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Bangladesh
Hasina, Khaleda exchange pleasantries
Awami League (AL) President Sheikh Hasina and BNP Chairperson Khaleda Zia exchanged greetings at a reception on the occasion of the Armed Forces Day at Senakunja at Dhaka cantonment yesterday evening.
Posted by: Fred || 11/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Caribbean-Latin America
Venezuelan oil falls to lowest price in 22 months
Prices for Venezuelan oil reached their lowest level in 22 months Friday as fears of a global recession stalled demand, slashing the main source of cash for President Hugo Chavez's hefty state spending.

Venezuelan heavy crude dropped to an average $40.68 for the week ending Friday, less than a third of its $129.54 July peak. Venezuelan oil requires extensive refining, and so is significantly cheaper than the light, sweet crude commonly used as a benchmark for oil. Prices for that oil dropped to $48.25 a barrel Friday, their lowest level since May 2005.

Oil makes up 94 percent of Venezuelan exports and funds half the government's budget. The legislature last month backed a $77.8 billion budget for 2009 that assumes average oil prices of $60 per barrel. But Finance Minister Ali Rodriguez in September said that $60-a-barrel oil could force the government to tighten spending.
2M BBL/day @ $40/BBL is $29B. You're a little short Hugo, but enough about your stature.
Chavez has insisted his government is prepared for a price slide, saying Venezuela could tap $39 billion in foreign currency reserves or more than $30 billion in slush funds to withstand the downturn.
Except Hugo and his cronies have stolen most of it or given it away to other Socialist paradises.
Posted by: ed || 11/22/2008 11:13 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well if that $69 Billion is in any kind of investment vehicle, it's prolly worth about $40 Billion now. It would be sweet to see him blow away his entire reserves on one year. He's screwed unless something big happens to the oil market, and I don't see that in the short bet.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/22/2008 11:53 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: DMFD || 11/22/2008 13:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Tha farther oil slides, the less Ugo shoots his fat mouth off.

Faster, please.
Posted by: Mike N. || 11/22/2008 13:18 Comments || Top||

#4  and he's promised off a good share of the exports to his socialist comrades at below market (near free) rates to buy prestige and perceived power. Nice job, dickhead. I see a crackdown and a backlash coup in two years. Hope he tastes the tank treads
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 13:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Nah. He'll suicide by shooting himself 27 times with an AK-47 (pausing only once to reload....)
Posted by: Pappy || 11/22/2008 14:39 Comments || Top||

#6  We'll see. Cross you're fingers, the elections of the 23rd will pretty much determine the fate of the 21st Century Socialist Supermo.

Posted by: .5MT || 11/22/2008 15:54 Comments || Top||

#7  Oil makes up 94 percent of Venezuelan exports and funds half the government's budget.

Which begs the question - what makes up the other half? So Hugo will have to raise taxes as the entire world enters an economic downturn - that'll be interesting to see.
Posted by: Jeremiah Thaise1218 || 11/22/2008 23:27 Comments || Top||


Chavez pulls out all the tricks for upcoming vote
Venezuela's "Maximum Leader" President Hugo Chavez is acting as if he were fighting for his political life.

In the run-up to Sunday's regional and municipal elections, the 54-year-old former paratrooper is waging a massive political blitz replete with promises, pronouncements and threats. He has banned some 300 opposition politicians from running, released secretly recorded wiretapped conversations of others and resorted to outright intimidation calling dissidents in his own party "filthy traitors," "sell-outs" and "counter-revolutionaries," while branding opposition politicians "conspirators," and " vile imbeciles."

He has threatened to put anyone who questions the victory of his own candidates into jail and vowed to put tanks into the streets of states that end up in the hands of opponents.
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Posted by: Steve White || 11/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In the run-up to Sunday's regional and municipal elections, the 54-year-old former paratrooper former wardhealer is waging a massive political blitz replete with promises, pronouncements and threats. He has banned some 300 opposition politicians from running, released secretly recorded wiretapped conversations of others and resorted to outright intimidation calling dissidents in his own party "filthy traitors," "sell-outs" and "counter-revolutionaries," while branding opposition politicians "conspirators," and " vile imbeciles."

Prelude to 2012? Got to take a note from true socialist everywhere.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/22/2008 8:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Watch Zulia... Oppo's win if they can claim 6 provinces. I dunno, this is a real test of the residual democracy. If you gottem... pray 'em.

