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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
The Filth of China
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/24/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ION BHARAT RAKSHAK > IIRC CHINA'S POOL OF CHEAP LABOR IS QUICKLY DRYING UP.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/24/2009 2:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Incredibly frightening pictures.
Posted by: borgboy || 10/24/2009 2:26 Comments || Top||

#3  But they're Communists, so it's okay, isn't it? Didn't Thomas Friedman say so, along with the occupants of every college faculty lounge in the country?
Posted by: RIcky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 10/24/2009 2:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Where is Michael Moore? He could make a powerful movie about this. We just need to explain to him that it's all Bush's fault and he will be eager to go.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 10/24/2009 6:53 Comments || Top||

#5  It's amazing what a government will allow when they are not held accountable by the people. This is Mao's dream, realized.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/24/2009 8:42 Comments || Top||

#6  This puts in perspective the hysteria of the Global Warming zealots in the US and UK. The only reason the Chinese and others are supporting Global Warming amelioration in the West is their heartfelt desire to cripple the economies of the West so that they can conquer them.
Posted by: rwv || 10/24/2009 10:38 Comments || Top||

#7  And Mao is Dunne's most admired philosopher and her husband set to take over as chief WH counsel. With China holding all our debt, any bets they make the US taxpayers pay for any clean-up?
Posted by: Lumpy Elmoluck5091 || 10/24/2009 10:40 Comments || Top||

#8  looks like photos of USSR and Eastern Europe after the fall.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/24/2009 12:33 Comments || Top||

#9  They'll clean it up themselves, After enough people die.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/24/2009 12:47 Comments || Top||

#10  It is a step back to the Industrial world's earlier days, but on a scale unimaginable. There is one thing about "traditional" pollution from steel mills, etc. But mix this up with chemical plants on a huge scale and you have an environmental disaster of unprecedented scope.

If the world is truly environmentally aware, we should be working for raising the quality for all. Instead, the so called environmentalists are working to take the wealth from the nations that can best implement responsible change and give it to those that will not use the wealth for betterment. In many ways the so called environmentalists are as destructive as those Chinese industrialists.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/24/2009 13:22 Comments || Top||

#11  I did my senior thesis in Poli. Sci. (no laughter, please) on the environmental issues in the USSR (circa 1973). It was my contention then as it is now that Marxism is primarily responsible for this due to the philosophy that makes all raw materials "free" goods. Since there is no price for water, ore, timber, etc. there is no cost and no reason to conserve.

This is what you get. Capitalism isn't perfect in this regard but it's a whole lot better.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/24/2009 13:56 Comments || Top||

#12  With China holding all our debt

Do tell! When did that heppen?
Posted by: .5MT || 10/24/2009 14:28 Comments || Top||

#13  Looks a lot like the photos I saw of Leipzig and Dresden from the 70's and 80's. I understand the German government nearly went broke trying to clean up the mess.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/24/2009 14:55 Comments || Top||

#14  Good point, Alan. If the cost of a good or service is the labor cost, as Marxism classically proclaims, then both preventing pollution in the first place and cleaning up the environment afterwards is something that the communists never can do -- the labor required is a negative cost for them.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/24/2009 15:46 Comments || Top||

#15  I move that the eco-weenies concernd pay for the cleanup out of their own pockets for a change, if they wo'nt sacrifice why should I?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/24/2009 16:10 Comments || Top||

#16  Wait a minute! I have just recently seen articles about how China is coming up with all kinds of enviromentally friendly technology and policies! (sarcasm off....)
Rifle308
Posted by: Rifle308 || 10/24/2009 16:54 Comments || Top||

#17  The local newspaper reported today that our local energy company and a Chinese one will be working together on several solar power projects.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/24/2009 23:30 Comments || Top||


Britain
Senior Anglican Bishop May Convert To RC
Bishop Hind said he would be "happy" to be reordained as a Catholic priest and said that divisions in Anglicanism could make it impossible to stay in the church. He is the most senior Anglican to admit that he is prepared to accept the offer from the Pope, who shocked the Church of England last week when he paved the way for clergy to convert to Catholicism in large numbers.

In a further blow to the Archbishop of Canterbury's hopes of preventing the Anglican Communion from disintegrating, other bishops have cast doubt over its survival.

