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Afghanistan
Turn the tables on the Taliban
Posted by: tipper || 12/19/2008 13:05 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good analysis.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 12/19/2008 14:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Until the Pakland border is given the same respect (i.e. none) as the taliban give it, then we shall continue to waste time.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 12/19/2008 20:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Wishful thinking.

Winning a guerilla war against a rural population in a mountainous country is very hard, without wholesale slaughter of the population (Russian tactic) or herding the population into camps (Many examples, started by the Brits in SA).

Theory is that you have to separate the population from the terrs. You either do that by removing the population, removing (generally killing) the terrs, or putting a physical barrier between the 2 (only possible in camps or urban areas).
Posted by: phil_b || 12/19/2008 21:28 Comments || Top||


Great White North
CHRC: it's OK to say gays should be "beheaded", Jews "spread corruption", Hindus must "be killed
Posted by: tipper || 12/19/2008 00:23 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What a joke. CHRC is obviously a tool of the hard left. The ironic thing is that the very people they pander to would be the first to string them up if they had their way.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/19/2008 11:07 Comments || Top||

#2  "Democracy is a system in total contradiction with Islam"

You betcha!
Posted by: SteveS || 12/19/2008 12:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Some Canadians possibly feel the CHRC is worth keeping just for its entertainment value.
Posted by: mhw || 12/19/2008 14:34 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
John Holdren to be Obama's Science Advisor
Posted by: tipper || 12/19/2008 08:37 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Could be worse. At least he's a moderate and not a zealot.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/19/2008 11:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Could be raining.
Posted by: .5MT || 12/19/2008 16:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Science???
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/19/2008 19:08 Comments || Top||

#4  #2 "Could be raining."

KA-BOOM!

:-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 12/19/2008 19:28 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Hamas's Response: As Ugly as Sin 17/12/2008
Tariq Alhomayed
Dr. Sami Abu Zuhri, the spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated Hamas movement was kind enough to respond to my article entitled 'Religious Arrogance'. However, I wish he hadn't done so as his response was as ugly as sin. Hamas considered what I wrote "distortion" and "part of a campaign that is being carried out by some people in the interest of a political group whose aim is well known; to conceal the political downfall of Abu Mazen [Mahmoud Abbas], and to attack forces of resistance and opposition in the interest of settling matters," according to the Hamas spokesperson.

Moreover, towards the end of his speech, Dr Abu Zuhri said that whoever attacks Hamas "needs to remember that the trench that is opposite Hamas is the trench of the occupation and enemies of the nation. Therefore he must reassess his position; he is either with Hamas and the resistance, or with the enemies of the nation."

The spokesman's response clearly demonstrates Hamas's way of thinking; it believes that everybody should support it and must not criticize it otherwise they are deemed supporters of the nation's enemies who choose to stand in the occupier's trench!

This is how Hamas sees matters, in a completely naive and superficial manner. The movement fails to understand that there are people who are enthusiastic about the Palestinian project as a whole, not about the organizations and individuals. One must say here that President Mahmoud Abbas cannot be compared to the leadership of the Hamas movement; Abbas is a political figure who deserves support.

Hamas does not want to acknowledge the extent of the damage that it dealt to the Palestinian cause or face the suffering it inflicted on the people of Gaza, for which Hamas is partly responsible. Yet Hamas still sees things according to the perspective that 'You are either with us or with Abu Mazen [Mahmoud Abbas].'

Dr Abu Zuhri spoke with clear pretentiousness, as he said that those who criticize Hamas are those who defend settling matters, forgetting that his movement is the one that is seeking and defending appeasement, which means losing all Palestinian rights and handing over the Palestinian cause to those who exploit it for even longer, thus prolonging the suffering of Gaza.

That is not all; Dr Abu Zuhra is accusing me of distortion because I said that Hamas has equated itself to Islam as it demanded that President Abbas repent for criticizing the movement. It is doing the same thing with regards to the author of this article, as Abu Zuhra is saying that whoever attacks Hamas is on the side of the occupier and the nation's enemies. This is the exactly the same approach that Hamas followed concerning Abbas; he criticized Hamas and the movement considered this criticism equivalent to transgression against religion and by writing about it, I have joined the occupier's camp!