Posted by: .5MT || 11/22/2008 8:42 Comments || Top||

#3  crowds of red-shirted supporters, who respond by shouting "Hey, ho, Chavez won't go!"

Why would they shout that in English? It doesn't rhyme in Spanish. Does anyone else find that to be curious?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/22/2008 12:10 Comments || Top||

#4  At any rate, Chavez sounds like he's coming to the only end that a tyrant can have.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/22/2008 12:11 Comments || Top||

#5  The thing is, socialism ALWAYS fails. A market of millions of individual decisions always works better than a centrally controlled market ... ALWAYS. Even the Chinese have learned that lesson.
Posted by: crosspatch || 11/22/2008 17:16 Comments || Top||

#6  But we believe, crosspatch! If only the right people get in power, it will run, and we will have equality up the a$$.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/22/2008 21:07 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
RUSSIA WANTS NEW AIRBASE IN TAJIKISTAN
In Tajikistan, Moscow is now showing increasing interest in the Ayni military airfield, 15 miles (25 km) west of Dushanbe, as a possible base for elements of the Russian air force (VVS). Talks are underway between the defense ministries of both countries, exploring the terms of use for the Russian air force. Dushanbe would prefer joint use of the airfield, but Moscow reportedly wants sole use, based on an offer to invest $5 million to complete construction work at Ayni (Nezavisimaya Gazeta, October 28). If Moscow succeeds in securing the exclusive use of Ayni for its air force, this will be a departure from the role and function of Russian air force deployments in Central Asia, since the base at Kant in the Kyrgyz Republic forms the air support component of the Collective Rapid Deployment Forces of the Collective Security Treaty Organization CSTO.

Speculation over the future of Ayni, which fell into disuse after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, has grown since India invested heavily in upgrading the runway and expanded hangers, which some thought was a precursor to the deployment of India's air force in Tajikistan. There has, in fact, been considerable interest in the possible use of the facility, reportedly from the United States and NATO, particularly France. The French examined Ayni as an alternative to the capital Dushanbe for its Mirage fighter jets, which support antiterrorist operations in Afghanistan.
So is this a counter to India's interest in the region, a way to pressure the Indians to fork over the money for the Gorshkov, or a way for Putin to put pressure on us in Afghanistan and Pak-land?
Posted by: 3dc || 11/22/2008 13:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Interesting. After India refurbished the base and stationed helicopters there, Russia wants them out?
Posted by: john frum || 11/22/2008 13:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Rahmon is Moscow's lacky. He will bend over and take whatever Putin wants to stick in him. Why doesn't Moscow re-annex Tajikistan and help feed their starving freezing people? Is that too much to ask in return for using it as their military base?
Posted by: Threlbic || 11/22/2008 20:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Why doesn't Moscow re-annex Tajikistan and help feed their starving freezing people? Is that too much to ask in return for using it as their military base?

Not if they can use the base without doing it.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/22/2008 23:13 Comments || Top||

#4  What would happen if the HIndu crossed the mountains? Ever been done?
Posted by: Jeremiah Thaise1218 || 11/22/2008 23:23 Comments || Top||


Europe
Italy: Over 569 Ostrogoths Avars Gepids illegal immigrants arrive on island
(AKI) - A total of 569 illegal immigrants have landed on Italy's southernmost island of Lampedusa on Friday, aboard four boats. The fourth and latest arrival of 200 immigrants on Friday was intercepted by Italian naval authorities 26 nautical miles off Lampedusa.

Coastguard early on Friday intercepted the first boat with nine illegals on board after a tip-off from inhabitants of the tiny island. An hour later, an Italian tax police patrol boat reached the second people smugglers' boat with 294 people on board, some 10 nautical miles south of Lampedusa, and accompanied it into port. The second boat's passengers included 18 women and 21 minors.

A third boat with 66 illegal immigrants on board including eight women. After preliminary health checks, the illegal immigrants were taken to Lampedusa's identification and expulsion centre.

Lampedusa is closer to Africa than the European continent and a favourite drop-off point for the people smugglers. Also, Italy has the European Union's longest coastline - 4,500 kilometres - making it difficult to police and a preferred destination for migrants.

Most of the people-smuggling boats set sail from North Africa. But the majority of illegal migrants (63 percent) enter Italy by land or plane, according to the Interior Ministry.

