential campaign. Moises Maionica, 36, admitted to acting as an unregistered foreign government agent in the U.S. He could be sentenced to up to 15 years for this and a related conspiracy count, but is cooperating with prosecutors and thus could get a reduced sentence.
U.S. officials said Maionica and four others tried to hide the Venezuelan source of the cash, which was carried into Argentina in August by dual U.S.-Venezuelan citizen Guido Antonini Wilson, now wanted by Argentina on money laundering charges. Instead of sending Antonini Wilson back to Argentina, U.S. investigators wired him with a recording device in Florida and gathered evidence against the alleged Venezuelan agents who pressured him to conceal the money's source, according to court documents.
Antonini was apparently a last-minute passenger on a plane chartered by Venezuelan oil officials and was asked by one of them to carry the cash-laden suitcase through customs in Buenos Aires, prosecutors said in court Friday.
Maionica admitted arranging calls between Antonini and a senior official in Venezuela's intelligence agency, which the FBI said it recorded. He also acknowledged that he met with Antonini and the other suspected agents: Venezuelans Carlos Kauffmann, 35, Franklin Duran, 40, and Uruguayan Rodolfo Wanseele, 40. All have pleaded not guilty and face up to 10 years in prison and $250,000 in fines if convicted at trial, now set for March. Another Venezuelan charged in the case, Antonio Jose Canchica Gomez, has not been found. Maionica's sentencing is scheduled for April 4.
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So.... um where's that 200K? You just know there's and extra 200K somewhere.
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Compare wid TOPIX > LEE MYUNG-BAK HAS MAFIA-STYLE CAPABILITY. SOKOR Radicals and Progressives fear CONTRUCTION MODELING, lots of [covert?]GOVT CONNECTIONS, and COLLUSIONS???
Russia won the right on Friday to route a major gas supply route to Europe through its ally Serbia, a move analysts described as marking a Kremlin victory in a "pipeline war" with the European Union.
As Russia continues its long-term plan to make the EU dependent enough on Russian natural gas to ensure the EU will follow the Russians lead in foreign policy.
The gas agreement, signed in the Kremlin before President Vladimir Putin and visiting Serbian leaders, alarmed the United States because it increased Moscow's control over energy supplies to Europe and could undermine a rival EU project.
Strong Russian opposition to independence for the Serbian province of Kosovo was a key bargaining chip in the agreement for Serbia to join the South Stream gas pipeline. Belgrade also agreed to sell a majority stake in Serbia's oil monopoly NIS to Russian gas giant Gazprom at a favorable price.
Whatever one thinks of Putin's morals, he's a shrewd businessman ...
South Stream is a 10 billion euro ($14.65 billion) gas transit project organized jointly by Gazprom and Italian energy giant ENI to bring Siberian gas to Europe via the Black Sea.
"Our close political relations were today converted into economic results," Putin's chosen successor, First Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, told reporters. "This is a great breakthrough."
At the signing, Putin reiterated Moscow's strong backing for Belgrade's campaign against independence for Kosovo, which the European Union broadly supports. Serbia could count on Russia as a reliable friend and partner, he added.
According to Rudenko, spacecraft with pilots Ledovskikh, Shaborin and Mitkov at the controls were launched from the Kapustin Yar cosmodrome (in the Astrakhan region) in 1957, 1958 and 1959. "All three pilots died during the flights, and their names were never officially published," Rudenko said. He explained that all these pilots took part in so-called sub- orbital flights, i.e., their goal was not to orbit around the earth, which Gagarin later did, but make a parabola-shaped flight
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This info has been floating around the 'conspiracy circuit' for about 40+ years. Amateur radio operators claiming to hear voices calling out (in Russian) for help, etc.
Oh, the joy of multicultural societies!
Hundreds of young children are being sold and "trafficked" to Britain from Africa to be exploited as modern-day slaves, it can be revealed. The illicit trade in children - sold by their parents, some while still babies, to criminal gangs and people traffickers - has been uncovered by a Sunday Telegraph investigation.