I was neither mistaken nor exaggerating when I said that Hamas is afflicted by religious arrogance. How else can one interpret the comments made by Ismail Haniyeh, Prime Minister of the Hamas coup government in Gaza on the movement's 21st anniversary to the would-be Hajj pilgrims who were prevented from performing the Hajj pilgrimage by the movement?

Haniyeh said to them, "It wasn't in your destiny to witness the great day of the Hajj pilgrimage; God destined for you to witness the great day of Hamas on Palestinian land, and you will be rewarded." Is this rational talk?

Is a day for Hamas propaganda, during the peak of Palestinian division, equal to one of the five pillars of Islam, to the extent that this false day has come to be equivalent to the great day of the Hajj [namely the Day of Arafat]? Didn't we say that every statement that Hamas makes represents an error and that every error means that the Palestinian division will be a long one?!

Posted by: Fred || 12/19/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  That's the middle east for you.
If you can't explain it as a conspiracy theory, forget it.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/19/2008 11:48 Comments || Top||

#2  "It wasn't in your destiny to witness the great day of the Hajj pilgrimage; God destined for you to witness the great day of Hamas on Palestinian land, and you will be rewarded."

If I didn't know any better, I'd say Haniyeh has been sipping from the Marxist cup.
Posted by: Milton Fandango || 12/19/2008 14:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Therefore he must reassess his position; he is either with Hamas and the resistance, or with the enemies of the nation."

President Bush made a meme? Cool.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/19/2008 17:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Was this before or after Arab leaders allegedly secretly gave the Israelis the green light to take out Hamas leadership?
Posted by: logi_cal || 12/19/2008 18:42 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Why Ahmadinejad Fears Khatami
The Islamic Republic in Iran is facing "a sinister international conspiracy" designed to "replace religious rule with secularism." The plot was allegedly hatched by a "secret society of Freemasons" known as the Bilderberg Group whose members include many of the Western world's richest and most powerful businessmen and politicians.
Oh, man, not the Bilderberg Group.
You people are screwed. Don't even try to resist. They'll just enjoy it more.

The alleged conspiracy was finalized at a secret meeting of the group in June 1999 in Caesar Park Hotel in the Portuguese resort of Penha Longa. Inside Iran, the executors of the "plot" included the so-called Reform Movement symbolized by former President Mohammed Khatami who attended the meeting along with his then assistant on environmental affairs Mrs. Massoumeh Ebtekar.
Were you followed?
I'm...not sure.
Dammit! This is not a game, Mr. Khatami!

The so-called Bilderberg "lodge" is often described by conspiracy theorists as "the secret government of the world".

According to the report published by IRNA, the "plot" included building up Abdul-Karim Sorush, a self-styled philosopher and erstwhile Khatami protégé, as "the Martin Luther of Islam" with a message of separating religion from politics. They also tried to "transform Khatami into an Islamic [version of Mikhail] Gorbachev."

Wow! A tall story from the rumor-mills in the marshlands of the Internet?

Not at all. The claim comes in a lengthy report published by the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA), the official organ of the Khomeinist regime in Tehran.
Oh. Well. Glad it didn't come from the marshlands of the Internet...
The claim is worth noting for two reasons. The first is that it is presented by the official organ of the state. Claims that the former president had a part in foreign plots against the regime have been made by radical Khomeinist groups and websites since 2005 when Khatami's eight-year presidency ended. However, this is the first time that such a claim is given prominence by mainstream organs of the regime.
I got your organ. Right here...
The accusation was first published by the mass-circulation daily newspaper Kayhan whose Editor-in-Chief is appointed by the "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenei. The paper, which has promised "more sensational revelations", has often been used for character-assassination campaigns against critics of the regime, and makes no secret of its dislike for Khatami and his supposedly "reformist" supporters. Putting the claims on IRNA, however, marks a new step in the campaign against Khatami.