The would-be migrants usually travel aboard people smugglers' boats, typically paying thousands of dollars for their passage. Scores drown or die of dehydration, hunger and/heatstroke on the perilous journey.
Posted by: Fred || 11/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Politix
Court Rules Cops Can Carry Guns ... Nationwide!
A ruling on a case from South Dakota -- where off-duty law enforcement officers were criminally charged for carrying guns despite the authority to do so under the federal 'Law Enforcement Officer's Safety Act of 2004' (LEOSA) -- has confirmed that all qualified off-duty and retired law enforcement are allowed, by federal law, to carry a concealed gun for personal self-defense irrespective of state law.

The federal law supersedes the crazy, confusing and often conflicted state and local laws that limit legitimate self-defense. Law Enforcement Alliance of America's Executive Director, Jim Fotis said, "When LEAA co-authored the original draft of what became affectionately known as 'National Cop Carry' back in the early 1990's, I knew it would save cops' lives and give those who choose to resist violent criminals a fighting chance. In 2004 I shook President Bush's hand after he signed our bill into law and rejoiced that our fight -- for more than a decade -- was finally over!"

The local prosecutor's apparent effort to challenge the federal law, and send a message to all in law enforcement not to carry a gun for self-defense in South Dakota, was soundly rejected! Thankfully, after careful review, the gun charges against the officers were dismissed. "The Judge's crystal clear and unambiguous legal opinion should be required reading for every prosecutor in the nation so that no other law enforcement professionals, active or retired, have to endure what those officers and agents have endured in South Dakota," declared Carl Rowan, LEAA's Vice President.

Robert Van Norman and Kenneth Orrock, Attorneys for the officers, said "We are pleased with the court's decision, as it reaffirms the intent of the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act and in effect will protect law enforcement officers and our communities. The law enforcement community should find comfort that LEOSA has been properly applied in this case."

The Law Enforcement Alliance of America, Inc., (LEAA) is the nation's largest not for profit, non-partisan coalition of law enforcement professionals, crime victims, and concerned citizens dedicated to making America safer.
Posted by: tipper || 11/22/2008 11:01 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That's nice--how about the rest of us? That's the next step.

As long as my driver's license is good in any state of the Union, so should my CCL be.
Posted by: Dar || 11/22/2008 13:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Dar: One day the country will come back to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The 2nd Amendment is an individual and inalienable right. The Bill of Rights says nothing about rights beginning and ending at State borders.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/22/2008 16:41 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks this is wrong.

Read Peels nine principles of policing, and you will see that the police and the public should be the same.

Special privileges for police members is NOT the answer.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 11/22/2008 22:01 Comments || Top||


As bad as it gets
Posted by: tipper || 11/22/2008 02:19 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "nancy boys" in the lib media? I say they're pussies, and Davis Shuster is one of the worst. What an incompetent pissant, but typical for MSNBC
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 8:16 Comments || Top||

#2  WKRP classic

only missing the best line at the end: "as God is my witness, I thought Turkeys could fly"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 8:25 Comments || Top||

#3  That episode is seared seared into my memory.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/22/2008 8:33 Comments || Top||

#4  What I saw in the background was a young man making an honest living for his family. I salute him. Pass that drumstick and the cranberries if you will please.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/22/2008 8:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Looks like the folks at MSNBC don't have a clue as to how they appear to heart land folks. Otherwise, I can't imagine that they would eagerly present themselves to so much ridicule from so many Americans. Not a clue. Out of touch is an understatement.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 11/22/2008 11:33 Comments || Top||

#6  And this is the same American media that was complaining that they could not show American combat dead and wounded?
Posted by: Milton Fandango || 11/22/2008 11:34 Comments || Top||

#7  "Alarmed MSNBC host David Shuster". Indeed. The guy has prolly never been outside Manhattan where everything is delivered all cleaned up and packaged in cellophane. He wouldn't last a day on a farm. All of these media types should have to spend at least a year as interns in small towns in flyover states.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 11/22/2008 11:42 Comments || Top||

#8  The guy's doing a job I certainly wouldn't want to do. And putting a little coin in his pocket...Harumph!
How do those liberal assholes think they get in the plastic bag in the grocery store? Oh, I forgot, those same libs would have us eating tofu turkeys for 'T-giving' if they had their way.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/22/2008 12:01 Comments || Top||

#9  Milton Fandango writes: And this is the same American media that was complaining that they could not show American combat dead and wounded?