An undercover reporter was offered several children for sale by their parents in Nigeria: two boys aged three and five for £5,000, or £2,500 for one, and a 10-month-old baby for £2,000. Teenage girls - including some still pregnant - were willing to sell their babies for less than £1,000. One international trafficker, tracked down in Lagos, claimed to be buying up to 500 children a year.
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"traffickers' promises of "a better life" for their children"
Depending on what they are being 'sold' from, they may have 'a better life' as domestic slaves in London.
I wonder though, who is doing the 'buying'; hypocritical liberal British elite? Or members of a sub-culture that has never even pretended to give up acceptance of slavery - or several other practices of the seventh century?
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Most likely, it's the sub-culture. Like african organized prostitution, obviously, or domestic slavery (of all the cases publicized in France, I seem to recall only one with an actual ethnic frenhc as the abuser), it's almost always people from the old country localised in the West using people fresh from the old country.
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Child slavery, domestic or sexual, is rampant in africa IIUC; this is just the ongoing overlapping of the third world onto the first world, as mass migrations affects populations balance, I'd say.
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very sad. Welfare has become a very negative force in society.
Welfare can be justified for a cohesive society, though sustainability and long term social effects are an another matter.
When it is being siphoned away by (ever growing, thanks to relentless immigration) minorities that are at best indifferent to the host society, generally speaking, then it becomes very harmful to the collectivity at large, since it is abused and is a great incentive for yet more immigration, which will further taxes the system, until...
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I'm waiting for the first country to say "Right! That's enough. Immigrants out--the lot of you, right now, with only the clothes on your back. Be gone in 48 hours or you'll find yourselves in jail breaking rocks."
When that happens, and it will, the first country will receive a hell of a lot of opprobrium, which they'll cheerfully dismiss. Then they'll be followed by a lot of other countries doing the same thing, just more quietly.
BERLIN - The Serbian Orthodox bishop of Kosovo Saturday urged Germany not to recognize the breakaway Serbian province if it decides to declare its unilateral independence. Radisavljevic Artemije, the outspoken bishop of Rasja and Prizren, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur DPA he had held confidential talks with officials in Berlin to warn them of the seriousness of the situation in the breakaway Serbian province. The situation in Kosovo is very serious, Artemije said.
Might it have anything to do with how the Serbs and Muslims have been thumping each other for centuries?
Kosovos leaders announced their plans to declare independence after the end of Serbias presidential elections. The run-off between incumbent Boris Tadic and his nationalist competitor Tomislav Nikolic is scheduled for February 3.
Artemije said the aim of his diplomatic mission had been to show that independence for Kosovo would be in violation of international law. Everything must be done to bring about an improvement of the situation and not a deterioraton, he said, noting that 150 Serbian Orthodox churches had been destroyed in the province in the past nine years through what he termed acts of terrorism.
I believe it is in the interest of everyone that we seek a solution, one that remains durable for a very long time, he said.
Here's a permanent solution: Serbs and Albanians leave each other alone.
The fact that Kosovos population was 90-per-cent Albanian was no reason why the province should be wrenched from Serbia, which was now a democratic state, the bishop said. The provinces demographic status had not come about through a natural development, but as a result of mistakes made over the centuries.
Something some of your countrymen tried to do something about ...
Serbs see Kosovo as the cradle of their history and religious culture.
And they never forgot ...
James Jatras, the president of the Washington-based American Council for Kosovo, who accompanied Artemije, said the Berlin visit was part of a tour through London, Rome, Moscow, Brussels and Ottawa. We are in Germany to appeal to the policy-makers to take another look at the Kosovo question, and to look first of all at what the consequences will be if the Kosovo government goes ahead and declares independence, he said.
Jatras slammed the administration of President George W Bush, saying that until recently only a small number of officials in Washington had given serious thought to the Kosovo issue.
How many do we need? This is a European problem. Go talk to the EU.
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A day after the resignation of Prime Minister Romano Prodi, political leaders started debating whether to hold immediate elections or first fix an electoral law blamed for the current instability.
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There's a 219-year-old system I would advise them to switch to. It has proven to be much more stable than the Italian system.
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Wow, Jablow, you used "stable" and "Italian system" in the same sentance! Very good, indeed!
Larger margin than expected: Obama 53%, Clinton 27%, Silky 19%.