The second reason why the episode is worth noting is that it indicates a dramatic intensification of the power struggle in Tehran. The radical revolutionary groups led by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are beginning to fear a possible Khatami candidacy in next June's presidential elections.

However, before we deal with the political implications of the campaign let us first deal with its substance.

Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as the Bilderberg Group or Masonic lodge. What we have is an annual private meeting of influential individuals, mostly from Europe and the United States, designed to generate free discussions on a range of issues without a pre-set agenda and according to the so-called Chatam House rules under which there are no reports of the proceedings and none of the participants could be quoted by name.
"There is no such thing as the Bilderberg Group or Masonic lodge."
Yeah. You keep thinking that...

The first meeting was held at Hotel de Bilderberg near Arnhem in Holland in 1954 at the invitation of Prince Bernhard, the husband of the then Queen Juliana. The number of guests was fixed at 130 and initially only limited to politicians, academics and business people from member countries of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). Later, the meeting extended its reach and started inviting personalities from all over the world, according to which countries happened to be in the news. The invitations were designed to include two representatives from each country, one liberal and one conservative.
...and any interplanetary aliens that happen to be in town.
Over the past half a century, almost anybody who was somebody in international business or politics has made at least one appearance at the group's annual meetings. Thus, if this were a gathering of conspirators we would have to assume that virtually the whole of the global leadership elite consists of Masonic plotters. Last June, for example, Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both attended the Bilderberg meeting along with more than 60 other political figures from across the globe.
Where they received their orders from their Bilderberg puppetmasters...
From the late 1960s until 1977, a number of Iranian politicians, academics and business people attended one or more of the group's gatherings - always with the understanding that they were there as private individuals. However, no Iranians were invited after the Khomeinist seizure of power in 1979. That such invitations were resumed in 1999 indicated the hopes raised by Khatami that the Islamic Republic could close its revolutionary phase and return to the mainstream as a normal nation-state.

The IRNA campaign against Khatami shows that those hopes were premature. Even if one assumes that Khatami was sincere in his desire to normalize the Islamic Republic, the election of President Ahmadinejad showed that a majority of Khomeinists who provide the regime's support-base reject such change.

Nevertheless, the question has not gone away.

Many within the Khomeinist establishment realize that a majority of Iranians are tired of Khomeinism and desire normalization. The next presidential election, to be held in June, is likely to be fought on that issue. And Khatami is coming under pressure from inside and outside Iran to stand for election again, challenging Ahmadinejad's radicalism with a message of reform and moderation.

The IRNA report shows that the radical factions fear a Khatami candidacy and are trying to terrorize him into not becoming a candidate. As always, the Khomeinists shun serious arguments. They prefer accusing their critics of atheism, secularism or, as in this case, collaboration with foreign conspiracies.

The tactic may work against Khatami who has never been much of a fighter. But even if Khatami does not enter the presidential race, the main question will remain: how should Iran come out of the impasse created by a bankrupt ideology?
The Bilderberg Group will make Ahmadinejad their new shoeshine boy. Mark my words...
Posted by: Fred || 12/19/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  What about the Boy Sprouts, the Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow, and the Semiconscious Liberation Army?
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 12/19/2008 0:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Just so long as they don't find out about "Dennis Kucinich" and his superpowers
Posted by: Frank G || 12/19/2008 3:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Fear is the wrong word, Ahmadi Nejad feels only contempt for Khatami who was able to accomplish pretty close to nothing during his Presidency.

However, he may have a bit of fear toward some of the other politico-thiefs who have better relationships with the Mullah-in-chief.
Posted by: mhw || 12/19/2008 11:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Question:
Is Rantburg the 'Marshlands of the Internet'?
You may be getting inside their heads Fred.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/19/2008 11:38 Comments || Top||