Yup!
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/22/2008 12:04 Comments || Top||

#10  ...or the falling bodies on 9/11, but could show lots of pic's from Abu Ghrab.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/22/2008 15:52 Comments || Top||

#11  Shuster is a putz. Unless he is a vegetarian, where the hell does he think his turkey comes from? Turkey suicides? If he is a vegetarian, what about the violence to carrots, lettuce, tomatoes, and celery?
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/22/2008 17:29 Comments || Top||

#12  He was hoping for a Schmoo.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 11/22/2008 20:01 Comments || Top||

#13  "nancy boys" in the lib media? I say they're pussies

Yeah that, in addition to being whoring, duplicitous bastards. When you are filming an interview, the last thing you want is commotion and foofraw going on in the background. Unless, of course, you are looking for an opportunity for manufactured outrage. The camera never lies, but the filmaker chooses what story to tell. Yet Another Media Hatchet Job.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/22/2008 23:00 Comments || Top||


Washington's Woodstock
Hollywood celebrities, Web activists and jet-setters from around the world are preparing to turn the presidential inauguration on Jan. 20 into a mix of Woodstock and Martin Luther King Jr.'s 1963 speech on the National Mall.

While the plans of many top politicians and entertainment stars hang on pending details about the Commander-in-Chief Ball and other official events that Mr. Obama is likely to attend, dozens of other big-ticket parties are already taking shape. The Creative Coalition, an advocacy group, will host a ball at the Harman Center for the Arts. Spike Lee will be at the event, Susan Sarandon is likely to attend and the group is in discussions with such musicians as Elvis Costello to perform. Tickets to the fund-raiser, where director Barry Levinson will be shooting final scenes for a film called "Poliwood," a documentary about Hollywood's involvement in the presidential race, are still available -- a $10,000 "bronze" package admits two.

Love, one of the few Washington nightclubs that sees a steady flow of celebrities, is adding tents to triple its capacity to about 7,000. "The last time we had that many people it was for Beyoncé," says owner Marc Barnes about a concert with Ms. Knowles in 2002.

Inaugural Journeys
Many of Mr. Obama's supporters in Hollywood kept a low profile during the campaign, in part because of efforts by Sen. John McCain to cast his opponent as a celebrity. The inauguration offers a chance for celebrities to come out of the shadows. Oprah Winfrey, for example, plans to be on hand, and so does the singer India.Arie. Invitations go out in December for a party being hosted by real-estate mogul and Obama insider R. Donahue Peebles, his wife Katrina and an evolving list of celebrity co-hosts, including Star Jones and Chris Tucker, at the posh Georgetown Club. The invitation-only event for a few hundred guests will kick off at midnight after official festivities on Jan. 20; it runs til 4 a.m. and breakfast dishes will be served.
Posted by: Fred || 11/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another case of high burn rate. This seizure will burn out sooner than any of the boosters expect. As Hunter Thompson said, "Must have burned out too soon, or maybe not that much there to burn in the first place..."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/22/2008 1:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Following recent cocaine busts and the closure of 43 marijuana cafes in Amsterdam, this star studded event will do much to bolster the sagging illicit drug economy. If only Che and Pablo were here to enjoy.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/22/2008 7:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Gawd in damn heaven, it's Wavy!

Hai Wavy!


Hem is dead now.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/22/2008 9:04 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh Lord, he's not dead yet. Never mind.

Doing a damn Bess Truman thing.

Forgotten but not dead yet.

Posted by: .5MT || 11/22/2008 9:08 Comments || Top||

#5  One Super MOAB test could do so much good it simply brings tears to the eye just contemplating.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter 2700 || 11/22/2008 11:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Barf. Anyone with a cruising catamaran (35-ft plus, nice appointments) availalbe, I'd happily take it off your hands the third week of January. Have to find some way to be out of touch with all "news" during this sickening spectacle.
Posted by: Verlaine || 11/22/2008 12:58 Comments || Top||

#7  Maybe we can call it Laughingstock.

