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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Best quotes from General James "mad dog" Mattis, USMC
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/31/2013 13:10 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Something about a United States Marine, you just have to admire and respect, oftentimes to the point of awe, reverence, and even tears.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/31/2013 15:47 Comments || Top||

#2  They missed one, but perhaps it's not considered one of his best:

Gen. Mattis: We Pay A Price For Supporting Israel
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/31/2013 16:20 Comments || Top||

#3  GEN. MATTIS also said that Air/MilStrikes alone won't be enough to stop Iran's NucProgs, i.e. stop Iran from becom a de facto NucWeaps Islamist State. Mattis strongly inferred that a ground invasion + occupation of Iran may be needed as a "final option".

* IIRC DEMOCRATIC UNDERGOUND > [Global Post]LINDSEY GRAHAM SAYS HE WILL INTRODUCE AN AUTHORIZATION CALLING FOR [US/US-led] USE OF MILITARY FORCE [War] ON IRAN BY SUMMER'S END, i.e. Sept-Oct 2013 iff no progress on Nuc Summit.

* FYI 1ST HEADLINES > [Bloomberg] IRAN MAY ACHIEVE NUCLEAR [NucBomb = NucWeapons] BREAKOUT CAPABILITY IN MID-2014.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/31/2013 20:06 Comments || Top||

#4  I disagree. If you remove their entire infrastructure, the nuke project will die on the vine. When there's no bridges, power plants, water plants, sewer plants, food production, roads, buildings that aren't rubble and anything trying to enter the country gets pegged before making more than a mile across the border, it's certainly possible.

And on the plus side, Iran will never be a problem again.
Posted by: Silentbrick - Schlumberger Squishy Mud Division || 07/31/2013 23:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Gen. Mattis: We Pay A Price For Supporting Israel

Mattis got dinged in the media for this, but I read the quote as saying the moderate Arabs don't have the balls to step up and do what's right.

We do pay a price for supporting Israel. It is a necessary cost sometimes. To quote a certain Democrat Prez: Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
Posted by: SteveS || 07/31/2013 23:37 Comments || Top||


Top Ten No Sympathy Lines (from college students)
h/t Jerry Pournelle
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 07/31/2013 04:28 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Army fights poor morale with more flair, medals, unit awards.
You can always tell the Americans. They are the one's with all the medals.
-- unknown NATO soldier.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/31/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  To be fair, Besoeker, American soldiers have generally been in a lot more medal-worthy combat than the typical NATO soldier
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/31/2013 0:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Ah, the Duffle Blog. Gotta give 'em credit. It is hard to do satire in a world where you wake up every day asking "WTF is the matter with you people?".
Posted by: SteveS || 07/31/2013 0:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Sadly, you are right Glen, but that is a entirely separate discussion. Unfortunately, we've been going overboard for years with awards and decorations.....unless of course, you were a shooting victim of MAJ Nadal Hasan at Fort Hood. Then there is possibly one of the worst examples of all.

Posted by: Besoeker || 07/31/2013 4:14 Comments || Top||

#4  To paraphrase a statement accredited to Napoleon - with these ribbons I rule the world.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/31/2013 7:18 Comments || Top||

#5  They are also a walking billboard of the individual service record. Those who know the code can tell the tale. That's because too many of them became just a tour completion and time in service ribbon rather than an impact, particular event, award.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/31/2013 7:22 Comments || Top||

#6  In short.... everyone gets a trophy and they are all the same!

Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/31/2013 10:27 Comments || Top||

#7  Example: The lettuce on PFC Mannings uniform.

Off Topic. Why is he a PFC rather than E!?
Posted by: tipover || 07/31/2013 10:59 Comments || Top||

#8  Now that he has been found guilty of official charges, the sentencing phase should strip him of all rank, awards, decorations, etc. Reduction to E-nothing. Emphasis on should.

However, failure to follow orders [get a shave and a haircut] didn't produce the desired results on MAJ Nadal Hasan's personal appearance. So who knows what will happen.

Posted by: Besoeker || 07/31/2013 11:05 Comments || Top||

#9  Tip over, manning was busted back to E3 prior to his getting busted for spying, allegedly for being a shirt bird (aka insubordination, failure to repair, and conduct ... )
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/31/2013 14:06 Comments || Top||

#10  Also the army did this when morale was crap during the civil war I think. History ...
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/31/2013 14:08 Comments || Top||

#11  I got a Medal for "Enlisting in a time of Crisis", we called it "The Geedunk Medal" (Geedunk was the mess line) Worth nothing.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 07/31/2013 14:11 Comments || Top||

#12  Weren't they also handing out metals left and right during the Vietnam war? How about we ask ole 'silver star' Jawn 'I was in Vietnam you know!' Kerry.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/31/2013 14:23 Comments || Top||

#13  In short.... everyone gets a trophy and they are all the same!

