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Rashid Rauf dronezapped in Pakistain: officials
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-Short Attention Span Theater-
We think Rantburg is written by a man (82%).
Wonder who the 18% is?
Posted by: tipper || 11/22/2008 19:40 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Seems about right, maybe a little high. The other 25% is written by a woman. Clever, these AI.
Posted by: KBK || 11/22/2008 21:01 Comments || Top||

#2  sometimes .... i like to dress up. That's prolly where the 18% comes in

Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 21:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Truly, KBK. Off the top of my head I'd say some of the other 18% are Seafarious, Barbara Skolaut, Cornsilk Blondie, Sgt. Mom. ex-lib, Jan, Kelly, lotp... and me, too.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/22/2008 21:37 Comments || Top||

#4  LOL TW - my snark intended no disrespect to our better halves contributions, although Sea has been a bit MIA lately
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 21:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Frank dear. I'm sure you clean up very nicely, indeed.

Add Sherry to that list, too. The top of my head isn't working quite as well as it ought, tonight.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/22/2008 22:03 Comments || Top||

#6  I do, but I ain't shaving, d*mmit
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 22:06 Comments || Top||

#7  I wonder what it'll make of Joseph M....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/22/2008 23:05 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
How to Deal With Pirates
Posted by: tipper || 11/22/2008 20:22 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Dagestani Jamaat Expands Operations into Azerbaijan
Everything started last August 17 with the explosion at the Abu Bekir mosque in Baku. This mosque is considered a meeting place for those who adhere to the Salafi ideology. A grenade was thrown into the mosque during the evening prayer, killing two people and wounding several more.

The authorities attributed this attack to internal score-settling among the Salafists, arrested about 18 people suspected of organizing the attack, and decided to close the mosque. It should be noted that the mosque was initially closed temporarily due to the investigation into the blast, but the authorities decided not to reopen it.

It is not quite clear why the Salafists themselves are accused of an attack which reflects negatively on their reputation. However, the explosion has given the authorities in Azerbaijan a pretext to close a mosque which, unlike Azerbaijan's Muslim Spiritual Directorate, was not subservient to the stat. In a state where a particularly shaped beard is sufficient enough for the police to harass an individual, it is difficult to speak of the Salafis having a mass following

On November 10, Azeri news media reported that the Azerbaijani authorities were conducting special operations against jamaat members in the Lezgin-populated northern part of the country.

This means the Azerbaijani authorities failed to deprive the jamaat members of their sanctuary in the northern part of the republic in August and September. It can be surmised from this that there is a well-formed and deeply rooted jamaat in that part of the country that continues to function even after the death of its leader Emir Abdul-Mejid. The absence of news reports about actions carried out by the jamaat of Lezgins of Azerbaijan on the website controlled by prominent North Caucasian Salafist ideologue and political figure Movladi Udugov, who also happens to be responsible for informational support of the Caucasus Emirate, is possibly related to the fact that full-fledged contacts between the aforementioned jamaat and the structures of the Emirate have not yet been established. In other words, after organizing this entity in that area of Caucasus, Emir Abdul-Mejid simply did not have time to connect it with his contacts abroad and within the Caucasian Emirate.

The network of jamaats operating in the Caucuses has grown and now incorporates cells from Sochi in the northwest to Baku in the southeast. However, it is important to emphasize that this growth does not imply an overall radicalization of the region or that there will be any such development in the foreseeable future. The portion of the region's population who are ready to carry out armed resistance is below one tenth of one percent. However, this tiny minority is far more active in its expression of dissent than the passive majority is in its expression of support for the Russian or the Azeri regime. Their main achievement is that they have a shared ideology (Salafism), a shared objective (assuming power in the region), and the means of achieving it through armed struggle and attrition warfare that will eventually force the Russian army out of the region.
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Home Front: Politix
German Publishing’s Man in the White House
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Morris: Deciphering Hillary
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#1  Morris really hates her. He's a little kooky on this.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/22/2008 9:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Morris really hates her. He's a little kooky on this.

I'd love to hear the back-story on that.
Posted by: DMFD || 11/22/2008 13:06 Comments || Top||

#3  she hates him back and called him a perceived slur about being Jewish (something like: "that's all you people care about - money!").
Posted by: Frank G || 11/22/2008 13:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Yes, he was the target of the you people deal.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/22/2008 16:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Morris really hates her. He's a little kooky on this.