Posted by: Frozen Al || 11/22/2008 14:49 Comments || Top||

#8  I'm praying for a global warming sabbatical....snow, followed by ice and wind. Then more snow followed by -30 demps.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/22/2008 14:52 Comments || Top||


Hillary heading to State Department
Hillary Rodham Clinton has decided to give up her Senate seat and accept the position of secretary of state, two of her confidants say.
I'd be careful Mahmoud, she's got those .. crazy eyes, the kind that look in two directions at once, and a smile like an undertaker ...
Posted by: Fred || 11/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Given that the Government being installed seems to have so many elements from the Clinton era, it seems to me she may be headed for the President's seat.
Posted by: gorb || 11/22/2008 3:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Isn't the secretary of state 4th in line for the Presidency? Bambi, Biden, and Peloski might not want to travel together...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/22/2008 6:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Ok, here's my whacked out conspiracy theory what I suspect may be taking place. Firstly, I didn't think she would take the job, I was wrong. I failed to see the larger picture. Truth is, she didn't want the job, who would. No power to fire or dismiss. No one ever gets fired from DOS, they just shuffle around and continue to bugger one another. Who could thrive or feel comfortable in that stranger than strange environment. Certainly not a power monger like the Beast. It's not even a lateral move from the Senate, it's a step down! This is all part of 'hope for 2012' and the $ 22M campaign debt (now you owe ME) bailout from The One and the party of Soros. She's a dem celeb who can no doubt keep her mug squarely in the MSM on a daily basis, which is essential for 2012. She can maintain her voting base of 18 million screaching feminists and NYC liberals while ensuring they are all queuing up properly in 2012, either for The One or if he should fall, for her own run with former staff already in place...how convenient. Second order benefits for The One are knowing where the Beast and Slick are at all times and through the DOS backbiting spy net, having a pretyt good idea what they are up to. No threat from her with a competeing health care plan. No move by Slick to be reenergize his role as the "first black president." They are both effectively assigned to harmless, mundane duties in Queerville. If she fails, or slips off the reservation, there's always room under the bus, but it won't come to that I'm sure.

This entire program was worked out months ago. What we are seeing is the Jerry Springer drama adapted for the TV viewing audience. Pretty clever of the bastards I must admit. Pretty damn clever.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/22/2008 8:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Well the honor of being the 3rd gal secretary must be damn hard to resist.

I dunno, maybe it's the obvious, cushy job, good benefits and free travel.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/22/2008 9:14 Comments || Top||

#5  If you work in the DOS travel office you might wanna get that resume updated and start scouting for a good atty
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 9:21 Comments || Top||

#6  Now that was cheap, albeit insightful.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/22/2008 9:22 Comments || Top||

#7  She's a dem celeb who can no doubt keep her mug squarely in the MSM on a daily basis

Which is exactly what I feared the most. Every time I see her on the TV it turns my stomach.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 11/22/2008 11:57 Comments || Top||

#8  Isn't the secretary of state 4th in line for the Presidency? Bambi, Biden, and Peloski might not want to travel together ...

Or accept an invitation from Hillary to a midnight meeting at Fort Marcy Park.
Posted by: Alistaire Ebbise8808 || 11/22/2008 13:12 Comments || Top||

#9  Nothing like being in a position of power in a bankrupt nation. Sociopaths only apply.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/22/2008 14:47 Comments || Top||

#10  Gawd, that picture looks loke a plastic doll that you can bend into hideous shapes, and did.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/22/2008 17:55 Comments || Top||

#11  age has not been kind to Ms. Cankles
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 17:57 Comments || Top||

#12  Looks like she smokes or could use a good flossing too.
Posted by: Hellfish || 11/22/2008 19:34 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
PAF to acquire 36 combat aircraft from China - (Pakistan AF)
Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mahmood Ahmad on Wednesday said 36 high-tech combat aircraft (CF-20) would be inducted into the PAF fleet by 2010.

“The 21st Century — fifth generation — aircraft are of Chinese origin and would provide an extra punch to the air force,” he said while answering questions after a briefing to the visiting participants of the National Media Workshop being organised by the National Defence University at the Air Headquarters.

He said that modalities were being discussed to acquire two squadrons of the aircraft for the PAF. He said the FC-20 aircraft had been selected after hectic and lengthy deliberations besides considering a long list of the similar category aircraft of various origins. The engine of the aircraft would be manufactured by Russia with the most modern reverse technology, he said.

The air chief said the first squadron of the indigenously developed fighter aircraft — JF-17 (Thunder) — would be inducted into the PAF fleet in the first quarter of 2009, enhancing agility of the air force and increasing its reach beyond 350 nautical miles.

He said after laborious efforts, the PAF had also acquired night-war capability, due to which the country’s defence had been made further impregnable. “This capability has brought the PAF among a few air forces around the globe, which have the ability to carry out war operations during night times.