The Rt Rev John Broadhurst, the Bishop of Fulham, even claimed that "the Anglican experiment is over". He said it has been shown to be powerless to cope with the crises over gays and women bishops.

In one of the most significant developments since the Reformation, the Pope last week announced that a new structure would be set up to allow disaffected Anglicans to enter full communion with Rome, while maintaining parts of their Protestant heritage.

The move comes after secret talks between the Vatican and a group of senior Anglican bishops. Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, was not informed of the meetings and his advisers even denied that they had taken place when the Sunday Telegraph broke the story last year.

Now Bishop Hind, the most senior traditionalist in the Church of England, has confirmed that he is willing to sacrifice his salary and palace residence to defect to the Catholic Church.

"This is a remarkable new step from the Vatican," he said. "At long last there are some choices for Catholics in the Church of England. I'd be happy to be reordained into the Catholic Church."

While the bishop stressed that this would depend on his previous ministry being recognised, he said that the divisions in the Anglican Communion could make it impossible to stay.

"How can the Church exist if bishops are not in full communion with each other," he said.

Conservative archbishops and bishops have broken ties with their liberal counterparts following the US Episcopal Church's consecration of Gene Robinson, the first openly gay bishop.

Bishop Broadhurst said that the Pope has made his offer in response to the pleas of Anglicans who despair at the disintegration of their Church.

"Anglicanism has become a joke because it has singularly failed to deal with any of its contentious issues," said the bishop, who is chairman of Forward in Faith, the Anglo-Catholic network that represents around 1,000 traditionalist priests.

"There is widespread dissent across the [Anglican] Communion. We are divided in major ways on major issues and the Communion has unravelled. I believed in the Church I joined, but it has been revealed to have no doctrine of its own.

"I personally think it has gone past the point of no return. The Anglican experiment is over."

The Rt Rev Martyn Jarrett, the Bishop of Beverley, also said there were questions over the church's survival, adding that the Church of England has changed too dramatically for some traditionalists.

"They are beginning to reflect that the theological position of the Church isn't what they believe," he said. "The offer from the Vatican is momentous and I felt a great sense of gratitude that the Roman Catholic Church is thinking about the position of traditionalist Anglicans."

Clergy at the Forward in Faith conference, which met in Westminster yesterday, expressed relief that the Pope had provided them with an escape route.

Fr Ed Tomlinson, vicar of St Barnabas, Tunbridge Wells, said that he would be following the lead of Bishop Hind.

"The ship of Anglicanism seems to be going down," he said. "We should be grateful that a lifeboat has been sent. I shall be seeking to move to Rome. To stay in the Church of England would be suicide."

Hundreds of traditionalist clergy could join the exodus, though most are waiting for the exact details of the new apostolic constitution to be published.

Battles lie ahead over whether priests who leave to join the Catholic Church will be allowed to take their churches with them, but some bishops have already warned against property seizure.

Dr Williams was only informed of the details of the Pope's decree last weekend and is understood to have been "implacably opposed" to the move. Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, said he was "appalled" that his successor was given such short notice and was excluded from discussions on the issue.

The Rt Rev Gregory Cameron, Bishop of St Asaph and a close colleague of Dr Williams, said that the archbishop was likely to be saddened by the developments.

"Rowan has worked very hard for unity both within the Anglican Communion, and with Rome, and I suspect he may feel that what has happened is little short of a betrayal, not by the Catholic Church, but by some of those in his own ranks."

"He is likely to be saddened that they felt driven to seek such a radical solution and that some of them now feel they have to go. Up until now, the Roman Catholic Church has been putting its weight behind Rowan, but now it is appearing to put its weight behind the conservative groups it can most easily win over."

"The danger is that they'll have every disaffected Anglican beating down the pathway to their door and asking for special treatment."

The Sunday Telegraph can disclose that the planning behind last week's announcement began in 2006, when the Pope asked the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to consider how they could invite Anglicans into the Roman Catholic fold.

He had reached out to disillusioned Anglicans three years earlier, when as head of the Congregation, the most powerful of the Vatican's departments and successor to the medieval Inquisition, he wrote a personal letter to Anglicans in America. He reassured them of the Catholic Church's support of their stand against the liberal tide.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/24/2009 19:08 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The beacons are being lit. The question is whether it's too late to strengthen the ramparts against the orcs.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/24/2009 23:04 Comments || Top||

#2  "Rowan has worked very hard for unity both within the Anglican Communion, and with Rome, and I suspect he may feel that what has happened is little short of a betrayal, not by the Catholic Church, but by some of those in his own ranks."