Au contraire CF. The tour and time awards are de facto divided by enlisted, company grade and field grade(+) for officers. Sore spot for me because one of my enlisted was fully deserving of an impact award for his work, but some ahole in the upper chain shot it down because 'we don't do that'. Then WTF have them on the books?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/31/2013 15:20 Comments || Top||

#14  So called Enlisted Awards boards and lower enlisted promotion boards have, in many cases, become the domain of Battalion and Union Stewards Brigade Sergeants Majors. It is what it is.

Save the Regimental structure, there is little to admire about British military systems. Their awards scheme however, makes infinitely more sense and holds vastly greater meaning than our own.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/31/2013 15:39 Comments || Top||

#15  Thanks for the clarification Proc. In a way that sounds much worse....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/31/2013 15:40 Comments || Top||

#16  I agree that there are a lot of awards being given out. But there is a lot of meritorious work being done.

All I can offer is that -- in my humble opinion -- any award received by an enlisted solder is likely genuinely deserved, and most received by field grade officers (Major and above) are bogus.
Posted by: rammer || 07/31/2013 20:21 Comments || Top||

#17  (Geedunk was the mess line)

'Geedunk' was the junk food you bought in the ship's store.

What the National Defense Medal was/is called.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/31/2013 22:15 Comments || Top||

#18  We had a HAC crash one of our H-60's 1/4 mile from the USS Boat ( wearing NVGs), he and the H2P got out, the 2 AWs didn't and are still in the deep. Pilot error was the finding of the Safety Board. Seems LT HAC's daddy was a flag officer and Junior demanded to know why he didn't get a Navy Commendation Medal at the end of his tour. CO said not a word, but pointed to the pictures of the dead AWs he had in his office. (CO was very shaken by this accident, never saw a CO so visibly moved)
LT still didn't understand...... ( H2P was so shook up he turned in his wings)
Posted by: USN,Ret. || 07/31/2013 23:32 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Tunisia On The Brink
by Michael J. Totten
A taste:
Tunisia is mellow, even pacifist, compared with Algeria. The army is smaller than Egypt's, and it is not--or at least it has not been--a political player. So I don't expect a full-blown Algerian-style insurgency or an Egyptian-style military coup. Nor is a Tiananmen Square-style massacre in the cards. Tunisia is not a police state, and Ennahda admits it's afraid of the army.

But tensions are rising, the situation is volatile, the country is more dangerous now than even a week ago, and the region is always surprising. Keep an eye out because even the "moderate" Islamists empowered by the Arab Spring are back on their heels. They thought they owned the future, but they do not.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/31/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Salafists

#1  The Algerians are coming, the Algerians are coming ...

Oh wait - my bad.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/31/2013 0:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Tunisia is mellow, even pacifist, compared with Algeria.

For now, MJ, for now.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 07/31/2013 2:04 Comments || Top||


Economy
How Taxpayers Will Bail Out Detroit
On Sunday, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew ostensibly ruled out a federal government bailout of Detroit following its recent declaration of bankruptcy.

“You know George, Detroit’s economic problems have been a long time in developing…I think when it comes to the questions between Detroit and its creditors, that’s what Detroit is going to have to work out with the creditors,” he told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos. Not quite. Detroit is proposing an effort to offload much of its bloated healthcare costs onto the American taxpayer, using ObamaCare as the vehicle for doing so.
Public employees are the new nobility---private sector are serfs who exist solely to provide for their betters.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 07/31/2013 03:26 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I agree wid FOX NEWS' "THE FIVE"s Greg Gutfield, i.e. give Detroit to the [illegal? = Hispanic] immigrants whom the DemoLeft + aligned RINOS, Globalists, Special Interests, etal. in Washington DC are treating like quasi-US or de facto US Citizens anyway.

[GREAT "OKLAHOMA LAND RUSH" here].

Despite its woes, the Hispanic + Asian communities in mostly African-Amer Detroit are the only segments that are experiencing growth, while the Black community is stuck in quagmire + getting worse.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/31/2013 20:14 Comments || Top||

#2  We should set up a program to allow the immigration of a million Taiwanese to homestead in Detroit. The only restriction would be that at least a million must sign up before anyone was let in, and they had to live in Detroit for five years to be eligible to become citizens.

They will take the deal just to get away from the risks of nearby mainland China. Once the million arrive, Detroit will be squared away in no time.
Posted by: rammer || 07/31/2013 20:32 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
5 Ways Liberalism Destroyed Detroit
"A few years ago, the nonpartisan Bay Area Center for Voting Research rated Detroit as the most liberal city in America." -- Michael Tanner

Detroit was once one of the world's great cities. It was the 4th largest metropolis in America, jobs were plentiful because of the auto industry, and Motown even kept it on the cutting edge musically.

Unfortunately, from 1962 until the present day, the mayor of Detroit has been a Democrat.

The result?