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With $100 Million now reportedly under his belt from contributors, the epiphany I now have indicates his support must be far above just black folk; is all this a 'fairy tale' or not? I wish I knew where America is taking us, on this 'ride'??
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Good! I want to see these two in a desperately bitter, wildly bloody knock-down, drag-out fight right up to the nominations. I want them sticking barbed, cyanide-soaked knives in each other's backs right up to the hilt multiple times and twisting them HARD.
We saw eight years of BJ's "politics of personal destruction" when he was in the Oral Office. Now it's time to see Obama get it up close and personal, sans Vaseline, while he does the Jesse-the-Jack/Rev. Al shakedown on the HillBillies. I want the winner of this fight to come out of it so badly damaged that they couldn't beat Ron Paul for the Presidency, much less any of the other Reps. I also want to see the loser's supporters so disgusted they won't even think of voting for the winner in the general election.
It's Dem-on-Dem, red-on-red, and I truly hope they rip great bloody chunks out of each other. It couldn't happen to two more corrupt, despicable, traitorous, America-hating bastards. They, and the foul assemblage of morons and criminals known as the Democrat Party who spawned and support them, deserve every pain-filled, suffering minute of it.
It's gladiators in the Colosseum again, and I've got a cheer for them: GO HILL-KILL OBAMA! GO OBAMA-KILL BILL HILL! GO EDWARDS-KILL THEM BOTH! DEMMMMMMMMMS SUCK!!!
Meanwhile, I LOVE IT! MORE POPCORN, PLEASE--LOTS OF BUTTER, TOO!
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Team America, World Police...Is that what you're banking on Ho Chi? Sounds like you're sitting in the 'cat-bird' seat when it comes to well being! No problem, McCain has already indicated he has no problem with keeping the valiant troops in the lions's den for another 50 years or so; and with the Chicoms poised to umbrella their hegemony in the orient...you may even profit...wink...wink!
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...Hillary ain't givin' in, not by a long shot. As has been mentioned before, she's got a secret weapon in the form of the superdelegates. On top of that, she's now pushing hard to get the Florida delegations reseated, in direct defiance of the DNC's directives. From what I'm reading, THAT may be what finally turns the Donk masses against her, but I have a feeling that won't even stop her.
BTW, it appears here in SC the African-American vote went something like 80% for Obama....
Mike
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They will be reseted Mike, it's a done deal.
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Hillary will get the nomination through smokey, back room brass-knuckle politics.
Look at what she has accomplished so far: Nevada: They knew Obama would win, so the power players assured Obama was not even get on the ballot. Good trick and no delegates for Obama in Nevada. Same in Florida. If Obama wins, he will be denied the delegates. I would imagine if Hillary wins, they will somehow find a way to make them count.
Obama denied delegates in Nevada and Floriduh and then there are the super delegates. They counted them ahead of time and you, the voters are a mere nuisance. Unless one or two states unexpectedly select Obama it was done before it started.
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all true, except Obama ended up with 13 of the 25 NV delegates, IIRC
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NV Donks have a caucus system, not a primary
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I'm not so sure the NYT is scared of McCain. Worst case, they get a moderate to bash if he's elected. More likely, they get Clinton elected. Or switch to Obama after he's nominated.
Romney or Giuliani, now THEY probably do care the Timesers. ;-)
**Clarification** of Statement by Nevada Democratic Party Chair Jill Derby
(Las Vegas, NV) "The Nevada Democratic Party and its officials have taken great effort to maintain our neutrality in the presidential campaign and the integrity of our process. Today, two out of three Nevadans who caucused chose a Democrat instead of a Republican for president. That is an overwhelming majority vote for a new direction. Just like in Iowa, what was awarded today were delegates to the County Convention, of which Senator Clinton won the majority. No national convention delegates were awarded. That said, if the delegate preferences remain unchanged between now and April 2008, the calculations of national convention delegates being circulated by the Associated Press are correct. We look forward to our county and state conventions where we will choose the delegates for the nominee that Nevadans support."
I think the point is that no delegate awards are final until after the county and state conventions meet and vote.