Rowan is full of it. The betrayal is HIS.

Clueless, treasonous idiot.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/24/2009 23:37 Comments || Top||


Labour let in migrants 'to engineer multicultural UK'
Huge increases in immigration over the past decade were a deliberate attempt to engineer a more multicultural Britain, a former Government adviser said yesterday.

Andrew Neather, a speechwriter who worked in Downing Street for Tony Blair and in the Home Office for Jack Straw and David Blunkett, said Labour's relaxation of controls was a plan to 'open up the UK to mass migration'.

As well as bringing in hundreds of thousands to plug labour market gaps, there was also a 'driving political purpose' behind immigration policy, he claimed.

Ministers hoped to change the country radically and 'rub the Right's nose in diversity'. But Mr Neather said senior Labour figures were reluctant to discuss the policy, fearing it would alienate its 'core working-class vote'.
Who happen to stand more with the Tories on that issue ...
On Question Time, Mr Straw was repeatedly quizzed about whether Labour's immigration policies had left the door open for the BNP.

Writing in the Evening Standard, Mr Neather revealed the 'major shift' in immigration policy came after the publication of a policy paper from the Performance and Innovation Unit, a Downing Street think tank based in the Cabinet Office. The published version promoted the labour-market case for immigration but Mr Neather said unpublished versions contained additional reasons.

'Earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.

'I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended - even if this wasn't its main purpose - to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date.' The 'deliberate policy', from late 2000 until 'at least February last year', when the new points-based system was introduced, was to open up the UK to mass migration, he said.

Mr Neather defended the policy, saying mass immigration has 'enriched' Britain and made London a more attractive and cosmopolitan place.
Especially the spittle-throwing imans ...
Sir Andrew Green, chairman of the Migrationwatch think tank, said: 'Now at least the truth is out, and it's dynamite. Many have long suspected that mass immigration under Labour was not just a cock-up but a conspiracy. They were right.

'This Government has admitted three million immigrants for cynical political reasons concealed by dodgy economic camouflage.'

The chairmen of the cross-party Group for Balanced Migration, MPs Frank Field and Nicholas Soames, said: 'We welcome this statement which the whole country knows to be true. It is the first beam of truth that has officially been shone on the immigration issue in Britain.'
Posted by: tipper || 10/24/2009 12:13 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Would it not be easier for the government to dissolve the people and elect another?
Posted by: B. Brecht || 10/24/2009 12:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Same thing has happened here in the US, I'm quite sure. I'm starting to feel like I live in a foreign country now. The change in the last fifteen years in California is quite shocking.
Posted by: Glutle Henbane7090 || 10/24/2009 13:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Peasants revolting? Get new ones. Worked for Kennedy and the Democratic Party.
Posted by: ed || 10/24/2009 14:13 Comments || Top||

#4  You mean it's not an accident that we are where we are?
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 10/24/2009 14:50 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Talks to resolve political crises in Honduras fail
[Iran Press TV Latest] Talks to resolve the political crisis in Honduras have collapsed over the de facto government's refusal to reinstate the ousted president, Manuel Zelaya.
Guess that's pretty much that, then. Guess he'll be leaving for Caracas any time, right?
Rumor is, Madrid or Barcelona ...
Zelaya had set a deadline of midnight on Thursday for the de facto government led by Roberto Micheletti to accept his return to power, and had vowed to break off negotiations if the regime failed to agree.
He's got more to gain from the negotiations than the government...
Envoys for Zelaya accused the de facto leaders of dragging out dialogue in the run-up to November 29, when an election is due to choose a new president. "We consider the dialogue has been exhausted, we cannot continue to give deadlines," said Mayra Mejia, a member of Zelaya's negotiating team.
Then shut yer fudge up and go visit Hugo...
Central America's worst political crisis in decades was set off by the June 28 arrest and ouster of Zelaya over his plans to change the constitution, which had upset the country's courts, Congress and business leaders.
Only because it violated their constitution, which had provisions to protect against somebody naming himself Presidente for Life...
Since his surprise return a month ago, the former rancher has been holed up in the Brazilian embassy, where occupants have reported growing pressure on him.
Pressure from whom? From the Brazilians?
Envoys for de facto leader Roberto Micheletti said they did not recognize the latest deadline from their rival and would present a new proposal on Friday.
"Our deadline's November 29th."
Zelaya meanwhile said he would tell the international community of the breakdown in the latest negotiations, which has been going on for 16 days.
Whoa! He's gonna tell on them? That's pretty serious. Wonder what Mom's gonna do?
No country in the Americas has recognized Honduras's new authorities, who have suffered punitive reactions from the United States.
Posted by: Fred || 10/24/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  you don't get to make demands when you hold no cards, pendejo
Posted by: Frank G || 10/24/2009 16:04 Comments || Top||