Posted by: 3dc || 11/22/2008 13:31 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  guess they don't need that IMF bailout, then?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 14:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Don't take a check from them.
Posted by: Flulet Hitler7108 || 11/22/2008 16:51 Comments || Top||

#3  manufactured by Russia with the most modern reverse engineered technology

Fixed it.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/22/2008 18:01 Comments || Top||

#4  The FC-20 is the perfect plane if you need a cheap jet fighter to impress the home crowd, and more importantly, to keep the home crowd in line.


I'm rather guessing that it doesn't impress the Indian Air Force, though I'm also sure that the IAF won't take the potential threat likely.



And I'm sure U.S. Navy Air isn't quivering in fear.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/22/2008 19:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Doggone it Phil, you ruined it! I was looking forward to that reverse thingy working....
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 11/22/2008 19:42 Comments || Top||

#6  The Russians put the backwards in backwards engineering.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/22/2008 23:21 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Tukey, Iran sign natural gas accord
Ankara and Tehran signed an accord strengthening agreements on developing Iran's gas fields and transporting Iranian gas to Europe. With the agreement, Turkey secures the operation rights for three offshore gas fields in Iran's South Pars region, off the southern gulf port of Assaluyeh. Under the accord, Turkey will produce some 46 million cubic meters of gas per day and may use half of that amount itself. It is estimated that Turkey will spend $12 billion on developing the project, which envisages the joint construction of a 1,850-kilometer (1,200-mile) pipeline from Assaluyeh to the Bazargan border area with Turkey in northwestern Iran (Hurriyet Daily News, November 20).

When asked to comment on the accord, U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said that the Iranian Government liked to sign such agreements but they did not really came to anything (www.state.gov, November 19).

It seems that Turkey's natural gas accord with Iran is a sort of "mehter march" policy, which requires two steps forward and one step back until the final destination is reached. In contrast to McCormack's view, the agreement between the two countries reflects strategic thinking on Turkey's part before taking such controversial steps. The Iranian side was applying pressure on Turkey to sign the recent accord. In June Ahmed Noorani, Iran's economic and trade attaché in the Iranian Embassy in Ankara, said, "Iran is ready to sign the natural gas contract but Turkey wants to work on details." Noorani further urged Turkey to sign the contract; "because the South Pars gas drilling site has been given to Turkey without competitive bidding [although] several problems have occurred on the Iranian side. We are expecting to sign the final agreement" (See EDM, June 24). In October the Iran Daily reported that "Iran and Turkey have resolved problems on a planned investment in the South Pars gas field and they may sign a production accord as early as November" (Iran Daily, October 26).

The question is, would Turkey jeopardize its relations with the United States by bowing to Iranian pressure to initiate such project? If not, why then is Turkey maneuvering to sign these accords with Iran? It is in the interest of Turkey to build a pipeline from Iran to Europe, but Turkish policy-makers know that the U.S is opposed to such a project and Ankara would not want to put its relations with the United States at risk for the Iranian gas pipeline. The Turkish motivation for signing the accords might have two aims.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/22/2008 12:56 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, Turkey bowed to outside pressure to prevent the 4ID from going through to Iraq. Why not cut a deal with Iran?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/22/2008 14:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Outside influence? Fascinating.

I recall Turkey being the target of U.S. State Department's machinations to sabotage the effort. Specifically that they were asking for large amounts of additional aid as an "incentive", when it actually that the aid was being negotiated separately and un-related to the 4th Infantry's entrance.
Posted by: Milton Fandango || 11/22/2008 21:22 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Che Hits the Big Apple
Posted by: tipper || 11/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The rotten apple has been nicarazuela for many years now already...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/22/2008 1:45 Comments || Top||


Home Front Economy
Citigroup May Get Government Rescue, Investors Say
Citigroup Inc. will probably get rescued by the U.S. government after a crisis in confidence erased half its stock-market value in three days, investors and analysts said.
Dare I repeat my previous comments about putting all our financial eggs into a single basket or two? I think my case is now made.
Citigroup has more than $2 trillion of assets, dwarfing companies such as American International Group Inc. that got U.S. support this year. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke may favor a rescue to avoid the chaotic aftermath of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.'s bankruptcy in September.

"There is no question that Citi is in the category of 'too big to fail,'" said Michael Holland, chairman and founder of Holland & Co. in New York, which oversees $4 billion. "There is a commitment from this administration and the next to do what it takes to save Citi."

While Citigroup executives say the company has adequate capital and liquidity to ride out the crisis, its tumbling share price may shake the confidence of creditors, clients and rating agencies. A similar scenario played out at Lehman, when Chief Executive Officer Richard Fuld declared the firm was "on the right track" five days before the firm went bankrupt.