Also, the AP has revised its numbers to match those for CNN and NBC, saying 13 for Obama, 12 for Clinton, but again, the party says there will be no delegate awards until April and it's far too early to say what the final numbers will be.
Bottom line is that the dem party is very much decided in smokey back rooms by the superdelegates who are the old money and power in the Dem party.
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Snakehead Carville has been a paid commentator at CNN (yep, the Clinton News Network, go figure). Obama's campaign requested demanded that he take a pass til the General Election, since he's a HRC campaign advisor. Expect that won't be the sitrep once the General Campaign is on. CNN will go 24/7 for HRC
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Representative Dennis J. Kucinich has decided to end his long-shot presidential bid, focusing on a contested race in his Ohio district.
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Today on NPR (other radio channels in the car had ads on ...)
I heard some Democratic media droid say "now that he's out we can tell this story: In the debates all the candidates could take time for a glass of water or a quick bathroom break. Denis would walk to the edge of the stage and neck with his pretty wife - no more then necking... a deep clutch... we kept the cameras off it but honestly it unnerved the other candidates."
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It's been a very soft '2 by 4' thats been 'clucking' Kucinich on the head, up to this point; however he has finally seen the light...of not being loved...but for the lovely wife atleast!
KOLKATA: After bird flu, a mysterious disease has hit the fish population in large parts of South 24 Parganas in West Bengal. A few hundred dead fish were seen floating in ponds in Nepalgunj, Julpia, Baruipur, Bhangore, Bankeswar and other areas of the district. Popular varieties like 'rohu', 'katla', 'mrigel' and 'magur' are among the worst affected.
Chief medical officer of South 24 Parganas, Sacchidananda Sarkar, said an alert has been sounded and steps are being taken to find out the nature of the disease. Experts said the bird flu virus does not affect fish. Fishermen, however, said it was posing a grave threat to their livelihood.
Adhir Makhal, 75, engaged in pisciculture for decades, said that he had suffered huge loses due to the unknown disease which left hundreds of fish in his two-bigha pond dead.
"I had invested Rs 60,000 with the hope that I would earn at least Rs 1 lakh. But, now it appears that I have lost everything," Makhal said. He may be mistaken about bird flu not affecting fish. It was long ago discovered in fresh water fish preyed on by water birds. I certainly hope that bird flu doesn't force the world to become vegetarian.
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I seem to recall the Bangladeshi well water was very high in arsenic or something. So the clean, fresh water was poisoning the villagers, instead of them dying of diseases from dirty water. Could that have an effect on the fish? How often does that part of the world have fish die-offs, under normal circumstances?
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
Indonesian ex-leader Suharto, 86, has died after suffering multiple organ failure for the second time this month.
The government has announced a week of national mourning. President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono led a televised prayer. "I invite all the people of Indonesia to pray that may the deceased's good deeds and dedication to the nation be accepted by Allah the almighty," he said. "Mr Suharto has done a great service to the nation."
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Egypt will begin taking bids in February to build the country's first nuclear reactor, the state-run news agency reported Saturday.
People were burned and hacked to death in ethnic clashes in Kenya's western Naivasha town, the latest flashpoint of violence over President Mwai Kibaki's re-election.
MIAMI (AP) - A Venezuelan man pleaded guilty Friday in a scheme to cover up the source of $800,000 in a suitcase seized in Argentina, where it was allegedly sent by Venezuelans as a donation to Cristina Fernandez's presidential campaign. 
BERLIN - The Serbian Orthodox bishop of Kosovo Saturday urged Germany not to recognize the breakaway Serbian province if it decides to declare its unilateral independence. Radisavljevic Artemije, the outspoken bishop of Rasja and Prizren, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur DPA he had held confidential talks with officials in Berlin to warn them of the seriousness of the situation in the breakaway Serbian province. The situation in Kosovo is very serious, Artemije said.
KOLKATA: After bird flu, a mysterious disease has hit the fish population in large parts of South 24 Parganas in West Bengal. A few hundred dead fish were seen floating in ponds in Nepalgunj, Julpia, Baruipur, Bhangore, Bankeswar and other areas of the district. Popular varieties like 'rohu', 'katla', 'mrigel' and 'magur' are among the worst affected.