Interim leaders make Honduras offer
Honduras's military-backed interim government has made a new offer towards resolving its standoff with Manuel Zelaya, the deposed president, just hours after Zelaya's aides said negotiations had failed.

Vilma Morales, a representative of Robert Micheletti, the interim president, said that the de facto government was willing to allow Zelaya to appeal directly to the legislature to decide whether he should be reinstated. "Congress could decide [on Zelaya's reinstatement to the presidency] based on a request that he should formally present to the legislative branch," Morales said on Friday.

Micheletti had previously insisted that the Honduran supreme court be the final arbiter of whether Zelaya could retake his post. The supreme court has already ruled out allowing Zelaya's reinstatement.

Zelaya has said he wants congress to rule on his attempt to be reinstated, despite the fact that estimates suggest that he only has the support of about one-fifth of politicians in the chamber.

Victor Meza, a Zelaya representative, said his side had no reaction to Micheletti's proposal because "it still hasn't been formally delivered to us".

Micheletti's team also suggested a scenario in which both Micheletti and Zelaya would renounce any claim to the presidency, with a third party designated to serve out the three months left in Zelaya's term. However, Zelaya has not agreed to similar proposals in the past.

Several countries, including the US, say that Zelaya should be promptly reinstated to the presidency pending elections scheduled for November 29. They have said that they will not recognise the result of the vote unless Zelaya is back in office in time for the election.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/24/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Zelaya delegation says dialogue with de facto gov't exhausted
TEGUCIGALPA, Oct. 23 (Xinhua) -- The negotiator of ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya, Mayra Mejia said on Friday that the dialogue with the de facto government to solve the political crisis in the country was exhausted.

Mejia said this on Friday, after the deadline set by Zelaya expired on Thursday. "We consider the dialogue exhausted; we can not continue giving deadlines," Mejia told local media on Friday.

However, despite this, the de facto government also made a new proposal on Friday "urging not to break the dialogue."

Negotiator of the de facto government Vilma Morales told a press conference that "President Roberto Micheletti will leave the presidency of the republic if Mr Manuel Zelaya gives up on his pretensions, to give place to a government of national transition and reconciliation."

"We will be waiting for the dialogue with the considerations that our proposal could have, to reach a satisfactory solution, so much wanted by our Honduran nation," Morales added.

Zelaya told local radio station Radio Globo that "all the countries, including the U.S., have been strong in their positions, all the countries have given the reason to my government and position, and they have supported me."

The dialogue began on Oct. 7 and both commissions agreed seven of the eight points to be discussed, including the establishment of a government of reconciliation, a policy of amnesty and the advance of the elections. The point without agreement is the restitution of power for Zelaya, who was ousted on June 28 and taken by force to Costa Ricain a coup.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/24/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Negotitation results seem satisfactory to me.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 10/24/2009 6:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Yup, Micheletti just needs to run out the clock.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/24/2009 10:25 Comments || Top||

#3  I think Zelaya needs to have a "confrontation" - one that results in a large hole appearing in his forehead. That would put an end to the entire matter, once and for all. It's too bad "President" O'Bumble is on the wrong side in this foreign policy issue(and many others).
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/24/2009 15:11 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Tokyo still resistant to Washington base deal
The Japanese prime minister has once again expressed his country's reluctance to keep a military deal with Washington over the presence of US forces. "It's about how both sides avoid risks. That's what diplomacy is about," Premier Yukio Hatoyama told reporters on Friday. "There is no need to rush."