I used to work for my cousin. After six months full-time with him, I grew to hate him with the intensity of a white hot sun. In that respect, I understand Dick Morris' hatred of the Clintons fairly completely, so I don't see it as kooky. I'll cop to obsessive, but maybe we're just splitting hairs on how it's described.

When you get screwed by someone, there's an intense urge to screw them back, in spades. That's it.
Posted by: Raj || 11/22/2008 17:32 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Menace of US drones
By Asif Haroon Raja

USA has no remorse over its brazen acts of aggression ...
... I must say, I feel no remorse whatsoever ...
... and rationalises its invasion and destruction of Afghanistan and Iraq as compulsory acts to ensure security of its homeland.
We're rather touchy that way ...
It justifies its offensive actions under Article 51 of UN charter.
We actually don't invoke the UN charter at all since the UN is useless. We invoke our right of self-defense. You might look under Hammurabi's Code for an explanation.
It is now trying to justify its intended offensive against Pakistan under the same Act on the plea that Pakistan is allowing its soil for breeding terrorism and exporting terrorism into Afghanistan to cause harm to US-Nato troops.
You guys don't really believe that Bambi is going to invade, do you? C'mon guys, even the Dhimmicrats here know that was a joke.
If so, why it remains tight-lipped on misuse of Afghan soil by several spy agencies working against the interests of Pakistan?
Because they're our spies ...
While so-called cross border terrorism is not causing any harm to homeland of USA, ...
Tell that to the folks who died on 9/11.
... cross border terrorism from Afghanistan into Pakistan is directly impinging upon the integrity and existence of Pakistan. As a policy, US military is extending support to warlords and officials in Afghanistan that are friendly with India and are anti-Pakistan.
That's the real bite, isn't it: we're friendly to the Afghans and the evil Hindooz, and the Hindooz are setting up shop in Afghanistan. You Paks are always worried that you're being surrounded, and now it's coming to pass. But you don't dare ask a question like, "why do they hate us?"
Since last July, American attitude towards Pakistan has become highly aggressive.
Whereas the Pak attitude towards American has been highly aggressive for years and years ...
Besides defaming Pak army and the ISI on baseless charges, Pakistan has been declared as a war zone and home to terrorists where from terrorism is exported to Afghanistan.
It isn't 'defamation' if it's true ...
In their view 3.5 million inhabitants of FATA being illiterate, impoverished and unemployed are militants and have turned the area into a military ground which breeds terrorists and provides safe haven to Al-Qaeda.
What part of that is wrong? Even the elite Sindhs and Punjabis laugh at the country-bumpkin Pashtuns who inhabit the FATA.
Osama, Al-Zahawari and other high-value targets in their view are based in FATA. Drone attacks on suspected targets in Waziristan have become a norm. The spy planes fly over the north-western region of Pakistan at will and hit targets unchallenged.
Because your military has set itself up to stand against the Hindooz (and I wouldn't provoke them) and to meddle in the internal affairs of the country, rather than pacify the frontier and keep the foreign terrorists out.
The drones hit suspected Al-Qaeda and pro-Pakistan Taliban disregarding collateral damage incurred and ignores anti-army militants. Each attack by the deadly flying machines kill majority of innocent civilians including women and children and very few noted militants get targeted. In this year so far 24 missile attacks have taken place killing 344 civilians. The number of so-called militants does not exceed ten.
The civilians are what we call 'camp-followers'. We'd prefer not to hit the wimmins and kiddies, but when the brave, fearless terrorists hide behind burqas this is what is going to happen. We're learning that the terrorists use our rules against us, and so where we can, we'll just wax them, and if the camp-followers get in the way, well, that's unfortunate. Now if the terrorists were real men, they'd meet us on a battlefield and work to protect the civilians.
The US military justify their selective targeting on the false plea that Pakistan army show little inclination to prevent anti-American groups including Afghan Taliban which cross into Afghanistan and hit US-Nato troops.
The Pak army is still deployed against India. When they deploy to the FATA we'll perhaps reconsider.
Attacks are made without seeking permission or even conveying their intent on the plea that the army and the ISI are linked with the Taliban and leak information to them before they are hit.
All of which is true.
US drones continue to carryout unprovoked acts of aggression while Washington disregards our feeble protests with arrogance. While it castigates Pakistan for not controlling infiltration from FATA, it keeps mum over large-scale infiltration of RAW and RAM agents into Pakistan and drone attacks almost on daily basis.
Remind us all how many wimmins and kiddies the 'RAW' and 'RAM' agents are killing. I think the total score so far is, zero.
Despite protests by Pakistani leadership and assurances by American leadership and unanimous resolution in parliament against US intervention, there has been no let up in the aerial attacks.
We're beginning to figure out this 'lip-service' idea. Apparently it's very useful in the Muslim world.
The drones controlled by CIA plan to eliminate all pro-Pakistan Pashtun tribal leaders and notables as well as Afghan Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
The ones we can find, anyways ...
Neither there is any remorse or word of apology from USA on attacking its ally which has rendered huge sacrifices to prevent the Afghanistan front from getting destabilised.
I don't know how he wrote that without his lips falling off. The 'Afgan front' has been 'destabilized' precisely because the ISI and the Pak militants want it that way.
The US has now begun to construct new military bases closer to Pakistan's western border to facilitate employment of drones even in rough weather conditions and to cover larger areas in depth. It implies reliance on spy planes will be further enhanced and option of ground raids suspended for the time being.
The drones are getting more capable, and the 'eye in the sky' has been blasting Talibunnies without harm to us. We'll change our tactics when the terrs change theirs.
Drone attack on a suspected target in Bannu on 18 November allegedly killing an al-Qaeda operative has added a new dimension since the attacks had so far been confined to FATA only. It indicates that from now onwards the drones would also attack targets inside settled areas of Frontier province and the creeping forward policy would continue till no part of Pakistan would remain safe from drones.
Now there's an idea ...
Ironically, despite claims of killing al-Qaeda operatives, so far not a single body has been recovered from the sites of attacks.
We're not interested in recovering the bodies. We'd prefer to leave them in the open for the vultures, who have to eat too. The Talibs drag the bodies off so that they can swear Dire Revenge™ over the graves.
It is widely believed that al-Qaeda is named to cover up failure of their intelligence resulting in collateral damage only. It is also speculated that missile attacks are wilfully launched to push back the militants from forward to rearward areas to not only spread militancy in urban centres but also to find an excuse for drone attacks.