"The market may be implying some sort of regulatory intervention," Jason Goldberg, a former Lehman analyst who now works at Barclays Capital in New York, wrote in a note to clients today. "In situations where the government has stepped in, the equity holders have not fared well."

Pandit's Conference Call
Citigroup CEO Vikram Pandit told employees today that he doesn't plan to break up the company, aiming to reassure workers as the stock resumed its skid. Citigroup shares dropped 94 cents, or 20 percent, to $3.77 at 4:08 p.m. in New York, giving the company a market value of about $21 billion. The stock pared its loss after the close of official trading, fetching $4.07 as of 4:35 p.m.
Posted by: Fred || 11/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  First of all, get a CEO with an American sounding name.
Like Bernie, or...
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/22/2008 16:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Citigroup CEO Vikram Pandit told employees today that he doesn't plan to break up the company, aiming to reassure workers as the stock resumed its skid.

Run for the door. Run very fast.
Posted by: Milton Fandango || 11/22/2008 21:16 Comments || Top||

#3  "note to our valued Citi employees: MS Office has a Resume Template, which is temporarily disabled ......for security reasons"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 21:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Why is it that every time I send out my 'thought for the day' email the printer starts spewing resumes?

-- Classic Dilbert
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/22/2008 23:10 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Bailout for Huffasnuffaguffalous
Arianna Huffington looks set to cement her position as the Queen of Capitol Hill in the next few days. The Times has learnt that the Huffington Post, her influential political website, will confirm within the next week that it has completed a $15 million (£10 million) fundraising from investors.
So there you have it, Brethren and Sistern! If the Burg can raise $15 million we can continue to publish for the next 150,000 months at our current financial burn rate. That's 12,500 years, not counting anything I skim off the top for beer or software. So dig deep! Drop your unneeded millions into the Paypal or Amazon accounts and win the fight against Donate-and-Spend Liberals!
The money will finance the expansion of HuffPo, as it is known, into the provision of local news across the United States and into more investigative journalism. And it will ensure that Ms Huffington's influence continues to spread across the US political scene.
The little progressive suckers around America are grateful they could help Ariana, of course ...
She is a close friend of Barack Obama, the President-elect - who, with Hillary Clinton, has posted on her site - and, at a dinner in London on Wednesday night, joked: "I only text three people - my two teenage children and Barack Obama."
Honey, you need to learn the truth: Bambi has no friends. First hint of trouble and you'll be under the bus Air Force One.
Ms Huffington launched HuffPo, which has about 2.5 million bloggers contributing to it regularly, in May 2005 with $2 million of seed capital. She then raised $5 million in August 2006 from venture capital firms including SoftBank Capital and Greycroft Partners, as well as individuals such as Bob Pittman, the former AOL executive. In a second round of fundraising in September 2007, HuffPo raised a further $5 million.

Ms Huffington, 58, the daughter of a Greek newspaperman, has been turning heads ever since she arrived at Cambridge University in the late 1960s. Then called Arianna Stassinopoulos, she became the first foreigner - and only the third woman - to be president of the Cambridge Union debating society. A lengthy affair with the journalist Bernard Levin raised her profile farther. During their eight years together she wrote three bestselling biographies, including works on Pablo Picasso and Maria Callas, before moving to the US in 1980.

There, she met and married Michael Huffington, the oil billionaire, becoming one of Manhattan's leading socialites and a champion of the Republican revolution led by Newt Gingrich, the Speaker of the House of Representatives. Her marriage ended in 1994.

The launch of HuffPo came after Ms Huffington had spent a decade of campaigning for causes such as opposition to the Iraq War, concluding a remarkable political journey from right to left.
Posted by: Fred || 11/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A severely weakened and handicapped group. I am glad that these donors were able to help with little miss anxiety attacks and thick accent.
Posted by: newc || 11/22/2008 0:20 Comments || Top||

#2  I think she found that money buys you a lot more influence and access on the Left than it does on the on the Right.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/22/2008 1:46 Comments || Top||

#3  So there you have it, Brethren and Sistern! If the Burg can raise $15 million we can continue to publish for the next 150,000 months at our current financial burn rate.

Wow, Fred. That's a 100 times what I ever made blogging, you rich capitalist bastard!
Posted by: badanov || 11/22/2008 7:57 Comments || Top||

#4  uh huh, and since the Greek Screech has absolutely no business plan, this is just rich libs throwing money at the Air America of the blogs
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 8:10 Comments || Top||

#5  ...and into more investigative journalism.