In 2006, Washington and Japan's conservative party agreed a deal to reorganize US forces in the Asian country, but Hatoyama's Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ) ousted the conservatives, who had been in power for nearly half-century, in an August election. Under the proposed deal, the functions of the Futenma air base would be transferred to a remoter part of the southern island of Okinawa, while shifting 8,000 Marines from the island to the US territory of Guam, partly at Japan's expense.
This is the Marine Corp helicopter base. It's on prime real estate in a now conjested area.
Despite US disagreement, Hatoyama had said he wanted the base moved off the island, which lies 1,600 km (1,000 miles) from the Japanese mainland in the Pacific Ocean. Okinawa hosts more than half of the 47,000 American troops stationed in Japan. Their presence has often caused friction with the local community, especially when American servicemen have committed crimes.
They mean American servicemen accused of rapes, some of which are true.
The new center-left government in Tokyo has taken a more independent stance towards Washington. Hatoyama's decision over the dispute could affect voter support for his government, now riding high at about 70% in most polls.

Earlier on Thursday, Japan's foreign minister reacted to remarks by US Defense Secretary Robert Gates pressing the Japanese government to proceed with the deal quickly. "I don't think we will act simply by accepting what the US tells us, just because the US is saying this, in such a short space of time," Katsuya Okada said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/24/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  TOPIX > JAPAN: NO BASE DECISION/DEAL UNTIL AFTER OBAMA VISIT.

versus

WMF > JAPAN: CHINA HAS DISCOVERED THE WEAKNESS OF US PACIFIC FORCES. CHIN recognizes it must

(1) DEPLOY MORE SUBMARINES CAPABLE OF STRATEGIC STRIKE FROM CHIN = EAST ASIAN LITTORALS. +
(2) PREEMPTIVE FIRST-USE OF BM NUCLEAR SATURATION STRIKES AGZ US PACIFIC AND CONUS TARGETS. A heavily damaged, but NOT destroyed, US DEFENSE would be hard pressed to stop FOLLOW-ON CHIN NUCLEAR + CONVENTIONAL STRIKES.

ARTIC > Year 2020-2040 > CHIN must seek to de facto dominate the "SECOND ISLAND CHAIN", i.e. IZU IsLands, OGASAWAR Islands, GUAM, SAIPAN-CNMI, + PAPUA NEW GUINEA [PNG], + surounding lessor islands or areas.

* SAME WMF > RUSSIAN DUMA APPROVES EXPANSION OF POWERS OF RUSSIAN PRESIDENCY TO USE MILITARY FORCE ABROAD. Not just CONVENTIONAL MIL = GROUND-TAC FORCES, but also NUCLEAR FORCE, IN DEFNSE OF RUSS INTERESTS + RUSS CITIZENS.

ARTIC > also INCLUSIVE OF PREEMPTIVE STRIKE.

* SAME MWF > AZERBAIJAN'S NEW MIL STRATEGY: TURN TOWARDS US-WEST WHILE ISOLATING RUSSIA IN THE CASPIAN REGION [four of ex-Russ States around Caspian are mostly MUSLIM].

"INTELLIGENCE VACUUM" in CASPIAN REGION may exist after expiration of RUSSO-AZERI Treatise [RussBases]in 2012.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/24/2009 0:25 Comments || Top||


Olde Tyme Religion
Anglicans told to gather up wares on road to Rome
The Church of England is on a collision course with clergy who want to take property with them when they defect to Rome following a papal decision to help them convert en masse.

In Westminster today, hundreds of Anglo-Catholics were mulling over the impact of the apostolic constitution, which will create a section in the Roman Catholic church for ex-Anglicans who wish to retain parts of their spiritual heritage. Delegates to the national assembly of the traditionalist group Forward in Faith, including dozens of clergy, heard they needed to address a key aspect of an "exodus" brought on by the ordination of women bishops. The Rev Geoffrey Kirk told the audience: "The Hebrews did not leave Egypt empty-handed. We must now apply ourselves to the task of securing our buildings and assets. We must ensure – for its own good and self-respect – that the Church of England is as generous in its dealings with us."

When the initiative was announced, the Catholic archbishop of Westminster, Cardinal Vincent Nichols, said people would face "formidable legal obstacles" if they wished to appropriate churches for their converted congregations. The Anglican bishop of Southwark, the Right Rev Tom Butler, has already written to his clergy warning against property seizure.

Delegates today were told the Vatican initiative was not to be taken lightly. The Right Rev Keith Newton, a "flying bishop" who provides care for people opposed to women clergy and has had several meetings with senior Vatican officials, said there was "no opportunity to negotiate the contents" of what was on offer.