PM Gilani has expressed hope that once Obama is in the saddle the drone attacks will come to an end. One wonders the basis of his optimism since Obama has given no such assurance. Even if his wish is granted which is least likely, still there are 60 days before Obama enters Oval Office. Does it imply we will continue to bear the onslaught of drones for this period without a whimper on a wishful assumption?
Bambi is the one who threatened to invade you, not McCain. But the drone attacks may stop since Bambi is going to appoint people to the Pentagon and State who are experts in the 'ethical aspects' of the War on Terror. That's a code phrase for their being mushy-brained and not having the stomach to keep doing what is working, which is to have the drones attack the Talibunnies.
Irrespective of the deep political polarisation between the Democrats and Republicans in USA, both are on one frequency as far as Pakistan is concerned. The leadership of the two parties as well as State Department, Congress, Pentagon, House of Representatives, CIA and the Jewish lobby in USA feel that the root to terrorism lie in FATA.
Now ask yourself how it is that we have agreement on this point ...
Three out of five Americans do not want withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan before stamping out terrorism and taking to task Osama bin Laden. These feelings have not changed despite altered perceptions of majority of NATO countries. France, Germany, Poland and Turkey in particular are keen to withdraw their troops from Afghanistan at the earliest.
Because they lack backbones ...
Britain and French military commanders have opined that war in Afghanistan could not be won militarily and have sought a political solution to Afghan imbroglio. The retired US military Generals in particular and some circles within American society have also expressed serious reservations over the skewed way adopted by Bush led team to fight the war on terror that has led to heightened anti-Americanism and has made the world unsafe. Ex Nato commander Gen Wesley Clark has urged more anti-terrorism support for Pakistan and letting Pak army tackle militancy on its soil without outside interference.
Any time that Weasley Clark tells you to do something, it's a good time to do the opposite. Anyone who understands the situation (and that clearly doesn't include Weasley) knows that the Pak army will never tackle militancy on its soil, because the army and the ISI own and operate said militancy.
The white Americans, American Jews, Israel, India and UK want Obama to do what Bush could not achieve. They want Pakistan to shed away its India centric mindset and instead wholly concentrate towards the threat posed by the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. They want him to convince Pakistan government and the military to consider militancy as the chief threat and not India.
But the true believers in the Land of the Pure™ can't seem to understand those simple truths ...
They want Pakistan not to waste its energies on Kashmir dispute and save whatever it has or get ready to lose everything. India's belligerence against its neighbours and massive human rights violations in Kashmir and some other parts of India including massacre of Christians in Orissa doesn't irk them.
The massacre of Christians in Pakistan doesn't seem to bother the Paks at all.
They want Obama to play a key role in resolving long outstanding Kashmir issue to the liking of India and not of Pakistan. They are keen to remove the lack of trust between the US-NATO-Afghan forces based in Afghanistan and Pak army so that the four could adopt a unified military strategy to combat the common threat of terrorism.