Detroit's population has dropped from 1.8 million to just over 700,000, the unemployment rate is over 50% if you count the people who've given up on finding jobs, property values have dropped so much you can buy homes in the crime-ridden city for $500, and Detroit has gone bankrupt.
How to "Flip" a house in Detroit:
1. Buy it
2. Insure it
3. Burn it

How did Democrats kill one of the most prosperous cities in America? With the same sort of unfettered liberalism that Democrats like Barack Obama, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi want to foist on the rest of the nation.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 07/31/2013 10:06 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Only five?
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 07/31/2013 11:33 Comments || Top||

#2  from 1962 until the present day, the mayor of Detroit has been a Democrat

It didn't really go downhill until after 1974; with the Young regime, Detroit could've been on Lake Tanganyika instead of Lake St.Clair.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/31/2013 11:50 Comments || Top||

#3  How to "Flip" a house in Detroit Atlanta:

1. Buy it
2. Insure it
2.5. Take out a second loan, buy an Escalade.
3. Burn it (or simply walk away from the loans)
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/31/2013 11:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Article doesn't even mention pensions and other goodies for government employees -- isn't that like 1/6 of Detroit's total debt? Staggering when you think about it.
Posted by: Iblis || 07/31/2013 12:01 Comments || Top||

#5  $1.00 house still available.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/31/2013 12:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Yeah, I really want stripped houses with years of taxes due, FU++ Y++.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 07/31/2013 14:08 Comments || Top||

#7  But just think - you would own the land!

I'm betting the property value for taxes haven't been re-accessed for a decade or so either.....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/31/2013 14:22 Comments || Top||

#8  I remember reading the Detroit papers in 1984 and they had a special section with government owned houses for sales, thousands of them and the average price was $20.00...Then I flew over the area for a look...seemed lovely at first, heavily treed...but a closer look showed a third of the houses burned out with another third with part of the roof collapsed. So that crap has been a long time coming....nobody can insure anything not only in Detroit but in all these neighborhoods peopled by that nation of blood sucking parasites!
Posted by: Bob Snore6814 || 07/31/2013 19:14 Comments || Top||

#9  I believe they call these houses 'contractor's specials'...
Posted by: Raj || 07/31/2013 19:26 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Now We Know the Truth Behind U.S. 'Peace Process' Policy
by Barry Rubin

At last, we have an explanation for what has been going on with Israel-Palestinian talks. It is credible, yet ridiculous. And it is very important.

Here is today's New York Times:

In recent weeks, Mr. Kerry and his aides have outlined several basic arguments for why his efforts might bear fruit. Perhaps the most important one, which Mr. Kerry advanced almost the moment he was picked for the State Department post, is that the United States does not have the luxury of staying on the sidelines.

With the Palestinians poised to take their claim for statehood to the International Criminal Court and United Nations bodies, American officials say the two sides were facing a downward spiral in which the Israelis would respond by cutting off financing to the Palestinian territories and European nations might curtail their investment in Israel, further isolating the Israelis.

Now, what is this saying?

...I presume that talks would fail, and after this explanation of what Kerry is doing, I feel even more strongly that this will happen. That's why the Israeli government has accepted this bad deal, believing, I think accurately, that the PA will make the talks fail. I understand why this option was taken -- also, because there might be American or European threats and promises; nobody can be as bad as Obama in the future -- but this tactic is getting tired.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/31/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The strategy behind the Peace Process, TW is that whenever a new banned Russian term appointed US Sec State, the banned Russian term tries his/hers luck---a kind of DC Rodeo.

We release a few terrorists, Arabs celebrate by committing some new terror acts. Eventually there is some real crisis, and the jerk goes away.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 07/31/2013 2:02 Comments || Top||

#2  The jerk WILL go away. John Kerry is essentially a staring non entity with no real pretensions of being anything actively relevant. He fills a chair for his Boss who actually IS a chair.

When John Kerry disappears and the first crisis that rattles the windows will dispose of him because he actually is useless...no one will miss his existence. He never was there in the first place.

His Boss is a Mouth and John is a Suit.
Posted by: Threater Flusoper9823 || 07/31/2013 6:45 Comments || Top||



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Wed 2013-07-31
  Pakistan Elects Mamnoon Hussain President
Tue 2013-07-30
  Manning Acquitted of Aiding the Enemy
Mon 2013-07-29
  US drone kills 6 suspected militants in Yemen
Sun 2013-07-28
  Report: Hizbullah Wired Money To Bulgaria Bomb Suspects
Sat 2013-07-27
  Muslim Brotherhood claims its supporters massacred in Cairo
Fri 2013-07-26
  Officials: Cafe Bombings, Attacks Kill 42 In Iraq
Thu 2013-07-25
  Hezbollah commander killed in Syria
Wed 2013-07-24
  Reports: Top Syrian Army Commander Killed In Battles With Rebels
Tue 2013-07-23
  Report: Egyptian Army Arrests 18 Terrorist Planning Embassy Attacks
Mon 2013-07-22
  Qaida Suspected as Iranian Diplomat Seized in Yemen
Sun 2013-07-21
  At Least 32 Killed In Baghdad Car Bombings
Fri 2013-07-19
  Suspect in Justice Baqar case dies
Thu 2013-07-18
  Kurds expel cannibals jihadists from flashpoint Syrian town
Wed 2013-07-17
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