Converts would have to accept all aspects of Catholicism and only maintain Anglican traditions that met with Vatican approval. For John Gaisford, the retired bishop of Beverley, it was too much. He said: "I never sought to cross the Tiber. I want to fight as fiercely as we can for our position within the Anglican communion." His remarks drew warm applause.

However, many people remarked how the Vatican had offered more than they had expected or hoped for. One cleric said they had gone "looking for a lifeboat and been offered a galleon".

The price would be high for clergy. They would have to leave behind a job, salary and home and be reordained.

One of the panel speakers was Fr David Houlding, who sits on the Archbishops' Council and is a member of General Synod, the Church of England's governing body. He would lose it all if he were to convert. "I am considering it, but there is a lot to consider," he said this week.

The pope's decision has many like him wondering where their future lies. They are anxious about whether legislation on women bishops will offer enough pastoral care for people opposed to their ordination, and there are fears that too much enthusiasm for the apostolic constitution will lead the synod to withdraw concessions for traditionalists.

One delegate said the mood of the mostly elderly crowd seemed to be against the Vatican initiative. Fear of the unknown may persuade people to stay where they are. "The Vatican is calling our bluff," said Houlding. "Many people have been angry with the Church of England and it's rather fun being angry. But now they're giving us what we want and it's an exciting but frightening development."
Posted by: Steve White || 10/24/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I clicked to see who wrote this article as it is one of the most poorly written articles I have read in awhile. The Guardian usually has decent writers, so I can only assume that they have had one too many budget cuts or the article didn't fit the narrative and was edited to the point of being unintelligible.
Posted by: Jumbo Slinerong5015 || 10/24/2009 0:50 Comments || Top||

#2  This is having all sorts of interesting repercussions.

The American Anglicans, no longer Episcopalian, don't want to have spent so much effort to escape radical liberal Episcopalian clergy, only to be faced with radical liberal American Catholic clergy.

So the recent move by the Vatican to survey and correct the rats-nest of non-cloistered US nuns was met with glee, and the hope is that the rest of the Catholic institutions in the US are similarly audited to root out not just heterodoxy, but outright heresy, by the Catholics in Name Only (CINOs).

So oddly enough, both American Catholics and Anglicans are hoping that the Vatican will, for example, restructure Notre Dame and other schools, and maybe place the Dominican Order and its Anglican counterpart, The Anglican Order of Preachers, under the guidance of branch offices of the Holy Office, to seek out and correct problems.

On an unrelated note, the majority of Anglicans are in Africa, where the bishops and archbishops are almost like kings in the amount of power they wield. Just one of them converting could mean a million new Catholics overnight.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/24/2009 12:33 Comments || Top||

#3  correct the rats-nest of non-cloistered US nuns

A grave threat indeed.
Posted by: .5MT || 10/24/2009 14:34 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
6.0-magnitude quake strikes Indonesia
[Al Arabiya Latest] A strong 6.0-magnitude quake struck Indonesia's Papua province on the island of New Guinea Friday, the U.S. Geological Survey said, but there were no reports of damage.

The quake struck at 8:15 pm (1115 GMT), three kilometers (two miles) east of Manokwari at a depth of 35 kilometers, the Survey said.

A senior official with Indonesia's Geophysics and Meteorological Agency played down the seriousness of the quake.

Indonesia's measurements suggested "people felt the shaking but it doesn't mean there's any damage," said the agency's technical chief, Suharjono.

"There are no reports of damage or casualties. Those living in Manokwari felt several seconds of shaking and there was some panic, especially at the hospital," he said.

An AFP reporter in the city confirmed there were no signs of damage to buildings, although panicked residents had scrambled for high ground, fearing a tsunami, and electricity supplies were briefly cut.

Indonesia sits on the Pacific "Ring of Fire," where the meeting of continental plates causes frequent high volcanic and seismic activity.

Posted by: Fred || 10/24/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The USGS is saying it's a 7.0-size quake, about halfway between Indonesian New Guinea and the island of Timor. There's been another, smaller quake near the Sunda Strait. This whole area is still trying to adjust to the movements of the December 25, 2005 earthquake near Banda Aceh. At least things are settling down near American Samoa.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/24/2009 15:55 Comments || Top||



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