For the Jews, nuclear Pakistan poses the biggest threat to their security. Iran with nuclear ambitions is another cause of great worry for them.
Reverse the order and you've got it right.
Conversely, Hindu nuclear bomb does not bother them.
Because the Indians haven't threatened to annihilate Tel Aviv ...
USA, Canada, Russia and Israel had contributed a great deal towards development of Indian nuclear capability.

Unsolved Palestinian problem together with the threat posed by Hamas and Hezbollah are other irritants for Israel. They feel that Bush by disengagement had strengthened the hands of Hamas. They have not forgotten and forgiven the humiliation suffered at the hands of Hezbollah in Lebanon war. They are also keen to receive $30 billion US assistance promised to be delivered in the next decade. The Jews want Obama to address all these problems to their satisfaction. The Jewish lobby in USA know their nuisance value. Without their support none can hope to capture the prestigious slot of presidentship and any president daring to go against their wishes is turned into a political corpse.
So it's the fault of the evil Joooz, which is what all Muslim rants in the end come down to. Jews are 3% of our population but they control everything. If it really worked like that, I'd try to get enough Jews into Pakistan to be 3% of the population. Our lives would be easier.
Like other presidents, it will be the endeavour of Obama as well to become the protector of Israel. Obama has already indicated his tilt towards Israel by announcing his unconditional support for an undivided Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
Sorta ...
During his visit to Palestine, he spent only 45 minutes with the aggrieved Palestinians and had no word of sympathy for brutal blockade of Gaza and killing of tens of hundreds Palestinians at the hands of Israeli security forces ...
That's 45 minutes more than I would have spent.
... but he did show concern over few losses of Israelis well knowing that the casualty ratio was 1:400. While he desires dialogue with even those who formed part of Bush's axis of evil, Obama opposes negotiations with the Hamas. There is increasing awareness among the Americans about the perverse influence of Jews over various organs of state power and hatred against them is spreading.

With the change of government in Washington by 20 January next year, the Democrats under Obama are likely to relegate Iraq front to lower priority since fighting war on two fronts has become financially and socially prohibitive.
And that we've just about got it won in Iraq ...
Obama has pledged to carryout phased withdrawal starting January next year and complete it in 16 months time. After pulling back its forces from frontline duties and shifting few brigades to Afghanistan, USA will then focus its entire attention towards Afghanistan. Keeping one front activated will be logistically and financially viable.
Which is what you and your Talib friends are going to try and screw ...
However, it will have to be seen how Iraq turns up after the departure of US troops and its allies. Some opine that there is a strong possibility of the country getting split into three states with southern Iraq under Shias and under the influence of Iran would become the dominant state. Such a development will make all Arab Sunni states in the neighbourhood uneasy. Upsurge of Shia power under the patronage of Iran would also impinge upon the security and economic interests of USA, Israel, Europe and Japan in the region. The independent state of Kurds in the north would impact Turkey, Iran and Syria having sizeable Kurds. These factors will cast a heavy pull on the new policy makers in Washington and despite their great urge to withdraw US troops from Iraq; they might not be able to do so for quite some time.
This is the kind of insightful analysis you can only get from the New York Times or Keith Olbermann ...
As regards Pakistan, Obama has issued policy statements which give an insight to his thinking. He stated that he expects Pakistan to fully focus on war on terror and should not be distracted by other regional problems. He said that resolution of Kashmir dispute is essential to fight terrorism. What it implies is that USA expects Pakistan to forget about Kashmir by accepting the Line of Control as permanent border, encouraging trade between the two parts of Kashmir, Pakistan to allow land route to India to ship Indian goods to Afghanistan and Central Asia, accept India as the unchallenged regional power, and let India stand up as a bulwark against China.
If Bambi could do all of that he'd actually solve one of the more vexing problems in our foreign policy, and I'd begin to be impressed with him.
He is keen to change the perceptions of Pakistani leadership and the military about India and make them believe that it is not India but the militants who pose the biggest threat to Pakistan's security and existence.
I'm not sure Bambi actually believes that, but he should, and he should jaw at the Pak elites until they get it ...
Other than the west loving Muslims, the Muslims have seen the inner side of the sole super power which has been following anti-Islamic policies. 9/11 changed the dynamics of the world and gave rise to virulent anti-Muslim racism.
So the next canard to be raised is 'Islamophobia', and right on schedule ...
US aim is to subjugate Islamic civilisation and to ensure American global ascendancy. Because of unjust policies and double standards, the Bush government fuelled militancy and terrorism and made the world unsafe. In order to give final shape to its New World Order, the US under new leadership is likely to continue browbeating Pakistan economically through its exploitative tools -- IMF and World Bank -- until Pakistan falls in line with its perceptions and agrees to adopt secularism, roll back its nuclear program and accept India as the regional policeman.
If you don't want IMF money just say so, and go it alone.
Asif Haroon Raja is a retired Brigadier General of the Pakistan Army and a security and political analyst and writes for several national and foreign newspapers.
Posted by: john frum || 11/22/2008 09:59 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Someone screwed up his bio at the bottom, it should read:

Asif Haroon Raja is an anti-Semite retired Brigadier General of the Pakistan Army and reared in a madrassa that imbued him with a strictly Islamic ummah point of view.
Posted by: Hammerhead || 11/22/2008 10:51 Comments || Top||

#2  I think Asif deserves to be on the drone target list - just on general principles... heh!
Posted by: 3dc || 11/22/2008 11:18 Comments || Top||

#3  He certainly sounds quite cranky, and personally vexed. Good. Have a stroke with that? Please?
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 11/22/2008 11:48 Comments || Top||

#4  He seems to object to us killing those wretched murderers. Friends of his perhaps?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/22/2008 12:36 Comments || Top||

#5  Don't agree with retired Gen Raja's article, but it would probably be wise to keep off his lawn.
Posted by: DMFD || 11/22/2008 13:08 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Clear and Present Danger
Posted by: 3dc || 11/22/2008 15:41 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Since some of these practices are at least plausibly illegal or even un-Consitutional, and since they are clearly important if not vital to the survival of the Nation, I contend the proper 'answer' is an appropriate Constitutional amendment and accompanying legislation. Sadly, won't even be considered.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/22/2008 16:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Put one behind the ear and dump em in the bay.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/22/2008 17:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Well no, I wouldn't do either.


Counter-terrorism and democracy itself are both like sausage-making: you don't want to look too closely, particularly if you're squeamish. We do not need additional constitutional protection: such protection could surely be abused. What we need are two political parties that understand what has to be done, and do it, making sure that we don't overboard. Sadly, we have had but one such party.



KSM and the other mooks don't yet deserve a bullet behind the ear: they have far too much intel still in their heads.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/22/2008 19:28 Comments || Top||


Home Front Economy
Bailout from Australia
Posted by: tipper || 11/22/2008 11:10 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As time marches on I believe more and more that it isn't the company, it's the UAW.
I was a union guy for 10 years in the Carpenters/Piledrivers/Divers union, but you have to live with the consequences of your actions. And if you drive a company into the ground, you are going to have to face the fact that you now have no job.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/22/2008 11:57 Comments || Top||



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Sat 2008-11-22
  Rashid Rauf dronezapped in Pakistain: officials
Fri 2008-11-21
  US strikes inside Pakistain 'intolerable', says Gilani
Thu 2008-11-20
  U.S. Dronezap Kills 6 Terrs in Pakistain
Wed 2008-11-19
  Indian Navy destroys Somali pirate mothership
Tue 2008-11-18
  B.O. vows to exit Iraq, shut down Gitmo
Mon 2008-11-17
  Pirates take Saudi supertanker off Mombasa
Sun 2008-11-16
  Lankan Army seizes entire west coast from LTTE
Sat 2008-11-15
  Al-Shabaab closes in on Mog
Fri 2008-11-14
  U.S. missiles hit Pak Talibs, 12 dead
Thu 2008-11-13
  Somali pirates open fire on Brit marines. Hilarity ensues.
Wed 2008-11-12
  Philippines ship, 23 crew seized near Somalia
Tue 2008-11-11
  EU launches anti-piracy mission off Somalia
Mon 2008-11-10
  Somali gunnies kidnap two Italian nuns
Sun 2008-11-09
  Boomerette hits emergency room west of Baghdad
Sat 2008-11-08
  Mukhlas, Amrozi and Samudra executed


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