#5  From what I've read, the Freemasons are descended from the Knights Templar, excommunicated from the Catholic Church, and have been guardians of the wealth since the Middle Ages. Owning their own great fleet of ships, they dominated world trade. They originally set up shop in Switzerland, noted for initiating the locked safety deposit box and private banking, to keep the Pope's paws off their wealth. They operate with no rules but control others by imposing their own criteria. The Bilderbergers Group today is the ultimate billionaire boys club and even if invited, only a select few get to listen in on the private after-meeting meeting. David Rockefeller is reportedly the Crown Prince of the Americas and Prince Bernhard rules the Europeans. If Khatami has their support, Dinner Jacket has much to fear. However, they are very calculating but they can't predict what a megalomaniac Islamic nutjob will do, especially with nukes and a band of suicidal Mahdi worshippers willing to institute a grand global Caliphate. If it wasn't such a terrifying scenario, with potential fall-out on the rest of us, I'd sit back with an extra-large popcorn and watch them have at each other.
Posted by: Thealing Borgia 122 || 12/19/2008 12:24 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
"Sweet Caroline" no match for Sarahcuda
Jonah Goldberg

For people who think there’s no cultural divide in this country, consider the treatment of two women much in the news in 2008.

The first is Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. A woman from very humble roots and with a very blue-collar life story, she worked with her steelworker and professional-fisherman husband to provide a life for their large family. She got involved in the PTA. She became mayor of her small town, then rose, by dint of her dedication and almost naive fearlessness, to the job of governor. In a mainstream, almost romantic sense, it’s almost like she was designed by God for a Hallmark movie of the week.

But, when John McCain picked her to be his running mate, the full fury of the liberal establishment — and sizable swaths of the conservative establishment, some of whom dubbed her a “cancer” on the GOP — came down on her with a vengeance usually reserved for Klansmen and pedophiles. . . .

Then there’s Caroline Bouvier Kennedy, daughter of John F. Kennedy, brother of John Jr., niece of Senators Ted and Robert Kennedy, granddaughter of Ambassador Joseph Kennedy, and the cousin of myriad other Kennedys and Shrivers who’ve burrowed deep into the timber of the house of liberalism. A multimillionaire from birth, Ms. Kennedy has spent most of her life on the charity-benefit and cotillion circuit. A product of the Brearley School in New York and the Concord Academy in Massachusetts before she attended Harvard and Columbia, Kennedy has made the importance of public education her signature cause. Sweet Caroline (she was the inspiration for the Neil Diamond song) recently made it known that she would like to be appointed to Hillary Clinton’s vacant Senate seat.

One could say without fear of overstating things that the liberal reaction to the inexperienced Caroline has been somewhat more gracious than the reaction to the “inexperienced” Palin. Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post has devoted two columns in as many weeks to this “fairy tale” scenario in which Kennedy, our “tragic national princess,” is finally rewarded — for her years of quiet dignity, selflessly avoiding scandal and the paparazzi — with the Senate seat that once belonged to her uncle Bobby. . . . The editors of the New York Times, in a more skeptical editorial, summarized her qualifications thusly: “Ms. Kennedy has much going for her. As a public figure, she carries the glamour and poignancy of her family ...” The editors then went on to describe what great liberals her dad and uncles were. That’s it.

This a perfect example of the bowel-stewing self-indulgence of elite liberalism.

Here’s a news flash: Not everyone truckles with doe-eyed awe at “America’s royal family.” Some of us don’t even like the idea of American royal families. JFK and RFK had their good points, but they don’t deserve the beatification they receive on a daily basis. As a man, Teddy Kennedy is hardly a role model, and as a public servant he’s not much better. I, for one, don’t think denying poor black kids private-school scholarships (aka vouchers) is heroic. Nor do I think his support for alternative energy, except when it might obstruct his Hyannis Port estate’s views with windmills, is admirable. Simply, the Kennedy clan is no priestly caste, serving as the conscience of the nation, and its progeny do not deserve eternal deference. . . .

. . . Palin’s selection triggered troughs of bile, vomited up from nearly every respectable liberal quarter. A Florida congressman, and Obama surrogate, insinuated that Palin was a “Nazi sympathizer” and anti-Semite (she’s not, but Caroline Kennedy’s grandfather was). Her by-the-bootstraps story was ridiculed by nearly every ex-debutante newsreader and avowed “feminist” in America. Meanwhile, Caroline, with a resume perfectly suited to being a Kennedy and little else, is a Cinderella who deserves a Senate seat because, well, she just does.