HuffPo does investigative journalism? Who knew?

A lengthy affair with the journalist Bernard Levin raised her profile farther.

OMG, like, you're such a slut!

There, she met and married Michael Huffington, the oil billionaire,

Eat that, John Kerry...

...had spent a decade of campaigning for causes such as opposition to the Iraq War

She opposed the Iraq war for an entire decade, or is that the only 'cause' the writer could come up with?
Posted by: Raj || 11/22/2008 8:12 Comments || Top||

#6  Fred, all you have to do is pimp yourself out to some billionaire. The paparazzi will then splash you mug all over the magazines and TV. Then you'll be famous and the contributions will flood into the Rantburg coffers...not to mention the backing you'll get from the billionaire. It's simple.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 11/22/2008 11:18 Comments || Top||

#7  well, she made Michael Huffington turn gay....just saying
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 11:30 Comments || Top||

#8  Think of how much furniture can be refinished for $15 mil!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/22/2008 14:43 Comments || Top||

#9  I visited the Puffington Host once, for about ten minutes. I spent the next three days on my knees seeking God's forgiveness. That place is FOUL, which is one of the reasons the Donkeys like it. It's not quite as bad as Democratic Underground (which is where it belongs - at LEAST six feet under) or Daily KOS (kos why?), but it's foul. They won't see any of my money.

Heck, I don't even see any of my money...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/22/2008 19:52 Comments || Top||


Home Front Economy
Gas prices dip below $2, lowest in 3-plus years
Only four months after peaking at an unheard of $4.11 a gallon, the national average price for gasoline tumbled below $2 Friday, its lowest point in more than three years.
Here in Baltimore, at the heart of a high-tax state, prices are in the low $1.80 range.
Here in suburban Chicago, the heart of taxes and corruption, it's now $1.95.
Yet the global economic contrast between then and now could not be more stark. On March 9, 2005, the last time gasoline cost less than $2, the Dow Jones industrial average closed at 10,805.63. After a huge rally Friday, the Dow closed at 8,046.42.

There was muted joy for consumers wading through an economy that's almost certainly in recession, with thousands of jobs being lost and mortgage foreclosures continuing to rise to record levels.

On the New York Mercantile Exchange, where oil futures seemed destined to breach $200 just a few months ago, pessimism was an understatement. "At this point, all we can say with any degree of confidence is that crude oil ... will not trade below zero," trader and analyst Stephen Schork said Friday in a tongue-in-cheek analysis of the market's swoon.

Crude has been in free-fall, shedding two-thirds of its value since July, and gasoline prices have followed. Some say oil could be headed below $40 a barrel, and gasoline below $1.50.

Motorists in Independence, Mo., on Friday said they were paying $1.37 for a gallon of gas.
Posted by: Fred || 11/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Plenny a cheap lotion, not near as much motion...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/22/2008 1:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Green Stamps, free tableware, Superman, Batman, and Green Hornet drinking glasses coming soon?
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/22/2008 7:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Tumblers, I want them.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/22/2008 8:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Here in the Northwest, home of perpetual dithering on transportation issues, it was $1.95 yesterday.....
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 11/22/2008 10:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Here in the Montgomery area the cheapest gas is $1.78. (and it just happns to be around the corner) I have 1/4 tank left, when I need gas I'll report back.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/22/2008 12:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Anchorage is $2.80/gal but steadily falling. We are probably 2 wk to a month behind lower 48. In villages where the barges deliver fuel once a year, gas and heating oil is still $8.00/gal.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/22/2008 14:41 Comments || Top||

#7  heating oil is still $8.00/gal.

;(

I guess heat pumps not really an option.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/22/2008 15:57 Comments || Top||

#8  Regular is $1.78/gallon here in Colorado Springs, but diesel is still over $2.50/gallon (higher than premium gas at $2.19). Don't understand that...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/22/2008 18:55 Comments || Top||

#9  US exports diesel to Europe and imports gasoline.
Posted by: ed || 11/22/2008 19:23 Comments || Top||

#10  Passed a station this evening at $1.69. I'm waiting until tomorrow to gas up at Sam's Club - wonder how low it will be there? :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/22/2008 20:06 Comments || Top||

#11  Where's my tariff? I thought the Dems wanted to keep prices high so people would drive less.
Posted by: KBK || 11/22/2008 20:59 Comments || Top||



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