Whatever Palin’s faults, Sarah Barracuda’s America has a lot more going for it than Sweet Caroline’s.
Posted by: Mike || 12/19/2008 08:50 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Note to Donks, 1965 was at least two generations ago. History is not kind to those who seek to turn back the clock to 'golden' times. Retro is for music and interior decorating, not building a vibrant culture and society.
Posted by: P2k on holiday || 12/19/2008 9:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Caroline..... recently made it known that she would like to be appointed to Hillary Clinton's vacant Senate seat.

New slippers and a pony as well? No prooooblem.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/19/2008 10:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Another Note to Donks:
If the states not bordering the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans (and that's a lot of them) finally got their fill of you, you'd be toast. I'd like to see enough of a kerfuffle happen to drive that thought home.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/19/2008 11:29 Comments || Top||

#4 
Sarah Palin and Caroline Kennedy both suck.
Posted by: Penguin || 12/19/2008 12:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Looking forward to the SNL skit.
Posted by: DoDo || 12/19/2008 12:46 Comments || Top||

#6  "Ms. Kennedy has much going for her. As a public figure, she carries the glamour and poignancy of her family…"

Is this eulogy, “Poignancy of her family”, reference to the narrative of one family’s life long commitment to public service? Perhaps it’s the obligatory accolade bestowed upon the elite caste that sprung from Papa Joe’s loins? Nawww… It’s code for…she ain’t just rich folks…the lady is wealthy. And it’s the kind of liberal wealth that gave Harry Reid a boner when he recently proclaimed his endorsement. Not to be confused with the self-made wealth of someone like Mitt Romney that, as Harry told us, automatically qualifies him as “out of touch” with hard working Americans.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 12/19/2008 12:57 Comments || Top||

#7  "Sweet Caroline", eh?

I wonder if this one guy in the Phoenix area (can't remember his name, sorry), still has that song as part of his audience participation segment. It went something like this:

Performer, singing the chorus: "Sweet Caroline"
Audience: "KISS MY ASS!"

(Something I don't think Ms Kennedy would want to hear on her "listening tour", I think.)
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 12/19/2008 13:39 Comments || Top||

#8 
Full court press to annoint her to the seat, but ex-Gov Mario Cuomo's son wants it too and is highly regarded in NY.  He even knows where upstate NY is and what they do there.


We'll see .....
Posted by: lotp || 12/19/2008 14:22 Comments || Top||

#9  I was in high school when JFK was killed. In 4 hours he was transformed from a fairly unpopular President to a Saintly transformational being. That was when I first began to distrust the media.
Posted by: tipover || 12/19/2008 15:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Local Seattle fluff piece described Caroline's dad as "..the martyred President..."
don't think so.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 12/19/2008 16:03 Comments || Top||

#11  I think the name of Jello Biafra's lefty loony band describes the best type of Kennedy.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/19/2008 16:48 Comments || Top||

#12  "Sweet Caroline" > Whoa - now I've got the tune humming in my head.

All together men, wid feeling,"WINTERHAWK......"!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/19/2008 19:12 Comments || Top||

#13  Forgive, MADONNA, forgive - I HAVE KNOWINGLY SINNED IN YOUR EYES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/19/2008 19:15 Comments || Top||

#14  "Ms. Kennedy has much going for her. As a public figure, she carries the glamour and poignancy of her family..."

Poignancy is a kind of liqueur, I think. I guess they are talking about Papa Joe being a bootlegger.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/19/2008 20:58 Comments || Top||

#15  Ima thinkrn Poignancy is like Pregnancy, only with Poigs? Ship could correct me
Posted by: Frank G || 12/19/2008 21:03 Comments || Top||



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  Guantanamo closure plan ordered
Thu 2008-12-18
  Johnny Jihad's Mom and Dad ask Bush to let him go
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  Life for doctor in Glasgow airport terror bid
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  Bomb Found at Paris Department Store
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